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Why do you guys take everything as hate? (self.PKA)

KraisenMr. Sark for PKA! が 投稿

When Kyle was talking about that COD4 video that was posted a few days ago, he took it as hate. That was obviously a joke about how Wings used to do that all the time and that someone found a video of Kyle doing it, too.

If you actually took that as serious hate, Kyle, then you're way too sensitive to be on this subreddit and I'm surprised because you've been doing this for so long.

And Woody, you said yourself that "everything seems kind of like a knock". That's your problem. You take everything as offensive when most of the time it's a friendly joke. It's no different than "Fuck Kyle". It sounds mean, but you have to realize it's from a place of friendliness, not aggression.

I really don't think it was just to ban /u/Underscore_Blues. From what you all said on the podcast, that was a ban from your feelings when you should be banning by the rules.

EDIT: And you guys seriously replaced Lefty with an OWL?

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[–]MurkadurPKA 159ポイント160ポイント  (22子コメント)

Oh, so Woody and Kyle get their own section in this post but I don't even get a mention?

I find that offensive and I take it as hate. Haters.

[–]TheIllusiveNickLefty867-5309 30ポイント31ポイント  (14子コメント)

Fuck the Blues!

[–]MurkadurPKA 59ポイント60ポイント  (13子コメント)

That's not very nice.

[–]juponeterswag 24ポイント25ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/pQ2VhDn.webm

[–]MurkadurPKA 23ポイント24ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, that's fucking hilarious.

[–]TheIllusiveNickLefty867-5309 10ポイント11ポイント  (9子コメント)

The hate pot is being passed around, so I took the initiative to toss the contents in your face. Now every host is receiving hate!

[–]MurkadurPKA 34ポイント35ポイント  (8子コメント)

Hate me for looking like an owl but let's leave the Blues out of this, the wounds are still too tender.

[–]TheIllusiveNickLefty867-5309 2ポイント3ポイント  (6子コメント)

At least you didn't lose your captain for the series against the Blackhawks and blow two three point leads. You know what, fuck the Wild AND the Blackhawks.

[–]MurkadurPKA 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

Imagine you hear about a movie that purports to fulfill everything you've ever wanted in a movie and more.

It's perfect.

You watch each and every trailer multiple times and are more excited by the conclusion than you are at the beginning every time.

You wait in line at the theater when it finally releases and you sit down anticipating the finest cinematic experience of your life.

After all the hype and cinematics of the trailers for future films, you finally see the intro begin.

After a long, epic, emotionally powerful intro, a man walks through the foreground of the shot and simply shits into an old shoe.

Roll credits.

That's what it's like being a Blues fan.

Be happy you got through the first round.

[–]FlyingDutchDudeHodor is a bitch 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

That sounds like something that would happen in Southpark.

[–]The_Tarasenkshow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just wish our director wasn't Hitchcock.

[–]TheIllusiveNickLefty867-5309 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

The Preds were eliminated in the first round. You have to think though that the Blues will eventually win a Stanley. Maybe in one year, or maybe in ten. High hopes for the Blues and the Preds.

[–]MurkadurPKA 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ah, I figured you were a wild fan hence the comment. I'd like to see Weber and the Perds get their chance at the cup.

edit: I should have figured this out by your initial comment that's my bad

[–]TheIllusiveNickLefty867-5309 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I didn't expect a cup run this year after the way they ended season, but it was depressing to watch them blow TWO three point leads.

I expect the central division to be the toughest to play in for the next few years with a few cup's coming also coming to the division, but St. Louis is by far the most deserving of a Stanley.

[–]Youngknightlax 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You know nothing about sore wounds when the Ducks played such an amazing playoffs only to get embarrassed at home in game 7.

[–]ltsReno"They're gettin collaterals on tanks and shit." PKA 131 1:57:50 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go Kings!

[–]AnkleLockinMoFos 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fuck you Taylor, how dare you get a hand job right in front of me?! What a condescending move.

[–]murderouspulseI like that. I like that a lot. 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

You're the best Taylor! ! I could never hate on you <3

[–]jamesonbar -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

LGB!!!!

[–]jayjay9222 43ポイント44ポイント  (6子コメント)

kyle brags about bullying old coworkers but cries like a bitch about a cod4 video n hand writing banter. The guy is a primadonna. That's what happens when you surround yourself with arse lickers.

[–]KraisenMr. Sark for PKA![S] 18ポイント19ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, I agree.

Here's a comment I made a few days ago on someone's post.

Honestly, I'm lead to think that the overwhelmingly positive attention Kyle gets online has shaped him into a pompous douche who thinks hes better than everyone else. Kind of like the kids in high school who are obnoxious tools because they've been told that they are special snowflakes for their entire lives. Online he's a god, but in the real world, he's kind of just a douche.

I feel like I was a little harsh with the wording, but the idea holds true, in my opinion.

[–]Xiy 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Completely right. I've been thinking this about Kyle for the past few episodes.

[–]ten_inch_pianist -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I agree with what you said in this post, but this comment is a little too far. This is what would come across as actually hate. You can't can't call somebody a "pompous douche" and pass it off as playful.

[–]KraisenMr. Sark for PKA![S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

It wasn't meant to be playful.

[–]PussyDestroyer69sCarl Drogo -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

And we wonder why he left this sub...

[–]donkeyx 53ポイント54ポイント  (3子コメント)

Kyle has always been the most sensitive. He ran away from the subreddit and deleted his account after a post that said his handwriting was feminine. Top tier wuss.

[–]AspiringInspiration 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

It was the feminine handwriting in tandem with everyone saying that it was kitty that wrote the post cards, complaining about patreon rewards, and saying that he doesn't care enough about the fans to write his own post cards. Everyone was berating him and I'm fine with him leaving the subreddit which takes cycles of being very toxic towards the hosts.

[–]donkeyx 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

There were some comments that said that it might have been kitty but that was cleared up the next day with a post from kyle writing an elegant "Fuck You". Most were just surprised by his nice handwriting.

At the end of the day he ran from a sub, that for the most part worshipped him, because people said his handwriting was too nice. Fair enough that he left because he was hurt but its silly that on the show he pretends that comments don't effect him or that he is above it because clearly he is not.

EDIT: Now that I thought about it some more I think he said on the episode of PKA that followed him leaving that the sub had hurt his feelings. I think its more so that he can joke about or prank someone else but cant handle a joke himself rather than him pretending he doesn't care. Everyone has flaws but not everyone has thousands of people talking about them and the show isn't always and accurate representation of who you are as a person. On a positive note Kyle if you read this I am a fan. Your hilarious, have a kick ass life and bring entertainment and joy to a lot of people. Big fan of all the hosts and will be watching your vids as long as you keep making them.

[–]AnkleLockinMoFos 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, there is a reason the survival trip ended...

[–]giricrak 48ポイント49ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm not bothered with all the drama, but I was surprised that Kyle took the cod4 video as some sort of hate post. It's hilarious!

Edit: Can it be he was upset at some of the comments in that thread? Not sure what was said there.

[–]cudder17 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

which is funny, i remember when he used to post on this sub, that exact video was posted and he commented on it laughing about it. He wasn't upset at all about it back then, now he is. I don't get it.

[–]KraisenMr. Sark for PKA![S] 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I thought it was so obvious that it was a joke that I didn't even consider for a second that it could be a legitimate hate thread against Kyle.

[–]DoomBread 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If I was to take a guess then I'd say he took it like that because he felt some shame about his actions. If he's done stuff he regrets the last thing he's going to want is it brought back up.

[–]Senor_Taco29Patreon is a waste of money 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

The hosts just seem to have a thin online skin. Anything they disagree with seems to be hate to them, even if the opposing viewpoint is valid.

Kyle overall is the worst, you can't forget him leaving Reddit because people didn't like his handwriting. He also is seemingly the most liked host, and doesn't get nearly as much hate as the others

[–]aCaterpie 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't 100% agree with you here (I'd say 95%), but I definitely do with the first part about the hosts having thin online skin, especially Woody. Considering he's said on multiple occasions, even in recent episodes, that he has thick skin and a high tolerance for hate and such online (which he prides himself on) yet he feels like everything in the subreddit is a knock?? It just doesn't add up to me that someone as thick skinned and impenetrable and "immune" to hate being afraid of visiting the subreddit.

[–]JaysonBourneWell maybe a Submafuckinrine but not other glass... 28ポイント29ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's a classic case of someone being able to dish it out but not being able to take it... How can someone who used to pour ink in peoples headsets get mad at a little funny rage moment that happened 9 years ago... He would not last in my friend group if that's all it takes.

I like Kyle but I feel like he's a bit too sensitive. .

[–]KraisenMr. Sark for PKA![S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I agree. I just really don't think it's a good idea for them to keep coming to the subreddit (especially Kyle) if they get so offended by everything.

[–]iRef_oczoroMr.Sark for PKA! 8ポイント9ポイント  (4子コメント)

What COD 4 video are you guys talking about? The Kyle had a wings moment one?

[–]MDSMVPMy Flair is Top 10% 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

If you are to be offended or take something as hate on the internet, why are you on it? Especially on this subreddit, I take most things to be a joke or for sarcasm.

[–]AidanCYT 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well how often is the hate directed at you?

[–]MDSMVPMy Flair is Top 10% 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Never really, but if I did get any sort of hate on the internet I wouldn't give a shit

[–]voidspy -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well imo this is supposed to be a fan base. A circle jerk basically. I think it was a simple misunderstanding between the video that was posted. But Kyle had a legitimate claim when a guy posted that Kyle deleted a kid who was bothering him 5 yrs ago. The guy who posted that crap outta be banned for trying to start drama. That kid was the cunt.

[–]MDSMVPMy Flair is Top 10% 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If Kyle thinks people will judge him on some "drama" on the internet from years ago, then that is a problem.

[–]FizzOrFeed 25ポイント26ポイント  (0子コメント)

Its just what they do man. Anything non-incredibly constructive and concise in its criticisms is hate. Woody is the worst with it and always has been. If I had a dollar for everytime he said "I get hated on so much for ____" I might actually be able to afford video on PKN.

[–]unlimiteddogs 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

Fuck Kyle!

[–]KraisenMr. Sark for PKA![S] 28ポイント29ポイント  (3子コメント)

Banned.

[–]CyfaMr. Sark for PKA! 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Underscore was a decent community member if I recall correctly. There aren't a lot of haters here anymore, to the mods credit for cleaning them up, and I don't think Underscore was ever one of them.

[–]voidspy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you look through his comment history he was dedicated and a fan in a way. But you'll see the majority of reasoning to be true. The fact that he said hosts were basically stealing from pka patron subscribers should've set off a bad vibe through his mind. He risked it and he got shutdown. Although I feel like if they told him to stop being such a contrarian he'd agree and stop being the cunt he could be at times. But we all have those moments I'd say. Truly up to the hosts though.

[–]MuchBlahVeryBlah 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let's not forget in the same video that Kyle threw a hissy fit at for being uploaded he called what appeared to be a child 'A Mexican piece of shit'. If you're reading this Kyle, YOU are the piece of shit.

[–]Snxk 5ポイント6ポイント  (6子コメント)

To play devil's advocate, though, you have to admit that this subreddit is negative towards the hosts in a decent amount of posts, however, whether they're popular or not is a different story.

As it's always been said, the hateful minority is usually louder than the majority of subscribers who just enjoy the content, so I can see how Kyle could interpret that post as a hateful one.

[–]KraisenMr. Sark for PKA![S] 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

There are definitely legitimately hateful posts, but my problem is that they seem to ignore those and single out the ones that aren't actually hate-intended like the COD4 post.

Honestly, the worst part of it to me is that Woody said "everything feels like a knock." Just saying that should make him realize that he's interpreting a lot of friendly jokes as hate, because surely he must realize that everything isn't actually a knock against him.

[–]Snxk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I completely get your point, but I can feel where the hosts are coming from too, it's hard to convey emotions through text on a forum, so it would be hard to differentiate between actual hate and friendly banter.

[–]KillerSpriteBears are human -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

While the Kyle cod4 post may not have been intentionally inflammatory, the comments were a bit rough, with the first thumbed up comment calling Kyle a douchebag. A few other comments took digs at Kyle, so I can see how the hosts could misconstrued the post as hate.

[–]KraisenMr. Sark for PKA![S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

The top comment was a joke about how Kyle pronounced "wheel".

[–]KillerSpriteBears are human 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This mobile app listed it at the top for some reason, however a few comments in there were hating on Kyle.

[–]Bruh_Man_Fiff_FloorI won't even ride in a vehicle without subwoofers. 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

TotalBiscuit talked about this on his podcast. It's an issue of death by a thousand cuts (complaints).

If you get 1 person telling you about a problem/critiquing something, you think about what they've said and act on it. You either decide yes, they were right and fix/change it.

Or decide no, they are wrong and continue on as you were doing beforehand. It's hard responding well to hundreds of people on a subreddit, in what most likely comes across as people bitching.

[–]Heyhaykayah ah ah to mm mm mm 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Read some of the comments in the Cod4 post.

There was lots of genuine hate

[–]ThickSix"All hole, no pole" 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

This attitude towards hate is essentially why he stopped making videos which as a fan of his is really sad to me.

[–]DeadpooI 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Wait who are you talking about?

[–]ThickSix"All hole, no pole" 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh I guess I should have clarified that more, I mean Woody.

[–]DeadpooI 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well aside from that he doesnt really need the money and doesnt seem to be as passionate for it.

[–]ThickSix"All hole, no pole" 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think he lost the passion more quickly because of hate and I'm pretty sure he himself has said this

[–]voidspy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. He failed to realize that it's just the 1% I'm patient though and it seems to be working he uploaded more irl videos in 2 months then he has in a year. Which seems positive.

[–]flawless_mouse 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think they nailed it. A significant portion of this subreddit passive aggressively attacks the hosts under the guise of "fooling around" and "having fun".

But many of the comments in this thread aren't passive aggressive. They're just aggressive.

No wonder Kyle didn't take kindly to statements like:

Kyle's a fucking douchebag.

he can tell a funny story and is a good host but other than that he seems like a pretty shitty person.

him and woody are both pricks in their little millionaire club

Classless asshole.

[–]MuchBlahVeryBlah 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes, Kyle. The same Kyle who laughed his ass off at the Wings' rage against Syndicate and threw a hissy fit when a video from 5 YEARS ago surfaced. And let's not forget, in the same video, he called what appeared to be a child, a 'Mexican piece of Shit'.

[–]flawless_mouse 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who cares if you dislike him for inconsequential bullshit? Point is, he has good reason to dislike that thread, contrary to what the OP thinks.

[–]voidspy -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

True to some extent. Not all of us are dicks...

[–]voidspy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I saw that Kyle video too, was obviously a joke to poke fun at him. He was right about the Xbox friends list crap though some guy was extremely passionate about exposing Kyle over a friends list spot lol

[–]sammychammyI threw salt in Whiteboy's game -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You have now been banned from /r/PKA.

[–]Rocket_Admin_Patrick -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

Alright, I'm not the people in question, but I think I can explain it:

As someone who spends most of their time on /r/pcmasterrace, I've learned a bit on detecting sarcasm and satire. If you didn't know about what happens there and visited for the first time, you'd think that these people on Reddit worship this fat guy who runs Steam. We actually don't, it's all satire, but people who aren't always there don't know that.

This imo applies to Woody and Kyle. To you guys, you know it's a joke, that it isn't bashing them, you're just poking fun at something for comedic value. To them, you're bashing their financial decisions with PKA, you're nitpicking old videos, Kyle's handwriting, etc. You can't assume that they will know that something is satire unless you specify that.

Yes, putting satire or sarcasm in parenthesis requires a few extra keystrokes, but it'll stop Woody and Kyle from thinking that you are bashing them for no reason.

On your last sentence, you didn't read the rules did you? Woody is a mod and can moderate posts and comments at his discretion, not saying it's right or wrong, but it is in the rules. If he thinks that someone is toxic, can you really blame him for wanting the guy gone? I wouldn't, but that's just me.

[–]Stone-Drink a Fuckin Drink you Cunt -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

there is a difference, Woodys not your friend. So why would he take anything as a friendly joke?

[–]CommonIon -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Imagine if someone dug up a time from your past when you weren't at your best. You were younger. You've grown since then. I bet every person here thinks back on embarrassing experiences and tells themselves that they are a different person now. Then, that person posts it to a site viewed by thousands for all to see and judge. It's embarrassing and you would be pissed at whoever posted it. Years of being on camera won't really change that.

[–]DoomBread 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody else seems to understand this. I'll sit there and remember something I did 10 years ago and I'll cringe. Now imagine thousands of people seeing you make that mistake, I can't imagine anybody will be happy in that situation.

[–]mcafc -5ポイント-4ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's how it's written, not the message, that causes problems.