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Bitcoin electrical socket (self.Bitcoin)

ddepra が 投稿

Hi guys,

Not so long ago, I came here asking some advices on how to build a prepaid electrical socket with an Arduino:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2xcn19/ideas_needed_bitcoin_electrical_plug/

And today, here I come: a prototype / proof of concept has been built !

The electrical socket - BitPlug - is testable LIVE on http://www.bitfluid.net via a Youtube LIVE event [just send some dust on the address and watch it move !]

This is being done in the context of an innovation contest of a big energetic group (Gd* uez ~ Enie). We want to bring awareness on Bitcoin because we think there are a lot of disruption possible in the energy sector thanks to the Magic Internet Money.

This will be reviewed by a bunch of top managers during next week. There are 40 teams and the 10 best will be selected for a final presentation.

Imagine: you're somewhere in the world and you can activate an electrical socket in my home (Belgium) in real time (sorry for the 30 sec. delay of Youtube). Isn't it magic ? :)

The charges connected to the socket in the demo are:

  • a toy (~ 10 W)
  • a lamp (~ 5 W)
  • a heater (~ 2000 W)

Material for the project:

  • Arduino Uno
  • Arduino Wifi shield
  • Arduino LCD
  • 1 Wattmeter
  • 1 electrical relay

Any feedback ?

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[–]luke-jrLuke Dashjr - Bitcoin Expert 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nice, now this is some good innovation :)

Does it get network access over the powerline, or would one need to run their own network connection? Is the firmware to be open source? I'd love to have smart outlets in my home that I could turn on/off over powerline ethernet... ;)

[–]ddepra[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

  • network over wifi (Arduino wifi shield). But it could be via PLC or Ethernet. Arduino have such modules available. But if I had to produce an industrial version of this, I would not do it with an Arduino of course.

  • Firmware opensource ? I've got no problem with that. I just have to wait the end of this competition and check with my mates.

[–]Generation_Y_Not 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

BitPlug

You gotta be kidding me...

[–]ddepra[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

?

[–]AgrajagPrime 9ポイント10ポイント  (4子コメント)

IT SOUNDS LIKE BUTT PLUG.

[–]ddepra[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Indeed... :D

As non-English natives (french here), this detail didn't pop up to us immediately :)

At the beginning, we wanted to call it "Sock Bit" (which sound quite dirty in french) but one of us refused it because of that, and proposed ... BitPlug :D

Fair enough ;-)

[–]Phucknhell 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

BitSocket sounds better

[–]d4d5c4e5 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

In r/Buttcoin it actually is a buttplug.

[–]zeusa1mighty 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sounds very much like a sexual toy.

[–]klondike_barz 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

BITFLUIDS.net

i hurt somewhere inside

[–]bitcoina 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

This restores my faith in the power of bitcoin. Well done!

[–]ddepra[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thank you ! We had to do it quick in the last weeks during our free time (we had no budget to do it except for the given Arduino).

We have also done a little video of 5 min' explaining the whole stuff for the jury but I don't know yet if we can make it public or not.

[–]-intron- 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nice:) Made a low-cost version of this with NFC and WiFi, just playing around:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1038600.msg11201817#msg11201817

[–]crimi666 2ポイント3ポイント  (5子コメント)

xD best 5 euronos i ever spend

[–]ddepra[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Thanks for the tip !!

I and my mates will drink a beer talking about you soon ;-)

[–]crimi666 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

The heater is killing my coins really fast, do you life in antarctica? xD

[–]ddepra[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

No, but for the sake of the demo, I had to put it there.

Otherwise, the progress bar is not going fast enough.

You want me to unplugged it ?

[–]crimi666 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

No, warm air for everyone as long as it lasts :)

[–]HagBolder 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

What makes this any better than the already widely available smart sockets?

[–]ddepra[S] 7ポイント8ポイント  (8子コメント)

Well, it's autonomous. The socket just has to be connected on the internet and "voilà". As soon as you pay on the address, the electrical socket delivers power.

Have you already seen a autonomous prepaid electrical socket on the market ?

[–]ddepra[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Also, it's not a socket to be sold "as-is", it is more of a proof of concept.

Give it a try, it's fun. Send 1mBTC (or even lower) to 1G8qeBadXsm6fNVQ1gGycLxhMGsWhpQCVY and watch it move ! ;-)

It's LIVE

[–]tomtomtom7 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shouldn't it be using payment channels (like streamium) to ensure you pay what you need?

[–]ddepra[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, indeed. That was our original idea and it's still on our plan. But given the budget (0) and the time we had (private time), it was not possible for us to go so far. I wish I could show you the video where we explain the next steps. But in a nutshell:

  • micropayment channels
  • machine 2 machine payment over electrical wire

[–]HagBolder 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Sony announced the tech using NFC a few years ago but they haven't bothered rolling it out. I imagine there isn't that big of a market for it.

[–]ddepra[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Or.. the cost of the back-end infrastructure for supporting it was a hell of a cost.

With this -> no back-end (the bitcoin network is the back-end).

[–]scootaloo711 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have a homematic system which consists of a box that is connected to my actual lan (no wlan) which serves a web ui directly at my internet ip or over a vpn. As i only need dyndns, wouldn't that qualify as "no backend" too?

All sensors and actors are dumb and only communicate via rf with the base station, if security is needed with a signed message too, so a electrical socket would be quite cheap 40€.

[–]ddepra[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The fact is that a bitcoin electrical socket could be sold on a large scale without the need for the producer to deploy a back-end for them in order to check the payment.

Here the Bitcoin network is the back-end. And so, a device using the Bitcoin network profits of all the advantage of it (international, worldwide availability, up 24/24, etc...)

[–]smartfbrankings 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you end up with miners that people will plug into free sockets, it very well could be necessary.

[–]SundoshiNakatoto 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Lol, this is awesome

[–]ddepra[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thank you !

[–]SundoshiNakatoto 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Imagine lighting some small town in a third world country like this O__O We all chip in

[–]ddepra[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's a business case.

Direct remittance, the guy working on another continent lights up his parent's house.

[–]Braggel 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nice one! Cute toy btw...

[–]ddepra[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Have you tried it ? :)

[–]Defusion55 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I could see this maybe being cool in areas where people would pay a small fee in bitcoin to use a light socket but I fail to see the luster in it. But great job.

[–]ddepra[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well, it could go a little bit further: - Electrical vehicles - Electrical producer (your neighbor's PV panels) being paid by other consumers. - etc...

[–]seriouslytaken 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Airport wall jacks

[–]Defusion55 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was the first place I thought about, however every airport I have ever been too has offered free jacks.

[–]seriouslytaken 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they could charge, they would.

[–]zebrahat 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Love it! Great proof of concept and great idea.

[–]Coiniko_com 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hey - added to our live stream guide at http://coiniko.com! When is this live stream ending?

[–]ddepra[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks !

At least until end of next week (~Sunday 7th June).

It's the only prototype we have. If we win the first phase, we would have to take it for presenting it in the final (second phase).

[–]NeilDeSnowden 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Awesome, that was fun. I see a lot of potential.

[–]P43R0 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Very cool!

As you say this is just a POC. What's the potential "killer" use cases for something like this as you see it? Possbilities are many, but I'm wondering what you have in mind?

[–]BitcoinWallet 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

No live streaming for us. Can you record a video and put it up? Thanks.

[–]ddepra[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Damn it ! Where are you ? US ?

Does someone know what I can do to allow this video to be seen everywhere without restrictions ?

On your side, you can always try TOR and you'll finally go through a TOR exit node on a location where the live streaming is allowed.

[–]BitcoinWallet 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Germany. The GEMA is notorious for blocking all sorts of content on YouTube.

[–]ddepra[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

TOR, then ! :)

[–]NeilDeSnowden 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Go buy a VPN subscription with bitcoin.

[–]mudkip908 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

bitcoin

real time

How can this be?

[–]ddepra[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Broadcasting of a transaction is extremely fast.

[–]mudkip908 -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, but doesn't it take a while for it to get confirmed? Or is that not a problem here

[–]ddepra[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here there is no choice, we have to go for 0 conf transaction.

Tiny amount, little stake at risk in case of a double spent.

Anyway, it's just a POC ;-)

[–]Kitten-Smuggler 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

damn, thats what im talking about!

[–]461broadway 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

nice job