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MeleeHungrybox's College Graduation Speech vs. Mango's High School Graduation Story - juxtaposition (youtube.com)

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[–]TheToastyKnightMrKimimaru 220ポイント221ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hbox: Shout outs to you guys 'cause you're the reason I do this

Mango: Yeah so uh shout outs to fat titty bitch. Shout outs to fat titty bitch, aaaaand Jose.

[–]MOM?mattysacs 101ポイント102ポイント  (0子コメント)

FACT: Mango's teacher gave him the D and thats how he graduated high school.

[–]TacticalToaster 32ポイント33ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the best. I love the parallel they share.

[–]Frozen_Scrotum 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

People are making this into an Hbox vs. Mango competition when this isn't a competition at all. These two have different views on life. One isn't better than the other, they're just different. They both have led fulfilling lives that they wouldn't trade for anything. Mango did Mango, Hbox did Hbox, both are happy, therefore both are successful, since most people base their success in life on overall happiness. Mango doesn't have the career opportunities later in life, but if he worked this hard at smash, he can work just as hard on something else that could translate to a job, especially if it means providing for his son, which he (hopefully) cares about just as much as smash if not more. Hbox clearly has the more traditional career opportunities, and that's great for him. What people don't realize is that these two people have worked harder at smash than almost any of us have worked at anything else, and that puts them in a great position for knowing what it takes later in life to put in the work necessary to succeed.

[–]mendelsin 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mango did Mango and Hbox did Hbox but can we have Mango do Hbox

[–]buttsoupjets 263ポイント264ポイント  (82子コメント)

Mango treated high school like a lot of people do - do enough to get by.

This video leaves out the part of Mango's story where he says WHY he cheated and plagiarized, the part of the story where he didn't go back to school because he thought Dunk was going to kill himself and as a result all his grades were failing.

Mango's system wasn't "wise" if school is all that matters, but at the time Mango was the best Melee player in the world and he was traveling across the country playing in tournaments and winning money. He even explained that his school was ghetto and he's also talked before about how Smash probably kept them out of gangs.

He's got a girlfriend, a kid, tons of friends, a great sponsor, the most successful twitch stream of any individual Smash player, he gets to travel the world, and he's doing something that he loves.

[–]45flight2 60ポイント61ポイント  (4子コメント)

this isn't even necessary. both hbox and mango made their own decisions in life, and (as far as i can tell) they're completely satisfied with how things turned out! i dunno why anyone would have any comments on that lol

[–]eastmangoboy 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think most people just find it interesting that these two top Smash players have such contrasting lives. It's all in good fun.

No reason to pass judgement though, I agree with that. They've both found success in their own way. Good for them.

[–]buttsoupjets 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why would context to Mango's high school story matter? It's entirely necessary.

[–]45flight2 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

i mean it's helpful but even if there was none it shouldn't matter

[–]danielvutran -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

It "shouldn't", but as you can see, there are a lot of judging people here. :|

[–]Borrillz 68ポイント69ポイント  (2子コメント)

I don't get why people would hate on the kid when he's found his calling doing what he loves. He's widely respected as a master and innovator in his field, something everyone strives to be at one point.

Just because that field happens to be smash doesn't mean we should put him down or try to make him feel inadequate (although I doubt anyone really could). If you're well versed in the game you know how long and hard and smart you gotta work to be the best.

[–]TheGoldenSSTicket 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

I have often thought about things like this. I kind of think that people don't really understand. Lack of understanding really just leads to assumptions and quick judgement. People are quick to judge others on what they do because they don't get why people are successful for what they do or they are simply jealous. If people realized how much actual practice and work it takes to be the best at something they would understand it is justifiable.

[–]danielvutran 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You guys sound fucking awesome, I love finding people with this type of mindset. But yeah most people are just clueless or unaware of how to be objective in life. And so thus they judge and judge and judge, ignorant to just how fucking stupid they really are even until their death lol. Aka most of the population.

[–]Cactusblah 14ポイント15ポイント  (2子コメント)

For every Mango there's 99 other people who did what he did in high school but didn't end up as successful.

[–]gooberdude 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Considering part of the reason Mango did so poorly in HS is constantly playing melee, travelling for melee, and studying melee, you can't compare it to someone who just didn't try in high school but didn't try at anything else either.

Compare him to someone who did bad in school but had an extreme passion for something else that they actively developed with all their free time. I'd wager those people have a higher chance of doing well for themselves then the average high school D student.

[–]timepants 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those are very conservative numbers.

[–]Chaular 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait, what's all this about Dunk being suicidal and mango helping out? Somewhere I can read on this story?

[–]euphzji 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah if you find the full "High school story" link, Mang0 mentions that his grades for his final semester were pretty fine. He was hanging with Dunk and Dunk just broke up with a super long-term girlfriend and was super depressed. Mang0 was about to go home after hanging out a bit and he says he looked and Dunk and thought "Damn if I leave he might actually like... kill himself", so he stayed and hung out with Dunk all week.

[–]horse_drowner2 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I guess the only difference here is long term vs short term, that's what I take away from this video.

Not to hate on Mango or anything, but everything that you listed is pretty short term. In the grand scheme of things, what will mango do outside of smash when it's over? Whereas this video shows Hungrybox at least has an answer to that question that parallels the difference between just working some minimum wage job. Career vs job.

[–]the_HeyThere_member -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why do you people judge so much. Who gives a fuck about what either of them are going to do. It is their life and their future. You honestly think Mango gives a fuck?

[–]Rainymood_XI -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

He's got a girlfriend, a kid, tons of friends, a great sponsor, the most successful twitch stream of any individual Smash player, he gets to travel the world, and he's doing something that he loves.

a kid

U w0t mang0 is a father?

[–]Tyler__Swift 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

"That bitch had some fat ass titties"-C9 Mang0

[–]pepperoniboomerang 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

mang0s story is actually hilarious, minus the dunk stuff that is.

[–]Lan_Hikari 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is the best thing I've seen on this sub on a while. Kudos to you, OP

[–]nativeoftamriel 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

"I talked about my sick jigglypuff in one of them." And then probably shit talked Hbox's jiggly in the next. /s

[–]ChillinNetwork 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is actually sooo jokes

[–]WHY ARE U READING FLAIRSbunnymeninc 22ポイント23ポイント  (0子コメント)

have some gold you funny motherfucker

this is funniest post I have ever seen

[–]DThrow>Anything>WinOmar310 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

Holy shit, Mang0's story had me in stitches. Anyone got a link to the full thing?

[–]aaronfaren 3ポイント4ポイント  (12子コメント)

Mang0's life seems to prove something and that is that being a mediocre high school student doesn't mean you are doomed for life but you better have a plan for what you are going to do if you aren't going to pursue an education.

[–]ChedduhBob 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

I think the bigger message should just be that you should work hard like Hungrybox to put yourself in a situation to have options. Mango got extremely lucky that he happened to have a phenomenal ability to play smash so well. It's an insanely low percentage career path with less than 5 people legitimately making enough money for it to be a career

[–]aaronfaren -1ポイント0ポイント  (7子コメント)

I agree with this, but the Mang0 circlejerk in this thread makes it seem like having Smash to fall back on didn't involve any luck whatsoever.

[–]l5555l 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

He even says in the video he didn't do well in high school because of smash. That has nothing to do with luck. He was good at smash so he did smash.

[–]aaronfaren 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

His skill is not the luck factor. The luck factor was that Smash became something to profit off.

[–]l5555l 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm saying that smash wasn't something to fall back on, it was his main thing. That's why he didn't really care about school.

And you could argue that he was a big help in making competitive smash into what it is today.

[–]aaronfaren 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

You seem to miss my point that is that until very recently, there was no way in hell you could make a decent living off Melee. Mang0 is somewhat lucky that enough people gave a shit for there to be money in the game. Ken at one point mentioned in the Smash Doc that the money won from tournaments paid for his trip to the next tournament and nothing else. But with sponsors and Twitch donations/subs Mang0 can make enough to live comfortably. I'm not discounting his skill or work ethic towards Melee. But you have to admit that if there was no money in this game, he would have had to find something else to do.

[–]the_HeyThere_member [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Just goes to show you there is path out there for anyone that is not the traditional way of doing things in our social society and I think it is great.

[–]danielvutran -4ポイント-3ポイント  (1子コメント)

I hate people like you, those that attribute "luck" to being amazing at something. If that's the case, then Hbox is also "lucky" to be able to do what he did as well. Being born with a brain decent enough to get those grades he did, and in that specific scenario.

Honestly, people like you who keep spouting "LUCK!! LUCK!!" just seem to me like people who can't ever acknowledge hard work or actual merit. Maybe it's some type of passive-aggressive jealousy, or maybe it's just people being unfairly dumb/judgmental.

Who knows

[–]aaronfaren 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dear God, did you even look at the comment right below this one? I never said he was lucky to be good at Smash.

[–]Tizzlefix -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

I beg to differ, you could say he had talent but talent really means jack all in terms of actually becoming the best. The key thing that stuck out to me there was, "I would stay up all night playing Melee everyday", that is what made him the best.

You never really hear how pros in anything make it to the top because to them what they did was perfectly normal therefore they never really talk about it. I can tell you as someone who plays LoL around Diamond 1 currently, everyone who is up there played thousands upon thousands of games to get there.

Mango never had a "phenomenal ability" to play Smash, he played the shit out of Smash just like every other top pro player and had people to play it with to perfect the mind reading game. Maybe he had talent early on but that's where talent only matters, when you first start out.

People who think it's luck truly have no idea how it's really just a shit ton of hard work whether the player views it as "work" or not.

[–]horse_drowner2 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

"I would stay up all night playing Melee everyday", that is what made him the best.

I agree with your sentiment of hard work translates into success, but there are also countless people who stay up all night and play Melee everyday yet don't become the best.

Being the best at something isn't just "put in X amount of time". Otherwise everyone with free time could be the best. Innate talent, the same way as genetics in sports, is just a natural part of competition.

[–]Tizzlefix [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'd argue that children from pro sports stars that are good athletes have a father or mother to guide them through thus making it much easier. I'd also have to say that I was never innately good at LoL, I just practiced and played it a lot. There's a difference between playing a game a lot but also wanting to be the best or strive to get better which I'm most certainly sure Mango wanted to be the best at his game, also the way he talks about Melee is different to many people that just play it.

I can tell you that you can be easily top 10 in any state bar places like SoCal with just an entire year of straight playing the game to be the best possible. I mean I've taken a few sets off of fox players (I understand the match up as Puff pretty well... After being smashed by it for awhile) that have been PR'ed in my state and only started in November last year. And that's with the constant solo queue grind playing LoL every day (Smash is my backup game if LoL somehow dies off which I don't see considering the amount of money pumped into it) trying to go for pro.

The thing is do you really want it, Mango did and he made sure of it. You can say Mango is talented all you want but does he ever really emphasize that part of him first starting out? No. Why? Because Mango is all about the moments of being the best, he doesn't care to talk much about the amount of days he put in or if he does he skims over it because to him that was just a normal day in the life of Mango.

I good player to look into in regards of knowing his past is m2k, there are numerous players and people that all recall him just getting smashed in tournaments but m2k worked hard, he studied hard and was the best player in the world at one point. M2K also had a passion for smash that 99% of us don't and that's why he got to where he was.

[–]Crump_Dump [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm jealous of both hbox and mango; the both seem extremely happy and satisfied with their life choices. Why are people always trying to make life into a competition?

[–]InformalMango 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I know a lot of people like Hbox and when they see him talk in the documentary they think he's the best person ever. If you really listen to what he says, and pay attention, he was basically saying that mango had no future compared to him. He says it a few times too, and some people seemed to have caught it too from what I read on the comments. I don't like seeing threads like these because I don't like comparing people to others. It always ends up as "mango is a pos bum that doesnt take care of his kid and gf and didnt even do well in hs, hes a bad influence dont listen to what he says" and then everyone loves Hbox and talks about how amazing he is, but theres stories of hbox also being a dick and everyone ignores them.

[–]danielvutran -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, all extremely true. But again, remember that 99% of this fucking sub have never even been to a tournament before. Let alone actually talked to Mango or Hbox IRL. It's fucking sad lol. But this is le reddit, where everyone thinks they know everything. The actual IRL community is well aware of both of these players and what they do. And also of all the times they've been salty / ragequit ;D (which is what I'm assuming you were talking about)

[–]ChurchNEOH -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yea, no one knows about things he's said to and about Mango and his gf.

[–]dannyusf 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shout out to fat titty bitch hahaha. Honestly though this is why I love hungrybox!

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    [–]Frozen_Scrotum 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

    "Choose your own path, but not the one that I dislike"

    [–]ShiekSometimesialways 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I remember in the other thread someone said that when mangeezy was asked what he was going to do after smash his response was something along the lines of "I'll be the coolest motherfucker working at 7/11" with lucky. And as long as hes happy I think that's dope.

    [–]danielvutran 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah honestly I love that he can be happy as balls working at Lucky's 7/11. I wish I could do that!!! He just seems so chill lol, but then again he's already had a legacy so I definitely get why he can be content with that for the latter of his life. Props to hbox too though for doing his own thing.

    [–]buttsoupjets 13ポイント14ポイント  (0子コメント)

    choose your own path

    Mango DID choose his own path and he's earned his lifestyle. In fact, the only thing that he didn't have a choice over WAS SCHOOL, as it was required for him to complete it even though he didn't care for it.

    Nobody in here is encouraging people to be like Mango, we are telling people that this video gives a shitty portrayal of Mango and omits specific parts of Mango's story. He would have passed high school easily if he wasn't tending to a suicidal friend. He did what we should all hope anyone would do in that situation, even if it risked his grades. It was very possible that he wouldn't have had enough credits to graduate, and yet he did it anyway.

    Mango doesn't owe it to anyone but his child and sponsor to be a good role model. Seriously, it's like people don't have minds of their own.

    [–]Whiztard 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't see anyone encouraging others to do jack shit at school.

    Do you?

    [–]Tip TipLiketySplitTV 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

    I doubt mango got lucky. I'm pretty sure he will have busted his ass to get as good at smash as he is now.

    [–]tha yung corgibillpika [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    both are happy today. that's what matters.

    [–]RHYTHM_GMZ -5ポイント-4ポイント  (30子コメント)

    Lets just say Mango is a very lucky person...

    [–]45flight2 10ポイント11ポイント  (29子コメント)

    i don't think luck has anything to do with his melee skill

    [–]eastmangoboy 13ポイント14ポイント  (17子コメント)

    I think he is talking about melee blowing up.

    [–]BlitznBurst 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    At what point in his life actually was this? Was he already best in the world at this point, or was he basically just a kid attending tourneys? If he was already a top player by that point then I guess he'd be kind of justified, though he's still incredibly lucky that Smash blew up enough to be a career option for him in the first place.

    [–]buttsoupjets 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He was the best player in the world before he graduated high school

    [–]45flight2 -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    it's not luck that he's talented. he definitely knew he was really good

    [–]ViolentlyCaucasian -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

    I could be the most talented, most skillful player of barbie paint and play pony in the world but that doesn't mean anyone has to pay me for it. He's a very good player of a game over a decade old that still in defiance of almost all other games has remained popular competitively and a viable source of income through competition winnings/streaming.

    What if melee had died after brawl came out, what if streaming and donations had never been a thing? It's certainly fair to say he's very lucky

    [–]PiggyWidit 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

    He's repeatedly said if he couldn't do what he would do he would go out and get a job and be a normal person.

    Mang0 is indeed lucky that his favorite past-time and his greatest talent has allowed him to make a career out of it, but in the end there are always other things in life.

    [–]buttsoupjets 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

    This is bullshit logic people pull out all the time.

    What if Lebron James wasn't born an 6'8'' tall athletic freak?

    [–]ViolentlyCaucasian 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yes, he was very lucky to be born with those attributes. He was also lucky that basketball is quite a lucrative thing to be good at

    [–]MrJackpot 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    According to /r/smashbros minimum wage obviously because he doesn't do anything but basketball

    [–]danielvutran -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Mango fucking #1 LOL

    [–]Meester_Tweester -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    You got reddit gold for posting someone else's video, who compiled two other people's videos, who were playing another company's game, using other games' characters? Wow.

    [–]His Intentions Were PureWowseers[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is my video as in I made it, I have no idea what you're talking about