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The Alfredo Cream Conspiracy (self.Cooking)
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[–]exfratman 301ポイント302ポイント303ポイント 10時間 前 (25子コメント)
...and the question remains un-answered; what is the recipe for fettuccine Alfredo without using cream?
[–]dragonslayer0069 44ポイント45ポイント46ポイント 9時間 前 (24子コメント)
Yeah.. I'm interested. What are they using if no cream? I run a small Italian kitchen and I have modified my Alfredo to use ½&½ so it remains stable and fluid even when cold. And firms up upon reheating. But its still a cream based sauce.
[–]gubbinsmcgee 117ポイント118ポイント119ポイント 8時間 前 (23子コメント)
It's supposed to be butter and parmesan, and a splash of the starchy water from cooking the pasta to help emulsify the fats and stabilise the mixture, seasoned with salt and sometimes pepper and nutmeg. Not really something that reheats well though I imagine.
You can't really make an "Alfredo sauce" in the same way you can't really make a "Carbonara sauce"; the sauce is made on the pasta.
[–]EatingSteak 41ポイント42ポイント43ポイント 7時間 前* (0子コメント)
Thank you - OP posted an interesting story, but it really needed a "what is it then?" tl;dr
[–]dragonslayer0069 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 7時間 前 (18子コメント)
I agree. But like I said, I run a kitchen. We need a simple sauce that can be heated quickly and served with a pasta as it gets sauteed.
[–]The_Bard 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 6時間 前 (5子コメント)
Would a splash of pasta water with butter and cheese be just as easy as a prepped cream sauce?
[–]BobC813 10ポイント11ポイント12ポイント 5時間 前 (0子コメント)
Well, the obvious answer is no. That would be 3 ingredients to add vs 1 with a sauce that's made ahead.
[–]dragonslayer0069 3ポイント4ポイント5ポイント 5時間 前 (3子コメント)
We also use it as a pizza sauce... So it kinda needs to be ready to roll... Its very good.
[+]Gekko463 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-24ポイント-23ポイント-22ポイント 2時間 前 (2子コメント)
Whatever makes your life easy man. It's not like we are paying $25 bucks for a bowl of flour and random grease or anything. Make it as easy on yourself as possible. Take my money. Fuck me.
[–]garaging 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
This guy is mad at sauce.
[–]sabin357 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 57分 前 (0子コメント)
As a man with a belly bigger than I want, I too, am mad at sauce. Why you gotta be so tasty?
[–]ITRAINEDYOURMONKEY 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 5時間 前 (1子コメント)
I imagine that could be the reason for so many recipes moving over to cream
[–]dragonslayer0069 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
Possibly.
[+]Gekko463 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-22ポイント-21ポイント-20ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
So , you are quite happy to serve shite from your "kitchen", as a convenience to yourself, if I understand correctly.
[+]kendradog[S] スコアが基準値未満のコメント-81ポイント-80ポイント-79ポイント 4時間 前 (8子コメント)
Sounds like you want to dissemble to your customers, telling them they are getting something they aren't for the sake of your own convenience. Congratulations: you're a successful kitchen - where I live, the purist, candid restaurants have mostly gone out of business or are subject to brutal yelp reviews whining about how the food is too expensive, takes too long, and isn't gluten free or whatever. But that doesn't change the meaning of the words.
[–]jstenoien 64ポイント65ポイント66ポイント 4時間 前 (6子コメント)
Don't be such a pedantic ass, you'd probably get customers angry at you if you served them "real" Alfredo because gasp the meaning of words can change.
[–]Logg 5ポイント6ポイント7ポイント 3時間 前 (5子コメント)
I kind of understand where he's coming from though. It's mildly infuriating to me that "literal" is defined in Merriam-Webster as "see figurative".
It's nice to think that when you say a word, it means the same thing to everyone, so that the thought communicated is the same on both sides. In the case of OP, he is forced to clarify that some pasta is made "Like Alfredo himself would have made it", and not the creamy Alfredo sauce we all love today. It seems wrong to op to attribute this sauce to Alfredo, since it's not the way he would have made it, and is possibly a lower quality.
[–]dragonslayer0069 9ポイント10ポイント11ポイント 3時間 前 (1子コメント)
Look.... The very fact that we're even having this discussion is proof of how wrong it is... I've been a cook for 30 years and gave had my chefs certificate for 15 of those... And I've never heard of Alfredo being made without cream. So gimme a break. PS. My Yelp reviews are awesome. And I only have 10 items on my menu year round. So needless to say the little that I do make I make very well!
[–]Logg 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
I believe you! I wasn't trying to make a culinary post, it seems OP is more disturbed by the change in the definition of what an Alfredo sauce is, which as a "literally" advocate, I understand.
I personally wouldn't try making an Alfredo sauce without cream.
[–]Bilgerman -1ポイント0ポイント1ポイント 2時間 前 (2子コメント)
Give up the "literally" fight. Please. People have used it figuratively for centuries. Hearing people complain about this has become far more annoying than people using the word in a poor context. It's literally making my asshole hurt.
[–]Logg 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
Yeah, of course you can't count on taking the word "literally" literally anymore, and no one can put that genie back in the bottle.
It bothers me because it's a word that in some contexts requires clarification in order to ensure that both parties in a conversation understand what was meant.
[–]thesavagemonk 0ポイント1ポイント2ポイント 14分 前 (0子コメント)
The other guy is 100% correct though. It's been used to create hyperbole for centuries. Charles Dickens used it that way. There's no point in getting upset about it. It hasn't changed recently.
[–]dragonslayer0069 4ポイント5ポイント6ポイント 3時間 前 (0子コメント)
I can imagine you're the douche who must write those shitty Yelp reviews...
[–]chickenfun1 1ポイント2ポイント3ポイント 6時間 前 (0子コメント)
Also just a bit of nutmeg, and black pepper.
[–]chicklette -3ポイント-2ポイント-1ポイント 2時間 前 (1子コメント)
That is the recipe for pepe e caccio (-sp) minus the pepper.
[–]gubbinsmcgee 2ポイント3ポイント4ポイント 2時間 前 (0子コメント)
Cacio e Pepe traditionally doesn't use butter, it's just cheese, pepper and pasta.
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