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UPDATE on SUNSfan home invasion - burglar sentenced to 30 years in prison. (self.DotA2)

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CONTEXT! - Some of you might remember this from last year.

Hey everyone, just wanted to update you on the whole home invasion stuff from last year. As we've learned, things like this take a long time to conclude, but the main guy involved was prosecuted and convicted of all charges a few weeks ago. He has been sentenced to 30 years in prison. This guy was particularly vicious and I hope his anus gets ravaged in jail. The second guy's trial hasn't begun yet, but we're hoping he'll face similar judgement. Thanks for all the support

https://www.facebook.com/SUNSfanTV?fref=nf

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[–]Brim_Dunkleton 43ポイント44ポイント  (1子コメント)

Enjoy 30 years lo-pri, scrub.

[–]༼ つ◕_◕ ༽つgiff creppy maiden flair plsSWAG_M4STER 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

R E K T

[–]ಠ╭╮ರೃWhat-A-Baller 51ポイント52ポイント  (5子コメント)

That's like an Aghz upgraded Justice's Scythe

[–]Jaikose 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

How on earth did he get 30 years? That's like a homicide sentence isn't it?

Also you are funny as hell Sunsfan, hope you stay on fails of the week forever.

[–]cetujemene [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

probably a consecutive sentence for all the charges (there were like 6+)

[–]asacoffee [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He owns that shit.

[–]BellisColdwine [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

30 years is serious overkill unless the guy's being prosecuted on previous charges as well. Welcome to the American justice system!

[–]crimethinking 45ポイント46ポイント  (0子コメント)

Enjoy your VACation.

[–]CartesianGeologican 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

whoa, this all happened right before I got interested in the scene. That's crazy scary and wow, so great that people watching the stream were able to get in contact with the local PD

[–]awesometimmy99 21ポイント22ポイント  (2子コメント)

OY VEY

[–]Dassn 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

its like another shoah

[–]Buff TB pls icefrogLotsaTerror 83ポイント84ポイント  (222子コメント)

"anus ravaged in jail"

thats one way of putting it

[–]i'm only pretending to be retardedblastcage 330ポイント331ポイント  (218子コメント)

I honestly don't think wishing rape on someone is fine

[–]solartech0 143ポイント144ポイント  (87子コメント)

I agree with you good sir, people in prison should be treated like human beings.

And human beings should not be raped.

That is all.

[–]WordsSP 63ポイント64ポイント  (29子コメント)

But they're males, they can't be raped. /s

[–]Press the attack!the_legion_commander 9ポイント10ポイント  (8子コメント)

well said. sunsfan has a real habit of saying absolute bollocks. He has made fun of Chinese people in the past for example.

[–]Be one with the leavesRocket_hamster 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

Like you haven't made fun of anyone ever.

[–]鳳凰GrilledBird [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

Ad hominem. /u/the_legion_commander 's character has no bearing on his point about Sunsfan.

[–]It is my spirit that keeps me safe, and not mere armoursoviet_goose [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I think the point /u/Rocket_hamster was trying to make is that most people have at one point or another made fun of someone else in their lives.

[–]ResonanceSD [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh for fucks sake, even your avatar is Phoenix.

Objection! You think you've contributed to the argument by pointing out a logical fallacy and then running away! But you haven't.

[–]Someday my Underlord will come!SlaveNumber23 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He has the most unprofessional and horrible personality out of anyone in the entire Dota 2 scene, which says a lot considering the attitudes and behaviour of some of the players.

[–]pvmcfi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

tips fedora

[–]༼ つ◕_◕ ༽つgiff creppy maiden flair plsSWAG_M4STER 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hello sir! im your fellow prison mate sir , pls giff 2 Soap bars

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    [–]http://www.dotabuff.com/players/44607913BuffKunkka 44ポイント45ポイント  (0子コメント)

    ITT: vindictive dicks getting pissy with you for having empathy

    [–]dirtykaolinpicker 23ポイント24ポイント  (9子コメント)

    You're right, but also remember that it wasn't your house that was robbed. If someone threatened your life and your girlfriend's life, you might react in a similar way. Not saying it's okay to wish prison rape on someone, even jokingly, but be careful about judging SUNSfan when you haven't been through that personally.

    It's easy for us to sit in our reddit armchairs and say things like "an eye for an eye is wrong" without experiencing a seriously traumatizing event.

    [–]AnActualDog [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    He's entitled to think whatever he wants to, I just think it's in poor taste to go on a public forum and say that you hope someone gets raped.

    [–]MrDTrack5 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Where do I buy this reddit armchair?

    [–]dirtykaolinpicker 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The armchair is within you.

    [–]rdb_gaming 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    OMG he ate an armchair, well his anus is gonna get ravaged soon then.....

    [–]Mostly comments Techies Face (No space)xaxaxaxa4u [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    ಠ_ಠ

    [–]enough to do my powercarrotmage [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Yo, fellow guy here who was robbed at home by two males with axes, told I was gonna die because I was hiding valuables (nope I was just really poor) had family hiding in another room trying to call the police etc. and I wouldn't wish anything bad to happen to them - the main assailant served his time and I hear he's changed his life in some really positive ways. At the same time different people cope with this type of thing in different ways, I was definitely angry at a few points in regards to what happened but it's best to accept that bad things happen and move on.

    (sips coffee from armchair)

    [–]proteasedota [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Jeez, that's fucking terrifying. I had a burglar kick in the front door and knock on my bedroom door where I was napping; he ran when I called out... and even after that I was very unsettled to hear noises around the house for a long while after. I can't imagine going through what you or Sunsfan had to...

    [–]zunnyhh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    30 years though? Kinda ridiculous

    [–]Vulpix0r [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Yeah, it's probably in the heat of the moment he said that, can't blame him. Might not show, but he probably is affected by this whole home invasion thing.

    [–]DONT STEP ON THE MINES * * *Lunglung01 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Don't worry its sheever's ravage

    [–]i'm only pretending to be retardedblastcage -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    top meme

    [–]SA_Dizz 20ポイント21ポイント  (43子コメント)

    This man is right. Just because something bad happened to you doesn't mean you should condone rape on anybody.

    [–]NERFEDGuacOp 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Rather, we should hope that the punishment the courts of justice have handed down to him help him rehabilitate himself into becoming a productive and positive part of society!

    Edit: No /s, people. The prison and justice system in America has been well-documented to do nothing to alleviate crime or positively impact society. Instead, it helps get prison contractors rich and subjects minorities to blatant discrimination and leads the whole prison population to statistically just commit crimes again once they get out :/

    [–]i'm only pretending to be retardedblastcage 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I'm not sure if you're making a joke here or not but that's honestly what I believe

    The state has basically fucked up in the first place by allowing someone to get into a position where they're doing this, and then punishing the individual for their failures is disgusting

    [–]NERFEDGuacOp 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm not. I put the exclamation cuz I'm a little drunk and a positive person. I'll put an edit so people make sure it's not sarcasm.

    I appreciate you putting your voice out there, especially seeing from the comments. I honestly would've played along with SunsFan's comment about rape and not even noticed anything wrong with it if not for your comment, and that in itself is saying something about the power of joking about something. We become desensitized to it and forget our morals and beliefs. My comment about rehabilitation is my serious and staunch opinion about the justice system, especially because the prison system is so fucked up in America and does nothing to alleviate crime.

    [–]LittleDinamit [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    This is a positive attitude to have about this sort of thing, but it's clear that the victim in a situation like this will have a very, very hard time sharing that positivity, and I can sympathize with that cynicism.

    The guy entered their house and threatened their lives. SUNSFan said he was "particularly vicious" which implies he probably did not seem very repentant during the trial. It seems to me that it is quite possible that this is just a shit human being, something that you don't seem to account for in the whole "the state put him in that position" argument.

    [–]Hi thereitonlygetsworse [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Honestly I think people need to learn not to tweet/facebook about anus being raped regardless of circumstances.

    [–]CatOnDrugz [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    I think you should maybe just imagine this happening to you.

    [–]i'm only pretending to be retardedblastcage [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Yeah I'd probably wish death on someone, that doesn't mean it's okay. I'm not condemning him for doing it, because there's a reasonable excuse; it doesn't actually make it a morally okay for someone to be raped in prison

    [–]bryster126 -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I think if someone invades your house and threatens your life and kidnaps you, you have the right to say whatever the fuck you want about their anus.

    [–]Dethruptor 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You have the right to say whatever the fuck you want if someone just held you at gunpoint, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's morally just to wish rape onto another person.

    You only serve to tarnish your own character by saying this.

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      [–]Xathras1 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Wishing someone to get raped is fine.

      Raping someone isn't.

      [–]Unashamed Valve fanboyWar_Dyn27 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      Well of course it isn't fine.

      But I don't blame SUNSfan at all for his vindictiveness. If the dota community hadn't raised the alarm, who knows how bad things could have gone.

      I am also bothered how many people seem to be concerned more by SUNSfan's idle comment, than the very real crime committed by the man he is wishing ill upon.

      [–]GrmpMan -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

      I don't see a problem with it when he threatened his life just saying

      [–]NERFEDGuacOp 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Wishing bad things to happen to people who do bad things don't do anything to help the problem of people doing bad things to begin with. By showing empathy and compassion, you can better guide people and help them, rather than spurning them.

      [–]Glid3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      I think its more than he posted it as a popular figure. Would most of us think it if it happened to us? Sure. Does that make it acceptable; not really.

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        [–]Scrotote 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

        i just hope it's not sheever that tries to ravage his anus

        [–]tglstan -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

        anus ravaged

        no one got the reference?

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          [–]blackinitialz 7ポイント8ポイント  (6子コメント)

          For anyone that don't know about this incident

          [–]pvmcfi 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Holy fuck I just want to pause the video for a second and it has to switch to another one instantly because the retarded uploader puts a huge link box over the video.

          Who does that even.

          [–]www.dotabuff.com/players/58137193Humg12 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          At least it isn't blocked in you country.

          [–]Sergeant_Scrumptious 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Shows me an error picture and a message "the connection was reset."

          EDIT Works now

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            [–]SirActionSlacks- 27ポイント28ポイント  (6子コメント)

            rekt

            [–]joelthezombie15 101ポイント102ポイント  (85子コメント)

            Oh hooray a prison rape joke.

            I like sunsfan and its not his fault but I hate that people make jokes of prison rape. Its still a fucked up thing to wish upon someone.

            Again, not sunsfans fault society is the one that makes it ok to say, its just messed up.

            Either way its good the guy got caught and put in prison.

            [–]Cinimi [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

            In general as a Scandinavian I think it's horrible to wish people getting punished in prison, it's why in the US prisons create more crime, while we decriminalize...

            however, how the fuck can they get 30 years of prison just for burglary?? They must have done something else right?

            [–]joelthezombie15 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            Im not super well versed in the story but from what i understand they also had guns with them so that is armed robbery which is a much more serious crime.

            I agree, prison should be used to fix smaller criminal and keep the completely fucked up ones out of public. It shouldnt be making these people who maybe got busted for smoking weed or like small time robbery into full blown criminals like it does now because those kind of people can change and will learn.

            Of course murders and rapists and people like that probably wont change and should be held in prison to keep them out of prison while they attempt to rehabilitate them (not saying they can be rehabilitated but there is a chance they can be.)

            [–]WordsSP [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            Yes, there's discussion about it below. They held hostages, were armed, were caught before, who knows what else.

            [–]nihlushall13 41ポイント42ポイント  (34子コメント)

            Eh, these guys broke into his house and threatened the life of not only him but also his girlfriend. If they weren't streaming then, they may not be alive right now. I agree with what you're saying, but I'd give SunsFan the benefit of the doubt.

            [–]joelthezombie15 19ポイント20ポイント  (31子コメント)

            I just think just because someone did something bad doesn't mean its ok to have something bad done to them.

            Prison is bad enough rape on top is over board.

            [–]nihlushall13 47ポイント48ポイント  (10子コメント)

            I definitely agree, but I wouldn't blame SunsFan for not being as rational as we are.

            [–]Yep, you're deadrenato502 16ポイント17ポイント  (1子コメント)

            If only SunFan was privileged with the mind and wisdom of us redditors.

            [–]nihlushall13 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Alas, only a chosen few can have the privilege of browsing dank memes all day like we do.

            [–]joelthezombie15 9ポイント10ポイント  (7子コメント)

            I specifically said I didnt blame him.

            [–]nihlushall13 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

            Then I guess we were saying the same thing.

            [–]The GRRRRrrrRRrrrRRrrRRrrRrRrRrrAND MAGUS!Killburndeluxe 40ポイント41ポイント  (5子コメント)

            You two should cosplay as Ogre Magi in TI5.

            [–]writesinlowercase [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

            there's a reason people who have been subjected to violence and yet still don't wish ill on their tormentors afterwards are looked up to. it's a completely natural reaction, one that we can look on from afar and say 'well, that's probably not the way we should punish people'. don't be too harsh on someone just because they want a bit of vengeance, we have the courts and our justice system for a reason.

            [–]Strachmed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            there's a reason people who have been subjected to violence and yet still don't wish ill on their tormentors afterwards are looked up to

            Are they being looked up to, though?

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              [–]hsm4ever [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

              you reap what you sow. Nobody forced you to take that route.

              [–]HollrHollrGetCholera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              I guess I can't find it in myself to care, about the prison rape joke or the (now) prisoner. There are far too many other people and situations to be concerned about than whether or not a convicted felon is being treated inhumanely by other convicted felons.

              And I disagree. If someone does something bad, then something bad should be visited upon them, theoretically in proportion to their actions (which I would say the 30 years in prison covers). Actions should have consequences, both good and bad.

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                  [–]Snape kills Harry PotterSarg338 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Oh hooray a prison rape joke.

                  Hey man, all he has to do is say "You can't have my booty" and he wont get raped!

                  [–]ScruffTheJanitor [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  If you had what happened to sunsfan happen to you, you would think they same. Face down on the ground with a gun to their head? I would say thinking that way is fine.

                  [–]socrates111 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Oh hooray a prison rape joke.

                  Classic SUNSfan

                  [–]I like slark too!Zero-Kelvin 6ポイント7ポイント  (9子コメント)

                  You wouldn't feel so preachy if someone held you and your loved ones at gunpoint for hours, You would be out for blood too.

                  SUNSFAN has every right to be angry for those who would kill people.

                  [–]drezdenx 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  we tumblr now

                  [–]Envy did nothing wrong.Daralii 27ポイント28ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Implying that part of Tumblr would care about a man being raped.

                  [–]Vulpix0r [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  You can't rape men, they belong to the patriarchy. According to tumblr anyway.

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                      [–]ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ﾉ raise your gemsProtosega 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      We did it Reddit?

                      [–]GROSSEMERDE 18ポイント19ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      SJW meeting right here holy fuck

                      [–]micphi 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      Complete with at least one actual non-ironic "good sir".

                      [–]necromimi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      "Wishing rape on someone is bad (I'm here for the comment karma boys.)"

                      [–]RedOrmTostesson 11ポイント12ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      ITT: people who have no problem saying one team raped another, that hero got raped, or I hope rtz gets raped mid -- all now suddenly have a moral issue with the word.

                      Honestly, I hope you people remember this outrage the next time it slips out of tobi's mouth.

                      [–]L1ghtmare 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      The moral issue is not with the word but with the intent people believe Suns used it with.

                      [–]asepwashere 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      meanwhile mushi still rape his enemies

                      oops,SJW is coming

                      [–]Chaos DunkCNHphoto 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      For the record, I don't really like Tobi.

                      [–]http://dotabuff.com/players/15634505Frekavichk 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      There is a large difference between using rape in a video game to refer to beating someone and actually wishing rape upon someone in prison.

                      [–]pvmcfi 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Different contexts.

                      Not that I care about SUNSfan saying it here, but it's still different context.

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                        [–]xaxaMexicaner 11ポイント12ポイント  (17子コメント)

                        30 years for home invasion? What state does he live in? Seems so much from my viewpoint. Worst criminals in my country, Denmark, gets max 16, often shorter. Only in those nut cases can they get more than that. Its a fucking burglar, how do you expect him to get his life on track if he is ruined in prison.. Ill probably get downvoted cuz this is american forum..

                        [–]nihlushall13 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

                        It states in a news article that one of the guys was charged with "armed robbery, kidnapping, first-degree burglary, theft of a firearm, and theft of a credit card.". They didn't just break into a house. It was a lot more than that.

                        [–]DotaDeep 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Probably because their were armed that they got a long sentence.

                        [–]Chaos DunkCNHphoto 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        He lives in Arizona. I'm gonna guess that there were other crimes that he is also getting punished for. I'm a bit surprised you didn't consider that as a possibility.

                        [–]ArizonaIcedOutBoys 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        If you are the kind of person who can enter someones home and rob them at gunpoint you should consider yourself lucky if you ever see the light of day again. You have to be a real twisted fuck.

                        [–]TheMoogster[🍰] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Worst criminals in my country, Denmark, gets max 16, often shorter.

                        Sorry, that is simply not true, we have up to life sentence in Denmark. It can be re-evaluated at ~16 years, but it is entirely possible to spend the rest of your life in prison.

                        [–]I like slark too!Zero-Kelvin 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Its fair, He was holding 2 people at gunpoint just for money.

                        [–]selectorate_theory 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Even in my area of the US, I hear about home invasion all the times and it never got as serious as this. In the old thread, there was a video of a SWAT team coming in for this even. I'm dumbfounded as well.

                        [–]HollrHollrGetCholera 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        It's not just for home invasion; it's never just for one thing. Prosecutors will attempt to charge criminals like this for every possible crime committed, and it seems like they got all of them. Depending on how many that is, it can add up to quite a lot of time.

                        [–]Miyakuzi [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Well maybe he was send to a private jail( yes those exists in the usa, they are basically companies). If the warden (the CEO in this case) is buddy buddy with a judge, the judge will give longer sentences since this will increase the amount of money the jail makes. Yeahh american justice system is pretty fucked up. Also in the more culturally civelized europe the emphasize of someone going to jail is on rehabilitation (which clearly works and has been proven to be very effective by numerous prominent studies), in norway for example you have open prisons where the prisoners can walk freely. There are no bars in the entire facility. This leads to a stagering recidivism rate of 20%, the lowest in the world. While in the USA the rate is 80%. So the main emphasis in the USA is punishment and not rehabilitation, which clearly is an outdated way of thinking and just doesn't work. For some reason the USA always tend linger behind on such important social issues, maybe is has to with the fact that so many are extremely religious ( new born Christians) but who knows?

                        [–]大丈夫Lansan1ty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        You might not know this, but most "Crimes" are more than one crime. Even when it goes down to something as small as a speeding ticket. In this case, the criminals got charged with multiple things (earning time with each individual charge).

                        For the Speeding Ticket example this is where being well mannered to the cops can help you. You can get a ticket for only speeding and be on your way, or no ticket at all if you realllly talk your way out of it. But if you go off on the cop and start yelling about how you pay his taxes and that you were "only" going 9 mph faster than the speed limit and that everyone goes 10mph (etc etc) they can throw much more on you, things like reckless endangerment, as well as adding on more points onto your drivers license, like changing lanes or passing improperly. It can be the difference between a small ticket and losing your license.

                        Same goes with "violent" crimes. Rape is bad. Rape with a gun is worse. One gets you more years than the other.

                        [–]bjarkebjarke [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        Worst criminals in my country, Denmark, gets max 16, often shorter.

                        That's just not true. It can be extended, and many who are found guilty of extreme crimes are put in "forvaring" which means they won't get out until a judge/psychiatrist says so. Some are there for decades more than 16 years.

                        [–]BOW TO YOUR KINGDeeBoFour20 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        He's not "just a burglar." Burglary alone is where you steal something and then leave (usually somewhere unoccupied.) This guy broke into someone's home (that alone is considered worse than if he robbed a liquor store or something), with a gun (bumping it up from burglary to armed robbery), and on top of that IIRC he forced them on the ground or into another room or something which is considered kidnapping (another very serious charge.)

                        Also I don't know how you do it in Denmark but in the US we have parole so depending on the state he gets charged in he may only do 15 years in actual prison, get released early, and serve the rest on parole (you get a parole officer you have to check in with a couple times a month, pay fines, pass drug tests and all that or you get sent back to prison.)

                        [–]rico2014 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                        What about the victims? You think you are building a better world?

                        NO.

                        This is what your kind of people leading the world to: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

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                          [–]xKurogashi 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          can someone give a summary on what happened? how did the thief get away? how was he caught?

                          [–]The GRRRRrrrRRrrrRRrrRRrrRrRrRrrAND MAGUS!Killburndeluxe 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Sajedene was streaming while Sunsfan was around the house. Two guys entered with weapons.

                          Since she was streaming on Twitch with a facecam, it recorded the incident, along with the person's face, robbing the place while carrying a gun. People (primarily Cyborgmatt) contacted the authorities, they got caught somewhere nearby.

                          Notes:

                          It took them a year to prosecute this guy.

                          People from different parts of the world helped Sajedene and Sunsfan, through the power of friendship, twitch chat and Kappas.

                          They were locked in a room. The two guys planned for one guy to hold Sajedene in their home while the other guy force Sunsfan to withdraw from an ATM. Guys got caught before this happened.

                          [–]Pelicanxo 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          holy fuck people are becoming such fucking princesses, get over yourselves normies

                          [–]MillionMonkeyArmy 5ポイント6ポイント  (16子コメント)

                          Good. A violent psychopath belongs in prison for a long time.

                          I don't get all the euros whining about the long punishment. I live in europe myself and wish hell on all violent criminals. Esp. repeat offenders like this must be.

                          [–]Na_rien 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

                          The point of "short punishments" is that the criminal is supposed to have a chance to rehabilitate.

                          I have no idea about the circumstances regarding this crime, so I can't really say if 30 years is too much or not. But I do believe that any hope of getting a rehabilitated man out of jail 30 years later are slim to none, meaning this man will most likely be just as criminal when he gets out. Which will lead to more crimes.

                          I guess it comes down to "do you want to fix the problem, or just get ridd of it?"

                          [–]aglobalnomad [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          I imagine that they were tried for more than breaking & entering and burglary which is why they have such a long prison sentence. They held SunsFAN and Sagadene hostage which is equivalent to kidnapping, a pretty serious crime and a felony.

                          http://criminal.findlaw.com/criminal-charges/kidnapping.html

                          [–]MillionMonkeyArmy 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

                          First time offenders should be the ones you put all bells and whistles on. Rehabilitate them.

                          Crimes that have no violence or harassment, try your best but I don't have any hopes for them.

                          Violent repeat offenders? Give them 30 more years when they get out if they didn't get the message the first time. Let them die in prison for all I care. It's a very strong difference for someone smoking some damn herb and kidnapping, pistolwhipping/threatening with a deadly weapon, assault and theft/home invasion felonies. If you do shit like that over and over, I have no sympathy. 30 years in prison for this series of crime is neither cruel or unusual. He knew he had this coming and he deserves every second of it.

                          [–]deeleelee [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

                          you realize YOU the taxpayer are paying insane amounts of money to keep people alive for 30 years in prison right?

                          [–]walterlewout [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          The death sentence and a relatively early release are out of question so you just have to settle with 30 years in jail. Also, the death sentence program is very expensive relative to the expense of keeping a person in jail for the rest of their life.

                          [–]Microchaton [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          costs more to execute them

                          [–]hsm4ever [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          just a fraction of what we are paying for the politicians to talk shit everyday.

                          [–]BOW TO YOUR KINGDeeBoFour20 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                          We're paying a lot more to house nonvoilent drug offenders though. People that break into other people's houses with guns are exactly the ones that need to be in prison.

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                              [–]odeszan 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              hope all you pathetic judgemental cunts get a gun held to your head in the next few days, this piece of shit deserves gets abused for the rest of his life and die a horrible death

                              [–]uebekmjauz 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              ITT: The word 'rape' triggering stupid SJW's

                              [–]exitns 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              That must take a huge load off of their heart, that kind of thing isn't easy to deal with.

                              Welp, at least that criminal is gone for a very very long time, hopefully his friend gets the same treatment.

                              [–]Supportdrododruffin 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              I'm still convinced the guys just didn't like his way of broadcasting

                              [–]enemyocean 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              There seem to be alot of citizens in the thread that don't understand the internet

                              [–]THE BIGGEST GODSxdaftphunk 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Good for them. My parents house was robbed, thankfully nobody was home, but they made out with tons of stuff and our sense of security in our own home.

                              It's an awful experience, I couldn't imagine what would have happened if my parents were there and were held at gun point. When you cant even safe in your own house sucks ass.

                              [–]Cyridius -1ポイント0ポイント  (6子コメント)

                              I hope his anus gets ravaged in jail

                              Rape is such a joke guys.

                              Regardless, it's good to hear that they came out of the whole ordeal alright.

                              [–]Jamo_Z 7ポイント8ポイント  (4子コメント)

                              Put yourself in his shoes and say you wouldn't want the criminals to go through hell.

                              [–]romanozvj 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              That's the thing, you're not supposed to put yourself in his shoes. Out of an outsider and the victim, who's thinking more calmly and rationally?

                              [–]Cyridius 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              I've never been through what he has so I can only try and empathize with his horrible experience.

                              I don't want to judge him but regardless I do think that the comment is just negative and shouldn't have been made, but I can understand why he'd say it.

                              I just think you know there's a lot of people who've been through that shit that wouldn't appreciate that, and I'm putting myself in their shoes as well.

                              [–]Interfecter 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              Are these trials the "circumstances" that are preventing SUNSfan from being at the TI5 Qualifier Hub?

                              [–]sajedene [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              No.

                              [–]Chaos DunkCNHphoto 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Possibly, but I think it might be considerate to not pry.

                              [–]timematoom 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              If its in Thailand, he'd just have to paid 20 bucks

                              [–]༼ つ◕_◕ ༽つgiff creppy maiden flair plsSWAG_M4STER 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Ravaged !

                              [–]n0tailShitpoe_Sterr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              For a moment I thought it was SUNSFAN who was sentenced after reading the title. I was like "woah SUNSfan must do some hardcore shi- oh ok"

                              [–]stupidme2014 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              so the "circumstances" were that sunsven wanted to witness the wrath brought upon these low lifes? 30 years too long though. That's more than I've been alive. Kappa

                              [–]TinyTinyFlair [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              Lol you dont fuck with DC

                              [–]fedsmoker [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              ayy lmao what a batshit fucking country. I wonder why the civilized western world considers american prisons a human rights violation.

                              "Hurf durf why do we have problems with crime, violence, guns and drugs? Furthermore I hope anyone who does me any harm gets RAPED for 30 years in prison, because fuck helping people become a part of society"

                              [–]asfastasican1 -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

                              Are there people here that are really trying to act empathetic about the anal comment? You must live sheltered lives. Criminals shouldn't be pampered.

                              If anything sunsfan has bi tendancies so thats why he mentioned anal. I'm being dead serious. Listening to him say things like "we love you all" during the early days of dota cinema was pretty strange.

                              [–]MillionMonkeyArmy [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                              You must live sheltered lives.

                              I think they are hipster trustfund kids who play vidya to be nerdy and go to a college which mom picked for them because it was safe.

                              Criminals shouldn't be pampered.

                              If you pamper hardened psychopaths who pistolwhip people over acouple of benjamins... then you create a lucrative incentive for more crime. However, to truly deal with crime is to be proactive and have good policeofficers on foot patrol without being police-statey about it. Also to deal with people in the risk-zone in the school environment without being overtly intrusive. (Yes, easy to say, but done right, this is what works.Good honest policework to help people, schools that teach etc. The exact opposite to the numbers game shown in the wire for instance).

                              Furthermore, creating an economic climate where it's easy to get a job, any job.

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                                [–]small_root 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Sweet Justice is Sweet.

                                [–]selectorate_theory 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                Uhm could anyone explain why this case seems to be treated so harshly? Is it really just home invasion? Reading the old thread, there are even videos of a SWAT team coming in.

                                I live in a college town and people got robbed quite frequently (we got an email reporting incidents once every two months it seems). I've never seen anything being treated seriously by the police (and now the prosecutor) such as this.

                                [–]ltsmokin 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                Held people at gun point and were going to rob a bank with hostages?

                                [–]selectorate_theory [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                                Got it. I had to go back and read the old press release.

                                [–]http://dotabuff.com/players/15634505Frekavichk 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

                                It was a home invasion, stealing guns, armed robbery, hostage, apparently tried to steal his credit card, etc.

                                Basically the guy fucked up and the police are throwing the book at him.

                                [–]Flowtaro -4ポイント-3ポイント  (4子コメント)

                                wishing rape on someone! so awesome~!

                                [–]DRINK SOME ORANGE JUICEnevar_rasict-Iswar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                I disagree with the joke but I can't blame him after being held at gunpoint :/

                                [–]tonyzek 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Maybe if you would be the one that got robbed and could be killed, you would say something else.

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