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Rules regarding personal pictures discussion (self.ploungeafterdark)

MasterT231[M] が 投稿 - stickied post

Hey everybody, one of your mods MasterT here with a very important topic to discuss today.

Personal NSFW pics, now over the last few days some users have been wondering if we simply just don't care about rule 3 or don't care in general. I have to disagree.

To be honest we kind of don't know how to handle these types of post. That is what we were hoping you guys could help us decide.

Here are our ideas so far

  • Banning these posts completely and instead linking to PloungeGoneWild.

  • Special types of flair for such a post, and new rules for covered up sexual organs.

  • A weekly Megathread for everyone to get their pics out in the open

  • Or Restrictions on what can be posted.

This post wasn't made to single out anyone. We just don't want this to be a problem in the future.

I'm looking forward to hearing your feedback on the ideas.

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[–]Synes7hesia 13ポイント14ポイント  (4子コメント)

This subreddit was founded to be an NSFW /r/MLPLounge. NSFW in the sense that Clop and other materials could be posted without repercussions. It was never intended to be be a place for blatant porn posts.

I'd recommend allowing the posts where there is still some form of clothing (a la Jess's butt posting yesterday) while removing content with no body coverage. Note that this only pertains to pictures of the users and not generic porn or clop.

Leave rule #3 where it stands and don't make excuses or find ways around it. You need to be firm on your rules, guys or at least offer an in-depth explanation as to why you're allowing it ("We discussed it and we liked it" doesn't quite cut it). That's the biggest part of this.

That's my take on this.

[–]MyNameIsNavy -4ポイント-3ポイント  (3子コメント)

"We discussed it and we liked it" doesn't quite cut it

thats not what i said at all, thanks for twisting my words

what i said was "we discussed it and decided to allow it"

[–]Synes7hesia 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not really twisting words if it ends up meaning the same thing. You didn't provide any explanation as to why you allowed it to bypass rule #3. You only claimed to have had a discussion and that was it. No explanation to your subscribers as to why you decided this should be allowed.

You want to clear it, that's all well and good. But everyone deserves an explanation as to why you decided such.

[–]MyNameIsNavy -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/uRxn3U6.png

enough?

[–]Synes7hesia 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Minimally. Still no reasons there other than "We both say it's okay", but hey, little steps are still good.

[–]GoldenNeko 10ポイント11ポイント  (13子コメント)

"We don't really know how to deal with posts that break the rules, should we just change the rules? Or do our jobs and delete them? You know, the reason that the rule exists"

You guys are champions.

[–]MasterT231[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (12子コメント)

Not at all, we don't know how to deal with posts that walk between the line of some rules and we would like some community feedback on what would be viable without pissing off a bunch of people.

[–]GoldenNeko 8ポイント9ポイント  (11子コメント)

You should make a poll!

Are they showing personal naked bits not allowed in public y/n

Is there a rule against showing personal naked bits not allowed in public y/n

Should we follow these rules since we are moderators of the sub or should we change them cause a girl is posting her ass y/n

[–]DemSexayPonez_ 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Megathread so I dont have to see a thousand fucking butt post

Edit:And why not just post to ploungegonewild ffs

[–]Uma_no_Sekkusu 5ポイント6ポイント  (19子コメント)

/r/PloungeGoneWild was made for this very reason.

[–]MyNameIsNavy 1ポイント2ポイント  (18子コメント)

no, PGW was made for pornographic images, mainly: Dicks and Vaginas

these are butts, usually clothed butts

http://strawpoll.me/4481160

please answer this!

[–]Synes7hesia 5ポイント6ポイント  (16子コメント)

no, PGW was made for pornographic images, mainly

And a picture of the use of a sex toy isn't pornographic?

[–]DemSexayPonez_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (15子コメント)

It definitely is. It's literally a dildo in an asshole.

[–]Synes7hesia 4ポイント5ポイント  (14子コメント)

Apparently, we have a no-nudes rule to avoid minors from seeing naked pictures. Nobody said anything about toy usage though!

[–]DemSexayPonez_ 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

You should be a lawyer findin all these loopholes

[–]Synes7hesia 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wouldn't call them loopholes. More like problems in their logic that could be explained by someone making excuses and losing. If it was the whole story and was completely true, we wouldn't have any gaps in logic, as I see it.

[–]Xesyliad 0ポイント1ポイント  (11子コメント)

Yet, it's okay to expose minors to seeing pictures of toys on beds, reviews of toys, discussions about explicit content including fetishes and so on?

You have a very twisted and narrow opinion on what is arguably legal, or not when it comes to exposing minors to explicit content, though let me assure you, "naked pics" isn't where the line is drawn legally.

[–]Synes7hesia 0ポイント1ポイント  (10子コメント)

Um...well...can I just say that I hope you weren't using "you" to point to me specifically. That was meant to be sarcasm based on previous claims by the moderating team.

[–]Xesyliad 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

I'm replying to your post, but the "you" could be interchanged for the mod team. Either way, I have seen you being very vocal about this issue, particularly in the negative.

Put it like this, if this sub isn't marked NSFW by the mods here, I'm sure the Reddit Admins will if they catch wind of what's going on in here (even pruned to before the pics arrived).

[–]Synes7hesia 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I think we're on the same side of this discussion then...?

I just want the rules to be enforced evenly among all members and to be given an explanation if an exception is made. Also the whole NSFW thing needs to be done if this sub continues as it is.

[–]Xesyliad 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Then it appears we are on the same side.

This sub needs to be made NSFW and "legal" content needs to be permitted, with mod age verification if anyone chooses to post pics.

It's a simple rule ... "Self pics are permitted, with age verification".

If you don't want to do that, then don't post pics ... it's not rocket science.

[–]GoldenNeko 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

The reddit admins were informed last night before this post ever went up. I messaged them informing them of the situation, of the circumstances behind it, and of the very lax security in a sub that is frequested by highschoolers.

The mods sent me a post back last night saying that it would be "looked in on" and have not said anything since.

If you actually do have an issue about this, you should also message them so the priority is moved up and this can be resolved faster.

[–]Xesyliad 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly had no idea this sub wasn't marked NSFW, since learning that, the mods need to make a choice, NSFW or not, or let the admins decide for them.

I will probably contact them, and also contact them about PLGW since many who post there, post here, and I'm quite sure there's no age verification going on there.

[–]Enormous_Snake 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

And the occasional bare-chested male ;)

[–]Enormous_Snake 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I agree with the second idea.

The personal picture thing has been pretty fun, and honestly livened up the sub a bit.

[–]Coffeebuck 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the tiny chance that anyone actually cares about anybody's opinions here...

Option 1.

[–]serbian_swag 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

That second solution sounds like a good'un.

[–]MasterSubLink 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think it would be best to specifically clarify what counts as "personal nudes". One recent post I would consider as a "personal nude" but others apparently don't.

[–]MasterT231[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I get what you mean after reviewing some of the recent posts.

And I think that's a great idea.

[–]An_Incognito_Walrus 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

I vote for the fifth option: make the sub a NSFW sub and eliminate the 3rd rule.

That being said, users should demonstrate self control and limit how much they post their lewd pictures. Don't get me wrong I love the pictures, but one person making 11 posts in around 24-48 hours is too much. If someone wants to post so many lewd pictures they should condense it to a handful of posts and/or albums.

I also feel they need their own flairs as mentioned in option 2

[–]MasterT231[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I liked my rule that a user can only post 2 times a day.

[–]An_Incognito_Walrus 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Was that in the post? I'm tired and my eyes are groggy

[–]MasterT231[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was one of the ideas discussed between the mods but the ones up there are general ones.

[–]TruerThanTrue 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm mostly in agreement with that.

Why's it an NSFW sub where certain, still legal and pertinent, NSFW isn't allowed?

[–]An_Incognito_Walrus 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

The original purposes of it being an SFW sub was so those under 18 could come here. Because, as we all know, no one under 18 lies at the "Are you over 18?" screen :P

[–]TruerThanTrue 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right? That was my exact thought.

[–]smokeybehr 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Porn should go to PGW. Clop goes here.

[–]Bashi_Hart 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

As much as I enjoy seeing all the naughty pics, it seems this sub isnt +18 after all.

I kinda wanna say we move them to a new sub. If pgw is for more explicit stuff, maybe some of us can make a plounge gone mild. That way we have a place to post softer nudes and undies pics.

I love this place and aside from one person, i feel like everyone's been friendly to me and i dont want it shut down cus little jimmy was caught with some boobs on screen

[–]MyNameIsNavy[M] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally i'm a fan of the weekly megathread, The special flair is a good idea but i rarely see link flairs used these days...

[–]shellbullet17 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

Restrictions sound nice.

[–]MasterT231[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Restrictions implying that the pic can not be of a person performing a sexual activity, masturbating, and etc.

And they would have to be covered up with underwear/bra so rule 3 would be enforced a lot more.

[–]throwawayaccount997 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I vote weekly mega, it won't segregate the community, and people who don't want to see these types of posts can ignore the one thread. Of course people should use PGW first before PAD

[–]bufurd 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

SOCIAL ANARCHY! DOWN WITH THE MAN! POST WHATEVER PICS WE WANT!

[–]TheKinginYellow 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

A weekly thread seems fun, but option one seems like the right choice.

[–]FUS_ROH_yay 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Personally, as long as the subject is 18+ and the subject is the person posting said photo, I don't have a problem with it. Maybe in principle my vote would be for marking NSFW just for sake of being thorough, but idk. I'm one of the shyest people here probably

[–]LunarMist2 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

I vote for #1. Would rather not seen anything close to a nude...that stuff can be saved for other subreddits imo.

Fine, middle ground. #2 sounds fine. As long as the exact rules are made clear and enforced. Jess's latest pic is clearly nude, and should not have been approved by the mods. That or restrictions, they are basically the same thing.

[–]MyNameIsNavy[M] 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

http://strawpoll.me/4481160

GUYS PLEASE ANSWER THIS

[–]Valladium 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Wait, I voted yes and probably didn't want to. Would not making the PAD 18+ ban all nudes regardless of cover up ness?

[–]MyNameIsNavy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

making it 18+ allows nudes (in a megathread)

not making it 18+ will allow pics as long as the part being shown is mostly covered by clothes

[–]Valladium 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Eh, I'm cool with a megathread.

[–]VerifJess 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Surprisingly enough, I said no. I don't want this place full of dicks.

[–]MasterSubLink 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

Some people don't want this place full of anyone's genitals.

[–]VerifJess -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've not posted anything of my vagina

[–]LunarMist2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

marking as 18+ does not mean it will be a free-for-all.

[–]smokeybehr 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I voted no, because that's what PGW is for.

[–]MyNameIsNavy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

thats what the megathreads would be for, to promote discussion and allow people to have a single thread to post what they want

[–]Legon750 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a fan of the second idea. It allows people to quickly decide if they want to click on the post without putting too much restriction on the OP.

[–]gbrincks 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Second one looks good.

[–]Xesyliad 1ポイント2ポイント  (12子コメント)

The sub is NSFW, if you're here, expect the worst. As long as it's not illegal, it should be allowed (age verification required by mods). Once age verified, tag the user and they can post their own nudes, and nobody elses.

That's my opinion.

[–]MyNameIsNavy 1ポイント2ポイント  (11子コメント)

the sub isn't marked NSFW - if it was, then we'd have no issue with personal nudes

[–]Xesyliad 4ポイント5ポイント  (10子コメント)

Uhh, it deals with NSFW content, why isn't it marked NSFW?

The solution is simple, mark the sub NSFW and problem solved, after all the content being discussed here is already over 18, there shouldn't be anyone underage here.

It's either allow adult material and mark the sub NSFW, or ban all NSFW material, including discussions and art, etc.

[–]LunarMist2 3ポイント4ポイント  (5子コメント)

Unfortunately, there's no way they are gonna mark the sub as 18+.

[–]MyNameIsNavy 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

last time i tried, everyone went batshit insane on me

[–]Xesyliad 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Everyone?

You mean the minors that shouldn't be viewing this content?

Yeah ... I would hate to be seen enabling minors ability to view most of the content in the sub, let's be honest.

[–]LunarMist2 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

As Sonya said. Age is a touchy subject for the plounge, and too much for them.

[–]MyNameIsNavy 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

well we're not the plounge

[–]LunarMist2 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Both subs have a large common userbase.

Only way to find out is to ask.

[–]MyNameIsNavy 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

its not marked NSFW because minors are allowed to discuss stuff here. Posts themselves are marked NSFW, and that's why we have the no personal nudes rule. we don't want minors posting nudes here, as it can lead to the subreddit's shutdown

[–]Xesyliad 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well ... this is a different can of worms entirely.

Make the choice between allowing minors in the sub, and banning nudity entirely (which will include art, and other styles) and keeping any discussion "moderate" that is, ban all talk about toys, techniques and explicit flirting as well as fetishes.

Or ... mark the sub NSFW and minors can enter at their own risk protecting yourselves (the mods) and the content from being shut down.

Because to be honest, this sub is NSFW, the content here really isn't meant for minors in any way, and before the personal pictures showed up, there has been lengthy, explicit discussion and pictures on sexual content not fit for minors.

I'm quite certain, if a reddit admin were to review this sub (even before the pics) they would ask it be marked NSFW.

[–]MyNameIsNavy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

banning nudity entirely (which will include art, and other styles) and keeping any discussion "moderate" that is, ban all talk about toys, techniques and explicit flirting as well as fetishes.

then we rename to MLPlounge

[–]Xesyliad 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Then you expose minors to explicit content.

I'm sorry, but as an adult, I am genuinely struggling with the concept of permitting minors in a sub that is quite clearly, and openly explicit.

[–]DemonicThomas 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, no rules were really broken, i mean, no one was 100% nude right?

[–]MasterT231[S] 3ポイント4ポイント  (3子コメント)

Technically, a poster was nude and performing a sexual act upon herself with a sex toy.

[–]DemonicThomas 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I literally just saw that.

My opinion on this really... If your legal, and if its not causing harm to anyone, then, fine, fuck that rule, just add a less strict rule in its place, like a set amount of personal pics allowed a day, by all users, so not like, one person can only post this much, but like, in general. Out of all users, only 2-3 allowed per day, the others taken down, and will be able to repost at another time

[–]MasterT231[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

That was kind of my idea, but it wouldn't help out the NSFWness of the personal pics.

[–]DemonicThomas 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, people are going to be people. Think of it like this, how much pony porn is posted here, a metric shitton and a half, (not so much the past few weeks) why is it that nsfw ponies are allowed, but humans (our species... Minus a select few) are for some reason frowned apon, this place is supposed to be kind of a place to kick back, and enjoy what we enjoy, ponies, porn, and good times with friends... And if we take porn out of the equasion what are we.... Normal plounge with the ability to openly talk about sex, where is the fun in that?

[–]FluttershyGuy20 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

How about option 5: FUCK YO RULES, NIGGA. But in all honesty, I like option 2. Or 3 works too.

[–]MasterT231[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

BITCH!

[–]FluttershyGuy20 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

FIGHT ME, NIGGA. SQUARE UP.

[–]MasterT231[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

BIIIIIIIITCH!

I LOVE YOU!

[–]FluttershyGuy20 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

WHY YOU GOTTA BE GAY, NIGGA?

[–]MasterT231[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

WHY YOU GOTTA BE GAYER BOI?

[–]FluttershyGuy20 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

DON'T HATE ME CUZ I'M BEAUTIFUL, NIGGA

[–]Valladium 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

So, why was rule three created in the first place? I'm not saying we should do away with it, I support completely banning anything personal nsfw, but what lead to that rule?

[–]MasterT231[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

Guy posted his dink here early in the day and boom Rule 3 was introduced

[–]Valladium 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

So was it full dink? Not just a little glans poking out?

[–]MasterT231[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Straight on erect dink my friend.

[–]Valladium 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm guessing it wasn't well received?

[–]TruerThanTrue 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Apparently not, haha

[–]Valladium 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

So everyone likes these since they're vajoos and the PAD is a meat fest, so no one cares about rule three. Do away with it, don't, but some consistency in enforcing rules would be nice. At least they're trying to get a community consensus on it now.

[–]TruerThanTrue 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah, basically.

I still don't understand why so many people are just entirely and completely against the idea of there being non-animated non-horse nudity on here.

If the posts are marked NSFW, what exactly is the difference?

[–]Valladium 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's always maybe someone doesn't want to see non horse stuff. Maybe they don't like it, maybe they don't want it to different or become the norm deviating from the pony stuff. I wouldn't want to see it, if rule three existed or not, it just feels...not really PAD equese. It's really intimate personal stuff that's just out there. For whatever reason why you post it, validation, getting off to compliments, I feel like it just goes against the grain. There are more appropriate subs.

[–]SeatieBelt 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just going to say +1 PAD should be a NSFW sub based on the content it has. And I don't mean today's body shots, I mean the stuff it's always had. Pony porn is posted here, and lewd sexual acts are discussed all the damn time.

It is NSFW and should be labeled properly. If it's illegal for minors to view the content, the mods should not defy the laws and risk getting the sub shut down.

[–]TruerThanTrue 1ポイント2ポイント  (8子コメント)

Why the fuck is everyone so salty about this? Jesus.

The mods are doing their jobs and actually discussing what we should do about this.

I personally don't mind, but I guess the people who stick (it) mainly to the ponies are started to get perturbed.

[–]MasterSubLink 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

Salt makes the popcorn taste better. Tonight has taken an interesting turn. Still, it's good that this discussion is happening.

[–]Synes7hesia 3ポイント4ポイント  (4子コメント)

The mods are doing their jobs and actually discussing what we should do about this.

Only after making excuses and making quite a few users upset, by the looks of things. Don't get me wrong, it's great that discussion is happening, but it shouldn't have taken as much convincing.

[–]TruerThanTrue 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

But I still don't understand why everyone's upset.

Either way, no matter what scenario it is, if there are two sides to the argument, mods are gonna get screamed at.

[–]Synes7hesia 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Because a rule was most definitely broken and the only reason given to the masses (who are asked to abide by said rule) was that "Nah, it's all good. We approved it."

The userbase deserves at least some level of explanation when a rule is bypassed, otherwise it starts smelling a bit fishy.

[–]TruerThanTrue 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

In that case, why is nobody specifically calling out any of the guys that posted similar scantily clad pics (myself included)?

Why are people only upset at the posting of lasy pics in this case?

[–]Synes7hesia 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I haven't seen pictures of guys sticking stuff in their asses around here. That's why.

[–]VerifJess -4ポイント-3ポイント  (18子コメント)

I forced a rule changing decision? Neat~

[–]GoldenNeko 7ポイント8ポイント  (13子コメント)

You broke the rules and since you are a girl they really want to change it so they can get more naked pics of you.

[–]Space4334 2ポイント3ポイント  (8子コメント)

Maybe you should post pictures done the same way hers are done.

[–]GoldenNeko 3ポイント4ポイント  (7子コメント)

You just want more filly porn you perv.

[–]Space4334 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

What are you going on about? Also that's besides the point, okay?

[–]GoldenNeko 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

Don't worry. I will have scootabutt emotes for you soon.

[–]Space4334 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

No Berry Pinch emotes? What a fucking tease.

[–]GoldenNeko 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Find me berry pinch emotes and I will get them!

[–]Uma_no_Sekkusu 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXN1yxax448

[–]VerifJess -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

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[–]FONKEIMONKEI 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

booty

Welp there goes that argument

[–]MasterT231[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (3子コメント)

Not pointing fingers

We just need some rules in case this comes up down the road.

[–]VerifJess 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I really don't mind. Besides the other girl posting bra, I've posted tons of stuff. It's mostly my doing.

[–]MasterT231[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry if you felt singled out

[–]DemonicThomas -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hold on, another point to make here, if a guy can post his boobs, no big deal, but if a female dose it its porn... That is pretty fucking sexest, dont you think?

[–]Engineer5816 -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, so much drama, will i have to be a "popcorn pisser" and link this to /r/SubredditDrama?