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[–]Just_made_this_now 95ポイント96ポイント  (3子コメント)

If everyone stopped treating all games as if they were made for children, a lot of this lunacy would have no justification whatsoever.

[–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/7950@1.1ghz/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space 22ポイント23ポイント  (2子コメント)

but aduults have to have better things to do, like get shitfaced or watch soccer.

[–]JimmyMcShiv 145ポイント146ポイント  (8子コメント)

Just start streaming on Chaturbate. My buddies and I started streaming CS:GO there a few nights ago... Got around 10 viewers haha.

[–]Soulstealers 129ポイント130ポイント  (3子コメント)

"Yeah, buy that AWP you dirty boy"

[–]JimmyMcShiv 19ポイント20ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sadly no one asked me to confirm my age so that they could tip...

[–]Soulstealers 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

But how else are you gonna get that sweet knife money :(

[–]RealTGirl 16ポイント17ポイント  (3子コメント)

I just stream myself naked there, up to 50 viewers when fapping. Maybe I could try streaming games naked? But I would need to use XSplit, since OBS doesn't have virtual cam.

[–]Zantier 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

need to use XSplit, since OBS doesn't have virtual cam

seems legit

[–]RealTGirl 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

What do you mean? Chaturbate only allows cams to be streamed, so I use my webcam, but to add a game to it, XSplit or other app that allows virtual cams is needed.

[–]harpuajim25I want Uplay flair! 758ポイント759ポイント  (99子コメント)

This world is way too sensitive.

[–]Kestyr 160ポイント161ポイント  (14子コメント)

This happened 3 days before Hatred comes out. I'm thinking that's not a coincidence.

[–]ApexRedditr 35ポイント36ポイント  (12子コメント)

This is the game that came to mind when I read the title. That's a guarantee that I'm getting it now.

[–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/7950@1.1ghz/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

the powers that be are trying so hard to censor this game. I was gonna buy it anyway but now I'm gonna buy it and rub it in their faces. Ustream may be getting an influx soon

[–]TwwIX 285ポイント286ポイント  (33子コメント)

Yeah, the political correctness over these past couple of years has been rather disheartening. Not just in terms of gaming but in general.

[–]dilkington11 168ポイント169ポイント  (13子コメント)

This post triggered me.

[–]JimJamJamie 79ポイント80ポイント  (11子コメント)

Do you sexually identify as a gun or something?

[–]Doomblazedoomblazethegreat 63ポイント64ポイント  (9子コメント)

attack helicopter TYVM

[–]PM_ME_UR_BIKE 34ポイント35ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm triggered by acronyms longer than two letters. Check your privilege, shitlord.

[–]smitleyjd4670K + 770SC 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'm triggered by bad triggers.

shit

[–]CataChaos1320 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

So are you like perpetually triggered by your own trigger?

[–]talones 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I literally saw someone commenting seriously about being triggered by the word trigger. Because they knew someone who shot themselves or something.

[–]kanyecolle 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I identify as acronymkin; all acronyms were created equal

[–]Zeriell 12ポイント13ポイント  (1子コメント)

Back in the old days people carried around statues of giant dongs.

Truly, the world has fallen far.

(Yes, Japan still does this, but one musn't use Japan as an example of anything.)

[–]Valhalla_I_Am_ComingA10 7850k, 8GB 1866mhz, 500W 30ポイント31ポイント  (9子コメント)

Racist.

[–]badphish94i7 4790k / GTX 970 11ポイント12ポイント  (8子コメント)

Sexist.

[–]cowbeef01i5-4440/GTX 660 8GB RAM 10ポイント11ポイント  (7子コメント)

Ageist.

[–]internet_man_4154690k@4.4ghz R9290x 8gb. RAM 12ポイント13ポイント  (6子コメント)

Istist

[–]youlox123456789Core 2 Duo w/ 7850 17ポイント18ポイント  (4子コメント)

Helicopterist

[–]XavierMendeli5 3470 | GTX 970 9ポイント10ポイント  (3子コメント)

You're all triggerists. Shitlordists.

[–]BlackenBlueShiti7-2600, 8GB DDR3 WAM, Radeon HD 6770 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

Spoken like a real shitlord

[–]TvojaStara 57ポイント58ポイント  (33子コメント)

*Murica is way too sensitive.

[–]BananaHeadz 36ポイント37ポイント  (7子コメント)

I especially hate it when I'm watching videos on YouTube, and a YouTuber says fuck and censors it. Why!?

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    [–]Cocoapenguin8350, 7850 26ポイント27ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Is that a joke? Japanese porn has to be censored, Australians can't play loads of M rated games, British porn has weird arbitrary restrictions, and not to mention Strafgesetzbuch section 86a.

    [–]redwall_hp 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Until very recently, L4D2 in Australia was the same censored version Germany got. Grenades made zombies disappear instantly instead of gibbing, and I think they censored incendiaries too.

    Also, Witcher 2 was initially banned for "sexual rewards" because you could get a quest from a prostitute. The ban was lifted after an updated version tweaked the dialogue.

    [–]Cocoapenguin8350, 7850 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Exactly, we are not the only ones who have to put up with bullshit censorship and moral policing.

    [–]m4ster 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Isn't porn illegal in Korea (inb4 in false Korea)?

    [–]Cocoapenguin8350, 7850 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Seems that way, according to Wikipedia's porn legality map.

    [–]mabramo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Porn is illegal in Iceland? What's up with that?

    [–]Malak77 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    New Zealand banned "Postal 2": "In 2004, the Office of Film and Literature Classification (New Zealand) banned Postal 2 outright because of its high level violent content, animal violence and a scene that was considered "gross and abhorrent" where the player urinates on dead bodies at a terrorist camp (the game actually features no such scripted scene; such action is only undertaken should the player deliberately choose to do so). The game remains banned and possession, distribution or even buying it for personal use is widely illegal and is a criminal offense, punishable by up to 10 years in prison and a fine of $275,000." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_2

    [–]bump909 15ポイント16ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Well, you can't even sit on someone's face in the UK.

    [–]dbcanuck 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Germany and Australia make America look like a john galt paradise.

    [–]ruffykunn 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Utter bullshit when it comes to nudity and sexuality.

    Sure, violent media get higher age ratings.

    But violence and killing people should be more offensive than two people having sex.

    [–]vanquish421 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No it shouldn't, because none of it is fucking real. It should all have the same rating.

    [–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/7950@1.1ghz/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    There are plenty of sjw in all of the developed world. The UK is just as bad, not sure about france, and canada is arguably worse. Don't even get me started on Germany and Australia

    [–]Justkevin87 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Besides GTA San Andres, I don't think this was that big of a deal imo, most of the games are sex bases and you can just watch porn instead of someone playing porn.

    [–]Soulstealers 347ポイント348ポイント  (37子コメント)

    So ban AO games on the website that has ASCII art of hitler and swastikas spammed in chat.

    Makes sense

    [–]amdcfuk le ps4 xD 143ポイント144ポイント  (0子コメント)

    -( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)╯╲___卐卐卐卐 Don't mind me just taking twitch.tv for a walk

    [–]Junoh315/u/WYLD_STALLYNS thinks my old flair was annoying as fuck 21ポイント22ポイント  (16子コメント)

    Not only that but the rating system we have in the US is kind of strange. You see worse violence in God of War 3 than you do Hatred but Hatred is AO while GoW3 is M.

    [–]panic_more 26ポイント27ポイント  (11子コメント)

    It's more about the context than the content.

    [–]Junoh315/u/WYLD_STALLYNS thinks my old flair was annoying as fuck 25ポイント26ポイント  (10子コメント)

    That's not how the ESRB is supposed to work.

    "The Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) ratings provide concise and objective information about the content in video games and apps so consumers, especially parents, can make informed choices."

    If Hatred was made by a AAA dev then I bet they'd never get that AO rating.

    [–]panic_more 21ポイント22ポイント  (8子コメント)

    You're right, but it's not how it should be. Context changes how the violence is perceived and I agree with hatreds rating over GoW.

    [–]Soulstealers 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Cant be as bad as Australia, wouldn't want to see us in charge of it

    [–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/7950@1.1ghz/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    A lot of games are worse, but the feels police have to make an example of something. Plus this is an indie dev that doesn't tow the sjw line.

    [–]Junoh315/u/WYLD_STALLYNS thinks my old flair was annoying as fuck 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It's not even an SJW problem when it comes to the ESRB. I still don't know how GTA5 and GoW3 got away with being M rated games. If I was in charge of the ESRB then I'd regularly use AO for graphic games so there wouldn't be any stigma attached to it. I'd love to see AO games make it into stores and become a regular label.

    [–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/7950@1.1ghz/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I meant more the response to hatred than the ersb with sjw, but yeah AO games need to be accepted and more than porn games need to get that rating. It will help people know the game isn't for kids and hopefully keep the devils(kids) from ruining the game for everyone.

    [–]Linardi5 4690K/GTX 970/16GB@1866/1080p@60 33ポイント34ポイント  (3子コメント)

    What I dont really understand:

    Mature games are ok which are Age 17 and up right?

    But AO games are not ok, which are Age 18 and up...

    [–]GWizzle 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I believe the difference, at least in theory, is that every other rating (E through M) allows for parental discretion. So as a parent if you think your 14 yr old can handle an M game, or your 10 yr old can handle a T game you can buy it for them. It's kinda like the difference between R and NC-17 movies. Kids can see an R movie with a parent, NC-17 means no one under 17 is allowed in the theater. Now, I don't know if it's actually specified that stores shouldn't sell an AO game to a person if it seems like they're buying it for a kid, especially since AO games are so rare and many places don't even carry them (same with NC-17 movies but at least the MPAA is pretty straightforward with their industry regulations and what they mean, how they're enforced). Video games are treated in a more relaxed manner and the video game industry-retail partnership with regards to enforcing industry regulations is a lot looser. Bottom line is that in a practical, actual sense, AO is a more seriously emphasized Mature rating, reserved for things in a category of their own (explicitly pornographic, sex stuff) or that cross some sort of line with people (Hatred).

    [–]Schnabeltierchen 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Especially since lots of games that are rated M in the US are 18+ in Europe or Australia. Some others are 16+ while it's still M

    [–]ThatsSoAnnoying 109ポイント110ポイント  (24子コメント)

    Clearly this has everything to do with Hatred.

    [–]Needs_more_dinosaurs 2ポイント3ポイント  (23子コメント)

    Why are people talking about this game so much?

    It looks crap.

    [–]NautileusAMD Fanboy 57ポイント58ポイント  (20子コメント)

    Yeah, the game looks like crap, but it's become sort of a symbolic thing. Should games be censored or not? What's acceptable to be shown in a video game?

    Some people think Hatred crosses a line, and some people think anything should be able to be portrayed in video games.

    [–]redwall_hp 34ポイント35ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If somebody asks if x should be censored, or worse...demands it, the answer is unequivocally no.

    [–]Bubcha 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Really? I thought we had these questions figured out by now, what with games like Postal and GTA. I'm not sure how Hatred crosses the line especially since it is receiving an AO rating.

    [–]jschild 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Except this isn't censorship.

    [–]xXxdethl0rdxXx 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Who is censoring Hatred?

    [–]jschild 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No one. People who think if a company doesn't sell an item that is censorship. The US government saying the game cannot be sold in the US would be censorship. GOG saying they don't want to sell it is not.

    [–]JohnnyC4ge 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    People talking about it because Streisand effect.

    [–]azriel777 277ポイント278ポイント  (17子コメント)

    Twitch has really been going downhill. Every time you hear something new about twitch, it is something negative.

    [–]caribou_doodoo 56ポイント57ポイント  (13子コメント)

    Didn't Amazon buy them out? That's probably why.

    [–]B3nzolitz 78ポイント79ポイント  (10子コメント)

    Yeah, but even before Amazon, new news were often negative. (e.g. more latency between streamer and viewer)

    Edit: Difference between i.e. and e.g. ...

    [–]pmstri5 4670k | GTX 960 | 8gb 25ポイント26ポイント  (9子コメント)

    That was to help with server load. I would much rather have 30s delay than have to buffer every 30s.

    [–]ZenZibbehGTX 970 Now with Page file Support 19ポイント20ポイント  (7子コメント)

    I still buffer every 30 seconds when I'm streaming. If I stream to hitbox it's 100% Perfect. If I stream to twitch I get problems.

    :(

    [–]Codeine_au 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Where are you from? Twitch is shit house in Australia, Twitch prioritize their bandwidth.

    Stream live 1080p 60fps from youtube meanwhile can't watch mobile quality on twitch.

    [–]Kodiacki7-5820K (4.5 GHz) | Tri-X R9 290 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Same thing from New Zealand. Twitch has horrible server distribution and it's a frustrating experience in many countries as a result.

    It worked fine when I lived in the States, but went to hell after I moved here, despite me now using a significantly better connection.

    [–]Chaz42 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Twitch just introduced a beta option for low delay streams. I average about 8 seconds of delay now.

    [–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/7950@1.1ghz/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They did but even before that it was mostly negative

    [–]wulfgar_beornegar 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I think since Twitch was bought out, they have to project/protect a more mainstream image, thus their justification for banning adult-only rated games.

    [–]StealthGhost2600k / 780 ti 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Their Fire TV app is shit which is hilarious since Amazon owns them now. They also released another Android app so now I have 2 almost identical apps...just update the fucking thing?

    [–]hobblygobbly 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Okay. Like what?

    I'm struggling to think of an example. The recent hack a few months ago? That's about it.

    Everything else has improved. Site design improved, more CDNs deployed, latency reduced by half just 2 weeks ago. 2 years ago I couldn't watch 1080 on twitch in Europe, now I can, thanks to infrastructure by twitch.

    Don't know what negative thing has happened to twitch recently.

    [–]AhrmiintheUnseenIntel i7-4770 3.4 GHz|NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 151ポイント152ポイント  (37子コメント)

    Is it that hard to just let streams be marked as adults only and/or require an account to view. How many children watch twitch anyway?

    [–]Red-Blue-linux 189ポイント190ポイント  (25子コメント)

    A lot.

    [–]AhrmiintheUnseenIntel i7-4770 3.4 GHz|NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 130ポイント131ポイント  (22子コメント)

    In that case, it's the responsibility of the parents to know and moderate what their children see

    [–]UhmSureWhyNot 56ポイント57ポイント  (20子コメント)

    Twitch wants children to be able to watch most of the popular streams because they get more microtransactions, as there are a ton of kids upping their numbers on streams, thus attracting more viewers who pay.

    [–]Magicbison 28ポイント29ポイント  (19子コメント)

    I don't know what makes you think more child viewers = more subs. Kids don't have money, adults do and its those adults who should be targeted for increases in sub counts.

    [–]Zarokima 31ポイント32ポイント  (1子コメント)

    People (including those that pay) tend to flock to what is popular. More viewers = more popular = attract more viewers, some of which might pay.

    That's the logic, anyway.

    [–]Lawsoffire4K display/32GB/R9 280X/256GB SSD/1.3TB HDD/AMD A-10 6700K 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

    and. you know. adds

    [–]thisdesignup 10ポイント11ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Kids don't have money

    But their parents do and kids can get money from their parents. How else does Minecraft get so many users when the game costs $30 and the vast majority of users are probably less than 20 years old.

    [–]Condawg 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    More viewers = higher rankings on the page = more viewers. If they get a bunch of kids watching, more people that aren't kids that have disposable income become aware of those streams, thus kids watching = more money from other people.

    Makes enough sense. Still would be nice if they had adult-only streams or something similar, but it makes sense.

    [–]UhmSureWhyNot 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Twitch is a high percentage of children, children control the popularity of the channels with their high numbers and trending interests, highly viewed channels attract paying subbers. It's a numbers game.

    [–]protestor 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Kids have daddy's credit card.

    [–]wurkenardlee 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

    My kids have their own debit cards that their allowance gets loaded onto weekly provided they do their chores. They spend most of their funds on roblox. I don't allow them to browse twitch or youtube. Frankly i wonder if roblox is appropriate at times.

    [–]Decepticon1 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Thank you for keeping the future generation away from streamer culture.

    [–]Tomhaphttp://steamcommunity.com/id/Tomhapje 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But how will they learn how to rek skrubs and copypasta? I'm telling you, they'll have a social disadvantage later in life.

    [–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/7950@1.1ghz/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Its nice to see parents doing the right thing isn't it? Streamer culture needs to die.

    [–]ZenZibbehGTX 970 Now with Page file Support 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I know what my little brother sees. But at his age I was doing the same thing. Would be hypocritical of me to actually say something about it.

    [–]BrutalSwedei5 2500K // 16GB RAM // GTX 970 19ポイント20ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's why they have the option to mark your stream as adults only isn't it? This new policy is stupid.

    [–]LostInTheVoid_i5 3570k Asus GTX 660 11ポイント12ポイント  (4子コメント)

    According to twitch's own figures in 2013 76% of viewers were 18+

    http://www.twitch.tv/year/2013 See pages 10-11

    [–]JealotGaming 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Because underage people never lie about their age, right?

    [–]wulfgar_beornegar 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I wouldn't trust statistics that use the fact that someone manually enters their age to gain access to a site.

    [–]wulfgar_beornegar 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    An enormous amount of kids use twitch.

    [–]ld115 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I just never thought that AO games on twitch would be a large enough crowd to warrant much attention. I know I wouldn't exactly want to broadcast MGQ while I played it...

    Can't say why other people would think of doing it in the first place except to generate viewers by being "shocking".

    [–]alphazero924i5 2500k GTX660 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This new rule doesn't even cover eroge since those don't usually go through the ESRB to get a rating. The only game to actually go through the ESRB in recent years and get an AO rating that I know of is Hatred. That's pretty much the only thing this new rule is going to block. Anything else blocked for adult content is going to be blocked under pre-existing sexual content policies.

    [–]zmeul[S] 53ポイント54ポイント  (14子コメント)

    Update: we received clarification regarding the restrictions in Europe and Australia. Looks like bans will only apply to AO games in the US, as below:

    "if the game is AO in the US, then it is not allowed. If the game is not AO in the US, but has a different rating abroad, like The Witcher 3, it is permitted."

    [–]dangerdark 115ポイント116ポイント  (1子コメント)

    So, Hatred is what they're saying, but insulting everyone's intelligence by not explicitly saying it

    [–]Kestyr 48ポイント49ポイント  (0子コメント)

    As it comes out in 3 or 4 days, the agenda there is an incredible obvious thing.

    [–]skilliard4 27ポイント28ポイント  (4子コメント)

    What about unrated games that would probably be rated AO if they were to be analyzed by the ESRB?(Like playing an eroge for the lulz)

    [–]SPOOFE 32ポイント33ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If they're not rated AO in the US, according to the above passage, they're supposedly golden. Though I wouldn't be surprised if that's fluid.

    [–]carthoris26 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You already can't play sex stuff though.

    [–]Modo44 13ポイント14ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Sounds like just another reason to not bother with getting a rating in the US.

    [–]wanderer11i5-3570k / Sapphire 7870 CF 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

    Don't you only need that to sell retail anyway?

    [–]supamesican2500k@4.5ghz/7950@1.1ghz/8GB ram/win7/128GBSSD/2.5TBHDD space 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

    yup online/digital doesn't need it far as I know. Hatred can just not get rated right?

    [–]wanderer11i5-3570k / Sapphire 7870 CF 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's what I was thinking. If you think your game would get ao just go digital

    [–]icechalk 126ポイント127ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Another "We know you aren't intelligent enough to make smart choices for yourselves, so we're taking choices away from you" decision. Stupid, oversensitive, but hardly surprising coming from those who run Twitch.

    [–]PHEEEEELLLLLEEEEP 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I don't think it's about keeping us impressionable viewers safe but rather about trying to sell twitch to a bigger market. They probably think streams of a game like hatred could jeopardize investment or viewership and or twitch monies.

    [–]dhadfhjadfbsdftj45hf 26ポイント27ポイント  (4子コメント)

    And unrated?

    Going by the rating system seems pretty stupid tons of the worst stuff isn't rated in the first place, having actual guidelines in place would be better except that people would freak out more because it would be more obvious how stupid it is.

    [–]micahz3R9 280X 3GB VRAM | FX-6300 4.0Ghz | 8GB RAM 1600Mhz 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Unrated games don't count, like The Binding Of Isaac on PC will still be allowed.

    [–]Sallymander 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm curious about this too.

    [–]dbcanuck 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    what's to prevent Hatred from declaring themselves unrated?

    [–]StargateGuy 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Seems like it'd be easier to mark streams as AO and require age verification than to ban AO games all together.

    Whats the average age of a gamer these days? Late 20s, early 30s? How many adults want to watch a teenager stream E rated games?

    [–]MrAdeio 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

    That's the thing, they already sort of have this. Streamers have the option of marking themselves with a mature content warning.

    [–]Fred_Fred 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    A content warning != Age verification though.

    [–]Ryukenden000 11ポイント12ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Witcher 3, the game where it okay to show boobies.

    [–]squidwalk 21ポイント22ポイント  (3子コメント)

    I know they banned Fahrenheit because it has two sex scenes. But according to Steam it's not an AO title, it's rated M.

    I'm a fan of David Cage games, but not enough so that I care terribly about Fahrenheit getting banned. I care more about the sentiment behind banning plot-based non-AO titles with sex scenes. Twitch is pretending that they're just banning AO titles, but that's clearly not the case.

    [–]Ragegar 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    http://www.esrb.org/ratings/synopsis.jsp?Certificate=20955

    The ESRB rating is the one that matters. Europe and Australia have different organizations that do the rating and as such may differ from US (ESRB) rating.

    [–]squidwalk 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The ESRB rating is the one that matters.

    The Steam page for the game lists it as rated M, like I wrote. The link you provided is the same exact title as the one in the Twitch banned list, but that's irrelevant content-wise. "Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Remastered" is a remastered version of the uncut "Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy Director's Cut". It has the same sexual content as the non-remastered version from the Twitch list/your link. And it's remastered, so one would assume you can see the sex clearer.

    You have to dig quite a bit now to find the non-remastered version of the game. Making the distinction based on uncensored original vs uncensored remastered is arbitrary.

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    [–]hotfrostIntel i5 2500k / MSI Geforce 970 GTX 9ポイント10ポイント  (6子コメント)

    I wonder where Adult games will be normal or accepted? Steam also isn't very fond of adult games and same for YouTube...

    [–]EkarosXeon 1230v3/GTX 770 4GB/16GB/1440p 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

    At least in Europe. Not that stores will pick them up to sale always, but they are treated exactly the same way as "mature" ones.

    I really do find the whole distinction of mature and AO very strange and pointless, but what can you do with puritans...

    [–]Reficul_gninromratsi7 2600k GTX980 8GB RAM 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

    In Europe the ratings are very different and also differ by country. Germanys 18+ for example is quite common, but it doesn't stop stores from selling them in the open. The rating you don't want to get in Germany is to be "indexed" which makes it illegal to advertise your game in public, meaning it can only be bought over the counter if you explicitly ask for it. To be get onto the index a game has to be excessively violent(this was very easy back in the day, nowadays it is a little more relaxed) or include stuff such as swastikas.

    That said there are several indexed games on Steam right now, that I could buy without a problem and also had them advertised on my storefront(namely Postal 2 and 3)

    [–]ShadowthecatXD 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Are you allowed to show nudity on twitch? I know people stream stuff like dragon age and Witcher which have it, and I've heard it isn't allowed so I'm curious if people skip the scenes or censor it themselves.

    [–]pyrodonkey4770k, 780 Ti SLI Watercooled 13ポイント14ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You are allowed.

    Nudity can't be a core focus or feature of the game in question and modded nudity is disallowed in its entirety. Occurrences in game are okay, so long as you do not make them a primary focus of your stream and only spend as much time as needed in the area to progress the game's story.

    Source

    [–]Valhalla_I_Am_ComingA10 7850k, 8GB 1866mhz, 500W 78ポイント79ポイント  (13子コメント)

    This is because of Hatred. I don't understand why it's ok when the polygons you shoot are "Nazis", but when it's "civilians" there's a big deal about it.

    [–]ShadowthecatXD [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    I completely agree with you and your point, but if you tell that reason to a random person who isn't big into gaming they are going to think you are a fucking serial killer, it's REALLY hard to argue pro-hatred, but honestly the game isn't close to good enough for me to care.

    [–]Donners22 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

    The Guy Game isn't among that list of AO games - it'd be interesting to see how that went on Twitch...

    Of those that are, Water Closet: The Forbidden Chamber sounds strangely intriguing.

    [–]TheLawlessMan 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If it fit into this: "Nudity can't be a core focus or feature of the game in question and modded nudity is disallowed in its entirety. Occurrences in game are okay, so long as you do not make them a primary focus of your stream and only spend as much time as needed in the area to progress the game's story."

    [–]earatomicbo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That game is banned in the US for having a 17 year old in it.

    [–]yonan82 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If you object to this, do what I did and cancel your turbo and subscriptions, then email them telling them why. If they lose enough money over this change and get enough bad publicity, hopefully they will change the policy. There are other ways you can support your content providers - generally with them getting a higher cut too.

    [–]PTFOholland 15ポイント16ポイント  (0子コメント)

    What's that? A startup company has been taken over and now is taken turns for the worst?!
    Who would have thought!
    Remember when games were about having fun, no matter the violence as you know.. there are giant warning labels on there?
    But oh welp, gotta be PC and ban everything related to a little game called Hatred.

    [–]arare666 26ポイント27ポイント  (2子コメント)

    As a dad, I rather my kid looks at some streamer play a game about a genocidal maniac and annoyingly spam Kappa 123 with a dose of hitler ASCII than some guy burn down 5000 USD in half an hour through blackjack.

    I mean which is far more likely for a kid to pick up and get influenced by?

    [–]Kaleith 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Just to point out, Twitch has no problem letting people stream online poker. Yeah.

    [–]Kanoucheh 16ポイント17ポイント  (0子コメント)

    They also have no issue with people gambling money on CS:GO Jackpot or Blackjack being said streamer sober or drunk.

    [–]vanityconcubine 41ポイント42ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Before you go pointing your unwashed rat fingers at Amazon, I want to point out something. I was banned from Twitch over the past 6+ years, 3 times. IP banned.

    1. For playing a game pre-Tuesday release
    2. For playing Dante's Inferno at release
    3. Having a discussion about Nazi's during WW2 with a German in ventrilo

    And this was "pre-xsplit" days, when it took some skill to stream games. I had well over 1 million followers and 1-2k viewers daily.

    So, fuck everyone who worked for them and works for them, and I hope the bubble burns to the ground after it pops.

    [–]Eustace_Savage 7ポイント8ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Well said. You can't reason with these moral authoritarian puritans. They will never compromise. It's better to burn them to the ground.

    Listen, and understand. That SJW is out there. It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are banned.

    [–]carthoris26 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    I can see how someone overreacted for 1 (straight up against the rules but unevenly enforced) and 3 (judging by what you hear from tumblr), but what is possibly wrong with 2?

    [–]TannersvanAMD 760k | GTX 650ti 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Nudity, most likely.

    [–]wulfgar_beornegar 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    What do you think is a good competitor network to twitch?

    [–]ClutchHunter7970+7950 // 3770k // 16GB RAM 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Someone further up this thread mentioned Hitbox. Not tried it yet myself.

    [–]LostNoob 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Can't they just have the age rating of the game shown or something?

    I imagine its due to parents complaining forcing Twitch to do this, instead of you know, supervising their children when they use the internet.

    Banning the games from being streamed on Twitch outright is just stupid, its not up to twitch to act as censors, the internet isn't a baby sitter.

    [–]ginx2666 9ポイント10ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Adblock that shit. See how they fucking like it.

    [–]TehMadWolf 8ポイント9ポイント  (3子コメント)

    What about half naked girls with full screen camera....

    [–]_ALLDAY_ 6ポイント7ポイント  (20子コメント)

    AO games exist?

    [–]NappingPlant 26ポイント27ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Hatred is coming out is a few days, so this is in preparation of that.

    [–]blackcoffin90 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Mainly in the form of visual novels, or Japanese indie sex games.

    [–]TheRealRacker 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

    I think it's mostly things like anime sex simulator games and such, nothing mainstream or AAA or whatever like that.

    [–]zmeul[S] 19ポイント20ポイント  (6子コメント)

    • Fahrenheit: Indigo Prophecy

    • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

    [–]caribou_doodoo 27ポイント28ポイント  (2子コメント)

    I bet a lot of people would be streaming Hatred which comes out in a few days. Seems like they put the ban in place just before Hatred's launch.

    [–]TheRealRacker 12ポイント13ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Yeah this is definitely about Hatred. I wonder if it's the first "normal" game to get AO?

    [–]MordecaiWalfish 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    No mention of the rampant cartoon porn and racism present on half of the profile pages on twitch.. it's those damn AO games that probably warped people's minds so much that they would include that kind of stuff in their profile to start with though, right?

    [–]draanexle 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Pathetic.

    But chicks pushing their breasts up in the webcam and have sexual clothing is ok.

    [–]MrArgo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I guess when the warning comes up "This stream is for mature audiences", they do not mean Adult Audiences.

    [–]SpacemanKyle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thank god Custer's Revenge is safe.

    [–]Zubei_ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I still find it hilarious that San Andreas got that AO rating because of a MOD just to have sex, when you haze plenty of other games that have sex from the get go.

    [–]SilkyZSteamID: SilkyZ 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    That's it, going to Hitbox

    [–]taw 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

    Is there some other site like twitch that doesn't have this kind of retarded policies?

    [–]XavierMendeli5 3470 | GTX 970 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Maybe hitbox.tv?

    Edit: Hitbox's policies here. They ban porn but not AO games in general. Hatred would likely be allowed there.

    [–]taw 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Is HuniePop allowed there?

    [–]XavierMendeli5 3470 | GTX 970 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    The sex content isn't allowed, no. The game itself is (I assume the censor patch or whatever would be allowed).

    [–]Waswat 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    So they ban ao games, shirtless guys, but the camgirls are fine? Oh the hypocrisy.

    [–]arare666 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8udZhpXSv2o

    Yet this is perfectly fine. The favoritism and hypocrisy is amazing.

    [–]attackzac21 14ポイント15ポイント  (1子コメント)

    tbf the violence in GTA, even with half naked ladies perpetuating it, is still extremely cartoony by a lot of AO game standards.

    However the fact that you can stream this but not this is so hilariously illogical that the policy might as well be instituted by high functioning dogs.

    [–]Temba_atRest 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    its in reaction the game Hatred which is coming out in a few days

    [–]ModusNex 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Update: AO games are banned. Except for popular ones like GTA and witcher 3.

    [–]Lemurien 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

    GTA V and Witcher 3 are both rated Mature by the ESRB, not AO.

    [–]Schnabeltierchen 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Technically they are rated for adults only in most other countries and these also are being sold normally. So it applies for the US ratings only. I don't really know why there is a distinction between AO and M from ESRB and why AO games mostly won't be sold in stores..

    [–]GILLHUHN 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    But... but... porn simulator...

    [–]manzanapochai5 4430, GTX 760 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

    This is stupid in so many levels.

    [–]JoshTheSquid 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If we're going to make Twitch into Disneyland Live, then what the hell is the point of the "Mature audiences only" option?

    [–]wowy-lied 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    And at the same time steam is accepting more and more adult games.

    [–]Temba_atRest 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    It might be worth noting that there are only 26 games that are rated adult only in the US

    [–]icebear518 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Don't they let you put a tag on your video for adult content?

    [–]Darksoldierr 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Isn't there already an +18 filter before the stream loads if the streamer sets it?