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[–]Ferinex 118ポイント119ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think the biggest fallacy of libertarian thought is that the working class are the ones responsible for taxes on capitalists. In reality of course, the government is controlled by the bourgeoisie and they are responsible for taxing themselves, which they do in order to fund basic social services necessary to keep the working class from being completely useless and eventually revolutionary. It's a lot like blaming the dog when you need to buy it food.

[–]ACABandsoldierstooAnarchist 56ポイント57ポイント  (2子コメント)

propertarian, not libertarian.

[–]RtSPaTY 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

I wasn't aware there was such a wonderful littler term for the "everything is a property right issue" set. As a left libertarian, I'm glad to have something snappy to differentiate myself.

[–]ACABandsoldierstooAnarchist 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sorry but my english is really poor.

What I meant is that right-libertarian doesen't exist. They stolen the word (as Rothbard say) and, in my opinion, we should call them propertarian and taking back our word, which is libertarian and is leftist at all.

About the source of propertaria, I read it in Bookchin's essays.

[–]TakeMyUsernameAgainMarxist-Leninist~Gramsci, Mao, Althusser enthusiast 53ポイント54ポイント  (10子コメント)

This has to be satire.

[–]ZacharyGeorgeNN[S] 42ポイント43ポイント  (6子コメント)

This guy is for real. At least for now. He's just a very confused teenager. Six months ago he was a "communist".

[–]TakeMyUsernameAgainMarxist-Leninist~Gramsci, Mao, Althusser enthusiast 41ポイント42ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol 'communist.' Clearly didn't read too much communist literature.

[–]kirjatoukkacultural marxist 29ポイント30ポイント  (4子コメント)

So why take him seriously?

[–]baudtack 23ポイント24ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm so glad that Facebook et al wasn't really a thing when I was in high school. I'd hate for the stupid shit I said then to follow me around forever.

[–]driveLikeYouStoleItAnarchist 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was not so lucky... sigh

[–]mouthbreether 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because he makes people on the internet feel superior to him.

[–]soup2nuts -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because he's the "youth" everyone always talks about as being the key to change and stuff.

[–]Dragon9770A Something Socialist 21ポイント22ポイント  (0子コメント)

Especially given the polandball avatar.

[–]Isilmo-ElTrotskyist 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

That was my initial impression as well.

[–]ZacharyGeorgeNN[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's not. He actually believes this.

[–]JosefStallion 22ポイント23ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://40.media.tumblr.com/cd885509174d23de7ef13b467777adbf/tumblr_mszoaqznr91sgs0m4o1_500.jpg

This guy literally sounds like a cartoon parody of a privileged rich person

[–]shroom_throwaway9722Kill Capital Before Capital Kills You 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

I never knew Arthur got this political! Damn.

[–]kwhitegocubsUtilitarian Socialist 40ポイント41ポイント  (11子コメント)

Production creates wealth.... therefore we need to respect and not tax those who own the means of producing wealth but (implicitly) the people who operate and produce the actual wealth with said means of production. It's like remedial Marxism 099 except somehow coming to a diametrically opposite conclusion.

Is it me or does no one else understand this dude's leap from "owns means of production" to deserving respect and low tax rates??

[–]singdawg 29ポイント30ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is it me or does no one else understand this dude's leap from "owns means of production" to deserving respect and low tax rates??

fox news

[–]jackrousseauShit Talkin' Anarchist 4ポイント5ポイント  (2子コメント)

If all the wealth goes to the people who own the means of production, why would that person expect the masses to give a shit about increasing wealth anyway?

It's like how today GDP growth in most of the West is totally uncorrelated with getting a raise from your boss. Who gives a shit about GDP? You don't see fuck all from it!

[–]NorthtoYukon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Except there's a direct causation all between standards of living and GDP. More money a country makes, the more money that can be generated for tax revenue and redistributed.

[–]jackrousseauShit Talkin' Anarchist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only the desperately poor get most of their income from the government, and with increasing inequality comes the political desire to slash even that pittance.

[–]NorthtoYukon 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

Economist here: the logic is as follows, the more saving a person has, the more money they have to reinvest into the economy. The more the economy grows and the more jobs that are created. The higher demand for jobs has inflationary pressure on wages and standards of living go up across the whole country. There's a direct correlation with saved wealth and economic growth.

I think that's what he was trying to get across is his stupid rambler or he could just be an idiot

[–]kwhitegocubsUtilitarian Socialist 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

There's a direct correlation between saved wealth and economic growth? Investment is useless without spending/demand to justify the investment in either A) more labor or B) more efficient means/methods of production. Investment waits on the sidelines for demand if possible. Saying investment generates growth (or even "correlates" with growth, assuming that correlation is controlled and independent) is literally putting the cart before the horse.

[–]NorthtoYukon 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

Money that is saved can be A). Used by the person retaining the wealth for investment in his own means of production. B) saved in a bank account, where it allows the bank to make business and private loans to other people coming up who need the capital for their own investments.

As there's more investment in the economy, demand for materials, education, resources, and labour increases. the higher demand on these economic resources drives the price of the resources up.

It's not actually putting the horse in from of the cart. You lift the horse and cart at the same time. Investment does correlate growth in every economic model that's used.

Here's the biggest problem with it for a society's perspective. As technology has increased automation has taken over many of the roles that would be done by workers. Without the increased demand for labour that increased investment and production brings wages could actually fall instead of rise. Then the horse isn't rising with the cart as you say.

Now eventually as automation moves up the wealth generated goes to a very few select individuals who own the means of production. It's the primary reason for the huge wealth gap in many nations right now.

Say we get to a point where we can produce so much and with say only 10 million workers are needed in a world with 8 billion people. That's the direction we are very quickly heading to.

There's a form of economic system being discussed amount academic economists that is trying to answer these questions.

Please please give this article a read: Its how in the future our level of production will be so high and done by so few workers that there has to be a shift from capitalism. It's the best written article for basic income theory I've ever found.

https://medium.com/@RickWebb/the-economics-of-star-trek-29bab88d50

[–]kwhitegocubsUtilitarian Socialist 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'm aware of post-scarcity economic constructs, but that looks interesting. I'd prefer social ownership of the means of production regardless of method of distribution.

That said, I still find your explanation lacking. Demand drives the need for investment. There HAS to be demand, as investment on its own does nothing except for transform capital in some way. Investment without known or (at base) rationally projected increases in demand is faith, and rather irrational. Demand is the horse, investment to meet demand is the cart.

[–]NorthtoYukon 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm sorry I misunderstood what you were saying. When it comes to individual firms then yes there has to be a current demand to invest in growth at the micro level. It would be crazy not too. When you get the the economy as a whole, at the macro level, the increases in production means growth and growth does drive demand.

[–]kwhitegocubsUtilitarian Socialist 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Ahh, okay, two ships passing in the night and so on. Just a misunderstanding :)

[–]NorthtoYukon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

at least both ships are trying to head for the same destination, I think that's what counts here.

[–]DetroitHeroParlour Red 14ポイント15ポイント  (0子コメント)

Mert Bolukbas will be a pundit on Fox News within two weeks. "And now with an update to our new Economic Realities segment, Mr. Mert Bolukbas, University of Phoenix Economitican."

[–]trampabroadMarxism-Lennonism 63ポイント64ポイント  (16子コメント)

When Reaganites meet tumblr...

[–]sgtpeppers508Anarcho-Collectivist 40ポイント41ポイント  (15子コメント)

I definitely get what you're saying, but I wouldn't so quick to dismiss tumblr as an "lol everyone gets offended" kind of place. It has a lot (and i mean a LOT) of problems but most of them are more to do with TWEFs and neo-nazis than people getting too easily offended. In fact those "SJWs" that reddit loves to burn an effigy of can in fact become excellent comrades with some education.

edit: formatting

[–]rocktheprovinceMarxist 33ポイント34ポイント  (14子コメント)

Reddit loves to creep on tumblr because the majority of what they pull are just young girls trying to develop their world outlook on their personal blog for the first time. So a) they're easy to make fun of and b) reddit has a lot of creepers and sexual predators.

[–]Lolita_Humbert 25ポイント26ポイント  (13子コメント)

Plus it's got a hint of some lovely misogyny. Try to find somebody making fun of a tumblr post/user without them or somebody else somehow dropping "she" or "her" in the discussion.

[–]zeabuSchool of Bakunin. 1ポイント2ポイント  (7子コメント)

people can be very stupid. women are people too. not every mockery against a person is because they're female.

[–]Lolita_Humbert 10ポイント11ポイント  (6子コメント)

...but it's still a very clear sign of prejudice to presume all stupid people from a website that has millions of users is a woman or a girl. As a person who has been active on tumblr, there are some really fucking stupid people there, but they're equal parts men and women. It's a politically active place, so of course there's going to be political idiots there too. But the fact that /r/tumblrinaction and places like that are filled with people who either are women or presumed to be so is very, very clearly misogyny. Plus, most of the mocked people are, even worse, young people who are just forming their world views. If every person's idiotic political opinions from when they were 14 or 17 or 19 or whatever were showcased, don't you think it'd be equal parts men and women?

[–]hithazel 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

The slur agains tumblr users is literally the female-gendered tumblrina.

[–]zeabuSchool of Bakunin. -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

don't you think it'd be equal parts men and women?

sure, I wasn't arguing that. I read your comment as dismissing any mockery when it contains "she" and/or "her". anyway, I'm ignorant about tumbler, never took a look at it.

[–]Lolita_Humbert 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

Tumblr is a "microblogging" website, and it's known for being very very socially and politically active. Those "social justice warrior" stereotypes come mostly from people that are presumed to be there and to be a large part of the website (they are not). Reddit (and others) mock these bloggers and clearly in a way that's targeted at the women and feminists there. It pisses me off, and I thought you were a part of this group of anti-feminists. Excuse me.

[–]zeabuSchool of Bakunin. -3ポイント-2ポイント  (2子コメント)

I thought you were a part of this group of anti-feminists. Excuse me.

I'm anarchist. for me there's only smart people and stupid people on one axis, or empathic and egoists on another axis. things like gender, ethnicity, etc. mean little to me.

[–]Lolita_Humbert 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

You're an anarchist so you place value on certain characteristics that people have? Gender and ethinicity etc. are very important things in peoples' lives that directly affect their daily lives and identities. Plus doesn't anarchism as a concept include the absence of arbitrary value-based systems? Also the term "stupid" is determined by cultural expectations of people's behaviour, doesn't anarchism uproot the cultures that define the word and thus make it irrelevant?

[–]trampabroadMarxism-Lennonism -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

/u/rocktheprovince mentions reddit creepers, /u/Lolita_Humbert responds. Username checks out?

[–]rocktheprovinceMarxist -1ポイント0ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't really know what a lolita is. I thought it was a japanese fashion trend or something.

[–]trampabroadMarxism-Lennonism -4ポイント-3ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're missing out, because Lolita is a-maze-ing.

[–]sgtpeppers508Anarcho-Collectivist 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

God i hope you mean the book. And I hope you actually understood the book.

[–]trampabroadMarxism-Lennonism -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just gonna let you wonder.

[–]s1gmoidreformist communist 6ポイント7ポイント  (2子コメント)

Suggestions for liberals about other {whatever}isms they need to stop:

  • Racismism (discrimination against racists)
  • Homophobism (discrimination against homophobes)
  • Rapism (discrimination against rapists)
  • Corruptionism (I guess you get the gist of it)
  • Murderism
  • etc.

[–]trampabroadMarxism-Lennonism -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wouldn't rapism be the ideology of a rapist?

[–]s1gmoidreformist communist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rapist-ism? :D

[–]comicgeek1128 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

looks like someone has a rich daddy.

[–]ZacharyGeorgeNN[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's more of a lumpenprole.

[–]jewish-mel-gibsonGuevarist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lumpenprole is more about what a person does as well as what they don't think, opposed to what they do think.

[–]blackmage1582 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Part of me refuses to believe this isn't a troll. But another part of me knows that some people genuinely believe things like this, regardless of whether this particular soul does or not.

[–]skaalgard 10ポイント11ポイント  (4子コメント)

We need to stop "crimeism!" Too many people are discriminated against for crimes they've committed!

[–]2015goodyear 29ポイント30ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think this is often true though lol.

[–]skaalgard 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

I should have said "for crimes they are currently committing" :P

[–]jackrousseauShit Talkin' Anarchist 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

But only certain crimes. The powers that be are happy to define a whole lot of activity as "crime" that doesn't hurt anyone or is undertaken out of desperation. Meanwhile, they are happy to define "looting the pensions of millions in a Wall Street orgy of fraud" as "not-crime".

[–]skaalgard 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is also true. I was referring mostly to the crimes the rich commit.

[–]bugsy187 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Butthurt"

The OP should consider who the audience of /r/socialism is when choosing adjectives.

[–]kirjatoukkacultural marxist 40ポイント41ポイント  (38子コメント)

Butthurt

can you not

[–]zorreXInternational Socialist Organization 4ポイント5ポイント  (37子コメント)

[–]armedrobbery 29ポイント30ポイント  (24子コメント)

Depending how you see it, calling somebody "buthurt" is either a joke about rape or it's implying that they're gay to make fun of them. Either one is pretty childish.

I get that it's a meme but just because something's part of culture doesn't mean we can't call it out as shitty.

[–]thisusernamerules 28ポイント29ポイント  (19子コメント)

I'm all for ditching words that are rude, but my understanding was that butthurt was referring to being spanked in a disciplinary sense. Happy to ditch it, but I never associated it (I could be flat out wrong here) with homosexuality or rape.

*Online culture kinda would suggest that it was about rape, wouldn't it?

[–]zorreXInternational Socialist Organization 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

*Online culture kinda would suggest that it was about rape, wouldn't it?

I believe this is why it has been popularized online so much, but I think a proper understanding of history is always important. I have no opinion either way on the word. I don't use it because people associate it in other contexts. Much like people don't use the word "niggardly" anymore: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_about_the_word_%22niggardly%22

[–]thisusernamerules 6ポイント7ポイント  (8子コメント)

History of the words isn't really my game, but not offending people based on their contemporary meaning is!

[–]jewish-mel-gibsonGuevarist 2ポイント3ポイント  (7子コメント)

I think history of words is super important. How else do you explain to white people why they can't use the N word just because they hear their black peers use it endearingly?

[–]thisusernamerules 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

By explaining what racism and discrimination are ; I don't believe that the word itself caused the conditions which make it offensive, and is more of a symptom of a racist system.

But I agree with you, explaining the history of that word would be a great way to bring the point across.

I'm not saying that etymology is worthless - just that it isn't my particular cup of tea.

[–]jewish-mel-gibsonGuevarist 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah but if white people grow up hearing the word used by blacks in a positive context, they wouldn't be using it in a racist and discriminatory context and those explanations are 100% useless.

Whether or not you like it, etymology is absolutely necessary in the discussion and like a lot of other things, the conversation does not necessarily revolve around "feelings".

Our argument is not that it's "not fair" is not very compelling. Its about the logical, internal contradictions of capitalism.

[–]thisusernamerules 1ポイント2ポイント  (4子コメント)

I don't understand your point. I wasn't talking about feelings. I find the structural and systemic racism to be more of a problem than the history of the word which arose as a symptom of those systems of racism and discrimination.

I don't use these words, and am not defending using them or whatever - I just don't understand your distinction here.

[–]rocktheprovinceMarxist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Etymologically the two words are unrelated.

When and where this was actually popular terminology, I'm curious as to whether or not anyone knew that.

[–]HoneyDThis is my final form! -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol don't be niggardly with the word niggardly

[–]RebeccaNobodyFormer U.S. Libertarian 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm all for ditching words that are rude, but my understanding was that butthurt was referring to being spanked in a disciplinary sense.

That doesn't make it better.

[–]thisusernamerules 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

Did you even read the rest of what I said there, or did you stop mid-sentence as soon as you could be a contrarian?

[–]RebeccaNobodyFormer U.S. Libertarian 0ポイント1ポイント  (4子コメント)

You not associating it with homosexuality or rape is a separate issue from you associating it with spanking. Neither association is okay.

[–]thisusernamerules 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Did I say that either one was ok?

[–]RebeccaNobodyFormer U.S. Libertarian 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Ah, good point. I inferred it, but you gave no actual indication you supported either one. My mistake.

[–]thisusernamerules 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not a problem at all, just wanted to clear that up :)

[–]Shiranaru 5ポイント6ポイント  (2子コメント)

according to the KYM link, it refers to being spanked.

[–]kirjatoukkacultural marxist -5ポイント-4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh well, I'm sure KYM is trustworthy and unbiased.

[–]klarken1 8ポイント9ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're fairly good at sourcing memes. It's literally what they're about.

[–]Cranberryoftheorient~Syndicalist/Undecided 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

I always thought it was related to butt-clenching, and the idea is that someone who is angry and pretentious would clench their butt out of anger, causing pain.

[–]myxopyxocommunalist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

They are the ones who owns our production matters [...] stop with your stupi explotation Theories they are not true (sic)

[–]alcaeus1 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

How about this instead: We get rid of all the rich people and expropriate their wealth and propery to the poorest.

[–]NorthtoYukon -2ポイント-1ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why would you do that? As stupid as the wealth gap is right now you do need people with large savings to fund investments and create new business to grow the economy. Poor people have a larger MPS and very little MPS. Savings generates growth which raises economic growth, which (tax rates assumed unchanged) means more to tax and higher tax revenue to redistribute for social programs.

If you cut the head off now you'd have a couple great years of equality and then things would collapse and leave the economy and everyone much worse off.

There has to be a compromise??

[–]shroom_throwaway9722Kill Capital Before Capital Kills You 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

you do need people with large savings to fund investments and create new business to grow the economy

Why is money necessary for this? Why is capitalist business a good thing?

I think you're in the wrong place.

[–]NoGovernmentIsPerfecThe Popular Front is a lie 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Reverse classism!

[–]soup2nuts 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's so close to something. Production creates wealth, yes, to a degree. But those who own the means of production still don't actual create wealth. Those who labor with the tools owned by the bourgeois actually create the wealth. I feel like it would take just a little nudge to get him over to the other side.

[–]NorthtoYukon 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most of the labour is done by machines though now

[–]likedividingbyzero 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Calling troll on this one. Come the fuck on.

[–]pt2091 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

For a second I thought this was the ELS subreddit

[–]UpholderOfThoughtsDemocratic Market Ancom Humanist 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think we're mostly helping a confused child/young person internet bully another confused child/young person.

[–]HochDasGlas 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Biggest joke since 'Misandry' and 'Anti-English Racism' xD

[–]Adil3tr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

are you sure this isn't satire?

[–]Divine2012 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wealthism? Oh good grief.

[–]SirCharlesVof Earth 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

Wealth grows exponentially. The rich get richer by not doing anything. Tax capital gains 39%

[–]NorthtoYukon 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

There should be a minimum tax rate, below that deductions and loop holes stop, you should have to pay at least 30% of the capital gains and no lower.

The rich have lots of accountants to get out of high tax rates. My parents who've saved a little bit each month to save for retirement don't. They're end up paying more capital gains tax, on money they've worked at saving for 40 years. That doesn't sound fair.

What about no tax for capital gains but it has to be counted for income tax and have a flat minimum tax rate for people who are rich?

[–]SirCharlesVof Earth 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's not as simply has "closing loopholes" & reordering capital gains as income tax. & a flat tax would disproportionately hurt middle class retirement accounts.

No his has to do with tighter regulation across the financial board.

[–]NorthtoYukon 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

I was trying to argue for closing loopholes and leaving the tax rate as is. Or maybe we have no capital gains tax on the first 100,000 and a flat rate above that?

Financial regulation is already doing a good job here in Canada.

[–]SirCharlesVof Earth 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

scoff This Canadian is gloating that his state effective regulates finance. America is being out done by maple farmers!

Edit: OK with the added detail yes, no cg until 100G but progressively higher cg as income increases.

[–]TheNextHexWannabe Che 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He's dumb Very dumb Let's continue to call him dumb

[–]warszawianka-01Syndicalism 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

it is not money that creates wealth, it is production

I mean, yeah. Shouldn't that make you some sort of socialist then?

[–]TheIronsideEuropean Socialist 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeh guys this wealthism has gone too far now, I think we should all calm down and take a deep breath. We should be celebrating those born into money.

[–]guileus -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

It's actually a pretty funny ironic outcome of the postmodern obsession with identitarian tantrums over hurt feelings (ie. Stop orientalism, stop weightism, stop telling me my otherkin friends aren't real).

[–]ajrhugThe snogg 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

stop telling me my otherkin friends aren't real

fuck off back to TiA

[–]cfrey -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I says it was edited? To fix grammar and spelling? I would hate to see how it read before the edit.

Anyway, Libert-Aryans who think the rich can do no wrong can all sod off. With hurt butts.

[–]__k__e__l__s__i__ -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

I read librarian and immediately wanted to know where they worked so I could avoid that have of the hemisphere. But this is much worse.

[–]mayonnnnaisein denial 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doesn't this amount to sharing personal information? Also, I can't take anyone who posts with a (country)ball seriously, I just assume they are full of satire or sarcasm.

[–]zardwiz 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

explotation

[–]auzril 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh my god he is Turkish. As a Socialist who lives in Turkey i can say that we have lots of idiot libertarian just like this.

[–]shroom_throwaway9722Kill Capital Before Capital Kills You 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

He argues correctly that production, not capital, creates wealth but then totally goes off the rails. What bizarre political beliefs!

[–]UpholderOfThoughtsDemocratic Market Ancom Humanist 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

"butthurt"? Can you not?

[–]SaintOdhran -1ポイント0ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm honestly impressed he can type that well while sucking so much corporate dick, so there's that.

[–]redrobinUmmmFuckuAll Hail the Anti-Sanders 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

Let's not sex shame please thanks

[–]environmentalent 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

No one is shaming anyone except the incredibly obvious troll. Whining about language only minimally relevant to the context isn't helping anyone.

[–]TheRoyalDutchofDukes -3ポイント-2ポイント  (1子コメント)

How the fuck is one of the top rated comments in this thread some shithead wrongly complaining about the use of "butthurt"?

[–]UpholderOfThoughtsDemocratic Market Ancom Humanist -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

how does one rightly complain about the use of "butthurt"? please explain your post i don't get it