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Vote inside on public access to /r/conspiracy moderation logs. (self.conspiracy)

Flytape が 投稿 - stickied post

There are three distinguished comments down below. You must comment to vote. Regular karma votes will not be considered.

One for the mods to vote yes or no in.

One for the community to comment in IF they vote YES for public mod logs (comment should read in the affirmative "YES I want public mod logs!")

And lastly one for the community to comment in IF they vote NO for public mod logs (comment should read in the negative "No I don't want public mod logs!")

SPECIAL NOTE TO ADMINS: I'm not asking for reddit votes as in karma, I'm asking for democratic process from the community here. Do not ban me for asking for votes. As clearly stated above I'm defining a vote as a comment in favor of or against making a this change to our community. Thus I'm not asking for karma-votes and I am not in violation of the rules. Thanks in advance for your understanding.

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[–]Flytape[S,M] 20ポイント21ポイント  (54子コメント)

YES YOU WANT THEM!

EVERYONE ELSE

Comment here (to vote) YES you want public mod logs!

[–]Ziroshi 5ポイント6ポイント  (4子コメント)

Why wouldn't we want public mod logs o.o

[–]Flytape[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (3子コメント)

They could be used to manufacture drama. I'm confident we can overcome that.

[–]Ziroshi 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, I can see that happening

Although i do agree that we can overcome it.

[–]hack_jealousy 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

We we even notice more drama?

[–]DukeLeto2 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

vote yes to public mod logs.

[–]cali2kazan 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes please.

[–]MistrCreazil 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Shouldn't be any way but.

[–]YouAreTheResistance 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I vote for public mod logs

[–]Balthanos 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes I want public mod logs.

[–]Eskimoman567 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes we want the logs public

[–]Here4thaSh0w 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES I want public mod logs!

[–]AggregateTurtle 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

I Vote yes to public mod logs!

[–]SummerSoldier 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES I want public mod logs!

[–]Oak_Con_Cry 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes on public mod logs.

[–]Mumberthrax 2ポイント3ポイント  (4子コメント)

YES I want public mod logs!

(full disclosure: I operate /u/publicmodlogs, so my biased vote may not count. :P )

[–]Flytape[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sorting features would be nice.

You'll see what I mean now that a big sub is signing up.

[–]Mumberthrax 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

Good news then, because there is the ability to view the rss/json data filtered by anything you can normally filter by in the moderation log page. It isn't yet baked into the github site, but its open source so if anyone who knows javascript wants to, they could probably slap together a fix, make a pull request and I'd merge it, or fork it and run their own frontend.

For example, this is /r/morrowind's plain-jane moderation log RSS feed: http://www.reddit.com/r/morrowind/about/log/.rss?feed=c7b83b457469643f1912d5fee30e18dba808f351&user=publicmodlogs

and this is only the removed posts: http://www.reddit.com/r/morrowind/about/log/.rss?type=removelink&feed=c7b83b457469643f1912d5fee30e18dba808f351&user=publicmodlogs

[–]Flytape[S] 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Grandma wants it baked into the github site.

[–]Dnars 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES

[–]maxt0r 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES I want public mod logs!

[–]Don117 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes to public mods

[–]moonpurr 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes I want public mod logs.

[–]KafkaesqueNightmare 0ポイント1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yes of course! Did you ever ask the mods about my inquiry regarding public mod votes??

[–]Flytape[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes that why we are doing our mod vote on this in the public.

[–]KafkaesqueNightmare 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good stuff there, Flytape! I really do appreciate it and I know that other members of the community feel the same! Make sure to send my best regards to the mods! I just hope we can maintain this trend; who knows, it might have site-wide ramifications if we can keep this up!

Edit: ALSO: I just realized that by stepping into the light, opening up to transparency, the mods of this community are directly standing against Chairman Pao's idea of Reddit not being a platform of free speech! That is phenomenal and deserves some praise in and of itself. Good luck on your future endeavors towards transparency, free speech, and freedom of information!

[–]BloodWillow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, please.

[–]TrustyTapir 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES.

[–]Ifco 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes to public modlogs.

[–]Rhabdomere 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES

[–]shadowofashadow 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes

[–]TheProdigalKn1ght 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes I want public mod logs.

[–]redshield3 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes

[–]nolesforever 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES, I want public mod logs.

[–]zyklorpthehuman 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes

[–]gbramaginn 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. Si. Oui. Ja. Sim. Hai. Shi. Da.

[–]brofidential 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Full transparency.

[–]BoringOral 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes please

[–]ben_chapleski 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes I want public mod logs.

[–]TheOneAndTheOnly774 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes

[–]llamasity 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES

[–]IHaveFiveOfBroats 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES, I vote for public mod logs.

[–]richard_m_lurkmoar2 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes

[–]Oop584 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

yes, I agree

[–]WorldAStage 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes

[–]FranktheShank1 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, i would like public mod logs

[–]lastyegg 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes

[–]Canadian_POG 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aye, to the public with the logs!

[–]Inyowindow 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes

[–]SuperBlooper057 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes.

[–]InternetPropagandist [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes on public mod logs.

[–]hack_jealousy 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they are anything like Lincoln logs, I'm in!

[–]HaltNWO -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

There's no down side.

[–]Flytape[S,M] 1ポイント2ポイント  (5子コメント)

MODS ONLY

State your vote here in comment form, do you want public mod logs for /conspiracy?

[–]AssuredlyAThrowAway 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep 100%, and I want to ensure that admin removals are also populated in the logs :)

[–]Flytape[S] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

I vote for public mod logs.

[–]Ambiguously_Ironic 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Sure, +1.

[–]Orangutan 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes. Anything to prevent more of this.

[–]axolotl_peyotl 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Absarootry.

[–]Suck_a_gerbils_dick [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes to mod logs all day

[–]IntrinsicThought [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes yes yes!!! Public modlist for the people, its the only way

[–]txstoploss [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yes on public mod logs.

[–]mr_dong -2ポイント-1ポイント  (11子コメント)

I'm honestly on the fence with this one. The last thing we should be creating is more distraction from the nature of the sub, moderator transparency is a nice idea but the reality is that other ways of communicating are available to reddit users anyway.

I would suggest that if the crowd and other moderators want access to the logs then we should link to them in the sidebar. Personally i don't see it being helpful to the page to make a song and dance about moderator discussions week in week out. Besides, i don't want people stealing my pie recipes.

[–]thefuckingtoe -2ポイント-1ポイント  (9子コメント)

The last thing we should be creating is more distraction from the nature of the sub

You did notice who posted this right?

[–]mr_dong -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

Crowd decides, i don't think it's a particularly useful idea but if readers want it we will link to the mod talks in the sidebar.

[–]thefuckingtoe -2ポイント-1ポイント  (6子コメント)

i don't think it's a particularly useful idea

You did notice who posted this right?

[–]mr_dong 0ポイント1ポイント  (5子コメント)

The main idea it just to show that the mods here have nothing to hide. As long as the idea remains background i really don't have a problem with it.

[–]thefuckingtoe -1ポイント0ポイント  (4子コメント)

The main idea it just to show that the mods here have nothing to hide.

When axolotl answers who the fake David Chandler was he touted on the fake Richard Gage AMA, then I'll know they have nothing to hide.

When you or another mod shares the voting on reinstatement of flytape, the I'll know they have nothing to hide.

Below is a list of nefarious mod actions. Clear that mess up and we can have a conversation about mods not having anything to hide.

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/snew/comments/36wdrv/hi_snew_i_am_flytape_ask_me_anything/crht2h8

Edit: this is not meant as an attack. it is meant to clear the stagnant air around these parts.

[–]axolotl_peyotl 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

thefuckingtoe

[–]mr_dong 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

When axolotl answers who the fake David Chandler was he touted on the fake Richard Gage AMA, then I'll know they have nothing to hide.

He made a mistake, his posting history is second to non regardless.

When you or another mod shares the voting on reinstatement of flytape, the I'll know they have nothing to hide.

Flytape is on a final warning and he understands it. The moderators wanted him back in and that was dealt with in house. 

Below is a list of nefarious mod actions. Clear that mess up and we can have a conversation about mods not having anything to hide.

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/snew/comments/36wdrv/hi_snew_i_am_flytape_ask_me_anything/crht

This is exactly what we want to move away from. The page should be about conspiracy, not the moderators.

[–]thefuckingtoe -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

When axolotl answers who the fake David Chandler was he touted on the fake Richard Gage AMA, then I'll know they have nothing to hide.

He made a mistake

He won't address who the fake David Chandler was. I personally questioned him as to the merits of the fake Richard Gage and axolotl made one of the worst rebuts I've ever seen on this sub, as it concerns the truth movement.

Mods who don't know anything about 9.11 truth should not defend incorrect statements made by 911 debunkers.

Flytape is on a final warning

Cats don't have as many lives as 'the saudis did 911' flytape.

http://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/36vs66/why_mod_transparency_is_necessary_how_not_to/crhipo4

This is exactly what we want to move away from

I want to move away from people harming the 911 truth movement on reddit.com. I can't get one mod of /r/conspiracy to say that 3 towers were brought down by controlled demolition on 9.11.01. That's beyond strange.

Another mod in /r/conspiracy has little to no knowledge of 91101 but put on a fake AMA and tried to bring down 2 of the biggest advocates for 911 truth in one fake AMA.

http://www.np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/36x2fx/alleged_op_of_the_qatarcoke_post_speaks_up_in/criejpi

Again, let's clean house and open up an honest dialogue. Not meant as attack on mods of /r/conspiracy

[–]Mumberthrax -2ポイント-1ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you'd like, you can also make modmail available publicly through /u/publicmodlogs, but I am not sure if I would recommend it.

[–]Flytape[S,M] 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

NO YOU DON'T WANT THEM!

EVERYONE ELSE

Comment here (to vote) No I don't want public mod logs!

[–]oldguynewname [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I don't see how anyone can find anything within the mod logs important enough that they need to see them. Is the reddit mod logs important enough for your daily life you would give up that time to read them?

Reddit is becoming far to goddamn important to you if so. Go ahead and down vote me because you don't agree because you can't say this comment isn't important to the discussion.

Get outside people become active within your community and make a change for the better. Start a movement with others. See someone's face and speak with them about your views or concerns.

Don't think that just cause you get to see the mod logs you will have a realization. Or something else that isn't really important enough to influence anything.

I vote no keep that shit for you as mods to read and deal with all this site is for would be entertainment less I have to sift thru the better.

Keep up the good work in giving the others a voice thou /u/flytape

[–]zyklorpthehuman -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yes I want public mod logs!

[–]TheProdigalKn1ght -2ポイント-1ポイント  (2子コメント)

Are you dyslexic?

[–]zyklorpthehuman 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nope, just bad at following directions.

[–]JoemeatballsSC2 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES I want public mod logs!

[–]madmaxsin 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, on public mod logs, of course.

[–]lynxtheclown 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

YES WE WANT THEM and I'd like to be a mod :)

[–]jm70591 -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well yeah