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[Other] My boyfriend's doctors recommended a modified paleo diet and he is doing amazing while I feel hungry, tired, and sick all the time. (self.Paleo)

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Also, we're spending so much money on food!

We live together and he makes all the food, even if he didn't, we can't really afford to have two different diets.

Mostly what we eat are combinations of eggs, meat, beans, cabbage, and anything pickled. Since it's not completely paleo, we also eat corn and brown rice, but not much. Also lots of nuts.

I'm either starving and spacey/tired or my stomach hurts like I swallowed a stone. He feels so much energy, is losing weight, but I feel so sad. I'm typically the one with all the energy, but I have been struggling to get out of bed and stay out every day. Also, my skin feels horrible. I moisturize like crazy but I'm itchy and I've got zits, two things that seem like they shouldn't be happening in concert.

I'm going to the doctor today (same doctor) so I'm hoping she can tell me what's up, but have you guys heard of anything like this before?

It's like we've completely flipped. I used to be able to go long periods without eating and feel pretty fine, but now he's the one who won't eat all day, which means he won't make anything all day so I'm just eating nuts and peanut-butter and pickles for most of my meals because I am so hungry.

Edit: A lot of you guys said I was probably low on calories, and I just weighed myself. Apparently I lost 6 pounds in the last 2 weeks. That pretty much proves it to me. No wonder I'm such a mess!

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[–]arrant_pedantry 28ポイント29ポイント  (25子コメント)

I'm just eating nuts and peanut-butter and pickles for most of my meals because I am so hungry.

Could you be suffering from a very simple lack of calories? I get exhausted and spacey if I'm hungry, and it often happens long before I feel any sensation in my stomach. Have you tried upping your calories and carbohydrates, and really making an effort to eat three actual meals every day? It's very easy to accidentally undereat on Paleo.

[–]Marinaisgo[S] 5ポイント6ポイント  (24子コメント)

I thought this might be part of it, and it might still. Last week I scheduled meals in my calendar and invited him to them, which he agreed. So now I have a meal schedule, but it's not been the good solution I wanted because it will be meal time, but he's not making food, but he's about to, so I eat a pickle or something, and before I know it it's the next meal time, and he's still "about to" make food. So I eat some nuts. Then he finally makes food, so I eat that too, even though it's not meal time, so then the next meal time I eat some sauerkraut or rice cake with peanut butter.

Maybe I should start writing down what I'm actually eating.

[–]cabritadorada 25ポイント26ポイント  (18子コメント)

I think you're describing a relationship problem as much as a diet problem--he's controlling all the meals and the schedule, no potatoes in the house because he can't eat them...and what you're actually eating is not balanced from the sound of it. I would not be surprised if half of your calories are coming from nuts.

I think you need to bring back potatoes and some fruit and make a concerted effort to eat balanced meals rather than filling up on nuts when you feel pangs of hunger. Maybe you guys can alternate who cooks too?

[–]Marinaisgo[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (17子コメント)

We also don't buy potatoes because I can't cook. Which is another issue. It used to be that I could just put peanutbutter or cheese on bread with some fruit when he didn't feel like cooking, but now all our food is raw meat and other things that have to be prepared.

And the reason we don't have bread and fruit is because of me. Primarily because we're on a strict budget (my idea), and I don't want to buy bread or crackers or fruit anymore because we're already spending a ton of money on meat and sauerkraut, but also because I thought we were supposed to be healthier without them. I'm a victim of my own cheapness and laziness more than anything.

Also, it's really hard to think about this stuff now that I'm hungry all the time. We have a budget meeting today, so I'm going to talk about this.

[–]kellydoll 22ポイント23ポイント  (14子コメント)

It sounds like learning to cook would be the best solution... It's really not hard (coming from someone who also couldn't cook). Especially with paleo, if you just season up some chicken and throw it in the pan, all you have to do is make sure it isn't pink in the middle when it's done. Then throw frozen broccoli in a pot and boil for 5 minutes. And potatoes you can either chop up and fry or peel and boil.

So it's not that you can't cook, it's that you won't. It's a valuable life skill so why not start now? And then when your man finally does get hungry enough to eat he can just warm up the leftovers.

[–]Wormhole-Eyes 7ポイント8ポイント  (1子コメント)

How to cook a potato!

Step one: rinse the potato

Step two: without drying the potato, wrap it in a paper towel

Step three: microwave for 5 minutes

Then just eat it with butter or olive oil or something. This also works for sweet potatoes.

Also, you should get a crock pot, the instructions are even easier

Strp one: throw a bunch of food in the pot with water and salt, then turn it on low

Step two: go away

Step three: come back

Cooking is easy and fun!

[–]shellica 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't you need to poke the potato with a fork first before popping it in a microwave?

Otherwise, yes, microwaved potatoes (of all varieties) have saved my lazy self from starvation many times... and I even know how to cook when I want to.

[–]arrant_pedantry 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

Maybe I should start writing down what I'm actually eating.

This is a very good idea. Better yet, plug it into cronometer or something to see how many calories you're getting per day; it might be way too little.

Upthread it sounded like you're feeling kind of confused and overwhelmed by all the nutrition stuff; it is a lot to digest (lol) all at once so don't feel bad. Here's what I would focus on if I were you:

  • Plugging my meals into cronometer to make sure I got enough calories every day (you said you checked your TDEE and it was 2900; no way in hell are you getting that from peanut butter and pickles unless you're eating an entire jar of peanut butter every day).

  • Eating real meals 3x/day. Even if you don't cook, can you make hard-boiled eggs? Can you buy a rotisserie chicken and eat that over salad greens for a few days? I can't imagine someone so bad at cooking that they can't put salad in a bowl and cut up pre-cooked chicken on top of it. Can you ask your boyfriend to make big batches of stuff like chili, and then you can eat leftovers when he doesn't feel like cooking?

[–]Marinaisgo[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes to all these things. That's our plan going forward.

[–]Sindja 3ポイント4ポイント  (2子コメント)

What about leafy greens? Salads, etc? There's a lot of nutrients to be had there that could, potentially, help you feel better.

[–]Marinaisgo[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've always had trouble digesting leafy greens, so I don't really eat them. I'm going to being back cucumber, bell pepper, tomatoes and avocados. I stopped buying those because they cost too much.

[–]DragonflyRider 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

Obviously they don't cost too much considering the cost of not buying them verdad? Quit being cheap. Learn to cook some basic meals that you can pound out quickly and cheaply for yourself. Grow a little!

[–]StoneTiger40 17ポイント18ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would get on My Fitness Pal if I were you and start tracking your eating.

It sounds like possibly two things. You're either malnourished and not eating enough or you could be having a sugar crash by eliminating the sugar in your diet.

[–]ItWorkedLastTime 8ポイント9ポイント  (8子コメント)

How's your fat intake? Your body needs time to adjust if you are cutting out carbs, and getting your energy from fat instead.

I'd suggest taking a look at /r/keto and reading their sidebar and FAQ.

[–]Marinaisgo[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (7子コメント)

I'm not sure how to calculate that. I guess we don't eat much more fat than we did before we went on the diet. Is that bad? It's probably bad.

[–]ItWorkedLastTime 1ポイント2ポイント  (6子コメント)

Pay attention to food labels and weigh your food. When you say you are munching on nuts, do you know how many calories you are consuming? Figure out your TDEE and make sure you are eating based on your energy expenditure.

When I was losing weight, and dropping 2 pounds a week, i was eating around 1200 a day. For a 5"11', 240lb guys (my heaviest) that was way too little. I was always tired and cranky.

[–]Marinaisgo[S] -2ポイント-1ポイント  (5子コメント)

That thing says I burn 3600 calories a day. That seems like a lot.

Edit: I accidentally made myself 100 lbs heavier than I actually am. I'm actually burning 2900, which makes way more sense.

[–]benpatient 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

I accidentally made myself 100 lbs heavier than I actually am.

Well that escalated quickly....

[–]ItWorkedLastTime 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

2900 is a lot of food. You'd have to eat a lot of nuts and cabbage to come close.

[–]Marinaisgo[S] -1ポイント0ポイント  (1子コメント)

Man, I don't know anything about this stuff. Who knew eating was so complicated!

[–]ItWorkedLastTime 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's actually not that hard, once you start paying attention. I don't watch my calories, or my macros anymore. But, I can tell you exactly why I am not losing weight, or why I have little energy. Knowing that a light beer is about 100 calories, or 1oz of hard liquor is 60 calories helps a lot.

Just read labels, weight your food, and before you know it will become 2nd nature.

[–]rhythmicbreathing 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't want to add to all of the advice youre getting here, so I'll give you some microwaveable recipes:

One sweet potato in microwave for five minutes + two tablespoons of coconut butter = sweet, fatty heaven with lots of energy

Two beaten eggs + cupful of pumpkin + pumpkin pie spice + maple syrup + microwave for 6 and a half minutes = pumpkin souffle

Go buy some fruit

Cut out all corn

Stop eating peanut butter and eat almonds instead; peanut butter is inflammatory

[–][deleted] 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you are just eating peanut butter and pickles you aren't eating paleo. Why don't you make your own meals or eat some leftovers? This is a confusing post.

[–]ODB247 4ポイント5ポイント  (9子コメント)

Are you eating anything now that you weren't eating before? What did you cut out?

[–]Marinaisgo[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (8子コメント)

Not really. We're eating lots and lots more of stuff we already ate, like cabbage, nuts, pickles and corn.

We cut out most of our sugar (we only use a tablespoon in our coffee 1-2 times a day), fruit, bread, and potatoes.

I'm still eating yogurt and cheese.

I've noticed that when I eat white potatoes now, I feel amazing. They're the only thing that can cure my near-constant nausea and wake me up, but we don't have any in the house because he can't eat them and he loved them.

[–]ODB247 14ポイント15ポイント  (4子コメント)

So eat potatoes(commence down voting!!). He should be able to handle having them in the house. I'm not a doctor so what I say is not medical advice. Maybe you need more variety of foods or more veggies or maybe your body just likes starches and sugars like fruit. Maybe you need to back off and gradually ease into paleo. Life is too short, if it doesn't feel good then don't do it. Sure, you could give it time and play with your diet. You could try an elimination diet to see what is causing you trouble. It took me a few attempts at paleo before I figured out what worked for me. The first few times I was horribly constipated but had never had that before and didn't know what that felt like. I just felt nauseated and bloated and sick all the time. Idk if that's what is going on with you. Some people thrive on paleo, some do not. If your symptoms get worse or don't go away with diet changes then you should see a doctor. Are you a chick? Are you pregnant?

[–]Marinaisgo[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

I have been having difficult poops for the first time since I was anorexic in middle school. I think the answer is going to be to bring the stuff I 1. can eat and 2. seem to be happy eating back into my diet and he can stay with his stuff. We'll try to meet in the middle.

I'm not pregnant. We use two forms of birth control, and I have a broken uterus.

[–]ODB247 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry about the broken uterus thing, I wasn't trying to pry. I just remember being nauseated for weeks on end was how I figured out I was pregnant.

You guys don't have to have separate meals unless you want to. Good job being supportive but don't do it so hardcore if it's making you sick. The constipation thing was awful for me and I kept reading paleo advice to eat more fiber or adjust my gut bacteria with probiotics and fermented foods or give it more time. None of that worked for me. I kind of found a happy medium by eating mostly paleo. I added rice and some potatoes and lots of fruit. I like eating paleo but can't be strict because it feels bad. Good luck, and listen to your body. It really will tell you what it wants.

[–]Marinaisgo[S] 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks. I'm not bummed or shy about my uterus. I do wish I didn't have the pain associated with it, but that's mostly gone thanks to my good friend birth control.

I think I'm going to do something like what you do. It's clear that this isn't working for me like it has for him. He was sick all the time before we switched. I was completely healthy.

So now that we've fixed him, it's time for me to get back on track.

[–]sixtrees 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Part of the problem is the nuts, limit yourself to something like 1/4 cup a day.

[–]sheilastretch 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was on a very strict paleo diet for a few weeks while I was trying to work out if I was sensitive to certain foods. Turns out I have a histamine problem, and I've been suffering from a lot of weird symptoms including nausea. Turns out things like pickles, peanuts, and a bunch of other things allowed on paleo are high in histamine.

Try avoiding high histamine foods and see if that helps your body. Eating grains like rice, millet, and teff have really helped me feel normal again, but I soak or sprout them if I can. If you soak potatoes they should be gentler on your body too.

[–]kiawa[🍰] 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm going to add in my personal experience here (purely anecdotal) because you mentioned how much better you feel when you eat potatoes. For me when I first went on paleo my carb intake dropped when I stopped eating bread and pasta. What I didn't know at the time is that some women can have hormonal issues that prevent them from eating low carb. I found this to be true for me, but what I also found was that I didn't just needs carbs from veggies and fruits, I only felt better once I added back rice and potatoes into my diet. Before that paleo gave me constipation, abdominal bloating/pain, dry hair, fatigue, etc. I realized I need to eat considerably higher carb than many people doing paleo and for some reason adding back in the rice and potatoes really helped me immensely. So this was just my own trial and error, but if you feel that much better from eating potatoes it might just be your body telling you that you need them.

[–]Marinaisgo[S] 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks, and happy cake day!

[–]matrixdragon 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

As suggested from others, as well as from your weigh-in, it sounds like you are not getting enough calories or a well-balanced nutrient profile. I would highly reccommend upping your intake of calorie-dense, high fat/protein foods like avocados, fish, and meat. These will fill you up while also providing you with a slow energy burn. I would also recommend MUCH more vegetables if you can afford it, and maybe reintroducing fruit. I know you mentioned you can't really handle leafy veggies, but you should really be eating way more than just cabbage and pickles (not to mention pickles are pretty high in sodium). You don't even need to cook them, and raw veggies tend to make you feel fuller anyway. You may be missing a lot of key vitamins and minerals that you can typically only get in fruits and veggies.

Maybe cut back on your nuts as well.

If non-paleo foods like corn, beans, and rice don't bother you, then feel free to continue eating them. If it helps, plan your meals for the week. That way you know exactly what you're eating, and you can keep tabs on how you feel with each meal.

Hope this helps!

[–]IEngineerShtuff 3ポイント4ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm just eating nuts and peanut-butter and pickles for most of my meals

Yeah you flubbed up the whole paleo thing a bit. I think that diet would make anyone feel bad. Eat some meat and vegetables.

[–]TheWebCoder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You may also be missing the carbs more than him

[–]You_Are_All_Diseased 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

You need to eat more regularly when you aren't eating tons of carbs. If you start eating meals regularly, you won't have a problem. Buy some bananas and learn to cook eggs.