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/r/fatpeoplehate should have a verification system like /r/gonewild to make sure it's users are fit like they claim. (self.CrazyIdeas)

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[–]That_Guy381 334ポイント335ポイント  (37子コメント)

They do. Not such a crazy idea anymore, eh?

[–]Dik_fore[S] 59ポイント60ポイント  (36子コメント)

But you're able to post otherwise, so it's nothing more than a shoulder patch.. For a community who holds themselves so high, to allow anyone makes it seem more for show

[–]wordcross 69ポイント70ポイント  (27子コメント)

I'm pretty sure you have to be verified to actually post content and not have it removed. You can comment all day long if you want (and if they don't like what you have to say you'll get banned, or even shadowbanned stealth-banned), as long as you're subscribed.

[–]That_Guy381 92ポイント93ポイント  (2子コメント)

So... the exact same system as /r/gonewild.

[–]Linearts 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

You can comment all day long if you want (and if they don't like what you have to say you'll get banned, or even shadowbanned)

You can't get shadowbanned by subreddit moderators, only reddit admins can do that. Maybe you meant stealth-banned?

[–]wordcross 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sure, I'm not really familiar with the terminology on what mods can/can't do most places, so you're probably right. Being as I'm not verified there, I'm going based on what I've heard from people who are.

[–]devperez [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Literally no one calls it stealth banned. It's usually referred to as automod shadowban or mod shadowban.

[–]TheHomophobicFaggot 2ポイント3ポイント  (10子コメント)

I'm not verified and I've posted before on my previous account.

This really isn't a crazy idea though seeing as many people there don't care to be verified because that means putting your face/body to your reddit name and many aren't comfortable doing that. It's all for a little flair besides your name to say you aren't disgusting to look at... not very crazy.

[–]-ILikePie- 0ポイント1ポイント  (9子コメント)

Oh don't post it to reddit. Message verification pics to the mods. Your face doesn't even have to be in it!

Edit- mine says Skinny Bitch and I love it lol

[–]TheHomophobicFaggot -1ポイント0ポイント  (8子コメント)

For those of us with tattoos, it's essentially the same thing. I'm not up to providing material for someone else to potentially dox me with too.

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    [–]-ILikePie- -4ポイント-3ポイント  (5子コメント)

    Yup! We say "get verified, or get out!" . Also, if anyone (unverified) makes a questionable comment, we ask for fit proof or the mods delete it.

    [–]sprajanimal proteins -3ポイント-2ポイント  (4子コメント)

    You don't ask for fit proof, you ask for thin proof. Sloth is just as bad a sin as gluttony, most of the users on FPH are skinny fat.

    [–]TheAngryAgnostic [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

    Is skinny fat just people who don't have to try to be thin? Or people with no muscle mass, or what?

    [–]sprajanimal proteins [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

    Skinny people that aren't fit. Don't lift, run, etc. They're saved only by a virtuous metabolism. In practice they're equally as unfit as the fat people they make fun of.

    [–]Nico777 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Maybe it's metabolism, maybe it's the fact that they don't gorge themselves 24/7 with cake. I don't see anything wrong with being skinny and not fit, it's surely healthier than being obese.

    [–]-ILikePie- -3ポイント-2ポイント  (0子コメント)

    I'm not!

    [–]temalyen 0ポイント1ポイント  (3子コメント)

    But what if you're a low esteem self hating fat person? Can they post?

    [–]thehighground 4ポイント5ポイント  (7子コメント)

    Most people are banned from posting there.

    [–]fistymcbuttpuncher 3ポイント4ポイント  (6子コメント)

    Only if they're fat and/or fat sympathizers.

    [–]bigbowlowrong 7ポイント8ポイント  (3子コメント)

    What's a fat sympathizer? Does asking make me one?

    [–]Entropy- 8ポイント9ポイント  (1子コメント)

    If you say anything that puts being fat in a positive light or attempting to explain their behavior. You can even be banned and ridiculed for saying "they're not that fat"

    [–]s2514 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    or attempting to explain their behavior

    Okay I get the rest of this but that part seems kind of silly... I mean understanding why people do negative things is the key to fixing that behavior.

    [–]NeoLuBers [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    the common example is "oh what a shame that girl would be pretty is she wasnt fat", potential means nothing, just results/reality.

    [–]FireHazard11 15ポイント16ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Only if they're fat and/or fat sympathizers.

    By sympathizer you mean "doesn't think fat people are literally subhuman." So, most people.

    [–]s2514 79ポイント80ポイント  (55子コメント)

    I swear every time /r/fatpeoplehate is mentioned it causes drama.

    [–]robotortoise[RES:error displaying upvote counter] 37ポイント38ポイント  (5子コメント)

    I'm pretty sure they have a Google alert that alerts them to whenever they're mentioned.

    [–]rreighe2 11ポイント12ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You can set IFTTT to alert you when certain keywords are met

    [–]robotortoise[RES:error displaying upvote counter] 3ポイント4ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Huh.

    Maybe it's that then.

    [–]Choreboy 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

    If This first, of course.

    [–]JamesMean 9ポイント10ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Or maybe the sub has over 100k subscribers so some of them have to be on /all

    [–]DrSmoke 29ポイント30ポイント  (26子コメント)

    Because literally most people are fat now. So you can't talk about fatpeople, without lots of people getting pissed off about it.

    [–]turole 11ポイント12ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Or because most people think that hating on a group because of physical characteristics isn't a productive activity and creates a negative echo chamber.

    [–]Dlgredael 30ポイント31ポイント  (23子コメント)

    You don't have to be fat to see a bunch of self-loving douchebags jerking each other off and say "Fuck those people".

    [–]MexicanGolf [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Nah, I basically dislike all hate groups, regardless if I feel the actual hatred has merit or not. Hatred is one of the dumbest emotions to foster, and all those ladies do so knowingly, I cannot possibly support such insanity.

    I'm all for a less fat world but if the choice is fat or hatred I'd rather chose fat. Fat has caused nowhere near the damage hatred has.

    [–]danielhep 14ポイント15ポイント  (121子コメント)

    How does the verification system work?

    [–]wordcross 12ポイント13ポイント  (120子コメント)

    You're required to send photographic evidence (including attribution) that you're not overweight (and by "not overweight" I mean at least within a healthy BMI range if not toward the low end of it.) You have to give your height and weight as well, and it's all down to the mods' decision. I haven't done it yet since I'm not that skinny yet, but it's pretty strict.

    [–]sprajanimal proteins 99ポイント100ポイント  (96子コメント)

    You shouldn't do it because that's retarded.

    [–]Syn-NW 20ポイント21ポイント  (4子コメント)

    I like how you dont get down voted for using retarded in a negative way, while anyone talking down about the plague of obesity is down voted... go reddit.

    [–]sprajanimal proteins 10ポイント11ポイント  (2子コメント)

    You bring up a good point. I used to not use the word casually at all and it's started to work its way back into my vocabulary. Gotta check myself on that in the future.

    [–]Chucklet [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

    Well, obesity is a problem, but HATING all people who are obese is just wrong. You wouldn't hate someone with AIDS or any disease just because they have a disease would you?

    [–]ofirissmart -2ポイント-1ポイント  (7子コメント)

    But then how will he obtain the holy validation of the place that supports a bulimic woman that pukes next to her 5 year old daughter & harasses a suicidal overweight person on /r/SuicideWatch?!

    [–]crazy_brain_lady 2ポイント3ポイント  (2子コメント)

    Where was this?

    [–]ofirissmart 5ポイント6ポイント  (1子コメント)

    Well the first one was a user called CatTricks or CrazyTricks, something like that and she posted a post about how proud she is about her 5 year old saying bad things about fat people. Somebody dug up her post history about her being bulimic and puking close to her daughter multiple times, but the FPH crowd were overwhelmingly in support of her and anyone questioning her parental capabilities was heavily downvoted, maybe even banned too, I don't recall 100%. Apparently as long as you aren't fat being a horrible parent is A-OK.

    The second one is pretty much like it sounds, they posted some overweight Redditor's picture, he got heavily ridiculed in the post and found out about it. Went to /r/SuicideWatch for support, but they brigaded that post too, any advice was heavily downvoted and all the top comments were "you actually should kill yourself, fatty".

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          [–]therearesomewhocallm 10ポイント11ポイント  (1子コメント)

          But what about self-loathing fat people?

          [–]Glitter_puke 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Violates rule 2 and gets you banned.

          [–]FunTomasso 53ポイント54ポイント  (10子コメント)

          They actually have one (or a special sub-subreddit with that system, I don't remember). Fun thing was when someone from /fit/ posted the pics from that place - they were all a bunch of skeletons (what a surprise, huh).

          They're actually very touchy when it comes to fitness. There are numerous posts on /r/subredditdrama when /fit/ or /r/fitnesscirclejerk raided them and adviced to start working out. They went apeshit crazy every time, up to the point when someone claimed he can't gain weight because of his high metabolism, so no muscle (so, the same 'muh genetics' argument as the one HAES use). Something something horseshoe theory.

          [–]ofirissmart 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Dude, that guy totally drank FOUR PROTEINS A WEEK, clearly just a case of MUH CONDISHUNZ not allowing him to gain muscle mass.

          [–]walnut_of_doom 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          FPH is full of people with eating disorders, just the type where they don't eat enough cause of their poor self image. Personally I think it's hilarious seeing a bunch of skeletons that would get crushed under a barbell.

          [–]gnrlysrs 6ポイント7ポイント  (0子コメント)

          That's one of the things I hate about fatpeoplehate, the sub has funny stuff, but if you talk about how lifting and being strong is better than just being skinny and weak and closely monitoring your calories, you will get downvoted.

          [–]Ormild 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

          You know, I never thought of that. I sometimes like to read there and people mention that they can't gain weight because of high metabolism (which is bull shit), but I've cared more when fat people mention they cant lose weight due to genetics. Both parties are using the exact same argument.

          [–]Thorrtun -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

          Wow, "skeletons", sounds like fat-lingo.

          [–]walnut_of_doom 1ポイント2ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Or an apt description of a bunch of disgusting malnourished children who project their own self loathing onto fat people, regardless of if they are part of that bullshit healthy at every size movement.

          [–]Thorrtun [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

          None of those looked malnourished.

          [–]walnut_of_doom [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          Hyperbole. Can we settle on looking like limp feminine noodles?

          [–]FunTomasso 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Took it from either that /fit/ thread I linked or fph/fitnesscirclejerk crossovers. Just to be clear I am not really better than the guys in question, not buff or swole or anything like that, I just like the drama.

          [–]NotTheStatusQuo 33ポイント34ポイント  (5子コメント)

          Have you read the rules of that subreddit? Rule 2. No dissent / No being fat. Rule 5. Absolutely NO FAT SYMPATHY.

          It's not a place where people who think obesity is a problem that needs to be addressed can gather and discuss the issue. It's a place for people to just hate. It's mandated hate. Just try to post something that isn't hating on fat people and you'll get banned.

          Don't confuse it for something it's not.

          [–]costlyy 19ポイント20ポイント  (1子コメント)

          It's literally called /r/FatPeopleHate, why are you expecting something else?

          [–]drogean3 4ポイント5ポイント  (1子コメント)

          so much for "making reddit a safe place", eh admins?

          [–]Bradlock [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          well its called /r/fatpeoplehate not /r/fatepeoplehateandabitofsympathy

          [–]FrogDie 4ポイント5ポイント  (0子コメント)

          WOW people, hold onto your horses! This idea is going w-w-w-wickedly CRRRAZY!

          [–]nomosolo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          They do, but no one will take you seriously unless you are verified.

          [–]PetevonPete [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

          Why would fat people go to fatpeoplehate? That's like a jew trying to join the nazi party.

          [–]Dick_cheese_jam 6ポイント7ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Weird sub. Never had problems with fat people. Seems like they go out of their way to complain.

          [–]walnut_of_doom -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

          It's a bunch of twiggy people that are mocked for looking sickly, so they hate on fat people since they don't have anyone else to mock.

          [–]parwa 22ポイント23ポイント  (19子コメント)

          honest question, is there any way to block it from showing up on /r/all? that subreddit is cancerous and i hate seeing their posts.

          inb4 "haha found the fatty"

          [–]Sleipnoir 13ポイント14ポイント  (3子コメント)

          If you got banned from there, would it stop the posts from showing up in /r/all?

          [–]Morene_Darkstar 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Nope, it will still show up.

          [–]FireHazard11 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Nope, I was banned but it shows up. If you have RES/gold/a mobile app you can filter subreddits from all.

          [–]damontoo 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

          But it still requires that you first visit /r/all and then click a filter link in the sidebar. It shouldn't be like that. It should actually filter /r/all by default without the extra link.

          [–]jfb1337 38ポイント39ポイント  (0子コメント)

          RES

          [–]aspmaster 7ポイント8ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I'm pretty sure that's a Gold feature, possibly.

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            [–]Shrubberer 5ポイント6ポイント  (13子コメント)

            They should also be required to make fun of themselves Louis CK style or else the fatpoeplehate might be not sincere and just an outlet of surpressed self-hate.

            [–]psychobilly1 5ポイント6ポイント  (12子コメント)

            I pretty much go there because it's good weight loss inspiration. I hate myself for being overweight. I'm not even close to being that far gone like to people they make fun of, but it's inspirational in a way, to not end up like those people. It shows how people don't always care how nice or kind you are if you aren't physically attractive.

            [–]Das_Mime 12ポイント13ポイント  (11子コメント)

            That's the weird thing about that subreddit--I've literally never encountered anyone from it who actually claimed to be fit, but I've encountered innumerable people who readily acknowledge that they're overweight and who think that vilifying others is an acceptable and healthy way to deal with their self-hatred.

            Protip: self-hatred is a really, really ineffective motivational tool. You probably need therapy if you're that far gone.

            [–]wordcross 5ポイント6ポイント  (3子コメント)

            Everyone who is verified on FPH is thin. They have to be to get verified. I personally know two people who are verified, both of whom used to be fat, but who are now thin because they learned how weight loss actually works and did it.

            [–]DonaldJDarko 12ポイント13ポイント  (2子コメント)

            So FPH is a bunch of former fatties who now feel the need to hate and bully fat people because they got bullied for being fat and want to make themselves feel better?

            Honestly, if those people were happy in life they wouldn't feel the need to bring other people down. And then they try to justify their hate by saying they're doing it for society. Bitch, please. There are so many things that are more wrong today that do affect them, how about you fight for those as intensely as you're hating from behind a screen.

            [–]wordcross -4ポイント-3ポイント  (0子コメント)

            So FPH is a bunch of former fatties...

            Not everyone in FPH used to be overweight. I don't know the demographic breakdown, so I won't speculate on how many there are of either type.

            There are so many things that are more wrong today that do affect them, how about you fight for those as intensely as you're hating from behind a screen.

            Human trafficking is a huge global problem. Do you constantly fight against it?

            Poverty and extreme hunger are gigantic problems globally. Do you constantly participate in fundraisers and food drives and lobby for more foreign aid and better infrastructure and better farming practices and income equality?

            Religious extremism is rampant in many parts of the world. What are you doing to combat it?

            People are poorly educated the world over. Do you Teach for America? Teach children in a 3rd world country how to read? Teach adults how to read? Teach people how to build important infrastructure like wells, roads, bridges, housing, or power plants?

            No? Well then you better get on it, plus the hundreds of other issues at home and abroad. AIDS, Economic disaster, Earthquakes, Floods, Climate Change, Child Pornography, greed, corruption, rising medical costs, soaring insurance premiums, identity theft, rape, murder, arson, terrorism, war...

            Everyone has their crusade(s). To expect someone to crusade for everything is ridiculous. To expect everyone to fall into a few crusades is ridiculous. If there's something that needs crusading for, it should have crusaders. It's not an all or nothing proposition.

            There are so many things that are more wrong today

            So get off reddit yourself and go do something. Obesity is such a major problem today, and it's absolutely preventable, fixable, and in a lot of cases the health problems that come with it are even reversible. But despite all of the information and help out there, we're fatter than ever. To say that rebelling against fat logic and fat culture is less important that other issues is irrelevant. It's still important, and absolutely needs to be done.

            Is FPH helping the best way they can? Maybe, maybe not. But to tell them that obesity and fat aren't important enough to warrant the attention is, again, ridiculous.

            [–]ThisIsARobot 0ポイント1ポイント  (6子コメント)

            What is a good motivational tool then? I feel like you need to get to a point in your life we're you're so unhappy with it that you'll finally decide to change. If your comfortable with yourself, why change?

            [–]Das_Mime 4ポイント5ポイント  (4子コメント)

            What is a good motivational tool then?

            As with most things, the best motivational tool is an actual sincere desire for the rewards of whatever you're trying to accomplish. If you are losing weight because you want to be more athletic or you want the health benefits or you personally just want to look thinner, that's great and more power to you. If you're losing weight because you hate yourself, particularly when it's this sort of hate that's largely imposed by external norms, it's both psychologically unhealthy and also less likely to be a long-term change.

            If your comfortable with yourself, why change?

            Why indeed? If you're comfortable and happy with yourself and your actions aren't hurting anyone else, there's no need to change.

            [–]pigeon_rapist 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Being comfortable and happy with yourself is actually the best mindset to be in when trying to better yourself. If you care about yourself you're going to want to start doing good things for yourself, whereas someone who is depressed isn't going to be able to hold any positive motivation. It's like, if I'm depressed right now why would I go on a run instead of watching tv, I'm not worth it, it doesn't matter blah blah blah, but if you're stoked on yourself you're gonna be like, Fuck yeah I'm going on a run, I'm awesome! Also, if you're doing something for yourself it's going to last a lot longer than if you're doing it for someone else (e.g. so ppl won't judge you).

            [–]romulusnr 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            and everyone else goes to /r/fatpeopleselfhate

            [–]frightenedthrowaways -2ポイント-1ポイント  (11子コメント)

            i don't understand r/fatpeople hate.... what's the difference between discriminating someone due to their weight, skin color, or gender?

            inb4: yes "ha ha ha found the fatty"....very original.

            But i'm a fit person, and i understand the obesity pandemic, but food is an actual addiction; and just like a drug addict, or a sex addict, its up to the individual to seek help.

            [–]raconteuring 13ポイント14ポイント  (1子コメント)

            Because you don't have heroine and meth addicts posting their decaying bodies all over the internet saying BEAUTIFUL AT EVERY STAGE OF DECOMPOSITION and encouraging people to follow them into morbid addictions. If they did, they would probably receive the same amount of hate.

            [–]blahblah24x 1ポイント2ポイント  (0子コメント)

            Sure, but the same sort of thing happening with the obese people happened initially with smokers. It was cool to smoke. There was commercials and different flavors for kids and all the celebrities advocated it. And it turned out that smoking was bad, causing a lot of the similar problems obesity does ie health issues, "ugly" people in public. Things that FPH use to justify their hatred. Lots of parallels.

            But we didn't combat smokers with such vilified hatred. We had regulations put up, made the health concerns known through various channels, and attack the real enemy the tobacco industry. It would be more beneficial to combat the growing obesity rates with the same tactics. Limit the fast food commercials (especially the ones aimed at kids), put warning labels on unhealthy foods, attack the fast food industry instead of the people who for various reasons have a problem balancing food intake and exercising (lack of money, addiction, raised into it, just plain ignorance, etc).

            edit: hell, you can find parallels with alcohol too (all those commercials trying to make drinking look cool, has similar problems as obesity such as addiction, health problems). Of course all this is from an American perspective. I'm not too knowledgeable about societal trends in other countries in regards to these things like obesity, smoking, and alcoholism.

            [–]Deprisonne 9ポイント10ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You can't change your skin color or your gender, but you can affect your weight quite easily...

            [–]bericd 1ポイント2ポイント  (1子コメント)

            you don't choose to be a certain gender or skin colour. being fat is something you can change. not that i think it's right to hate someone just for being fat.

            [–]OuternetInterpreter 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            You have no choice over your skin colour or gender. You have absolute control over you're weight. you can't even compare those things to each other.

            [–]ElectroBoof 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

            There are hate subs for all of those discriminatory subjects. They just aren't as popular. I hate how people think it's the only place on reddit where people express their opinions in such a way.

            [–]NeoLuBers [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

            I use to think that food was an addiction, then i realize it was just another excuse, craving isnt the same as withdrawal effects, its just your weak easy pleasure seeking shallow mind, thinking you are powerless and giving up its just to take away the guilt of not being able to treat your body correctly and eating normal sized portions to keep your body functions. You can and should enjoy food but with moderation and self respect, and its not about morals, its about health and the way obesity affects society and people.

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              [–]peacefinder 0ポイント1ポイント  (0子コメント)

              What, there's no room for self-loathing?

              [–]OrbitalStrikeBadger -1ポイント0ポイント  (0子コメント)

              It would completely decimate their user base.

              The only people who give that much of a shit about fat people are other fat people.

              Why do you think their most hated kind of fat person is the fat person with self-esteem? Because it drives home their own self-hated for being fat.

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