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[–]optionhome 6ポイント7ポイント  (4子コメント)

You have to admire how liberals are able to market their nonsense with the help of the lying liberal media.

With this current non issue, I always picture a guy with no skills or education, with a wife and 2 kids, flipping burgers with a big smile because he is now getting $15 per hour.

Funny how the majority of the public doesn't realize that if your career is a minimum wage job, raising it to $15 is not going to make a dent in your struggle.

[–]ferrarisnowday -2ポイント-1ポイント  (3子コメント)

Huh? How is doubling your wage not going to make a dent?

[–]okpok 5ポイント6ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because things don't happen in a vacuum. You don't just magically get higher wages with no consequences. Those who are not worth $15 an hour will no longer be able to find a job. Companies will have higher incentive to have less workers. The market will reflect the higher wages with price increases. Jobs will continue to be shipped overseas because it is cheaper. Cause and effect.

And I just want to put it out there (this is not directed towards you, but in general, /u/ferrarisnowday) - businesses aren't charities. They don't provide welfare and they don't provide handouts. And they shouldn't be forced to. Businesses exist to make a profit.

[–]Oldschool1964 2ポイント3ポイント  (1子コメント)

A couple of answers to your question:

1) You just got laid off because you don't have any skills (you're making minimum wage still, so that says a lot about your skill set). Other people who make $1 over minimum wage because they've been there for 6 months will then have to take over the duties you performed and will now be responsible for the tasks they currently have AND yours. Those other people will be bumped to $15, but will now be doing the job of what 3 people once did. Now the dent is a cavern. Most companies are going to prefer attrition, but if push comes to shove, the lowest on the totem pole is going to go.

2) Let's say you're one of the lucky ones who stay on after the "reorganization". Now as you travel back home, you'll notice that other businesses might be shuttered because of the market disruptions. This reduction in market competition and the increase in the wages will then make that extra money you just put in your pocket not go very far, because similar to your employer, other employers will most likely meet the new minimum wage with higher prices and/or reduced staffing. Therefore, you might have more money in your pocket, but you're spending more on the goods and services you purchase. Is it a net positive? I guess we'll see.

When you concentrate on those with a minimum wage job, you also ignore those that are either entering the job market or those who are currently unemployed and searching for a job. Those people are now met with even less prospects because you've reduced their opportunities for an entry-level position.

Here's some discussion on Seattle's minimum wage hike.

[–]Clatsopvincit omnia veritas[S] 4ポイント5ポイント  (6子コメント)

Milton Friedman: The real tragedy of minimum wage laws is that they are supported by well-meaning groups who want to reduce poverty. But the people who are hurt most by higher minimums are the most poverty stricken.

[–]DRKMSTR 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was truly brilliant.

[–]A_DERPING_ULTRALISK -5ポイント-4ポイント  (4子コメント)

What the hell. How can increasing minimum wage hurt poverty stricken people?

By your logic we should just reduce their pay even more to "help" them.

[–]xXnewbsonlyXx 0ポイント1ポイント  (1子コメント)

only if you assume minimum wage laws raise the quality of life of the lowest skilled worker. Turns out they don't.

[–]PillarOfWisdom 2ポイント3ポイント  (0子コメント)

Libs know this. One of the reasons they are pushing for a higher minimum wage is because union wages are based on the percentage the union wage is against the minimum wage. If the min wage is low they don't get as much. Meaning union bosses don't get as much. Meaning Democrats don't get add much.