"Reddit LoL Team"

OviLOL · 3 日前

I thought it was a joke and everybody was joking wtf...

Death10 · 3 日前

This started out as a joke, and I think this should just stay a joke. This will either end up as a scam or a failure. Take your pick.

PubliclyLargeDebater · 3 日前

I just assumed this reddit team thing was just an annoying joke that will die off soon enough. Didn't realise some random guys actually collecting money to try get it started....

Is reddit just gonna fund; coaches, analysts and pay players a reasonable amount of money? And if reddit chooses the players it's a big ass popularity competition of which not most of the best players won't choose to be apart of. And as such no one competitively relevant would make it onto this "team".

Please let this joke end....

Leandir · 3 日前

I like how the guy behind it wanted to boycott the subreddit a month ago. Now he's supposedly making a team for it.

Opinionat0r · 3 日前

Someone posted this in another thread; www.winorbench.com

CamPaine · 3 日前

How about we just make a fantasy team and vote on that.

lholm · 3 日前

Let's assume that the team actually becomes successful enough to play in the LCS.

When TSM let people know that Lustboy was joining before Riot had time to approve him, they were fined, because what they did is against LCS rules.

So how is new player acquisitions supposed to work in the Reddit Team? Who negotiates with players? Who decides on what player to actually get? Is it all done on Reddit, in front of the eyes of every other team and player? Is it done on a private forum off-site where the people who have made themselves part owner gets to talk about it? What stops every journalist from paying the minimum to also be able to join in?

None of this would actually work in. Someone would always talk about new players as soon as possible, which Riot punishes with fines (initially, we don't know what they will do once it's shown that fines aren't enough). All of this is without even taking into account the poaching rule.

The only way which it would work is if the Reddit Team is run the same way as any other team, except people on Reddit are giving money to keep it going. Basically the same as if a team is funded through Kickstarted, IndieGoGo, Patreon, ... The "Team Reddit owners" just gives money to the team, and then other people actually handles everything, in which case I wouldn't really call it a "Reddit" team anymore.

An actual Reddit Team where players are randomly voted in and out based on what redditors are complaining about would only work if the team basically just existed as a gag. Play some team ranked games, MAYBE enter a some minor tournament occasionally, ect.... meaning there is pretty much no money involved. Personally I think this could actually be pretty fun, and what I initially thought about when I heard the idea. However in this case: Why is there a dude who is quitting his job to do this full time?

Sikletrynet · 3 日前

I honestly thought this thing was just a joke. Unbelieveable that a random guy just put himself in position to "run" the team for a "small" salary just like this, simply beacuse he bothered to make a post about it.

There's just no freaking way this is gonna work out

Nicer_Chile · 3 日前

i wanna ask who dafaq is /u/TitusBatiatus and who nominated this guy be the manager of our reddit team?...

Magikarp_or_Feed · 3 日前

This whole reddit team thing will be one of the cringiest things to ever happen on this sub and I can't wait to see how it will unfold.

MTT93 · 3 日前

people take this seriously?

NyaaFlame · 3 日前

This happens with every other kickstarter or crowdfunded project. People think of it as an investment.

It isn't. With an investment you are paying money to earn a share of profits. This is a donation to a stranger you don't know, nor has he any qualifications, to do something that you won't make any money off of nor will it likely succeed.

Aldaqt · 3 日前

just lol at "reddit" team. This will be the worst team in the league of legends history

AcidReniX · 3 日前

There are ways that a /r/leagueoflegends team can materialise, but I can assure you that crowd funding away some cash to a random on the Internet is not one of them. I'm sure he means well but it will not work.

The dream that seems to be in everyone's head is to form a team that will instantly buy the best players and compete in the LCS in 1 or 2 splits. This will NEVER happen.

The way that this would launch, is to use people power (not people's money) to have an accelerated start to get from the bottom to the top.

Firstly, you CAN decide on a team name on the subreddit. This gets the community actively involved in the team creation and immediately gets everyone here involved.

Next you need to decide on a Manager or a group of Managers who will work for free (at least initially). This is probably the hardest part of the project. You need to be able to trust that these people are in it for the right reasons, can be trusted with money (when it is made) and will keep the community project as a community project for the people and not a personal investment. There needs to be a robust application process with people who can vouch for a person's integrity.

Next you need to find some volunteer, high skilled players to form a team from scratch... for free. Or... you find an existing team who are willing to play under the new name... for free.

The selling point for these, is that they will instantly have a higher fan base than the average start up team. They will have instant fame and publicity, they will have subscribers to their (team owned) streams. They should get proper coaching and even if their time with the team is short (benched, transferred etc..), they will have been part of what could potentially be a historic gaming team. This is much like in sports so I wouldn't see it as being particularly brutal.

If the community supports the team, advertising money can be made which can help fund tournament entries, and potentially some small contracts to individual players. With a large player base, the team's management can start to work on advertising and sponsorship deals which can further accelerate the team's progress.

Of course... the community needs something in return for this. We need to have our say and the management need to be aware of this. Sure, not every silver or bronze player out there knows what is best for the team, but as this is to be a community project, any strong voices from the community needs to be addressed.

Lastly, if the team does end up successful, there needs to be a clear financial plan that will benefit players, management and the community as a whole. The community can't be expected to simply push a few players into the limelight and have a management team making mega bucks.

If the team needs money for something specific, such as a tournament fee or some travel costs (and does not already have it through ad revenue), a small donation drive can be placed specifically for that reason, but this is about the only funding they should ever receive directly through redditor's payments.

Profits should be pushed back into the community. This could be free merchandise, competitions for event tickets or other prizes. Obviously making significant amounts of money would be quite far down the line, and players, coaches and management would need to be financially protected as assets (otherwise they would just join another team for more money), but after that, the community needs to see some benefits for the support than gets the team to where ever it gets.

The community needs to work hard as well. They need to get behind the team, watch the streams and support the players. This project would be a lot like starting up a Sunday league football team with the aim of supporting it all the way up to the top divisions. It can be exciting but you're not starting with a professional team right from the get go.

We do not have a tree, we have a seed that needs our help to grow. It sprouts, then becomes a little sapling but eventually it can become a tree. That is how I would see a /r/leagueoflegends team materialising.

Ev1lGhoSt · 3 日前

Wait, people actually thought this was for real? In that case, lets go guys, I got a call from Santa, we gotta go to the North Pole

Nusaik · 3 日前

Hey everyone. Why don't you take the money you were going to give this guy and donate it to Nepal?

playpet · 3 日前

As a side note, anyone who thinks qtpie and Megazero will actually take part in this are either naive or delusional. They are professional/semi-professional players, they are not going to risk their jobs to join a team created out of thin air by some random reddit user.

TheBakke · 3 日前

This is such a great idea. Either a bunch of morons get scammed and I can sit back like the smug bastard I am, or it actually goes somewhere and I get to see this disaster make its way through the scene. Win win.

HedgehogBC · 3 日前

Nothing more than Dank Memes and Broken Dreams.

I think I found my new 5s team name...

ElxaDahl · 3 日前

tl;dr This community is full of retarded kids

jairbreaux · 3 日前

Can't. Upvote. Hard enough.

AnAngryFetus · 3 日前

Best case scenario, all donations are taken as a share of stock and distributed accordingly (requiring even dollar amounts for simplicity). There would be a problem of verifying legitimacy of the shareholder via online services. This team would not get into the LCS until this time next year best case scenario. You gotta pay 5 players, a coach, and probably an analyst for a year of their time. On top of that, you have to pay for their living expenses. The cost estimates can get tricky depending on where they are housed, if utilities are included in the rent or not, and what the purchasing power of the US dollar is in that location. On top of that, only young and inexperienced people will join this team, so it's highly unlikely that it would make it in on its first attempt. In that case, you need to have contingencies in place to continue funding. So far, all this guy has done with his transparency is only talk to people in skype in private. Super transparent right there.

swarley2004 · 3 日前

Don't give your money to anyone on the Internet except Riot Games^{^TM}

redditsmurf23 · 3 日前

People that donate to stuff like this and get scammed probably had it coming. Natural selection in the 21st century at its finest!

Vertchewal · 3 日前

The only way there would be a "reddit" LoL team is if Reddit sponsored the team themselves.

litek · 3 日前

Screw this guy, why not make it a small side job for everyone that chips in? Why is he supposed to be a special snowflake when he has no background whatsoever?

_Vane · 3 日前

Thats a long edit for a 10 minute post
Edit: clarified

danielloking · 3 日前

And I thought all that 'reddit team' hype was just a joke. I don't think that anyone who has a working brain will donate any money to a mysterious person who we know nothing of.

aznology · 3 日前

I actually think even if this was a joke this could be a legendary ground breaking experiment. A community ran team sorta like small scale absolute democracy. Anyways I say it should be done like a company. Whoever buys in should get a share of the company an d thus a voting point. However each person is only allowed 1 point so to each their own about how much money to contribute. And the owners get ads money and other side incomes based on the percentage of the stock they own. This way no money is being freely pumped into the team.

NochEinmalBitte · 3 日前

OP is right, there's an obvious risk that this guy will simply scam the community and run away with the money.

To prevent this, I kindly offer to act as a middleman: send me the money instead and I will make sure it stays in a safe place until we know more details about the project.

Neutrum1 · 3 日前

I thought it was joke, wtf.

loxbxc · 3 日前

it's funny to me that some 13yo is seriously planning to own a team while typing their "future" in his mom's basement lol

HiImMarcus · 3 日前

I hate Gnarsies, he is everywhere where he can find a lil bit Drama, give his 2 Cents to it, make a Video and hopes to get more Viewers. Watch out for the "Reddit Team" Video.

I still would not donate anything.

yemDX · 3 日前

Most awkward shit ever, incase anyone actually thought reddit was capable of creating & funding a team i'm really sorry to break it to you, it won't happen

it's seriously fucking embarresing that this got as far as it did, i'm problably gonna have to stop visit this subreddit in incognito mode from now on because we're now retards to the rest of the world, even bigger then before

viranth · 3 日前

No offense to whoever is working hard to make this work. But how exactly do you think it will work?

First you need a stable income, crowdsourcing every month is highly unlikely to create this. Then you also need enough bank so you can keep the team going for at least 6-12 months to a year without any income capable of sustaining the bills. Just to get the ball rolling so to speak...

You also need coach, manager and everything else to make this happen.

How are you going to get investors for this adventure? What kind of credibility do you have to make anyone want to invest?

Where would they be located?

How would you deal with the reddit community and the crowd that's giving you the money for deciding what players to use, what kind of plays, PR relations and such? An official vote? How will you deal with trolling? Team comps? Strategies?

All of these things might sound like fun and cool for the people that's never had any experience with this, but "fun and friendly" type organization will not work, there would be no clear leader to make the tough decisions.

The best way would be to present a possible team and management, then have reddit fund it with investors, but without any community control. Maybe down the line, but if they are to be succesfull, there has to be strong leadership and no "reddit challenger" leadership.

seanalltogether · 3 日前

It's time this "team" made their own subreddit and got off /r/leagueoflegends/. Pretty soon it starts becoming a conflict of interest to be promoting them as the official team of this subreddit.

Parasymphatetic · 3 日前

The team, however will become a full time job for me and I will have a very small salary that I can survive off of. The number I have worked out actually pays me less than I am currently making.

Please don't tell me that dude quit his 'real' job for this already? That would be insane.

DatFancyGamer · 3 日前

"Nothing more than Dank Memes and Broken Dreams."

himestlkr · 3 日前

Finally, somebody said it.

sarahbotts · 3 日前

Please clarify that this is not an official reddit sponsorship, nor is this sponsored officially by /r/leagueoflegends.

ScrotalAgony · 3 日前

Regardless of where you stand on the Reddit team or the details surrounding it: Be smart about your money, especially if it's going somewhere over the internet to a person or place you hardly know.

OP: As for the stuff said by TitusBatiatus, message him to come in here and explain himself to the public if what he said set off red flags for you. This sort of thing should be out in the open for clarity in this thread. And do try to be professional about it.

Gudin · 3 日前

What's there in making and managing amateur team that would make full time job? Like 9h/day?

There are people who are willing to do it for free. If they can waste 5h on LoL, they can waste 2h-3h on team management.

Hockeygod9911 · 3 日前

Let people lose money, it'll teach em a lesson.

Edit(Last one i promise): Please try to understand what you're "donating" for.. This is NOT a person in need of help. For example: Streamer, Cancer patient, Hurricane/Earthquake victims( Napal, Katrina, etc). You're giving money to some RANDOM guy just so he can start a team.. Seriously??? Let him work and buy his own team. Like everyone else in the scene has done.. This is ridiculous. Why not give everyone $10 for their own LCS team then?? Come on.... Not even people in the scene for YEARS have asked for something like this.. They actually like to EARN their accomplishments..

Well I agree that this entire idea is stupid as fuck and should be taken as nothing more then a joke. Your logic in this last paragraph is flawed. What do you think kickstarter, indiegogo, etc. all do? Exactly what this guy is proposing. If this whole thing was even remotely sound in nature then I could back it. But it's just an idea that blew up and somebody trying to cash in on it. You should be focusing on his shady practices and how hes going about doing it, not that theres anything wrong with asking for help.

imKoiE · 3 日前

I'm not going to donate but I can't wait to see this train wreck happen.

meatchariot · 3 日前

I laughed out loud at

This is NOT a person in need of help. For example: Streamer

many of them make well over my salary, many make over 10k a month. The fact that they still ask for donations is a scam, tricking dumb kids into thinking they are helping some charity case. Sure, the 20 subscriber person that quit their job for streaming might need it, but anyone with sponsor banners really doesn't need you

Yeahdudex · 3 日前

Donating money to this is like donating money to Jeb Bush's campaign. It's never gonna do anything useful besides making a dweeb feel good about himself.

PotatoFall · 3 日前

i thought this was just another dank meme

Ziu · 3 日前

It's a very positive thing that there is someone willing to take a stand in this matter, it's important to understand that the wast majority of the people in this subreddit are young and naive and easy to take advantage off. Good for you OP.

B0gna · 3 日前

The fact the guy is also asking the 'community' to make the logo for free by the looks of it is just wrong.

DefinitelyTrollin · 3 日前

I can't even believe that Reddit team shit is getting through moderation.

This place has become such a cesspool in between splits.

Elbion · 3 日前

This team will experience what in Economics is called 'The Free Rider Problem'. Lets pretend you work in an office and someones birthday is coming up. The office puts a jar in the break room where everyone is supposed to put a couple dollars to pay for a gift. You are then tasked with taking that money to go buy whatever the gift is. But when you go to pay you realize there isn't enough money in the jar, and you have to pay out of pocket for the rest.

This is the free rider problem, where when people are asked to anonymously donate to a greater cause they often wont, and assume that someone else will pay for it instead. Often resulting in a lack of funding for the project as a whole.

What I'm saying is that all these promises of donations over the internet don't mean anything. They are all completely unfaced with nothing to back them up. We don't know anything about the people promising to donate, and they could easily be lying about the money they have to give.

austin101123 · 3 日前

Wait... What is this Reddit team you speak of? Would it just join into the LCS magically? What's up?

croogle · 3 日前

If people are stupid enough to go through with this I guarantee you the team will suck, the players will fucking hate reddit and reddit will be absolutely polluted with garbage threads with garbage suggestions. Fuck this idea, even it as a joke was a stupid idea. Don't get some cunt rich through being stupid

xhankhillx · 3 日前

I hate the concept and I hate that some people are serious about this. it's going to end up in a bunch of exit scams, calling it now.

sephrinx · 3 日前

What a tool LMAO

pinkkittylamp · 3 日前

Other pro teams have sponsors to pay pro players to live their lifestyle. The equipment alone would cost thousands. This Titus guy seems very delusional. He keeps saying he's talking to several "people" to get a number to finance the team... It's like he's trying to decide what amount he could run with that would seem realistic and not too overboard.

hasnain1720 · 3 日前

good post i agree too many 12 years olds getting exited over this..

Forrest_Winiker · 3 日前

but le guys, who will be da coach of team dank epic memers 420 xD

rindindin · 3 日前

Wait seriously? I thought this was just a huge circlejerk or something? There's a real "team" coming out of all this? They want redditors to donate money and give them, essentially, a free path? Haha.

That's fucked.

RaptorJesus924 · 3 日前

Wait, this is real? Lol that is so autistic

lordlimecat · 3 日前

More like Reddit team, lol.

trevorlolo · 3 日前

what the fuck this whole thing is not a joke???

irishpete · 3 日前

i thought all this went without saying.

if people are dumb enough to throw their money away like this, they have too much money. maybe a good auld scam would be good for people, teach them to be sceptical of everything on the interwebs.

brownbruiser · 3 日前

you guys seriously thought you had lcs level players willing to play for this subreddit?

MLL91 · 3 日前

Ah, once more Gnarsies is working hard to get his name into random contexts.

Axelzish · 3 日前

http://gfycat.com/ConsciousBlankAmericancicada

audigex · 3 日前

Hi guys I want to stay home and play computer games all day, please send me $50 each so I can achieve my dream. In return you can all support me and buy my merchandise.

QueenUrgot · 3 日前

Let people donate, same kind of fools who give hundreds/thousands of $ to streamers just because they are girls showing off their rack. Fools will be fools.

Charman_ · 3 日前

"ludacris amount of money"

gayd3n · 3 日前

ludacris

WilliamCMinor · 3 日前

I personally won't crowdfund anything ever.

That being said, your statement "everyone donating money should earn a share of the team, or at least earn a salary" is even more stupid than the people you try to lecture.

Oh, and Gnarsies calls everything and everyone a "scam" if it gets him attention.

Median2 · 3 日前

Seemed like a fun idea, but it is way too costly and complicated to actually work. It would be cool to have a team owned by a community (sort of like the Green Bay Packers), but it's not an easy thing to do.

deadlycramp · 3 日前

Titus strikes me as that one kid who tries to join your group of friends back in elementary school, makes a fool of himself, comes back angry and plots something really substantial so people think he's cool.

travy_burr · 3 日前

At first, everyone would be all hyped up for this team. Then they would lose one game and reddit would forget all about them. And honestly if something like this would ever actually be real, I would need someone (or a team of someones) with a bit more credibility than some random guy. And that's just for me to be interested in keeping up with it. I would never actually give money.

shokzs · 3 日前

For example: Streamer, Cancer patient, Hurricane/Earthquake victims

lol, really?

kfcbucket21 · 2 日前

great post OP! not being sarcastic either lol

WeDemBoys007 · 3 日前

I'm just adding things i left out! Sorry if this format is hard to understand. I think most people get the picture..

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