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Goldsmiths university diversity officer could lose job after tweeting hashtag 'kill all white men' (standard.co.uk)

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[–]Gryff- 153 ポイント154 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good. She's a disgrace and utterly counterproductive.

[–]mr_rivers1 119 ポイント120 ポイント  (59子コメント)

She is also accused of oppressing the voices of disabled people during a recent occupation - something she, "as a disabled woman", denies.

I didn't know bat shit mental counted as a disability these days. I wonder what disability she has.

[–]fact_hunt 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (39子コメント)

Something self diagnosed

[–]brokegamerchannelCheshire cat 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (34子コメント)

On the internet, there is a self-diagnosis acceptance movement, I shit you not.

[–]Shaft-of-Patriarchy 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/xReggRr.jpg

[–]infernal_llamas 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I fully support self - diagnosis, it's how you tell if you are being an idiot.

[–]Brimshae 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (26子コメント)

No offense to you, but I'm not one to Listen and Believe. As much as I am going to hate reading it, link please?

[–]RecQueryEat your cereal 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (21子コメント)

They basically say that doctors and other medical professionals are ableist, privileged and part of the system. Essentially that they're out to get them by not diagnosing them with whatever made up thing they think they have.

I even seen some people self-diagnose as having cancer and then claim they overcame it with some bullshit.

It's a race to the bottom with them on who has the most disabilities and special-snowflake points. I used to have a few links for it but can't seem to find them, this is the best I can do:

[–]Liof 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (8子コメント)

What the fuck are these people...

[–]RecQueryEat your cereal 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It can get a lot worse, the self-diagnosis stuff is actually pretty tame compared to some of what you see and read.

One of the theories is that these people have no actual hardship, conflict, worries or oppression in their lives so they feel the need to manufacture it in order to feel special or to fit in with other people doing the same thing. Some of them are just looking for payout though.

They pretend to have disabilities and mental disorders, say that arguing online gave them PTSD. Try to be things like transfat or transethnic or say they have fictional characters living in their heads. Try to 'champion' the plight of others and come up with terms like stare-rape, manspreading or mansplaining, etc.

Of course they could also be slightly unbalanced and have a hard time distinguishing reality from fantasy.

[–]Liof 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow... The Internet is such a weird place sometimes; what a bizarre micro-culture. Thank you so much for taking the time to shed light on this bizarre fad. Interesting and terrifying.

[–]Brimshae 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

or say they have fictional characters living in their heads.

You mean like Robin Hood's mother, Robin himself, and a child-aged version of Robin, rescued via time travel from, the Sheriff of Nottingham?

No, really, I've been down this road. If you start hearing shit like this, stop what you're doing, get away from the crazy tumblrina, and move to another town.

[–]RecQueryEat your cereal 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've seen some weird ones:

  • Someone with multiple version of Hitler, like gay Hitler, jewish Hitler, female Hitler, etc.
  • People with the entire cast of ASOIAF/GOT.

Sometimes these characters and historical figures would take control and 'make them' do stuff they didn't want to do or they would do things like rape or kill each other inside the persons head.

Then there are the people who are convinced that any second they will Hulk-out and actually transform into a demon, werewolf, anime characters, etc.

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    [–]northern_crusaderYorkshire 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    My mother is one. Whatever she has can't just be a simple ache or pain but turns out to be whatever she decides sounds the best when googling. She then goes and pesters her poor GP. Every time I say that I have an ache or pain she goes on to tell me it could be some condition or other that I've never heard of. I just ignore her.

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      [–]killa22 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (9子コメント)

      Just when I think tumblr couldn't possibly produce anything more batshit insane than 'otherkin', I think I have been proven wrong. Jeez...

      [–]Margate_Mod 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      Just when I think tumblr couldn't possibly produce anything more batshit insane than 'otherkin'

      How about "I sexually identify as a baguette".

      [–]pryomancerHampshire 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      Attack helicopter or bust.

      [–]soralan 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I'd be surprised at that since a baguette is phallic and a form of bread misogyny or something.

      [–]killa22 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well, only if they self-diagnosed themselves like that.

      [–]wOlfLisKLeicestershire. Yes, the Midlands are a thing. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

      That has got to be a joke... Right? Please tell me it's a joke...

      [–]Margate_Mod 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      The baguette one is. But if you google "I sexually identify as" you will find plenty of real ones. Mostly stuff like leprechauns or attack helicopters. The world of the tumblrite is indeed strictly for the initiated.

      Honestly, I'm grateful to them for the amount of hilarity some of their crap induces. I haven't actually visited Tumblr in a long time, but I subscribe to /r/TumblrInAction which highlights their excesses beautifully.

      [–]RecQueryEat your cereal 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      It can get worse: http://www.reddit.com/r/TumblrInAction/comments/13irvr/the_tumblrinaction_dictionary_20_what_the_hell_do/

      [–]FaoeoaChorley, Lancashire 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Well, it's been nice knowing you all

      [–]brokegamerchannelCheshire cat 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Movement was too strong a word probably, it's more like individuals, but I have seen enough examples. I don't happen to have them bookmarked, you can find some on google from various blogs and tumblr, but I hesitate to link to them for obvious reasons. Here's a quote to get you started though:

      By opposing self diagnosis you are telling people that they cannot understand themselves without outside help. You’re opposing self-determination.

      [–]Brimshae 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      You know what? I... I'm good. That is not a rabbit hole I want to go down anymore.

      Not after reading that.

      Not since the incident.

      [–]Margate_Mod 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Also known as cyberchondriacs.

      [–]LeadingPretenderKernow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      Surely not?

      [–]I_like_uk_a_little 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      I love this. I might start self diagnosing. I'm going to tell everyone I know that I've got Downs Syndrome.

      [–]G_MorganWales [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

      To be fair some self-diagnosis are perfectly viable. I mean if you've lost a leg you can diagnose a lack of a leg pretty easily. Should go to the doctor to be sure though.

      [–]RichieSMLondon 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      "I researched it on the internet, so yes, this must be what I have. Feel sorry for me pls."

      [–]fact_hunt 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (1子コメント)

      Feel sorry for me pls. Therefore I gain X more points in the oppression olympics

      [–]CptBigglesworthSurrey 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      This. Feeling sorry is oppression.

      [–]misskjsCheshire 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (18子コメント)

      As much as I think this woman is a complete bimbo, you can't always judge somebody's health based on appearances. I sincerely hope she's not exaggerating or lying about it because there are many of us living with invisible illnesses who suffer because of people's ignorance and misconceptions.

      [–]umop_apisdn 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (14子コメント)

      she also says that she isn't white, so I am pretty sceptical that she actually is disabled - especially as she used that as an excuse to claim that she couldn't have discriminated against disabled people because "she is disabled".

      [–]CaptainAirstripOne 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (8子コメント)

      She's probably Turkish, based on her name and the names of her family members.

      [–]philipwhiukGreater London 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (7子コメント)

      Technically the term white is a simplification of the actual category of Caucasian, which definitely includes Turkish.

      [–]CaptainAirstripOne 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

      My point is that it's not unreasonable for her to identify as non-white. We can't really invoke the technical definition of Caucasian as the term comes from pre-WW2 theories of racial science, which have been discredited. The modern use of the word is controversial.

      [–]umop_apisdn 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

      no, Turkey has always been east of the Caucasus mountains; they have always been Caucasian.

      [–]CaptainAirstripOne 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (4子コメント)

      I think the term was being used in its racial sense rather than its geographic sense.

      [–]umop_apisdn 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      what? you believe that the racial term Caucasian had nothing to do with the geographical area the Caucasus? You think that the similarity is a coincidence?

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        [–]mr_rivers1 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

        I have CFS/ME.

        It drives me crazy when people pretend to have invisible illnesses because it makes people think that people like me are faking it too.

        [–]misskjsCheshire 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

        I have CFS/ME too. That's why I try really hard not to judge.

        I'm not sure what to make of all this criticism of self-diagnosis in the thread either, because it took me a year of being disbelieved by doctors, and then another year after that to get referred to the correct service and receive a professional diagnosis.

        People know their own bodies better than anyone else. I would like to think that the majority of people wouldn't be so deceptive, for the sake of all those people who genuinely suffer.

        [–]Naggers123Lahn-Dahn Tahn 205 ポイント206 ポイント  (13子コメント)

        She's like a living caricature of tumblr

        [–]longfootUnited Kingdom 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (6子コメント)

        A lot of people are extremly annoyed about this;

        https://www.change.org/p/expel-bahar-mustafa-from-goldsmiths-university-for-criminal-misconduct-bahar-mustafa-should-be-removed-from-study-at-goldsmiths-university

        Check out the number of signatures already.

        [–]middlemanmarkThe Second City 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

        Oh Jesus that picture is literally a trigger warning

        [–]BrokenControllerHertfordshire 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

        I don't get it, she says if you're male and/or white you can't go to the meeting. Is she not white?

        [–]HasuTerasLancashire 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Nah, shes called Bahar Mustafa. I think shes Turkish. Guess that doesnt count as white *shrugs.

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          [–]RecQueryEat your cereal 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (3子コメント)

          She's very representative of the pink and blue hair brigade.

          [–]evilsalmonGreater London 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Not everyone with pink and blue hair is a shitlord.

          Shitlord (/s)

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              [–]Maoism 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (9子コメント)

              Hmm, a privileged white girl using the serious matter of social justice as an outlet for her own narcissism.

              k

              [–]Skrapion 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              But she doesn't identify as white, so therefore she doesn't benefit from white privilege.

              [–]G_MorganWales [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              I'm the palest person on the planet. I prefer to identify as a ghost rather than a white man.

              [–]CaptainAirstripOne 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              Based on her name, I think she's probably Turkish.

              [–]philipwhiukGreater London 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              You can be white and Turkish you know?

              [–]bort-thrillhoNicola Corleone says hello 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              like the fella in Snatch

              [–]gadhaboy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              Your comment is pure brilliant insight.

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                [–]SYSTEM_USER 62 ポイント63 ポイント  (15子コメント)

                Surely this is "hate speech". Why has she not been arrested?

                [–]PeterG92Essex 65 ポイント66 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                "Could"??

                If I said "kill all the black men" I'd be sacked instantly.

                [–]dbbk 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                She's an elected officer of the union, she can't be sacked, only voted out.

                [–]bigjo66 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Surely there is some kind of code of conduct ?

                [–]tsurotu 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You can call a vote of no confidence in union officers if I recall

                [–]XolaniLiverpool, Merseyside [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

                But she added the uses of hashtags such as "kill all white men" on her personal account were "in-jokes and ways that many people in the queer feminist community express ourselves".

                But it's just an in-joke among feminists, don't you see?!

                [–]rakustBitter Jock 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                There's only one way to find out

                I'll get the cross, you get the matches and petrol

                [–]SpecsaversGazaKent 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I have pitchforks.

                [–]Margate_Mod 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I'll take care of the popcorn.

                [–]lurk_in_progress 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Can we get Katie Hopkins to fight her instead of Charlotte Church? That way I'll be happy whoever loses.

                [–]RichieSMLondon 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                I kinda admire Katie Hopkins for her epic trolling skills, and Charlotte Church used to live in an apartment in the same corridor as me down Cardiff Bay (innit), and I like her chavvy nature, so I'm kinda opposed to this.

                This girl vs Nigel Farage though? FIGHT!

                [–]bloodguard 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                You'd have to think that if she'd used #killall[insert anything other than white men] from a work twitter account she would have had her desk boxed up and been frog marched out into the parking lot within hours.

                Ms Mustafa adds that she has received racist and sexist abuse and death threats since the "media storm".

                Since she's started spinning up the shrill "I'm a victim" machine I'm going to predict that sadly she's not going to get bounced from her job.

                [–]oddun 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                People actually think like this....

                https://twitter.com/sophwilkinson/status/600710367950540800

                [–]cabaretcabaret 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                I don't understand what she means. The high male suicide rate means that white men should commit suicide?

                [–]oddun 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Nor do I.

                Maybe I'm missing some nuance, but that just seems like the rambling of an imbecile.

                [–]MyL1ttlePwnys 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                And she is a "journalist" (Blogging random events without understanding the proper framing or investigation) The only thing committing suicide after that tweet is my brain cells from that jumble of letters almost recreating that which looks like words.

                [–]EmergencyUnderwear 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                She's saying that the very high male:female ratio for suicide is a result of sexism, so men should be concerned about sexism.

                This is fine, but she seems to think it's a reason why we should be OK with the plonker in TFA, which makes no sense at all.

                [–]CainedbutableBuckinghamshire 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Looks like she's deleted her tweet so here it is for anyone that missed it: http://i.imgur.com/Gul6O0w.png

                [–]SDSSJ102915172927 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                I'm friends with this black nationalist girl, full on black seperatist. Very small minority though, I've never met someone who actually says "I hate white men" or whatever. My black nationalist friend will talk about white supremecy but she can't hate all white men because she keeps me around on her FB. I meet a few feminists, social justice advocates and so on but I've never met one of these "kill all white men" cariacatures

                [–]longfootUnited Kingdom 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                I've never met one of these "kill all white men" cariacatures

                Psssst. Hey genius, perhaps they don't talk like that around you because you're a white guy. Just a brain wave.

                [–]Margate_Mod 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                I'm getting "page doesn't exist".

                [–]InvalidwordWest Midlands 45 ポイント46 ポイント  (16子コメント)

                She's not the only one as well, at staffordshire university we had the chair woman of the woman society say that the men of the university weren't allowed to have a mens' society as it would be "dangerous".

                [–]LightningGeekWolves 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                Swansea had a good campaign in my last year. The current (at the time) Woman's officer decided to join in a campaign against one of the nominee's because she wasn't being serious enough. The girl was basically running a satirical campaign by making a 1950's housewife version of the role. It was a very clear to everyone, unless they kind of raging moron who would ban society hoodies that say things like "Geography students do it in the field" because they're apparently the most offensive things around.

                [–]sastarbucksUnited Kingdom 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                In my experience they usually did it on caswell.

                [–]merlinhoGlamorgan 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Or Singleton Park...or maybe that was just the flashers.

                [–]Look_Alive 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                Oh yeah, they also tried to ban The Sun being sold at the university, due to Page Three.

                Not the smartest move at one of the most respected journalism universities in the country...

                [–]Muzer0Hampshire 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                Playing Devil's Advocate here, "The Sun" and "Respected journalism" don't exactly go hand in hand ;)

                [–]fact_hunt 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                It's the most read paper in the country; not spending some time analysing it, whilst on a journalism course, would seem a little odd

                [–]PugzM 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                No but I think the the newspaper in question was irrelevant. It was the banning / censorship of the written word where the irony is present. :)

                [–]Muzer0Hampshire 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                Indeed, I agree. I just thought the way it was phrased was kind of funny ;)

                [–]MrEManFTW 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                They banned the sun from UEA and yorkie bars but refused to ban girly mags with naked guys in. They also banned Starbucks and Tate&Lyle stuff xD

                [–]KipackNewcastle upon Tyne 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                Was this relatively recently? I remember there being some stuff being similar a couple of years ago.

                [–]InvalidwordWest Midlands 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                couple months back, can't remember exactly when but it was this academic year.

                [–]HasuTerasLancashire 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                We had the same thing at Keele. People tried to remove the Mens representative from the SU.

                [–]quistodesExeter 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                I don't get why some unions have so many different officers. Exeter only has five sabbatical officers, one of which is for welfare and diversity. We manage to avoid all the crazy

                [–]Ryan2468Leicestershire [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                Gives them something to do. A title for the CV.

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                  [–]imthegoddamnbatman-Argyll and Bute 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  "us people of colour"

                  Bitch, you're white.

                  [–]davie18Newcastle Uni 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Could lose her job? Surely she absolutely definitely should?!

                  [–]ignatiusorllyScotland/United Kingdom 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Top tip for Goldsmiths University: don't hire a racist as a diversity officer.

                  [–]lolhaibai 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                  Why the fuck on earth is racism in quotes?

                  [–]RichieSMLondon 43 ポイント44 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                  She can't be racist because she's a slight brown colour.

                  She can't be sexist either because she's not one of those men things.

                  [–]bluescrn 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  It's easy to laugh at the stupidity of it, but this logic is spreading at a worrying rate - spread by otherwise fairly moderate and polite 'celebrity activists'.

                  [–]wOlfLisKLeicestershire. Yes, the Midlands are a thing. 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Ah, Anita. Half the posts on /r/Kotakuinaction involve her and her bullshit. I wish this whole "SJW" thing would shrivel up and die.

                  [–]Stormphoenix82Sutton 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Not sure why you're being downvoted, agree with gamergate or not, Anita is a massive embarrassment to both sides.

                  [–]northern_crusaderYorkshire 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Two of those "I can't be racist or sexist because I am a black woman" fruitcakes made it onto BBC's Big Question show a couple of months ago. Thankfully the audience was having none of it.

                  [–]SDSSJ102915172927 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  It's because the academic definition of racism and sexism is used differently to the social definition. I'm not sure why they don't say "institutional racism" and "racial prejudice" to differentiate between the two outside of academic discussions though

                  [–]inawordnoBrummie 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Because it is a redefinition they are after. Plus some of these people are not academics. They've read a blog post and are now experts.

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                    [–]frymasterEdinburgh 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    There is a specific technical definition which supports this, but people who try to contradict those speaking everyday English with jargon definitions are just making fools of themselves

                    [–]Brimshae 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    So all I have to do is spend a couple of weeks in the tanning bed and nothing I say or do will be racist?

                    Sweet!

                    [/s]

                    [–]RichieSMLondon 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                    You don't need the /s here, friend. British people know sarcasm when they see it.

                    [–]SpecsaversGazaKent 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    We're in trouble if Farage gets a tan then.

                    [–]Othersideofthemirror 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    'I can't be racist because I'm an ethnic minority woman', says Goldsmiths university diversity officer Bahar Mustafa - Evening Standard.

                    [–]ampqreScotland 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    anyone wants to sign that change.org petition they talk about but don't link to

                    [–]EwanWhoseArmyCumberland 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    I think she has started trolling

                    [–]RichieSMLondon 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    The extreme leftist version of Katie Hopkins.

                    [–]WillaemannPlymuff init mate 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    I'd love to see those two debate eachother.

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                      [–]bananasfk 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      Can i use 'jazz hands' now ?

                      [–]careinthecommunityYeller belly in cheshire 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Only if you dress up in black face, or something..

                      [–]UNSKIALzNorthern Ireland 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Gah, I'm triggered!

                      [–]AtomicMonkeyTheFirst 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                      Hashtag Daddyissues.

                      [–]RichieSMLondon 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                      #penisenvy

                      [–]AtomicMonkeyTheFirst 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      How did you get a hashtag to work?

                      When I try it it always goes

                      like this.

                      [–]jimmycarr1Wales 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                      Do a \ before it

                      \#like this

                      [–]creamyjoshyStraight Outta Surrey 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                      How did you get that to work? We must find the end of this.

                      [–]wOlfLisKLeicestershire. Yes, the Midlands are a thing. 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      To show the first \ you type \\#likethis

                      [–]RichieSMLondon 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Escape the hash symbol with a \ backslash. You can click "source" on my post to see how I did it.

                      [–]GetsDrunkSendsTexts 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (23子コメント)

                      If this is the future of progressive politics then consider me a social conservative. I'm not, of course, but this has got me with wondering.

                      [–]bluescrn 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                      The far left is the new far right

                      [–]Lather 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                      This isn't really far left, this is radical left.

                      [–]bort-thrillhoNicola Corleone says hello 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      This isn't radical left, this is stupid

                      [–]zstarsCheltenham 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Radical anything is stupid.

                      [–]AKindOfWildJustice [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                      Speaking for myself, I found I had to discard the left -v- right model of politics some time back. The one I have now goes something like;

                      'Live and let live' -v- 'Demands a stranglehold over everything you think, say and do'.

                      From that point of view, this weirdo and Cameron with his "Obeying the law is not enough" are on different wings of the same side.

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                        [–]SDSSJ102915172927 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (14子コメント)

                        If a few nutters on the internet are enough to stop you being socially progressive then you probably weren't as progressive as you thought IMO. To change your own politics out of spite, or because of other people, suggests you don't actually know what your politics are and are just going with what's the popular narrative.

                        [–]GetsDrunkSendsTexts 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                        You've misunderstood my point. I'm very much a social progressive and that won't change. However, if this tumblrite SJW "you can't be racist against white people", "check your privilege" bullshit becomes the new progressive politics, by that new standard I would be considered a social conservative as I'm against it.

                        [–]SDSSJ102915172927 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                        However, if this tumblrite SJW "you can't be racist against white people", "check your privilege" bullshit becomes the new progressive politics

                        Redditors spend too much time on the internet. Once you get off the internet, you realise these people are for the most part, a fringe minority of teenage girls who don't actually have any influence in the real world.

                        Ask anybody in the real world if they can even tell you what a "SJW" is. They couldn't. These people are not taken seriously anywhere outside of their own circles, but people spend so much time on the internet they think they're actually some sort of big deal. It's hilarious

                        [–]Stormphoenix82Sutton 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Might wanna stop by the folks in KotakuInAction, they have endless problems with some very wealthy and influential SJW's in the gaming industry. It's not very powerful in other RL circles though, I admit.

                        [–]GetsDrunkSendsTexts 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        Well yeah but these are labels for the Internet face of this thinking. It hasn't just spawned on tumblr, the concept of "the patriarchy" and a lot of the social theory come from the nuttier social sciences. Student unions are infested with it. It does exist in real life.

                        [–]Othersideofthemirror 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        This is mainstream now. You can find articles in the broadsheet press about these people. Just today The Guardian ran a piece from a gender studies professor who was saying she will not use trigger warnings.

                        Nick Cohen, Julie Bindel and Peter Tatchell have also written articles about identity politics and the authoritarian left.

                        All can be found on /r/idpolitics

                        [–]RiktenkayNarfuk, living in Notts 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        I don't think he was suggesting a change to his own politics, just a change as to how they're being labelled.

                        [–]rawcyManchester 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        But she added the uses of hashtags such as "kill all white men" on her personal account were "in-jokes and ways that many people in the queer feminist community express ourselves".

                        MISANDRY IS FUNNY GUYS STOP OPPRESSING US

                        [–]BrawndoTTM 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                        The really funny part is that, according to the rules SJWs seem to play by, you are responsible for what your ancestors did. Therefore, as a Turk, she is personally responsible for the Armenian genocide and needs to check her fucking privilege. I wonder how she would feel if I, as an Armenian, were to start tweeting #KillAllTurks. By her own logic, it would not be racist for me to do so.

                        [–]northern_crusaderYorkshire 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Would pay to see.

                        [–]PreacherjonsonWakey 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Looking at it, she should really have lost her job when she began segregating the community in the first place.

                        [–]whole_scottish_milk 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                        She should also be charged with hate speech.

                        [–]cwhd 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Could?!

                        [–]AntonioOfVenice 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (64子コメント)

                        Ah, Bahar Mustafa strikes again. It seems like criticism of certain religions is labeled "racism" nowadays, while calls for genocide are perfectly fine, as long as the targets are people the PC police defines as "oppressors".

                        If you're interested, here is video by Sargon of Akkad mocking one of her earlier... speeches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US1ipNlsGYY

                        [–]gadhaboy 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (29子コメント)

                        I think you may be reading too much into this mate. She's obviously a twit and is being exposed as one.

                        [–]AntonioOfVenice 40 ポイント41 ポイント  (28子コメント)

                        Actually, this is only the latest of a series of 'missteps' of hers. First, she announced that no white men would be permitted to attend a diversity meeting. Then she took this picture of herself: https://d22r54gnmuhwmk.cloudfront.net/photos/9/rf/hr/NorFhrBKkFFtjvP-800x450-noPad.jpg

                        And then she held a speech where she asserted that "people of colour" can't be racist (that's what I linked to). At that point, she still had a lot of supporters. See the crowd. Hell, there was even a petition defending her.

                        [–]gadhaboy 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                        That picture makes it obvious she's an attention-starved ass trying hard to be "edgy". Whatever the case she's pretty much destroyed all future career prospects for herself. I guess you play with fire you get burned.

                        [–]AntonioOfVenice 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                        Whatever the case she's pretty much destroyed all future career prospects for herself.

                        Actually, she did that by pursuing a Gender Studies degree.

                        [–]YellowbenzeneGlasgow 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                        She'll get a job writing for the Guardian

                        [–]TheJungleVIPCapital Of Glorious Sturgeon Empire 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        "Writing"

                        [–]physicsandcode 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                        Na she'll be a freelancer, not wanting to be tied down by the oppressive nature of a regular job which constrains her personality. All she'll be getting is thrown £100 every couple of months writing a Comment is Free article everyone will bitch about.

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                          [–]brokegamerchannelCheshire cat 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          Isn't she white though? I mean, I don't see race so I can't be sure but I think she's white.

                          [–]umop_apisdn 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          ah, but she "self identifies" as brown. (I know, it is ridiculous)

                          [–]jkfgrynyymuliyp 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          She's of Turkish extraction iirc. In terms of appearance I suppose it could go either way coming from anywhere on the Mediterranean but it looks like she sticks to the single drop rule.

                          [–]geniice -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (13子コメント)

                          And then she held a speech where she asserted that "people of colour" can't be racist (that's what I linked to). At that point, she still had a lot of supporters. See the crowd.

                          In fairness this usually comes from using a definition of racist that ties it into a system of power. In effect the argument is that a person of colour can be bigoted on the grounds of race but that doesn't make them racist (although presumably Arabs in Saudi Arabia could be racist against non Arabs). Obviously this hits the problem that most people define racism as discrimination on the grounds of race regardless of who is doing it and who is on the receiving end.

                          It is also tactically foolish since its even harder to change something when you've defined it as something that by definition can't effect the most powerful group going.

                          [–]michaelnoirScotland 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          The problem with the "racism is prejudice plus power" definition is that it leads to absurd conclusions. Does it mean, for instance, that if I called a black policeman in South Africa or Zimbabwe a racial epithet it wouldn't be racist? After all, 1. I'm a minority in that country. 2. He has more power than me. Or have we take into account all historical and global imbalances in power as well? Am I somehow to blame for the crimes of my forefathers (despite the fact that my forefathers were poor Scottish and Irish farmers who as far as I know didn't oppress anyone)? You can see what absurd consequences result from this idea taken to its logical conclusion.

                          It's an idea from American college campuses which has leaked over here. The Tumblr people are in fact very sheltered middle class youngsters who have latched onto a half-understood feminism and identity politics as a means of self-aggrandisement.

                          [–]JameslepableLiverpool 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                          In fairness this usually comes from using a definition of racist that ties it into a system of power.

                          Which is a definition they made to suit their narrative.

                          Racism according to Google is;

                          the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

                          Which is the definition that pretty much everyone else uses.

                          [–]ryuhadoken 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Why do people use this version of racism though, as oppossed to the normal one that everyone else accepts?

                          [–]Work_McGurk 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          changing the definition to suit their own argument I reckon

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                            [–]cubist_castle 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            This is completely ridiculous.

                            But she added the uses of hashtags such as "kill all white men" on her personal account were "in-jokes and ways that many people in the queer feminist community express ourselves".

                            I mean fine, maybe there's some context there that I'm missing - I've made jokes to people I know well that would probably sound pretty offensive out of context. But I didn't share them with people that wouldn't get the context, like say the whole internet.

                            I wouldn't say I feel offended or oppressed by her making jokes about executing my entire gender/race, but I do think it's ludicrous for her to remain in charge of anything, let alone anything with "diversity" in the title.

                            [–]PeterG92Essex 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            In Jokes, you know, the same type that the KKK would make if they had twitter.

                            [–]Mithious 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                            If I was running this university she would have been kicked out entirely by now, not just "potentially losing her student's union job".

                            [–]apr400 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                            In practice, almost impossible to achieve within a modern British university.

                            [–]j4jylMerseyside 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Sometimes you dig yourself a hole and then it gets really difficult to stop digging.

                            [–]northern_crusaderYorkshire 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Difference is that most people doing that tend to continue to use the same spade, not go to JCB and ask for the biggest excavator they have.

                            [–]spunkymarimba 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            She should lose her 'job'.

                            [–]DEADB33FNottinghamshire 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Is it coz I is black?

                            ...Are we 100% sure this girl isn't just Sacha Baron Cohen in drag?

                            [–]UNSKIALzNorthern Ireland 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            ...The fact that she hasn't been let go already is quite concerning indeed.

                            [–]bearjuaniAberystwyth 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Good riddance.

                            Honestly, I don't even care if it was ironic or sarcastic or whatever she uses as a defense, if your job is to handle sensitive equality issues and you're publicly saying stuff like this something is very wrong with you.

                            [–]elgraf 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            I love the way it's 'could lose job'.

                            If a white guy had tweeted 'kill all non-white women' there would be no 'could' about it - they would already be arrested.

                            [–]HalkLanarkshire 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                            I think it's worth noting that the Guardian have not reported on this at all.

                            Every other news outlets have at the very least reported on her "banning white people" from an event.

                            The Guardian are choosing not to report on it.

                            [–]RiktenkayNarfuk, living in Notts 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            The Guardian is rife with this sort of bullshit. It's a sad state of affairs as it was one of the only papers I could take remotely seriously. Not really the case any more.

                            [–]Tallis-man 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                            Since when have controversial figures in student politics made national news?

                            Other newspapers are reporting it because it appeals to their editorial line of lefty-students and PC garbage, not because it's intrinsically newsworthy.

                            [–]ThanksCrystals 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            She is also accused of oppressing the voices of disabled people during a recent occupation - something she, "as a disabled woman", denies.

                            I'd really like to know more about this story. Who did she allegedly oppress, and how?
                            Granted, I'm not really giving her the benefit of the doubt; it's just that given what's she's already done and how she's defended it, I'm curious as to how far she might've gone. Full-on "no cripples please" would not surprise me at this point.

                            [–]CardiffBorn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                            NoFX fan?

                            [–]lbspredh [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                            how are you going to kill all white men? we have all the power remember?

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