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[–]Twitch-Plays-Pokemon -13 ポイント-12 ポイント  (91子コメント)

The rules are in the description, they apply to you, I'm sorry if you didn't understand or thought you were above them.

Just because you wanted to move on didn't mean you had to destroy the run for other people.

[–]ProjectRevolutionTPPtpp staff kind of sort of 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (33子コメント)

Except "attempting to disrupt the function of the server" cannot be in effect when the individual does not have knowledge of assuredness that the game was patched or not.

I sent the fix DAYS ago and have assumed it was applied (eventually), are you just going to leave it like this until damn near the end of the game?

This is unjustifyable and you are too quick to judge.

[–]TheObserver99 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[grabs popcorn]

[–]ariamoriᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

in the future, i really hope my great-grandchildren get to see this

[–]frumpy4 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

if soap doesn't kill you by then

[–]Lolnoobss 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Even REVO is challenging streamer-senpai? Is this for real?

[–]kingkuya777DEKU TO COMPETE | dig_on_rotom_07 | select sect deIlluminati 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

now we need /u/dekunukem

[–]DOHboy0KURIBU CATCH! 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow Deku

[–]Chaos_lordYukari's ex ex ex? 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The revolution is at hand commrade. A free stream for the working class poster, overturn the bourgeois streamers and instate a fair steam for all men.

[–]tustin2121Shorts are comfy and easy to wear! 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Revo is at odds with streamer about various things all the time. That's kind of become his de facto job: arguing for things to be implemented on the stream. Streamer usually has other work to do than babysit the stream that's supposed to run itself, so Revo is constantly on him to do things that don't get done.

[–]wfa19Guys we need to ____ 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes but this is an exploit that could ruin the entire run. For streamer not to patch it is ludicrous in all sense of the word.

[–]tustin2121Shorts are comfy and easy to wear! 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't disagree with this. There's only so far I'm willing to try and justify the streamer's actions.

[–]TheObserver99 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

B-but streamer can't have a life, that's not allowed!

[–]BloatedCreeper 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, this is a very blind implementation of the rule. This scenario is far too complicated to simply dish out permabans.

[–]ChauzuTPP Truthsayer <3 punWaifu[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is true that nothing had happened if the glitch had been patched in the first place, which makes me really sad...

I assumed revo had messed the patch up, but if it wasnt implemented l apologize. That is a big shame.

[–]Chaos_lordYukari's ex ex ex? 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I would like to note, from a viewer perspetive, it was not 100% clear it had not been patched. we only have Revo's messages to go on and sometimes people aren't on at the time to hear them. It was well known that the patch exists, and there was 1 time where it could have been applied (the break when touhou got stuck on cycling road). Chauzu also ensured a save beforehand so any damage would be minimal.

Maybe ensuring the game is a fixed as possible while making it clear when and what things are not (the streams description should definitely be used for this) would have been prudent instead of leaving the patch sitting for 4 days until this happened....

[–]Lolnoobss -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

^ Impeach Revo Impeach Streamer too??

BabyRage

[–]VerbumDei 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (10子コメント)

This is an extremely callous thing to suddenly do. There have been countless times people have abused game mechanics without bans (Battle Tent, Entralink Spam, etc). We've had our fair share of "New Games" as well. Some of which we even managed to save. You've managed to revert it, and even some of the crazy Battle Tent stuff. But now suddenly this is a perma-bannable offense? The run wouldn't have been lost. It didn't even require any save file changes on your end - just a game reset since we didn't get too far.

[–]TheObserver99 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If the game had been saved after hitting "new game," then the original run would have been lost. Apparently.

[–]GlitcherRednot a tester, only a glitcher 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The game stores two different saves apparently, but it could be troublesome to recover the hidden savefile, which would be gone after a second save anyways.

[–]Cyanderᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm sorry I don't know gen 3

7.8/10 too much apparently

[–]GlitcherRednot a tester, only a glitcher 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Problem is, we don't really have save backups or save states anymore.

[–]tustin2121Shorts are comfy and easy to wear! 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Which is insanely stupid. We know the streamer had periodic save state previously, during the initial Red run, and yet now he doesn't?! This is freaking TPP where anything can happen to the game, and ESPECIALLY this second season where glitching out seems to be the norm! Save states should happen every minute and copied off into an archive somewhere with the amount of glitching these rom hacks cause on a regular basis!! >.<

[–]GlitcherRednot a tester, only a glitcher 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I heard streamer saying the auto-savestate function was broken and there were no save states ever since.

[–]tustin2121Shorts are comfy and easy to wear! 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was under the impression that that meant he was going to attempt to fix it at some point...

[–]VerbumDei 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is this true? During our last run, AR, we majorly fucked ourselves with Battle Tent and streamer had to restore a previous save file and it worked just fine (although we lost all our money). Why the sudden change now?

[–]GlitcherRednot a tester, only a glitcher 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There weren't backup saves in AR. That's why Revo had to hack in HELP instead.

[–]Lolnoobss -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just read one thing it is CALLOUS

Yeah pretty much this

[–]pigdevil2010pigu pls 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Just because you wanted to move on didn't mean you had to destroy the run for other people.

Ban me for making a broken Battle Tent in Anniversary Red then.

[–]czerwona_latarnia100% Douchebag 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

IMPEACH PIGU

[–]sohippyFake Wattson#TPPLeague 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Time to make another one?

[–]TheObserver99 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Oh pigu, that's not gonna get you anywhere, and it misses the point.

Chauzu was banned because he (among others, who were also banned) inputted down+a during democracy in the title menu, to select "new game" instead of "continue." This was considered intentional disruption of the stream, which has been against the rule since people conspired to kill modbot during AR.

That rule seems to have been applied pretty consistently - no sense in getting all attacky about it.

BUT there is a worthwhile discussion to be had here - should that have been a perma-bannable offense or not? Perhaps all those people should now be sitting on 3-day bans, rather than permanent ones?

[–]GlitcherRednot a tester, only a glitcher 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd agree on a ban until the end of the current run, or if it's during intermission, until the start of the next run.

[–]wfa19Guys we need to ____ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd agree on the ban if all the people who went into the battle tent after the first time, tried to use the PC during democracy to release Pokemon, and inputted down during the credits to attempt to start a new game were banned. This is unprecedented and makes me wonder if streamer is just out to get Chauzu.

[–]ChauzuTPP Truthsayer <3 punWaifu[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Nah don't worry about that everyone that inputted downa was banned (afaik).

[–]BloatedCreeper 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Was banned, can confirm lol

[–]wfa19Guys we need to ____ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was talking about during previous runs after the end of the Elite 4

[–]ChauzuTPP Truthsayer <3 punWaifu[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Sad to see you have misunderstood the whole situation, let me know if you would be happy to hear my side of the story.

If not, bye and good luck in the future.

[–]Wraithdagger12 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Don't disrupt the functioning of the stream"

Sooo, we're not allowed to perform even known glitches in games? Say we're playing Vanilla Red and we manage to perform the glitch that teleports us to the hall of fame area (effectively ending the game). Almost no one was playing last night; someone could have jumped on democracy and with a few alt accounts quickly done something properly malicious, but testing to see if a rom hack is broken is worth a perma ban?

This stream is losing players as is. I'm not saying anyone should break the rules or break the stream, but completely removing people for playing the game their way is akin to removing trolls for inhibiting progress. All this does is get people upset and drive more people away.

[–]beefhash 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The rules are in the description

The rules

Please do excuse me, but you can't seriously expect people to follow every last one of your whims when adding to the rules without any announcement whatsoever whenever you're on your period. Disrupting up the stream's operation has been perfectly fine until the past few runs where fun became outlawed.

[–]ProjectRevolutionTPPtpp staff kind of sort of 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the lack of transparency that bothers me. I'm not entirely convinced that it's his own volition that set those rules and instead Twitch staff told him the chat needed more moderation.

[–]PastelDeUvaGrowl~ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

"The rules are in the description" The rules should cover all possible scenarios, and display the exact punishment that one gest for infringing each of them. If not, you must at least be able to prove that there is a code that you apply the same way for everyone who violates the rules (with the ocassional exceptions that should also be coded), or you risk being accused of arbitrariness.

Also, I for one think the punishment is a tiny bit excesive, specially if we are talking about a first-time-infringement (I don't really know if it is). A week/month ban or a until-the-run-ends ban would have been acceptable, but a permaban...

[–]tustin2121Shorts are comfy and easy to wear! 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Rules are never going to cover all possible scenarios. Not when we manage to find ways to screw up the game or stream every time we do it.

That said, permaban does seem a bit excessive...

[–]PastelDeUvaGrowl~ 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, yes, there are too many possible scnearios to cover every single one of them. What I mean is, scenarios can be covered with a bit of generalization.

A rule that says "Trying to destroy an entire run, whatever the means you use to achieve is, equals a permaban" would cover it and more.

[–]wfa19Guys we need to ____ 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But if trying to destroy a run equals a permaban, there goes half the chat.

[–]Murgie 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just because you wanted to move on didn't mean you had to destroy the run for other people.

Said the man consistently regarded as ruining the fun for other people.