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OK /out/, you've got to spend a week in the wild in your part of the world.You're allowed five items. No food allowed, there is a(n unpurified) water source.What are you taking with you?
>>510172Ohio>tent or hammock>large wool blanket>rainfly>pot like 2qrt stainless cylinder with a screw on lid.>knifeI'd really like a 6th item though, I'd also take my ar15. Otherwise those 5. I intend to be comfy.
>>516345Never mind, I'm going to say the tent includes a rainfly.>tent>pot>blanket>knife>lighterIt's Ohio man, it's like perfection. I wanted the gun for squirrels but fuck it, I'll just fasten the knife to a stick and spear them. Or maybe I'll kill a goose. I could kill a goose, fucking dumb staring at you like an asshole shitting every where geese. If shit ever hits the fan, I'm gonna live off geese for a while. I can kill them easy.
>>510172Water purifierWool blanketAxeBIC/ferro rodFishing kitIf it was longer than a week I'd take a stainless steel water bottle instead of water purifier.>>514270>So which Mira should I buy?Companion. The handle is more comfortable and the sheath has a better belt clip.
leatherman multi toolflinttarpropesteel water bottle
NorCal USA>bot (bottle pot)>carpenter's hatchet>multitool>tent (the kind with separate rainfly)>magnesium rod w/ striker
What's the most dangerous animal you've ever encountered in the wild, /out/? Most dangerous encounter:>Be hiking in hills and hollers of northern Missouri. >Reach portion of trail covered in dried leaves.>Always think 'this is exactly where a timber rattler would be'>keep going>*shake shake rattle* *rustle*>stop dead in tracks>see pic related 10 feet ahead of me.>NOPE the fuck out of there.Most dangerous animal:>Seen tons of gators while hiking on trails along rivers in southern Arkansas and northern Louisiana. >The people out in the middle of Cajun nowhere scare me more.Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>512270srsly though. I'm MOST afraid of other humans.When I fall asleep with my hand wrapped around a knife it's not because bears, I'm imagining being run upon by a fucking crazy person trying to steal my things or my life.
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>>514976Your indoors is showing.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfM1N9_QZeA
>>512574> WW2 hand grenade> in a forest where there was a massive battle recently> WW2> recentlyCare to explain?
>>514840You should have attempted to convert them to Islam and then slaughtered them if they refused.
weirdest shit you ran into innawoods
>>514520bullshit
>>513133I found an abandoned complex on the road side near a forest. Later, the same day, i returned to the complex and discovered it unlocked. My 2 friends and i brought airsoft guns with us because we were between the ages of 12-15. There were dead rats and racoons around and inside the buildings. The toilet still worked even though the water was black and molded. In one of the 3 buildings that we entered, there was a mirror that a friend of a friend had told me a story about. This mirror was allegedly covered in blood from a suicidal heroin junky that slit his wrists and bled over the mirror. I didn't believe it until i found a huge mirror in a especially moldy back room, covered in dried black/red crust. Nobody had yet checked the main building which had the most rooms and land occupation yet, but we decided it was safe to smoke the dank memes. After we had smoked the dank all of us went to the first house. The front door was locked so we circled back to the rear entrance, this was locked as well, so we broke a window and a friend went inside[14]. [14] unlocked the door and we all entered, there were 3 of us: myself(12), 14, 15.The back room is where we entered once the door was opened, on the right and left of the room were doors bordered perpendicular to the foundation walls of the house, these doors led to other rooms. In the room we stood there was a trap door in the corner between the walls with doors [trap door was at the intercept}. The air was thick with what i now know is the smell of asbestos, mold, mildew, dead animal, and dust. It was pretty disgusting so we covered our faces with the collars of our shirts and moved into the right door/room.There was nothing special about this room, this is where [14] had broken the window and climbed in. Another door was to the left of where we entered, this led to the final room we would brave.ContBTW this is OC.
>>513147Holy shit did you find that in Delph woods in Dorset?
>>514518>mfw you found Thor's hammer
>>5164362The third room is why i'll never go back, absolute shit. The smell of death, mold, asbestos, and wood rot was 5x worse than our initial entry. Even with our faces covered the stench penetrated our perception with palpable viscosity. Just now as i write, the smell haunts my senses, urging me with a passionately impetuous, cringing, feeling.In the corner to my left there was an antique rocking chair and a foot stool, on the foot stool ,there lay in pieces, a mutilated, rotting, dissected cat/dog/possum[im not sure what it was]. Once entered the chair room, i heard what sounded like a clawing, or growling but for only a second before i sprinted through 14 and 15 back out side with them on my heels. At that point we walked home, content that we would explore more some other day, which we did.2 days later, on a school day, we returned to the spooky house with shovels and a 4" switch blade. We entered the back room together and tried the left door and discovered it locked, which meant that we would have to go through chair room to enter other side. Nobody wanted to enter the chair room, that was out of question, never again. Instead, 14 and i opened the trap door together, because we were pussies. There was nothing special that happened from this, no smell, no sound, no hallucination from fear, just a stair case leading down 1 flight into a dark underground, and a wall made of cinder blocks that didn't quite connect with the first floor.Neither 14 nor 15 would dare enter the pit first because they feared i would close the trap door on them, so i went instead. The stairs were strong, no mold or rot beyond a kept house. The first 3 steps brought my vision flush with the foundations underbelly, siting atop the cinder block wall was a teddy bear positioned to look directly at the staircase directly ahead. This didn't stop me, i continued down the stairs into the dark[with no flashlight, i was 12]. I guess what i was seeing is a bathroom, a closetcont
Any /out/ related movies on netflix?Im looking for something to stream right now
>>515942Crossing a canyon? You're seriously overthinking this
>>515929>>515935he also faked something with a bear
killing season
>>515779Not talking about the meme film, it brings up tons of other nature shows
>>515852>This nigger tried to push a clearly PS2 quality rendering of big foot as "possibly real". He's either a con man or retardedwhat does the quality of the photo have to do with it? People who believe in big foot are retarded, period.
Whats your opinion of setting up a tarp like this?I have to start going ultra light due to back issues>old fagI was thinking I'd set it up like this and then use my pack as a wind break at the entrance
>>515513Dude I have a TENT and somehow managed to get 2 spiders and a cricket in that bitch in a whole 30 seconds leaving the door open to grab something. I don't even wanna know how many creepy crawlies I would be sleeping with if I left my front door open all night.
>>515598>not doing birch bark origami when /out/
>>515507>Wont protect against bugs.>Allows walking protein into your home.>Can't make a fire inside.>Makes a fantastic smoking hut.>Ground will be freezing.>You'll be making love to mother earthWhat if I build a small cook fire at the entrance?Wouldn't that solve most of those problems?Smoke helps disperse bugs and deter "protein" --whatever the fuck that meansAnd Help warm up the tarp
>>515496I've used that configuration and even with the entrance open it didn't seem to ventilate very well and got quite humid in there. Easy to set-up though.
>>516425barring easy things like mosquito netting and bathtub floors, yup. that'd kinda mostly help. it's the old debate of a couple extra ounces vs some extra effort. not who you're responding to, but i'm figuring out where i stand on it as well. bugs come in thick where i am, and biters like my blood. i'd love to go just tarp, but the degraded rest quality of getting bitten and having to run a fire makes my decision for me. some day. i'd love to get the skills to figure an origami solution that gives me a floor and a doorway, even if it takes a slightly heavier tarp. again: some day.
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>>516111This depends on your climate. What part of the country you live? Please specify city if possible.>>516123For some people, like those in the Southwest, that wild flower mix won't fly well. You need to keep it wet for the seeds to sprout which is usually very difficult cause everything dries so fast. And it will look like shit by mid-Summer probably.
what is this? there are a lot on my property. peels and looks like an onion when cut in half, but is really starchy. apparently these have flowered before, but i never was around to see them. not like onion flowers though
>>516432i should add, that the bulb never shows itself above the soil.
>>516432I'm a self-confessed bit of a newb, but if you live in the western US, there's a good chance that it's chamas. The trick: wait until spring to check the flowers so you know whether it's "Death Chamas" or not. If not = sweet and tasty when cooked. Or it could be something mundanely tasty like wild onion. Hopefully that's enough to get you started on the interwebs.
>>516432Looks an awful lot like an iris
Anyone got a packing list for someone wanting to walk the whole thing from Georgia to Maine?
>>516413 The reason is quite simple in the End, carrying a heavy load for any great lenght sucks, and hiking is supposed to be fun.
>>516427shhh. let him spend all his autismbux on a 200 liter internal frame pack filled with machetes and canned food
>>516421>>516428>ad hominem>i'm better than youhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2x7yBwtWYg>>516427Yeah, probably not going to do it but I'd like to. I hope to see how unbearable it is for myself on some short trips first... personal preference and all that. It's not like I can't ditch/give out food along the way anyway.
>>516430to add, the argument has gone from "you have to resupply once a week">implying it's a requirementto "you're going to be slower and it's not going to be fun">implying personal preference
>>516430Give it a shot, but after looking up how much 50 pound actually is (eurofag n all that), that is sorta the maximum all your everything should Weight, without even going near UL. Besides, packing lots of necesities means less space/weight for luxury. (Coffee, something to read, to speak for myself). Not telling you to shed all weight just to do it, but there is a point of too much.
Does anyone on /out/ have a secret spot? Somewhere you like to go that almost no other people visit.Mine's a small (2000 acre) forest, I have to park 2 hours walk away, cross a motorway, follow a drainage ditch and crawl under low hanging branches until I get to an overgrown logging trail. There's a ruined woodsman hut with 30ish names and dates from 1972 to 2008 chipped into the wall. It's full of wildlife, I can walk most the old logging trails still and hear nothing but birds.
>>516188erm... no. i`m not trolling.i saw a topic about `you secret` spot. so i posted mine......
Does my backyard count? Nobody but me ever uses it, and it's surrounded by miles of woods and a very old cemetery on the other side of that hedge. I built a makeshift fire pit on the flattest part, and it's a great place to watch the stars and fireflies at night. So nice to have a place where I can pitch my tent if I don't have the time to go on a camping trip, and decompress from life. In the summer I spend more time sleeping out there than in my bed.
>>516282that's pretty sweet brah but when the zombies rise up from the grave you will not be spared.how old is the cemet'ry? wheresabouts are you?
>>516298Oh don't worry I'll have my axe polished and my nugget cosmoline'd. Cemetary is around 270 years old. I'm in Massachusetts. It's comfy as fuck once the grass grows back in the spring.
>>516330aaaaah I too am from MA and my one-trafficlight town has a few cemeteries that date to around the 1730s/40s. I love that shit!
i eat mostly canned legumes,but they are boring to eat 3 times a day,also makes me poop and fart a lot.
>>515862If you're going to eat beans that much, at least get ones that don't have shitloads of sodium added. A can of Trader Joe's beans has as much salt as a large pizza, iirc.
>>515862I don't get why people limit themselves to such bland foods for camping. Making something halfway decent is so easy and not so much more bulky...I usually camp with friends, so we have a big kettle I use to make stew with corned beef, onions, carrots and potatoes. Easy to carry, easy to make, and it's always greatly appreciated, especially in cold/rainy weather.Jerky is really cheap and easy to make even with a conventional oven at minimum with the door ajar. It lasts for weeks at room temperature in a vacuum bag. Use a strong terriyaki marinade with sesame oil and a lot of sugar.Otherwise, homemade canned/pickled vegetables/fruits are nice to eat with dried meats or hard cheeses, but tend to be a bit bulky.Carry bouillon cubes and onions, you never know what you might find innawoods that you can cookup decently with these ''seasonings''. And please, for fuck's sake, stop with the industrial premade shit, it's really all bad for you and it tastes like fucking bullshit.Give it a try...
>>516382Not OP, but the kettle thing is good with friends. I suppose that when going solo (like I'll probably have to go), you could substitute the kettle with a mess kit.I made jerky the way you describe, door ajar, lowest temp, and it developed mold in about a month. I immediately understood what was wrong: disgusting explanation ahead.I have a lot of Ikea brand zip lock bags, which I put everything in I want to make a compartment for in my EDC bag. Including my gym shoes. And I think I forgot to wash the bag before filling it with 100g of jerky I made. I eat happily away but then notice that they smell like my shoes... And then one day I take out the bag and the jerky is half-white and really soft. Also, I couldn't VACUUM seal them, I just placed them in the bags full of air.Thinnest pieces you can do (or ask at the butcher's shop) and dry them twice as long as you THINK you need to dry them. Oh well, we all learn.
>>515866>indomie mie goreng noodlesMein neger
>>516401I just moved and found them in my local grocery store.I much prefer them over the top ramen.I used to have to drive to the asian market, but not anymore!>mfw i saw them on the shelf
What are these even for?I only know that I want them
>>498479I had some NB minimalist shoes. Tried running in them, even ran on my forefeet. I shit you not that I felt every little pebble I stepped on. They became my weight training shoes from then on and they performed quite well in that facet.
>>513942Well stretching can add width but it can't add length.Honestly I'd measure your feet first to make sure you're chasing the right problem. Brannocks are actually really easy to use. They measure three things, heel to toe, heel to arch and width. The first is easy, it's just how long your foot is. The second is the little curved slider on the side, that measures the proportion of your arch (slide it up till it's cupping the ball of your foot. On any given day, my to-toe measurement is about an 11, but my arch is closer to a 12 so I think of myself as a 12 with stubby toes. Most of the time I can split the difference and go with an 11.5 but sometimes I need an 11.5 wide or a 12, depending on the boot.The flatvslider is width, just snug it up against the side of your foot. In men's typically A/B is narrow, C/D is medium and E-EEEE is wide. Basque "Wide" is about an E, whereas Merrell is usually about 2-3 E so not all wide sizes are the same.If you really are a 12.5 wide, you're not going to find much from US makers that will fit you, try some European brands. They build their boots on the EU sizing and usually round up when calculating to US sizes. The Lowa Renegade is an all leather boot that comes in a generous 12 as well as 2EE wide.
>>498479>What are these even for?Faggots.>I only know that I want them>>>/lgbt/
>>515221SecondedAnd saged : - )
>>499361>milleniaI dont think that word means what you think it means.sneakers go back a few decadesmost modern footwear goes back 100 to 200 years AT BEST and before that people wore sandals or boots or went barefoot.
Newbie Lessons Thread:Just shit you'd learned from experience that you think people should know about.>couple day backpacking>bring simple gallon jug of water>within 5 minutes of hiking a stick punctured it>rest of trip carrying a gallon jug upside downThat light plastic is no good and weak even though convenient.Anyone else have lessons learned?tips/tricks for backpacking?
>>515831You must smoke like a chimney m8. I've been in WY,MN an AK in hellacious bugs, so thick you can't breathe. Eventually only a physical barrier works like netting and long sleeves. >>516142
>open thread hoping for some good /out/ addvice>finding nothing but a bunch of assholes shitting into water and two faggots with sand in their vaginaslet's see:>always carry a candle>put out candles early, safe it as fire starters>bring at least two or three good bics, some backup like dry packed matches, then some backup for that >don't overpack, don't think: "what else could I need?" but rather "do I REALLY need this?">as already mentioned: mosquitos! they really can drive you insane. I love my hammock with integrated netting. nothing gets in there.>don't ever start carrying useless crap for others, it's their problem if they overpacked and only the weight will motivate them to think about what they really need (splitting food, water or shelter is of cause another thing)>always keep your things dry, especially if its cold
>>515575>You sound like the kind of fool whose water I shit in
>>516196I jusy know how to put a lot of smoke out from a cigar or pipe. I'm only is PA, so we just have annoying mosquitoes not ythe crazy horsefly's like those other area. Unless ist's 100% deet, bug spray doesn't work for me, and It burns my skin. I'd agree with you that a physical barrier is best. Fucking hate mosquitoes.
>>516320OP here, thanks! Yea...honestly did not expect a bitch fight especially not about taking a poop in a lake. I still am sure it's the wrong thing to do and im newb.Anyway! Thanks for the tips and keep on truckin
Seriously why shouldn't I buy a bk2?
You should not buy the BK2 if you do not like the sheath. The BK22 is the same knife but with a nylon sheath. (I find the nylon preferable.)
>>514888http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00HQNJQ1I/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?qid=1431743782&sr=8-2&pi=AC_SX200_QL40&keywords=bahco+laplander&dpPl=1&dpID=41Ad24cXy9L&ref=plSrchhere is a better option for $26US. Thats roughly 1/3 the price of the BK2.
>>516222thickness and lengths. The BK2 is 1/4 of an inch thick. They call it a sharpen pry bar. The others are much smaller.
I wonder why KaBar has to hog out those 2 holes inside the handle.
>>516415weight, it's always weight.
How dangerous are big rivers as far as currents? I know they can flow quite fast in areas even if they look slow, but is it dangerous to even go out a little ways into such rivers? Is it ever safe to swim in these rivers? Or to bathe in them? If I just waded out slowly and never got more than ~5 meters or so from shore, and walked out very slow and turned back if I felt a strong current, then would I be safe? Or is there risk of all of a sudden encountering a super strong current that would suck me away?Thanks.
The answer is always: it depends. How big are we talking? Something like the Missouri or Mississippi River is about as big as I am familiar with. I have swum in both in the summer, albeit in sections that were calm, on shoals, and in lake-like sections. They weren't inherently dangerous... no different from swimming in a big lake that has a current. Granted, some sections have a swifter current than others, but you should be familiar with how well you can swim, so just don't jump into water you can't get out of. This goes for any size river.All rivers have rapids, including giants like the Mississippi, and swimming in any rapids is inherently dangerous due to submerged rocks and the force of the current. Likewise, all rivers have slower, wider sections. Know which part of the stream you are in.Also, any river can swell up during a flood, and there are certain dangers you need to keep in mind when swimming in a stream that is flooding, such as knowing what is downstream of you, knowing what is under the water, and knowing if you are physically able to swim to shore (not as easy in a flooded stream, due to swift current and farther distance across the water). Even a small flooded creek can get pretty serious when it overflows its banks and fills up neighboring fields. Flooded rivers can often seem slower than they actually are, since you are used to seeing the river with less water in it. Many people have gotten into trouble because they swam in flooded streams and got carried downstream from the "slow" section where they got in to more dangerous rapids lower downstream.
>>516379Yes>>516381Thanks for the long answer. I am specifically interested in the Mississippi, but also rivers in general for future reference. I can swim and I'm fairly strong, but I know that rivers can have strong enough currents/rapids that even the strongest swimmers wouldn't be able to get out of. I'm just concerned about going out from shore a little ways, the river seeming calm and easy to swim in, then very suddenly encountering a rapid/current that is too strong to escape from.I am not so concerned about rocks/logs/etc hidden under water because I would be trying to avoid rapids entirely, I am just concerned about something strong enough that it would suck me underwater or away from shore with too much force to fight back and swim against.
>>516385You're thinking of riptides in an ocean. Rivers don't really have dramatically differing speeds from the top to the bottom of the water column. That said, you can find some pretty crazy shit in flood conditions. I have canoed from Kansas City to St. Charles on the Missouri River during August and that was when the water was pretty normal, but I talked to some people who did a practice float during the previous spring, when the river was flooded, and they said that they saw some pretty serious eddies (bigger than their kayaks) that could have potentially capsized them if they had gotten too close. Big rivers ARE capable of serious shit, but the point is that you'll know by just looking at it if you can swim in the water. If there are boat-sized eddies swirling around, you'll see them and the river itself will be flowing swiftly, with big logs floating down it, and it should scare you. You would never be surprised by some sort of hidden current that pulls you under, after you have evaluated the surface of the water to be calm.
>>516397Cool, that's very relieving. Thank you based anon! Have some earthporn.
Just wear a life jacket like everyone else.
Anyone been watching??Thoughts?
I just cant bring myself to watch the women. It sounds painful just hearing the comments, know it will be ten times harder actually seeing it. 90% of women in first world nations cant /out/ for shit 100% of the time.
Just finished watching the womens series. What a complete joke. Only 3-4 of them were useful and carried the entire group. Why wouldn't shelter be an immediate concern instead of building it in the last few days? Same with trying to catch fish? And they went 10 days using 1 jerry can?? It didn't occur to any of them to go wash out the discarded can, they had to be ordered to. They lost multiple fish by celebrating the catch too soon. They let a pig slip away. no doubt the piglets were dropped off by a boat in the middle of the night. The adult pig that they caught may or may not have been tied down, who knows. They had so much outside help it's hilarious that they were celebrating they way they were at the end. I bet Bear has a different view of them after watching the footage. We know that he knew what was going on but actually seeing it there's no way he can be proud. He said at the end that in 6 months they would still be thriving. IRL they would of been dead after 4 weeks. each and every one of them.
>>508631>'m starting to believe that without men, we would still be in the stone agesAround 14min in. Funny how the other women immediately tell her she shouldn't be saying that. Note, not that it isn't true, but that she should not be saying it.
>>509554No, this is the 2000s where the men are ranch hands and women make mediocre civil servants and college lecturers.
>>516404>>'m starting to believe that without men, we would still be in the stone agesweak female < weak man < average female << average man < strong female << strong man