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Is there a good flowchart to determine common fallacies?
>>6547520thisdont follow some arbitrary debate rules, just be logical
>>6547531Aren't debate rules logical?
Why do you need a flowchart for fallacies? Are you making a lecture?
>>6547520I differ. There are times when one has simply forgotten the proper name for a certain fallacy. Using resources like Wikipedia to then determine the name can take quite some time.
>>6547580Nah, I'm just interested and thought about making one myself.
What, if your view, is of a higher moral value than aesthetics?
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>>6546796idk dude, aesthetics are pretty nice
>>6546857>Ugh, maybe she enjoys it?Women don't really enjoy anal, you've been lied to by the degeneration industry, bub.
>>6547340Your mum loves it m8
>>6546796>Assthetics
When adults say, "Teenagers think they are invincible" with that sly, stupid smile on their faces, they don't know how right they are. We need never be hopeless, because we can never be irreparably broken. We think that we are invincible because we are. We cannot be born, and we cannot die. Like all energy, we can only change shapes and sizes and manifestations. They forget that when they get old. They get scared of losing and failing. But that part of us greater than the sum of our parts cannot begin and cannot end, and so it cannot fail.
>>6540450>we can never be irreparably broken. <...> we cannot dieOh really? Gee well fucking thanks. And here I was being frightened as fuck by my inevitable mortality ending my ridiculously short lifetime and all my memories, experiences and feelings. Shit, feels good knowing I'm immortal. Think I'll go play in traffic.
>>6545368>muh nationsgit mad fagget
“That everything is on fire, slow fire, and we're all less than a million breaths away from an oblivion more total than we can even bring ourselves to even try to imagine...” - The Fault in Our Stars
>>6547439i must be retarded because i can't see anything bad about this at all
I should be sleeping now (europe calling) but since it is america time I will ask you what I have always wanted to ask an American:Are your classics legit or are they hacks so cherished only because of the economic muscle of their fatherland? for instance:Poe - reads like an Indian taxi driver who has bought who has bought a dictionary.Whitman - Yes, I get it: bible style.H.P.Lovecraft - cyclopean spasmodic dreamless horror murkperhaps there's something I don't understand?
>>6547329Yes of course I have, I wouldn't be arguing with you if I hadn't
>>6547383And what motivated you to pick it up? You hadn't heard anything about it being a difficult book, or the fact that a lot of people can't get through it, or wonder if you could yourself?
>>6542068>>Wallace Stevens
>>6542292I'll mash your banger if you don't watch your fucking lip m8.That said, this thread is retarded
>>6544379Mostly unread isn't opinion - most people haven't read Joyce.
Friday night, bitches!
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>>6546216>MalibuEw. The memebook and the chinese comic book don't make it any better either.
Is the Cambridge Latin course any good? If not, what else should I use?
Is hedonism the only sensible outlook in our scientifically advanced times?
>>6539546frank yang has been doing a self-aware conceptual version of it for years
>>6542998Isn't the idea that the brain builds up tolerance for chemicals (including seratonin/dopamine) universally accepted at this point?
>>6547093Equilibrium meaning equilibrium. Chemical balance. Peace.
>>6547289It is.
>>6539586Shame on you anon, Chinese revolt was a fucking peasant revolution
I find it difficult to become invested in almost any story. The characters almost invariably leave me cold. I have good comprehension, but my own emotional investment—and ergo, my own enjoyment—just isn't there. Is this congenital or would it be ameliorated by more life experiences? I've lived quite a sheltered life thus far—I feel as if I've been spared from a lot of the tangible pains of life; though, despite this, I still feel a cosmic pressure intense enough to impel me to read, even if it's almost entirely fruitless.Is it too late for me to change?Pic related is from one of the few books I enjoyed, though I still found it quite slow and boring at parts.
>>6547512You're just a narcissistic hick that isn't cultured enough for literature.
>>6547518That seems accurate.Is it possible to become more cultured? I'm not being facetious, I really do want to become better. I remember enjoying books so much more when I was younger, and I just want to experience that again.
>>6547523Technology has ruined you. You're more alike a drug addict than not. There's a way to recover from most addictions though.You'll need to start slow. Read 5 pages a day, and read them well. Nice and slow, no shortcuts. If you're having trouble staying focused, take a break.You'll recover eventually.
>>6547512>Is this congenital or would it be ameliorated by more life experiences? lol
Quotes thread
>>6545929 "I'm a faggot" - OP
>>6545989>>>/b/
Alexander returneth to dust, the dust is earth, of earth we make loam—and why of that loam, whereto he was converted, might they not stop a beer barrel?
>>6545929edgy nihilist bsfuck off and an hero already faggotanyway, c0ntributing"Religion was always about death"-Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
>>6547564U mad bruh?
Do you agree that the "Friend/Enemy" distinction is the real base of man's political nature. Does man have a need for the political?Are Dems and Republicans a false dichotomy?
>>6546530In the larger context of hegemony or in terms of the state of emergency, yes.But not in terms of the primary motivations for political interaction.The You vs Me logic is really childlike, it's literally how an adolescent child perceives the world.
>>6546563Ok, I'll bite. I am reading, The Concept of the Political. Interesting crop of social scientists and historians popping out of postwar germany--Kosselleck, Schmitt, Heidegger (his work on technology and Art).Any political thinkers you rec?AmIdoinitrite
>>6546574If you read Germans I'd suggest you read the work of the Praxis group, because at least it is informed by the pessimism of their direct class experiences.
>>6546530>Does man have a need for the political?Yes, if he is to atleast have the potential to be aesthetical. Carl can deny the aesthetical nature of the political, but he also quoted Don Carlos at his interogation, so I wouldn't take his word concerning that.>>6546572Sounds like marxists and their dualism of post-feudal society.
>>6546530Yes.Define "the political".Yes.
What does /lit/ think of William Lane Craig? I realize his divine command theory of morality is retarded, since dct was BTFO by Leibniz, but what of his apologetics for the historicity of the gospels? Is there any theologian who does a better job here than he does?http://www.amazon.com/Assessing-Testament-Historicity-Resurrection-Christianity/dp/0889466165
>>6547522>The great Greek thinkers who subscribed to Orphism didn't take the central myth as factual.Presenting it as myths understood in a modern sense is pretty wrong. They certainly wouldn't have understood myth as a "false story". Read Tolkien's central idea of myth for a modern take. Myths reflect the ultimate truths and point to God.
>>6547536No, but I'm saying they didn't take it like Christians take the gospels.
>>6547552Different anon. Maybe the literature wasn't as sacred for the Greeksas the Bible is for Christians but if you're suggesting that the Greek sacred was less sacred than any other culture's sacred, then you should fuck off. If that isn't your point then ignore this post.
>>6547562Well, Christianity's unique aspect is that it is fundamentally based on a historical event, so he probably means that. That's the reason I find it fascinating compared to all other religions though. Christology is a cool subject whether you believe it or not.
>>6547562My point is that Plato didn't think in the Orphic myths as literal, whereas the it is integral to the Christian faith to take the Gospels as literal, factual, and historical. One's personal belief in this matter is stressed, that's part of the Nicene Creed. I seriously doubt any of the ancient mysteries involved one stating one personally believed something was true as part of salvation. Sacred maybe, "true" in a sort of esoteric, spiritual sense, but not "true" in the way Christians take the Gospels. The distinction here is as broad as the difference between how Catholics/Mainline Protestants understand Genesis, vs. how creationists do.
Camus vs SartreWhich one do you think is better and why?
>>6545857We should update that picture replacing taolin, which is not that relevant anymore, and putting more /pol/ in... a lot more /pol/ in.(And maybe a panel about people pretending to be christians just to argue that dawkins is stupid - which he is, but you get the point)Also, answering the op:I personally prefer Sartre; if anything, the nausea is to me an essential read for everybody, it describes perfectly a phase of everybody's growth as a human being, and while many of us probably managed to grow out of it, i wouldn't have the courage to blame someone for being stuck in it
>>6545857>tfw I'm the guy from 7th slide
Age of Reason was okay, soon to read Nausea, both seem very dated though. Not read Camus. They remind me of New Wave films and sets a nice picture so I stomach the quaintness
>>6547477he's ten IQ points lower than the guy in the eighth slide
>>6547415I agree completely with the growing up part. I remember I liked Sartre more than Camus, but after a while I also started to like Camus. Now, I don't think they are that special, but I respect them since they made me get interested in philosophy in the first place.
Which one should I read first, /lit/?Also does anyone else have an obsession with collecting these nyrb books? I love the feel of them.
>>6545100I am skeptical of your viral marketing but I also love NYRB so fuck it.
What are some of the best nyrb classic that you could recommend, besides warlock and the stoner? Their collection looks very interesting but I have no idea where to start.
>>6547326Hard Rain FallingLife and Fate
>>6547326>>6547475Morte D' UrbanThe PeregrineMorvagine
>>6547544*Moravagine