Two years ago, I wrote a post about one of the icons of my childhood, the Berenstein Bears. Except, as I learned, they aren't called the Berenstein Bears. As it turns out, they're the Berenstain Bears.
BerenstAin. With an "A".
My mind was blown. I had very distinct memories of the bears. I grew up reading their books and watching them on TV in school, and remember how it used to be spelled. I tried to figure out when the name had changed.
As it turns out, the name has never changed. They have always been the Berenstain Bears. Every physical book I had ever seen had said "Berenstain Bears". I have always been wrong. Every scrap of physical evidence proves me wrong.
I was really struggling with this for days. Solid days. I felt crushed. I remember how the name was spelled, in almost the same way that I know what cut grass smells like. I went on about this for days, in particular to one very patient friend of mine, and how it made no sense and I can't tell what is true or not anymore.
At nearly the same time, I was taking a class in quantum field theory, and happened to learn the concept of Euclidean spacetime in that context. The idea of complex dimensions lead me to think of a world split into 16 distinct "universes."
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Since writing that post, it has been linked to on dozens of forums, by people every bit as bewildered and confused as I was. As of today it has received over 100,000 page views, and at one point some 20,000 page views in a span of five minutes when it hit twitter.
Plenty of people have contributed their own experiences and added their own theories, so I thought that I would make this post to comment on everything that I have learned about the Berenstain Bears, time shifts, alternate realities, false memories, and the old books. This is mostly meant to posterity, so that the next wave of people to discover this can see what else has been said about it.
1) Some people remember the spelling "Berenstain".
On almost every forum I have seen so far, there has been at least one person to comment to the effect of, "You are all idiots, I remember it said '-stain' from when I was a kid, I noticed it hundreds of times and never knew why people kept mispronouncing it." They usually say it in just that way, too. They have memories of asking why the name was spelled with an "A" as a child, or being corrected on the pronunciation as a child, or some actual, tangible memory that anchors the spelling as always being with an "A".
This doesn't really disprove my hypothesis. All it means is that those people are from Universe A. I still have definite memories of Universe E.
And while it restores a certain amount of sanity (maybe I was wrong), it was also kind of jarring that people apparently remember the spelling with an A. I expected some people to shrug, accept the new spelling, move on, and tell everyone else to get over it (such people are also common on forums). But I didn't expect anyone, at all, to ever remember the bears as spelled with an "A".
To be perfectly honest, I fully expected that if it were ever possible to get in touch with Jan and Stan Berenstain, lately deceased, and ask them how to spell their name, that they would both begin detailing, in a rambled tone as sweat begins to pool on their brows, that their entire lives -- their entire lives -- they had thought that they had been writing their name "Berenstein"... but now they go, and they look at their old journals, their old letters, checks and documents they've signed... they see what they've written... and they've written their name wrong. They've been writing it "Berenstain" all this time, and they thought they were writing "Berenstein". Their own handwriting is lying to them.
However, as they had both passed away, there was no way to ask them. Maybe this was some cruel trick, that they'd be forever unavailable for comment the moment it was most critical to me? Which bring me to my next point.
2) The Berenstains themselves insist the name has always been spelled "Berenstain".
Very shortly after I published my blog post, I received a comment signed by Mike Berenstain. I will reproduce the comment below:
I normally don't comment on blogs about our family name but yours was so unusual and imaginative that I thought it only appropriate to add my thoughts. "Berenstain" according to our family lore was an attempt by an unknown imigration officer sometime in the late 1800s to reproduce phonetically a highly accented version of the tradtional Jewish name "Bernstein" as pronounced by my Father's grandparents when they came to America from the Ukraine. In that linguistic region, the name tended to come out sounding something like, "Ber'nsheytn". Since that's how the name was originally documented, it has always been spelled that way by our family and it has always been misread and mispronounced by nearly everyone. It has always been "The BerenstAin Bears". Your parallel reality theory is very resourceful but, unfortunately, by applying Occam's razor, we arrive at the explanation that most people have just misread the name.Mike Berenstain (Son of Stan and Jan)The comment was technically anonymous, but was signed. I don't know that it was really Mike Berenstain, but I also have no reason to doubt it and good reasons to believe it.
At the time the post was published, my blog was very small and private. I received, at most, five hits a day, most of them from malware sites. Most of my traffic was a handful of friends. Mike's comment is actually the first comment ever made on this blog - before that, my friends would just message me on facebook if they had anything to say about a post. So there's no way that it's just someone who stumbled on the post and wanted to play a joke.
The comment was also made just three hours after the post went up. What seems likely is that Mike Berenstain has a Google Alert set up to notify him when websites mention his family's books.
Also, the comment gives a pretty detailed and plausible account. It checks out. It seems like a real explanation, and not just something someone made up.
Some people in some threads have pointed out that it is suspicious (and one of my early readers did too) that the son of Stan and Jan Berenst*in would just happen to find my blog the day it was published and comment on it. With the Google alert, it makes sense. Maybe it was one of my friends? None of them have ever owned up to it, and my friends aren't the sort who play pranks on me. I can also promise that I didn't write that comment. While I don't know that it was Mike Berenstain, that is the most plausible explanation.
This has apparently been the first time that Mike Berenstain has ever commented publicly about the name, and it has undoubtedly been due to his comment that my post received so much attention, so I would like to thank him for bringing this clarification.
Of course, technically all this proves is that Mr. Berenstain is from Universe A. Which is reassuring. It would be terrifying if his recollection of things had gone the way I initially suspected.
There is also an interview with Mike and Jan Berenstain available here, where they talk about the development of the series. You can hear them pronounce their name, and they pronounce it "BerenstAin".
It's also kind of sweet to hear Jan Berenstain singing the theme song for the show. She must have been a very nice lady.
3) There are thousands of people who really do remember "Berenstein".
Despite the occasional weirdo in forum comments, and despite Mike Berenstain himself, there are thousands of people (a conservative estimate, based just on people in the forums on the subject) who really do remember the books being spelled "Berenstein". When I say that they really do remember, I mean that there exists somewhere in their brain a collection of neurons that truly does correspond to the books being spelled "Berenstein." And these people have no such memories of "Berenstain".
More than that, there are people who have memories of incidents involving the spelling. For instance, there are people with the last name Berenstein who were teased as children for their name being identical. But if their name wasn't identical, surely they would have said something? And there are people who have puzzled over why it is pronounced "-steen" and not "-stine".
One of the more common is people actually making the mnemonic as a kid to a "stein" of beer, imagining Papa Bear drinking a mug of beer. Clearly that'd make no sense if the name was spelled "-stain". Other people remember making constant potty-jokes about the word "stain" with their friends and siblings, and can't understand how they'd have missed "stain" in the name of the bears.
You are not alone. Almost everyone, when they first learn about this, is extremely confused. It isn't just that you were wrong. You can accept being wrong. It isn't just that you misremembered something. You can accept misremembering something. It is that your brain refuses to accept the spelling "Berenstain". You are not crazy, at least not in the technical sense, as plenty of other people feel the same way.
4) All physical evidence says "Berenstain." Your old books in your mom's attic say "Berenstain." They have always said "Berenstain."
At no point have the bears ever been called the "Berenstein Bears." The name never changed, ever. The entire time you were growing up and reading the books and watching the show, they were called the "Berenstain Bears". Every cover stated "The Berenstain Bears." The authors were always named Stan and Jan Berenstain. They didn't change their names for any reason. Those were always their names.
Since this post going up, and since it being discovered on other forums, plenty of people have posted pictures of their old books. The books say "Berenstain". They all do. They all say Berenstain and they have always said Berenstain.
The old kids show? It says Berenstain. They pronounce it as "Beren-steen", but it has always been spelled "Berenstain".
Some people have left cryptic comments on other forums, saying they're going to go to their parents' house and get to the bottom of it. For instance, one comment that gets cited a lot is by someone named Selena in the wikitalk page. She claims:
Actually, throughout my childhood, it was always "Berenstein" Bears. At some point in the mid 90's, it looks like they changed it to "Berenstain" with an A. I found some old books with the original spelling, so I know I'm not crazy. Anyone know when/why it was changed? I'm just curious, since I noticed that Stan's recent obituary had the "Berenstain" spelling. Salena 22:27, January 1, 2006However, she never cites her proof. Does she have an "unchanged" book in her possession? Or did she just never check? Did she make that comment assuming, as we all did, that the books in her possession said what she always thought they said?
Numerous people have made similar claims and promised to go home and check that night. Either they were never heard from again, or they reported back with pictures of their books saying "Berenstain". They have gone up in to their parents' attics, pulled out dusty old cardboard boxes, and there, in their hands, were the books from their childhood... except they've been changed somehow and now say "Berenstain."
Every scrap of physical evidence in existence says "Berenstain", and always has said "Berenstain."
They were never changed. Here in Universe A, the universe we live in (now at least), they have always been called the Berenstain Bears.
And this, really, is what makes it so creepy.
5) Lots of people list books on Ebay, Amazon, and Newspaper Ads calling them the "Berenstein Bears", but the physical products themselves still say "Berenstain Bears" on the cover.
Many people, looking for photographic evidence of the "original" spelling, have turned up listings on amazon and ebay and old newspapers that have the "Berenstein" spelling. However, close inspection shows that the product actually being sold has "Berenstain" on the cover. This is clearly an example of people being mistaken and not double checking when making their listings.
6) There are some images photoshopped to say "Berenstein".
It looks so right... but it's so wrong |
But looking at it... suddenly, everything seems so right. That's what the name used to look like, back in Universe E. That is the name that was on the books. That's what the books should say.
Another photoshopped image was posted on my blog, from imgur, here.
Some people have tried to do photoshop diagnostics on it, like with the above, but nothing has come up in those. However, it is clearly a photoshopped version of this images, which was posted in a reddit thread that I linked to.
The edited version |
The original version |
The second fake photo (above)put a great deal of sanity back in to my life. Maybe they were called the "Berenstain Bears", but the book club was the "Berenstein Bear Club" and that's how everyone made the mistake. I could come to terms with that. But... nope. Nothing related to the Berenstain Bears has ever been called Berenstein anything. They have always and only have been the Berenstain Bears.
Any official image or cover saying "Berenstein" is photoshopped. Not one single cover has transferred with us from Universe E. There's no point in looking. Go ahead and look, but you will find the same thing as everyone else.
7) If you said "Bernstein" as a kid, then you're just plain wrong.
Sorry. It is Berenst*in, in every possible universe. Bernstein is a pretty common spelling that comes up in forums sometimes, and it is just wrong. I'm sorry that I'm so dismissive of it, considering how ardently I insist on Berenstein. But "Bernstein Bears" sounds a thousand times more wrong than Berenstain Bears. The only reason, arguably, that the books were about anthropomorphic bears and not rabbits is because the authors' name is pronounced like "Bear-en-steen". "Bern-steen" is a completely different vowel pronunciation and everything. I'm sorry. It cant possibly be right. You just weren't paying attention. Sorry.
8) No one really cares about my theory, and no one understands my theory.
People frequently cite my blog post as supporting alternative timelines. Or alterations to the timeline due to time travel. Or the many worlds hypothesis. I've written extensively about time travel, where I outright deny the possibility of altering the past. I even denied it in the post in question, when addressing another blog on the same subject (definitely worth a check for the curious).
I don't believe in alternate timelines, and I don't believe the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. Neither of those explanations would make any sense, here, either. Timelines are a completely unphysical concept that fly in the face of our current understand of general relativity (as explained by me here). The many-worlds interpretation is at least supposed to explain a physical phenomenon, but the "universes" in this interpretation can never be re-combined. The many-worlds interpretation is a scientific theory, and the claims it makes about "alternate universes" are very specific and take a very specific form, and they take a form that is at odds with the idea of jumping universes. If Universe A were in fact a separate "universe" in the many-worlds sense, then we can't cross to it from Universe E.
To me, the neatest part of the whole post was the idea of 4D complex Euclidean spacetime, and how it so naturally included the possibility of switching. Such a cool theory! I keep meaning to take it somewhere. Maybe it needs someone smarter than me to really work out its potential. But I don't think anyone else really got it, or cared. Which is kind of sad. To me, anyway.
So, for the record, my blog post has nothing to do with alternative timelines, and nothing to do with the many-worlds interpretation of quantum mechanics. You can still believe those things if you want to, I guess. But I don't believe them.
9) I don't really believe we switched universes.
Obviously, with my rational mind, I understand that the most reasonable explanation is that I misremembered. Occam's Razor and all that. Probably the biggest piece of evidence along these lines is the fact that handwriting from the 80's still says "Berenstein", even though the books say "Berenstain". One striking example was a man on reddit who claimed he found a old VHS tape that said "Berenstein." But then he played the video, and was wrong. He wrote "Berenstein" on the label, but the video intro said "Berenstain."
Yet, with a more visceral part of my mind, I refuse to accept that. I refuse to accept the "Berenstain" spelling. It won't go in my mind. That wasn't what they were called. That isn't right. The memories are so clear and so vidid, and so widespread.
I have been wrong about many, many things in the past, and misremembered many, many things. All of these things, I have shrugged off and owned up to. I cannot shrug off "Berenstain".
For the rest of my life, I will continue having the memory and the belief that the bears were once spelled "Berenstein". I can accept the logic that I just made a mistake, but I really can't get the rest of my brain to admit it. I never made a mistake, because they were never the Berenstain Bears.
That said, I don't really believe that we switched universes. While my theory was certainly intriguing to me (and apparently no one else), I don't actually believe it. I don't know if my theory describes the universe we live in. Even if it did, I'd doubt we shifted. The blog post was me having fun in a way only physics PhDs can, which is rationalizing totally irrational behavior with hyper-rational mathematical analysis.
I feel like a magician explaining to his audience that magic isn't real, but not everyone got the point that I was kidding. I'm not kidding about being totally weirded out about the A/E switch, but I am kidding about alternative timelines. Mostly, anyway.
I still don't know what exactly happened. Way, way too many people have made this same mistake. And it causes me way too much cognitive dissonance to think I was reading the "Berenstain Bears" books when I was a child. But unless 4-D complex Euclidean spacetime can be worked in to a real theoretical framework that makes real and testable predictions that come true, I'm not going to seriously believe we swapped universes.
10) There's a lot of other stuff like this.
The Berenstein/Berenstain confusion is included on their list of common memories. Also included are things like a portrait of Henry VIII eating a turkey leg, or New Zealand once being located north of Australia.
Frankly, I think it's kind of silly. If you had asked me five years ago if Nelson Mandela was dead, I'd have probably said "yes", but I never pay attention to Nelson Mandela. No one from South Africa seems to report believing he had died.
I thought New Zealand was north of Australia, and at first was kind of scared when I heard this. But looking at a map, I was relieved that there it was, right where I always knew it was. Except that it's called Papau New Guinea. So, I was just misidentifying one island nation for another. No one from New Zealand has made this mistake, nor anyone from Australia, and plenty of kiwis have commented on this to explain that they've never moved.
The picture of Henry VIII I am more clear about. I have seen a picture of Henry VIII eating a turkey leg. He's standing up, and the drumstick is in his hand with a bite taken out of it. I don't remember it being a portrait, however. I just remember seeing an image of him eating a turkey leg. It turns out this is a very popular depiction of him (see links in that forum), just not in any official portraiture.
I'm not denying that these people have these memories. I definitely have memories of the Berenstein Bears, so I know what they're going through. But I don't buy in to the Mandela Effect stuff.
It is an important distinction to note, with the other Mandela Effect instances, the people reporting the false memories have little direct contact with the issue in question; I never paid much attention to South African politics or to Southeastern geography. It's easy to explain how I messed up, especially since no South Africans or New Zealanders have reported the same confusion. With the Berenst*in Bears, people who read the books and watched the shows everyday -- some who even wrote books reports or even defended their copyrights legally -- have the same memory of Berenstein. Exposure to the books and the spelling of the name has no bearing on whether you remember stAin or stEin.
Conclusion and Some Outside Links
All told, I still don't really know what's going on. I'm a pretty staid guy. I don't go in for pseudoscience or the paranormal. I can't even stand pseudoscience in science fiction books. I've never seen the show "Sliders", mostly because I think its premise is dumb. But the Berenstein Bears Switcheroo is still the weirdest thing that's ever happened to me. Apparently, it's also the weirdest thing to happen to hundreds of regular, normal, non-paranormal and non-paranoid people.
I have made serious efforts to link to many of the discussions I have found on this subject, for the sake of the curious. I hope to include more links as they come. Here is a small sampling of those that have come up in the past two years:
- A post written before mine, that I originally cited, offering up a Ray-Bradbury-Sound-of-Thunder explanation
- A thread on above top secret citing my post
- A thread on reddit, originally about the Henry VIII turkey leg picture, that also brings up the Berenst*in Bears.
- Thread on reddit, offering alleged photographic proof of the original name
- Thread on r/conspiracy
- Another thread on r/conspiracy
- Thread on r/AskReddit about incorrect facts people mistakenly believed. The spelling of the Berenst*in Bears is cited
- Thread on r/AskReddit about biggest mindf#s. The spelling of Berenst*in Bears is cited.
- Smaller thread on r/TIL about Michael Cera being the voice of Brother Bear. Some comments.
- Thread on r/books asking about the original spelling
- One of the first reddit threads to link to my post, on r/books, commemorating Jan Berenstain's passing away.
- Comment made on an apparently quite active live journal account, after a video about ghosts at a soccer game, mentioning the Berenst*in Bears shift. (I think this is one of the few people who understands my theory the way that I do.)
- Thread on r/TIL aout the Mandela Effect, where someone mentions the Berenst*in Bears.
- Thread from r/AskReddit, tagged as serious, asking what conspiracy theories people seriously give credence.
- Website for a lawyer in copyright and trademark law, who reports (as of 06/24/2014) handling cases for the BerenstEin Bears. (He'll likely change this once he's aware of it, please let me know if he does)
- One of the Mandela Effect pages on the Berenst*in Bears. Lists come user comments.
- Blog article, with its own partial list of other reddit threads (some not included here)
- This post at strangerdimensions.
I would like to end by saying thank you to all of the people who linked to my blog. I don't host ads, so it's not like you made me rich, but you did give me the satisfaction of having my ideas read by total strangers around the world, which is definitely something. And thank you, again, to Mike Berenstain, for his helpful comment, explaining how, in Universe A, his family name came to be spelled as it is, without which I doubt that anyone would have paid any attention to me.
To everyone else, welcome to Universe A. You'll get used to it before long.
I remember people wrongly pronouncing stain as "steen", always bothered me becaue i knew it was wrong, what's happening to you is that you always pronounced the name steen, which is wrong, perhaps your teacher or your parents pronounced that way and it got stuck deep into your brain, same thing happened to mea couple of years ago with a videogame named "suikoden" which ive always pronounced as "suidoken" for years and years until recently, i was truly confused, but nevre thought of someone travelling through space and time and changing history just to play a joke with me... maybe you were just not a very clever kid and never realized it was actually supposed to be pronounced as "stain"...ever thought about that simple explanation?
ReplyDeleteNot even once have I considered that simple explanation. Thank you for being the first.
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DeleteYou're an idiot. AND an a-hole.
DeleteI imagine your pleasure stick is pretty insignificant as well.
Another person with your exact explanation replied on another forum about this topic but the video game name was different. Either your the same person or a troll..
Deletealso there are names that are pronounced ee and written a like mccaulay for example is mccallee
DeleteI prefer to use a theory that I borrow from the first Matrix movie. When a des ja vu happens (or major “geo-synchronicity”), it means the Archons changed something in the game simulation that we call "reality". The Oracle in The Matrix: Reloaded elaborates on this idea when sitting with Neo on the bench. When something paranormal happens, like when UFO citings make front headlines, its just a friendly hand wave from our Galactic Neighbours who were given permission to ever so slightly, in a minor way, alter the trajectory of human history. This Bernstein Bear thing could be an excellent example of this phenomenon. The Mandela effect could be another pretty trippy possible application of this theory. David Wilcock does an amazing job at documenting recent geo-synchronicities. Wilcock's insightful narratives into (1) the Arial Castro case in the mass media and (2) the Hudson River plane crash 2009 are both real mind fucks. If you do go on a Google search for these things, I caution you that Wilcock's more popular Vatican geo-synchornicity narrative is lame.
ReplyDeleteI can't remember where I read this interpretation that UFOs serve as humanity's “caretakers” (I thought it was in one of Daniel Pinchbeck's books, but now I can't find it, ha haha). Regardless of where I saw it, I trust that extraterrestrials watch over us. The NSA watches over us too. Google pronoia. I digress.
My theories can't be proven true, or at least can't be proven true at this point in the history of our civilization. Maybe one day everything will make sense. For now I just play with these ideas for my own amusement. It's fun to entertain ridiculous ideas without ever actually believing any of them.
"It's fun to entertain ridiculous ideas without ever actually believing any of them."
DeleteI honestly couldn't agree more. Sometimes, it's nice to just stretch your brain and try to really defend something that you know is totally absurd, just to see how well you can do. In some ways, it's part of healthy thinking - the more you really try to consider alternatives, however ridiculous, the more you can spot errors in the idea you really believe.
Your stuff about aliens and whatnot is pretty out there, and frankly, kind of crazy. But it would definitely be fun to try to prove it. I think it's part of the same motivation that drives me to genre fiction.
Whatever. I remember it pronounced Stein. I guess everyone who ever said it to me was"wrong"
ReplyDeleteYou're just from Universe E, like I am. You're not crazy. There are millions of us.
DeleteI'm definitely from Universe E. When I first read of this I had never heard it pronounced like "stain" at the end in my entire life. I checked at my parents' house the next time I was there, and I'll be damned if there aren't 40+ Berenstain Bears books in my old room. I pointed it out to my mom and I remember when I heard her say the word "Berenstain" it sounded so foreign and wrong to me. My mother and I are undoubtedly from Universe E.
DeleteLoved the physics involved in this, your not alone. There could be some very entertaining math here.
ReplyDeleteI will plant this seed of thought in a simplified format to add to your theory.
ReplyDeleteString Theory demonstrates 10 (not 11) total dimensions of space-time with 4 (H,W,D+time) observable and 6 unperceivable. The 6 "unknown" are in actuality multidimensional links to 6 alternate universes that "travel" grouped in interwoven timelines which are in turn linked to 6 other alternates (to infinitus) within a fullerene structured membrane loop. Our conscience mind can only be aware of one timeline at a time, but can "switch" awareness any of the 6 linked alternates at a quantum half-step of the membrane's "clock" that synchronizes the grouped time-lines "physical" strings. As our common "collective" consciences traverse these 6 parallel time-lines each with common memories that shape that universe; Thus each of them vary only slightly in small details based on the 6 possibilities due to the independence of each "collective" grouping. Our collective minds migrate to the common grouping based on the common decisions we make that move us between these infinite static universes. That is why we have up to 6 possible memories of events/books/etc. within our collective consciousness. We also tend to stick to one timeline until circumstances initiates a conscious shift, hence such consistency in our own memories. But what does that mean to our other selves in those alternate universes?? Is that really us or one of 6 individual consciences???? The seed is planted, enjoy! One more thing, check out Saturn's north pole and imagine why it exists. :-)
No wait I don't love that first comment - I love THIS comment!
DeleteStupid anonymous posting can't edit your posts...
Fixed it for you :)
DeleteFor some reason I could see Michio Kaku posting this.
DeleteWhen I was a child, I had a great deal of difficulty learning to read. Which is odd if you consider that I was reading and comprehending at the level of a college sophomore by the end of the fourth grade. Back to the point, I vividly remember looking at the title and sounding out bear-en-steen. I highly doubt I would have struggled with the name had it been spelled -stain. #Team-stein
ReplyDeleteGo Team-stein!
DeleteI want to thank you for one of the greatest moments of mutual, rolling laughter with my wife. We were watching The Berenstein Bears in Universe E until I finally committed to finding out if it was the Dixie Chicks sang the theme song. Nope. Lee Ann Womack. In that research effort, I stumbled on your post... and our lives have been changed for the better ever since. In reading your blog post out loud from beginning to end, our 3 year-old son who prefers Caillou, fell asleep... and for that we thank you from the bottom if our hearts. Universe A is lookin good.
DeleteThis is really logical reasoning to support our claims.
DeleteI have similar memories of not really knowing how to say it correctly. Well, if it were "stain", there's really no other way to interpret that. It's said how it's spelled. Ugh!! This is nuts.
That Photoshopped picture of the correct "stein" spelling sealed the deal for me. That is exactly what I remembered seeing growing up, and it even feels right. In no way was it "stain".
ReplyDeleteIt's just so wrong in every way. I relate to your reasoning so much. And now, I'm pretty freaked out, heheh. =]
The Wikipedia page says stAin, but the url for the page says stEin!
ReplyDeleteI just read this post and noticed that you have approached this wholeness in linear logical left brain perspective. Your experience is explained when you see my own documented experiences on my website Life is Living Art. I suggest everyone who are interested about time travel, parallel realities and the nature of reality to check it out. Answers come from outside of the mind, not in the mind: "Our modern day understanding of Quantum Physics and the nature of Reality has come to a point, where scientists and spiritually oriented people can finally learn to find a common ground. In the very core both are speaking of the same ideas and concepts. Most importantly they both are trying to figure out the same phenomenon of Entanglement, with slightly different names and variations of meanings. Essentially both agree that there's underlaying structure behind the visible and observable universe. What this means is, that in randomness there's Divine Structure and Order that is contained within everything and no-thing at the same time - A Source-Field from which everything springs forth into manifested form.
ReplyDeleteIn modern world our understanding comes from the mind oriented thinking. Mind cannot never understand something which has been created outside of the mind. I have written about this area known as Living Awareness here on this website as well as in my upcoming book series Life is Living Art. Keeping that in mind: From the observational point of view these scientists in the field of Quantum Physics / Mechanics come way behind of my current level of understanding. It seems that the Original Creative Thinking which springs forth from outside of the limited mind structure - is years far ahead, when we compare it to the Collective Consensus Reality and approaches made thereof.
My own personal subjective experiences around the idea of Quantum Entanglement shows wonderfully through many examples, that the scientists are never able to understand it all - unless they experience it subjectively themselves. After experiencing Quantum Entanglement themselves, they can bring the awareness and inner wisdom gained from the experience to the equation. Suddenly many missing links just seem to appear out of nowhere and wholeness becomes Crystal Clear: In Randomness there is Divine Structure/Order, that is contained within everything and no-thing at the same time. This realization leads into undeniable truth of Oneness and Interconnectedness of Everything - Where "this or that" becomes "this and that", and eventually "this becomes that", which simply just IS." http://www.lifeislivingart.info/p/quantum-entanglement-system.html
I don't know of a single spiritually minded person (who is not also a physical scientist) trying to figure out Quantum Entanglement. I know of lots of quacks trying to make money by peddling "Quantum Entanglement" seminars, equivocating on the word "Entanglement", and claiming to have somehow transcended modern science despite not even understanding what the words in it mean.
DeleteEntanglement occurs at the level of individual particles. Entanglement occurring on the level of a human person would result in decoherence, or wave function collapse. Which is to say, it would not happen at all. You cannot entangle yourself, in the scientific sense used in quantum mechanics. In the nonsensical word-salad sense used by "Quantum Mystics", maybe you can "entangle" yourself, if that word is taken to mean "have an emotional experience while staring at crystals".
I specifically remember Berenstein
ReplyDeleteOK, I have to chime in. You know that song that is out now, "Stay with Me" by Sam Smith? I SWEAR I had heard it before. As a matter of fact, I was 100% sure it was a remake. But I cannot find any evidence.
ReplyDeleteHas anyone else here had that same memory with that song?
I thought the same thing as well!!!! But what I concluded is it has a lot of similar notes in the song "Won't back down" by Tom Petty. Perhaps he should sue just like the Marvin Gaye estate suing Robin Thicke. ;) Really, there are onlying so many combinations of notes on this planet and artists are inspired by other artists. As for the BerenstEin topic at hand, I am a parent of the 80's and it baffles me that so many people can remember something 'incorrectly'. We always pronounced it Berensteen. The mystery continues...... ;)
DeleteI felt the same way about "Stay with me", but I think I had it confused with "Stand By Me" by Ben E King, personally. I mean, parts of it are quite similar..."But darlin', stay with me" and "Darlin', darlin', stand by me" immediately jump out.
DeleteI think the idea of a mass confusion should imply something larger than , 'a common memory mistake'. The idea of an altered reality crosses path with consciousness and our awareness of time and space. In psychological studies the human brain can alter its hindsight for defensive purposes. As to say 'well, I have always been right because etc..' This is a defense mechanism in order for the brain to sustain consistency in its awareness state. To maintain a ego state if you will. Consciousness is deeply connected to time. And time is connected to reality in our universe. The 3 dimensional universe we are aware of.
ReplyDeleteAs far as I know, memory can only be altered by a shift in consciousness or an outside force with an overwhelming impact on the thought/memory system of an individual...which can be brainwashing or trauma. Trauma can have an individual alter his/her own memory.
So, I favor the idea that a defensive mechanism is at fault here that divides the line between the memory of what was 'real' what wasn't. A mass collective of individuals who remember a certain event specifically , and commonly can reassure that something was altered. The divide was only created by the ego states defense. Even at the risk of the family, who , in theory could be keeping the flow of 'STAIN' in order to extinguish the possible chaos. Who know's?
We live in a strange,strange universe and when consciousness is at stake, we should be alarmed. The alteration of a mass collective of memory should 'BE' alarming in the sense that there is more to reality than we would 'like' to accept. It keeps the 'flow' going. But, we coud be allowing something larger at play sweep right under our noses,simply because we do not want to understand the complex.
Lastly, because I need to say this. I believe the response from the family individual of the Berenstain legacy, might have triggered a domino effect on your ego state. Even as I type the family name my computer underlines it, to tell me 'I have misspelled'. I am very experienced in the human brain and trauma/memory complexity. I say this because, well simply this event is quite traumatic in the sense that it questions alot of what we remember, how we remember and how we process reality. Its quite scary and can easily push an individual into a thought process that 'rationalizes the complex in order to move on..'. For example, the response from the family member. Its a great healing strategy but one that I am not so quick to take. If we are to fully engage ourselves with our reality we have to be willing to question what we think,know and understand. Even at the expense of appearing 'nuts'. Take care.
DeleteI've just had my mind blown. I have to say that both my wife and I are from Universe E and were there in the 70's and 80's. However, as a typegeek I'd have to say that the misremembering can't really be caused by the "weird, cursive a" because it is quite a nice, properly formed a.
ReplyDeleteThe cause is more likely due to the fact the word "Berenstain" has two e's before the offending portion of the word. Since our brains aren't reading all the letters, it is filling in the third e to continue the pattern.
I don't remember hearing the theme song because I think the show was after I was already too old for it, but I think of the books often (I read them, my wife hated them as a kid and now we have kids) and was (until now!) constantly wondering if it should be pronounced "Berensteen" or "Berenstine". I was just looking at my son's Scholastic Book order and saw the books by Mike Berenstain, and thought they had recently change the spelling so went online to look... and had my mind blown.
If you'd grown up in an alternate universe, you'd remember airships. Alternate universes always have airships.
ReplyDeleteAnd talking animal companions! Don't forget those!
DeleteAnd of course The Red Lantern!
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I came across a post about this on tumblr. The site it linked to is unavailable because the bandwidth is overrun, but I like swear it was berenstein?? anyway, over 80,000 people have liked/reblogged the post. I looked through the tags on it and though I didn't look at all of them, I did look through quite a lot. Most of them said some thing like "#WHAT THE FUCK" and through that search, I only found two people that remembered it as -stain. I've been thinking about this for days.
ReplyDeleteThanks for commenting. I'd love to see and link the tumblr post when it comes up. Sometimes I see sudden spikes in my traffic from Google searches, and I know that somewhere, people are discussing the Berenst*in Bears; good to know from where. I'll like to the tumble post here whenever I see it.
DeleteHeard this mentioned on a podcast last night and have felt uneasy since then, since at first I thought they were joking, and I still cannot "accept" that it was not -stEin. I have very distinct memories of it as -stEin and have a extremely good, bordering-on-photographic, memory in general.
DeleteI don't know what is real anymore o_O
I'd be interesting in hearing the podcast, and linking to it from here.
Deletein third or fourth grade i read those books, but im only 15. my brothers and i all remember it as berenstein bc when we said it we would go "berensteen~stine" bc we weren't sure how to pronounce it. that was in 2007-2009ish
ReplyDelete^same person.
Deletei also remember reading them to my cousin about 3 years ago and it said E so maybe im still in the E world or texas just prints them different i dont know
Its really weird that the year date 1992 came up as I read this post and the original that started it all as I have an interesting memory from my childhood about that specific year.
ReplyDeleteI was in Brixner Junior High School here in Klamath Falls Oregon and befriended some kid named Joe Woodward. It was 94‘ thru 96‘ that we were friends and I remember specifically that his mother was kinda off her nut a little bit because once when I went to his house to play video games his mother went on some kind of angry tirade about how his uncle used to murder babies and keep the body parts in his fridge and that same uncle took Joe in some kind of small propeller plane (with the uncle as the pilot) when they used to live in Los Angeles, gave Joe a gun and ordered him to shoot at the Hollywood sign (for some reason lost to memory).
The other part she went off about was how the year 1992 would not exist if her uncle didn’t practice some sort of black magic ritual or spell or something.
Yeah, weird. But I also have memories of the BerenSTEIN Bears so maybe not so weird after all.
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I remember with 100% certainty that it is berenstein, i was addicted to these book as a child. I am now 41. One thing i often wonder about is my whole life i have had visions, strong gut feelings that almost always come true, and often feel a presence and have seen black shadow figures frequently. I frequently get physical feelings of outside forces, its very odd and i could never figure it out. I'm not saying this is a super natural situation but one i would like to explore more in depth, problem is when you talk to people about it they look at you like your a crazy nut job
ReplyDeleteif you have an email address that would be great
I just found this by googling for alternate timelines. I always remembered it as being pronounced 'stain' but spelt 'stein'. I even remember asking my grandma why it was pronounced that way when it was spelled a different way as a kid.
ReplyDeleteCrazy shit, man. :p
You're the only person besides me that I've read so far that remembers it this way. I *always* pronounced it as 'stain' when I was a kid, but later on I reconstructed the spelling in my head as 'stein'. I figured I must have just not paid attention to the spelling as a kid, and reconstructed it as 'stein' because that's a far more common way to see it spelled in other last names.
DeletePerhaps I know what happend...Ever heard of John Titor? A time traveller (accidently?) changed the logo to "Berenstein", creating a new timeline. Then he went back in and changed it again to the original "Berenstain". I don`t know these books, but it would defintinetly freak me out if there would be a "W"-McDonalds logo everywhere I`d go. Scary...
ReplyDeleteI'm only 17 but i remember it as Stein...
ReplyDelete"Also included are things like a portrait of Henry VIII eating a turkey leg"
ReplyDeleteIn the film "The Private Life of Henry VIII" produced in 1933, at 28:28 in, we can clearly see the King chomping down on the leg of some sort of fowl. It's not a portrait, but I instantly remembered the image (even though I have only seen the film once in my life as a child) and quickly found it on the archive.org web site. Check it out.
I am from universe E, and I'll find out tomorrow if my mother, a children's librarian, remembers the BerenstEin spelling too!
ReplyDeleteDid you know there is a British search engine that will actually bring up several pages of "BerenSTEIN Bears" results when you type that in? Unlike all the other search engines I've seen, which seem to want to fight do away with all things Berenstein and give you Berenstain results? Of course all the pictures on the sites that come up still have STAIN on the books, etc, but this is the only search engine I'm aware of that gives several pages of nothing but Berenstein before it switches over to all stain around page 6.
ReplyDeleteDid someone or something forget to cover ALL their tracks?? Go to Exalead UK and type in BerenSTEIN and see. I screen printed the first page of results with time and date visible on the bottom toolbar and saved it to a flash drive just in case somebody may realize their oversight and "fix" it.
Just to add to my previous comment a few minutes ago, just about all of the sites that come up on the search results have an odd look and feel about them. An "empty" feel. Almost like they're test sites or something.
ReplyDeleteIn '93 or '94, as a middle schooler, I traveled to the core via tunnels in my thoughts/dreams and jumped back into the wrong portal. I saw the guardian and was frightened. The next day I knew... I had come back to a different place. I would like to go back. HELP.
ReplyDelete(This is not a joke...) portalju3per@gmail.com
I just discovered this phenomenon yesterday, and have not been able to stop thinking about it. Everyone I asked - including my mom and sister with whom I read the books in the 80s and 90s, immediately said "Berenstein" when I asked them the name of the bear family, but frustratingly, after their initial confusion and surprise when I informed them of the mysterious spelling change everywhere except in people's memories, they either shrugged it off or recanted and said they must have been remembering it wrong. What does it mean that so many of us trust our memories more thoroughly than the evidence in front of us? What does it mean that others are willing to dismiss what their memories tell them about the past simply because all the physical evidence in the present contradicts it? Which of us is acting irrationally?
ReplyDeleteAt any rate, I wanted to say that I did read your 4D complex Euclidean spacetime theory - a few times in fact - but as most of my knowledge of physics comes from popular books by people like Brian Greene and Michio Kaku, the jargon is too dense for my amateur brain. But if you wrote a book about it, I would definitely read it, and might even understand it. I've come up with my own nebulous theory about leaking quantum randomness radiating backwards through time, creating a wave-like effect that completely overwhelms the memories of those closest to the changed object/event, but which gradually dissipates as it radiates outward, which might explain why the Berenst*in family (and apparently some people who knew them personally - as my sister's co-worker claims to have) don't have any memory of the stein spelling, while many of the rest of us, farther removed from the individuals (if not their works), still retain a strong memory of the old pre-quantum-weirdness version of events. I'm sure there's some mathematical reason why this is impossible or nonsensical, but my brain will not allow me to let this go unless I can at least tell myself there's some kind of theory out there that kind of makes sense. Which is why I'm so eager to understand a theory that's based on science that is well beyond my area of knowledge. And while I don't buy into most of the Mandela Effect memories, chalking them up to people simply having a bad understanding of geography/spelling/history, I do find it dubious that this should be an isolated event, and wouldn't be surprised if whatever is responsible for the Berenst*in paradox has also caused other apparent temporal inconsistencies.
One other thing to note: I would hazard a guess that the name Berenstein is an English translation of a Slavic pronunciation of a Jewish name, its current spelling created when an ancestor of Stan's first passed from Eastern Europe to Ellis Island. I say this because I know someone of Eastern European descent whose last name ends in "steyn," the Roman alphabetic spelling of a Jewish name previously written in Cyrillic. But it could have just as easily been translated as "stain" or "stein". My guess would be that if there was some kind of random quantum fluctuation or leakage, the point where it happened was when Stan Berenst*in's ancestor had his name translated to English by some immigration official, who interpreted the spelling at random.
By the way, I keep wondering, is the name of your blog a reference to C.S. Lewis's "The Magician's Nephew"?
"By the way, I keep wondering, is the name of your blog a reference to C.S. Lewis's "The Magician's Nephew"?"
DeleteYes, most definitely. There's a particular scene in that book, where Jadis is in London and tries to cast a spell and fails, that had a really serious impact on me. Most of my favorite posts on this blog are about Narnia in some way. In one I found its width using Gauss' Law. In another I made up a way to travel there (which is impossible to implement, but still cool to ponder).
"At any rate, I wanted to say that I did read your 4D complex Euclidean spacetime theory - a few times in fact - but ... the jargon is too dense for my amateur brain. But if you wrote a book about it, I would definitely read it, and might even understand it."
I have tried to do just that. At the moment all I have is a brown napkin with arabic letters scribbled on it. (I used Arabic letters because it makes me crack a smile to pretend that the other hexadectants are where the djinn of Islamic theology live.)
My theory, I should point out, is really a crackpot "wouldn't it be cool if" kind of thing. Michi Kaku and Brian Greene are talking about real things, whereas I'm talking about principled make-believe. So far as I have a theory, it immediately, right out of the gate, leads to this annoying cross term that doesn't go away, and ruins what would otherwise be a beautiful splitting of lengths in to the imaginary and real parts. So, so far it's a no-go. If put in to any sort of workable theory, it might actually make meaningful predictions. Right now, however, it does not.
In simplest terms, complex spacetime would introduce four additional directions of movement for particles, but these directions are specially related to the original four.
"Which is why I'm so eager to understand a theory that's based on science that is well beyond my area of knowledge."
I'm flattered at that. Sadly, my theory really is not based on science. It has scientific sounding ideas, and I know just enough to put them in very convincing language and argue it from some principles (always dangerous), but it is at this point in the stage of unworkable hypothesis.
"I would hazard a guess that the name Berenstein is an English translation of a Slavic pronunciation of a Jewish name, its current spelling created when an ancestor of Stan's first passed from Eastern Europe to Ellis Island."
Did you read Mike Berenstain's comment on the first post? He basically confirmed this.
Thanks again for commenting!
"Sadly, my theory really is not based on science. It has scientific sounding ideas, and I know just enough to put them in very convincing language and argue it from some principles (always dangerous), but it is at this point in the stage of unworkable hypothesis."
DeleteToo bad...maybe a scifi movie then? Lol. Still, you could probably say the same thing about most versions of string theory and M-theory, which make sense mathematically, but are not experimentally verifiable (or disprovable). And plenty of theories started out with parts that seemed unworkable, until some other element was discovered that filled in the missing pieces. Like Alan Guth's inflationary theory of the universe, which worked in every way except for the Omega value being too low, until they re-introduced the cosmological constant, and suddenly the theory worked, except that now we have the dark energy problem. So you never know.
I did read Mike Berenstain's comment - I must have missed the part about Ukraine, or forgot that I'd read it there. I read a lot of comments that day trying to understand what happened to the Berenstein Bears.
I don't understand how so many people remember it being spelled as "Berenstein", myself included, when apparently we've been wrong all these years? I just don't understand how so many people could be wrong. I remember as a kid thinking to myself and wondering why it wasn't pronounced "stine" like Albert Einstein, and this taught me that certain names with Stein at the end are pronounced "steen".... " Berenstain" doesn't look right. They were the Berenstein bears, dammit.
ReplyDeleteWell, it just got weirder.
ReplyDeleteIn this blog you state that in the cartoon clip you have here they pronounce it 'steen' but spell it 'stain'. I just watched it- and now they are pronouncing it STAIN.
Look that up in your Funken Wagnel.
I just listened to it again, and it sounds like "steen" to me. Maybe it's just differences in accent? What part of the country are you from?
DeleteLived all over the US. Many people have told me I have zero accent. Right now I am in the desert Southwest.
DeleteListened to it again... a couple of times. The video is still saying STAIN when I listen to it. Would be awesome if other people would sound off about how they hear it.
I'm Australian, and I thought NZ was north of Australia.
ReplyDeleteIt was a while ago, but not long enough I'm ashamed to admit.
I was 19.
(I'm a bit late to the board- don't mind me)
ReplyDeleteHmmm although I remember it being Berenstein during my childhood, I'm not altogether certain if that memory is accurate (mostly because your post made me wonder if I really did remember thus and I actually saw Berenstain all along). But then there is the fact that I read Alsatian as Alastian for a good 15+ years. And similarly, supercilious was superlicious (the latter sounds so much cooler but alas is not a word outside of my own making). So perhaps it is simply that the brain decides to modify something to make it more aesthetically pleasing to itself... Fooling itself in the process. 'Tis fascinating though.