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[–]tonehead 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They call themselves kayaktavists.

[–]VaguestCargoWest Seattle[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My favorite part of the whole thing

[–]MtKillchuck 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Its defenses are designed around a direct, large-scale assault. A small one-man fighter should be able to penetrate the outer defense.

[–]OrionSrSr -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Better call Phoenix Jones /s

[–]escapewa 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where is he anyways?

[–]escapewa -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Where is he anyways?

[–]oofig 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was out at May Day doing nothing in particular.

[–]Darth_Paratrooper 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I heard the kayaktivist organizer, Bill Moyer, on KIRO Radio last week, saying how he expects 500 to 1,000 protestors to show up. Maybe overshot that estimate by a little...

[–]oofig 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

While that may be a bit generous of an estimate, he was talking about the action on Saturday.

[–]Darth_Paratrooper 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ahhh, I stand corrected. Thanks!

[–]t4lisker 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Look at all of the plastic boats protesting the oil platform.

[–]zippityhooha 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (0子コメント)

bifurcation/false dilemma fallacy

[–]watchout5 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (11子コメント)

We don't need an oil platform in the arctic to make boats with...

[–]beeppuddogs 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

HAHA fo sho. Cry babies

[–]P4HoustonP4Austin 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The first thing I thought when I saw this was "what a well framed shot, OP." Kudos

[–]death_to_all_humans 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Wow, way to be a complete asshole. These people are actually trying to make a difference, to make the world better for all of us, while you sit on your ass behind a computer screen and make snarky remarks.

And all of you idiots saying shit like "we need the oil rig so you can have plastic boats" etc, how dense are you? This is about protesting drilling in the Arctic. It is an extremely fragile ecosystem that a single spill could utterly destroy. Do you like salmon? Because if you do you should be out there with them, since Arctic drilling means kissing our seafood supply goodbye. Remember the Deepwater Horizon disaster? An underwater drilling platform malfunctioned and it spilled shit everywhere. The whole Gulf of Mexico still hasn't recovered, and that was in the best of conditions: calm, warm water, no impediments to getting in the equipment to plug the spill. If that happened in the Arctic, it would take much longer to stop the spill, meaning a much larger area would be affected. And if they didn't get it fixed during the brief arctic summer, the winter storms and ice would make it impossible to go in and fix it. Imagine a spill like in the Gulf of Mexico, but continuing to pour oil for nine months straight? Hell, that could have an effect on the global ecosystem.

Drilling in the arctic is fucking stupid and it should be stopped at all costs. There's plenty of oil in other places. The risk of a spill isn't worth it to anyone. Except Shell because they will make money off of it while everyone else pays the price of a disaster.

[–]OrionSrSr 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Remember the Deepwater Horizon disaster? An underwater drilling platform malfunctioned and it spilled shit everywhere.

Remember the 212 other offshore oil rigs in the Gulf Of Mexico that never had a problem? Remember how many people died in car wrecks last year?

I'm betting you still drive a car that runs on oil.

[–]klingonfemdom 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm betting you still drive a car that runs on oil.

not a valid argument. just because you need oil to function in todays society doesn't mean you should be OK with giving oil companies free range of the earth to do with what they like..... really not that hard to understand.

[–]death_to_all_humans 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If you actually read what I wrote you would know that the Gulf of Mexico is ideal conditions, while the Arctic Ocean is full of ice, storms, freezing water, and unknown terrain. An ice floe could easily cause a spill, as could one of the notorious arctic winter storm. But even if the risk was the same, it still wouldn't be worth it. The potential damage and the difficulty the area would present to cleanup attempts is far too great. There's oil in plenty of other places that don't present nearly the same risk.

Edit: And what on earth do car accidents have to do with anything? What does whether or not I drive a car have to do with drilling in the arctic? And for the record, no, I don't own a car, I prefer to use public transit, walk, and bicycle.

[–]HaroldJIncandenza 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm betting you still drive a car that runs on oil.

WTF I pay cash for my lunch, that doesn't mean I must support all bank robberies.

[–]Life_Bergler 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

My main problem with this is that it totally clashes with our amazing skyline.

[–]lone_star_dietz 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I don't think they are docking it at pier 66.

[–]DerBrizon 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's going to terminal 5, iirc.

[–]OrionSrSr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Only from West Seattle

[–]aeternusFIVMEBest Seattle 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's "Best Seattle"

[–]VaguestCargoWest Seattle[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It'll be out of the way soon, I believe.

[–]Chanticleer_Hegemony 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why are people protesting this oil rig so much? Our world runs on oil. We're still a long way out from getting away from that fact, and until then we need oil rigs like this.

[–]derangedhyenaLynnwood 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There was recent research discussing how 100% of the arctic oil needs to remain unburned (and by logical extension, un-extracted) to keep global temperatures from rising too much more. Here's an article about it, it has a link to the paper it discusses.

A lot of the contention about this thing focuses on that, plus the fact "hosting giant, environmentally destructive rig" doesn't really mesh with the focus on being green that WA/Seattle works to have....

edit: slightly modified word choice to appease potential pedants.

[–]VaguestCargoWest Seattle[S] -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Figured I would take a picture that was a better representative of this HUUUUGE turnout and opposition we were hearing about. 20 kayaksworth of people could manage the time to protest something the "Entire city" is opposed to? Lol

[–]fabos 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow. I'd bet the news photographers are going to get in close and take pictures with a telephoto lens that makes the story seem totally different.

[–]SovietJugernautEastlake 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Some of us are opposed to hosting the rig but also have jobs.

Surprise.

[–]derangedhyenaLynnwood 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The kayak protest is on Saturday... these were just people responding to the thing's arrival.

[–]Tangled2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The shipping lanes in the sound are well defined, and you don't want to hang out in them (for both legal or sanity reason). Those vessels don't change directions or speed very quickly, they the move deceptively fast, and smaller boats do not have the right-of-way. Even when I'm in a boat that can top 25 knots I'm still really weary of being in the shipping lanes.

[–]emeraldpity -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Congrats to /r/reddit for downvoting everything! No to you, and you, and even you!

[–]MXMCrowbar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And even you get downvoted apparently. Jesus this sub is toxic.