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[–]subsequent 10 ポイント11 ポイント x5 (50子コメント)

Great, I hope this gets rid of subreddits that post pictures to intentionally shame, bully, and put down people based on physical appearance and ideology.

Cyber bullying is such an epidemic in the world and people don't realize how it can affect people mentally.

[–]curtdammit 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why I try to be the person I know Mr. Rodgers wanted me to be.

[–]aurisor 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

If you don't like a subreddit, then don't read it. If it's not breaking the law, you don't have a right to censor other people.

[–]subsequent 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's fine. I get that, but there are cyber bullying laws in place.

[–]tkms -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Heck, even if it does break the law, that doesn't necessarily give people a right.

Laws determine neither rights nor moral righteousness. But I know what you meant.

[–]Infu-P 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (20子コメント)

Amen. FPH brigaded suicidewatch. The result was 1 human life less.

They need to learn a lesson.

Edit: About the suicidewatch thing: https://i.imgur.com/A6ORPlL.png

[–]Davethe3rd 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When did this happen?

Link?

That's fucking terrible...

[–]TheBowerbird -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

There's no proof that person anhero'd, nor that it wasn't an elaborate troll.

[–]Infu-P 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

This was on suicidewatch dude. Most to all people are there because they want to kill themselves. Do you honestly think she didnt?

[–]Darko33 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Such a lovely community this is, where "my right to anonymously and cruelly make fun of overweight people is more important than whether someone kills themselves" is a stance that gets defended with such passion and vigor

[–]Infu-P 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, it's lovely. We honestly cant complain about 4chan (or the 100 other chans) and Tumblr when the majority of us either accept or are part of FPH.

[–]StretchMarkFractals 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

People have literally suggested false flag brigades to get the sub shut down. I wouldn't put it past someone to concoct a fake suicide note and specifically call out FPH in an attempt to get it removed.

[–]TheBowerbird 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You claimed that the person killed themselves as a result of users being a jerk to them. Why make that claim if there is nothing to back it up? How do you know this sensitive flower or possible troll actually did that? Why claim it if you don't know?

[–]Infu-P -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I claimed a suicidal person killed themselves because like suicidal people tend to do, they kill themselves because of the bullying. This is why they are suicidal. You see how I keep marking out the word suicidal? That's because its the part you're missing. It's not really hard to guess that after a suicidal person who had suicide in mind for a long time, would kill themselves after being bullied because suicidal people do not care if its "over the interwebs" or real life, everything mean said to them goes eight into the core of their system. And because they were suicidal, they most likely killed themselves because their world, or escape from it as I like to call reddit, absolutely hated her. Well, some jerks did. Wouldn't you also be upset if you found a picture of yourself with people relentlessly mocking it and then when you tried to explain yourself be BANNED for being fat?

[–]GibsMeDatBojangles 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most people who talk about suicide do not commit suicide. You seriously think that person is most likely dead now?

[–]Fat_Burner -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (8子コメント)

It's a troll. He created an account in suicidewatch to post a fake story, and another account an hour later to link to it in FPH.

I remember sending a modmail to FPH about this and they contacted the admins and had both account shadowbanned. (Maybe /u/AADworkinShitlordAlt can weigh on this?)

This was the thread. Check OP's /u/always2late2 page.

[–]AADworkinShitlordAlt 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The one you are referring to was a troll pretending to be a father posting a false flag in FPH, which was promptly removed and reported.

If any other subreddit experiences brigading, they should report it to the admins, as they can determine the means by which the alleged brigaders arrived.

[–]Infu-P -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Sounds like the perfect excuse to me.

Hey, if you're gonna spout stuff straight out of /r/conspiracy then so may I.

[–]Fat_Burner -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

You can believe what you want. Why did reddit shadowbaned /u/always2late2 then?

I don't see any reason why reddit admins would keep FPH open if they were actively encouraging people to suicide or brigade. Even /u/kickme444 stated publicly that he's ashamed of that place.

It's funny that you mention /r/conspiracy. Your only proof of wrongdoings here is a screenshot of uneddit page without context.

[–]Infu-P 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

No context? If you look at the responses you can see that they are clearly from FPH, as no other community would say those things as a group.

[–]Fat_Burner -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"Clearly from FPH" is subjective and not evidence by a long shot.

[–]Infu-P 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Alright. Mhm. So we got the theory that some nasty FPHers brigaded the thread after they saw she got banned from her own thread and then got banned from FPH and shadowbanned from reddit, or some random redditors with no affliction with FPH randomly got together to call an obese girl fat and insult to her to dehumanizing levels for absolutely no reason, and then proceeded to get banned from a subreddit they had no affliction to.

Yea, Im gonna go with the 1st one. Where there is no proof, there is guessing. And if you're a normal human, you guess whats most likely based on the evidence laid in front of you.

I have no proof it was FPH, but I do have a pretty waterproof theory based on how human interactions work and how their behavior matches those off FPH.

You have no proof it wasnt FPH but some people staging a takedown, but neither do you have any theory to disprove that it was.

[–]Fat_Burner -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You accuse FPH of breaking reddit rules, the burden of proof is on you, not me. "Waterproof theory" is not gonna work. This is not /r/conspiracy.

From my perspective, I believe reddit admins, who are the only ones who can confirm this, looked into this case and determined it wasn't FPH. They have absolutely no incentives to keep this subreddit around if they broke the rules. They did ban /r/pcmasterrace which is a lot less controversial than FPH.

[–]XPythagoras -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If someone was new to reddit, and was, say, overweight and uncomfortable with their body, would they feel like they were being attacked? Not right off the bat, because of anonymity and the ability to chose what to see and hear each one of us has the right to silence others. There's no reason why this user would know FPH exists! Because he/she curated his/her content! We don't need mods to curate for us, we do it ourselves every day.

[–]rtechie1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I'm not going to stop shaming and putting people down because of their ideology.

White nationalists for example.

[–]the_federalist -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

In the words of Lisa Simpson, "just don't look." Don't go into the sub and you won't see any of their content. Ta da! It's like they were never there at all.

[–]subsequent 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's like ignoring that your lawn is burning by closing the windows. My point is that it's cyberbullying and that's illegal.

There's a difference between me hating a sports team and ignoring their subreddit and this situation.

[–]the_federalist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's like ignoring that your lawn is burning by closing the windows.

Firstly, people who are bullied need to learn how to take it because the world is not a kind place. But that's beside the point.

Secondly, in order for the behavior to qualify as cyberbullying, there has to be a recipient. "Everyone who uses the internet" is not specific enough to qualify as bullying.

Thirdly, for it to be cyberbullying, there has to be intent to harm. Good luck proving that there is an intent to harm an individual or a user. Certainly there will be instances like that and those should be dealt with, but that's not typical. PS I'm working from the legal definition here since you stated that the activity in those subs is cyberbullying and illegal.

Fourthly, for it to be cyberbullying, the person must be repeatedly targeted.

So no, it's not cyberbullying and it's not illegal. It's a bunch of assholes having fun at the expense of a bunch of other people for their own entertainment. Unless and until they repeatedly target a specific individual with the intent to harm that person, it's not bullying.

Thus, no fire on your lawn. A fire in your neighbor's fireplace.

[–]Ios7 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Found the fattie!

Serious question: is my comment will be considered harassment?