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[–]oeroo 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Time to have fun in BGs! :D

[–]MadManAmbrose 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Are BG's actually fixed now? If so, I might just go back into pvp'ing on my DK!

[–]felmyst 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No more bots for now, so yes!

[–]BasedSano 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

also not getting interrupted on "almost instant cast" shit is really nice too.

Maybe my pvp friends will comeback :<

[–]Aedeus 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Please don't spread misinformation, there are still bots I've been seeing them all day so far.

[–]internetvictim 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Mate and I queued for a lvl 100, and for the first time encountered bots. The healer (priest) and a warlock. Whoever coded that bot had no fucking clue because we wiped so many times whilst waiting for the kick timeout to clear.

It'd be really nice if bliz implemented an on-demand Captcha.

Say you suspect someone of botting, everyone votes "that looks like a bot", that person gets a game relevant Captcha to complete. Put a cooldown on it and require a minimum number of votes to prevent abuse, and botting becomes 10x harder.

[–]FailsAtEverythign 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (9子コメント)

That's a great idea, tbh. Maybe a once/instance check, or even a Captcha so you can queue in the first place.

[–]tictacotictaco 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This was discussed in these forums already, I don't remember where exactly or where I can find it again, but people have explained that there are plenty of bots that can get past that. Hopefully someone can elaborate more.

[–]Ikarikaze 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

That sounds like such a hassle, but would destroy the botters pretty quick

[–]Ganrokh 131 ポイント132 ポイント  (57子コメント)

My guild lost our raid leader, one of our top DPS, and our two top healers to the ban wave. While we will recover, most of the guild has taken a "darn Blizzard for banning our players!" approach when it should really be "darn our players for botting and breaking the ToS!". It's a bit sad.

[–]fenril3 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (5子コメント)

When I was a raid leader back in TBC I wanted to kick one of our players for botting in battlegrounds. Half of the guild was for it and the other half was against it. He was caught botting and was banned for a week and I was smiling.

When you are committing to others to raid it is very stupid and selfish to bot and I am happy to see people get banned for this.

[–]Melicalol 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I really wanna sub back to wow and get a good laugh. So many of these players deserve account closure not just 6 month ban. Using bots to basically play for them deserves an account closure. I am surprised blizzard won't comment on why its only 6months.

[–]Lunux 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I bet it's because it's a first time offense for many people and they just want to make the statement that from now on they are not putting up with it. That and they want people to be able to buy future expansions.

[–]ThreshTrash 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (10子コメント)

So last night I started leveling a Dwarf Shaman and I noticed there were A LOT more new players without heirlooms leveling too. Could be just a coincidence but my guess is that they are people who got banned and now they're leveling a new account.

[–]Duranna144 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I'm not sure how the heirloom tab works, but I know that your heirloom gear is battle net account bound, so in theory if they were banned on one WoW account, they should be able to still use their heirlooms (could be wrong, if the heirloom tab isn't cross account, though)

[–]jimjam1022 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah you can link a new bnet account to your main account and still have access to the looms and mounts I guess.

Unless your entire account is locked down during a ban. (which am not sure of?)

[–]tictacotictaco 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The heirloom tab I'm sure, isn't cross account. Battle.net bound means that it's only accessible on the characters in that specific account.

[–]Duranna144 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I know back in Cata, when I did the SoR thing on an older WoW account of mine, I was able to give my toon on my other WoW account (linked to the same bnet account) my heirlooms, so unless they changed that, battlenet account includes all WoW accounts under the same bnet tag.

[–]thehandymancan 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even if you get banned you can create a new game-account on top of the old one. This means that you still have all your heirlooms and titles

[–]Skrittz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's probably coincidence, you can use heirlooms from your old account on a new one, and blizz doesn't ban your whole bnet account, only singular WoW accounts.

[–]kleintrpt 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (54子コメント)

So perhaps some Mythic raiding guilds lost some personnel recently...

Hey there! I just met you. And this is crazy,

But here's my i689 Fury, invite me maybe?

EDIT: See below:

Tomoken#1144

Armory

All I currently have for logs

Was 14/14H SoO AotC (5.4) 10 man, Currently only 10/10H BRF (Terrible guild luck; always an issue with not having enough people)

EDIT 2: Link to a more conclusive /r/wowguilds posting

[–]methospriest 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (34子コメント)

aww sorry man, turns out the next ban wave is because you play melee dps

[–]Ikarikaze 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (33子コメント)

Confirmed, Being melee in Mythic is cause for kick/ban.

[–]I_EAT_POOP_AMA 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (23子コメント)

every dps but boomkin are banned

[–]Ikarikaze 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Don't forget atleast 3 hunters (to chain Fox). No non monk tanks either.

[–]I_EAT_POOP_AMA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

fox is gone in 6.2 so hunters are useless now /s

[–]Westy543 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If I can't garrison hearth while running in circles, that's pretty much useless!!

[–]Cheatshaman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh thank god. Safe until next patch still.

[–]Mastrcapn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hey, and you need a mage to use Time Warp.

[–]_apa_ 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Hunters can do that with a pet, sorry!

[–]Mastrcapn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah. Pink flamingos can't use bloodlust and are mandatory for mythic raiding.

[–]vindecima 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's why you have the lust pet out and your other 4 slots filled with pink flamingos. It turns Stampede into an insta-fabulous button.

[–]Ikarikaze 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Resto shamans are one of the strongest healers...they have bloodlust, nope sorry, no mages.

[–]vindecima 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We got about 5-6 bans in our mythic group, none of the hunters got hit... Sounds like we'll be running Blackhand with 5 hunters this week, should be interesting

[–]Valnar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

What about hunters, how do they compare to boomkins?

[–]I_EAT_POOP_AMA 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

not boomkins

[–]OBrien 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Cons:

-Not Boomkins

Pros:

+Give Boomkins Fox

[–]vindecima 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Cons:
- Fox being removed

Pros:
+ Can reroll Boomkin

[–]GW_throwaway69 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

:(

I feel like this is the truth in heroic, too. Blackhand time! "Warriors are great in stands! Send the warrior!" Wait, what?! NO, PLEASE NO. I spend more time flying away from blackhand and then trying to get back to blackhand that I actually spend hitting blackhand.

I should have rolled

[–]kleintrpt 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I'm hoping for DPS warrior to become the 6.1 Boomkin of 6.2.

One can dream.

[–]aos7s 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

yea but unless they randomly give warriors some amazing utility spell or cooldown they wont be much use unless tanking. first kills warriors didnt have much of a spot for blackhand cause of it.

[–]Ikarikaze 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Warriors while good at killing adds in stands are abysmal for survivability up top, DKs and monks so much stronger. But really it comes down to the fact that Blackhand is almost always moving and warriors are crap when the boss has to continually move (especially if you have a roll happy Monk tank who never sits still)

[–]jongiplane 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

As if you do damage before execute phase lol

[–]Tizzysawr 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We were going to start Mythic progression yesterday after getting Heroic Blackhand down on Tuesday.

Then our tank got banned, and we suspect a couple DPS too since our roster barely had 13 people last night.

[–]ally-gator58 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Ill add to the list. Ive got 6 raiders: tank, 2 healers (holy/disc priest & resto sham) and 3 dps (2 ranged, 1 melee) looking for a home. Were all 685+ and 8/10H.

Edit: US - Alliance. Were on a dying server. Recruiting is painful at this point.

[–]corpuscle634 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Alliance or Horde?

[–]ally-gator58 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Alliance

[–]Michelanvalo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What classes are the tank, ranged and melee? and can the tank also have a DPS spec?

[–]ally-gator58 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Im the tank, Blood DK, I can yea but Im a much better tank than dps (and Id have to learn UH) Lock, Hunter and Ret Pally (Who can also play Prot and Holy)

[–]danscabra 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

not a good time to be a warrior my friend

[–]MelGibsonMeinFuhrer 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It is if he wants to pvp!

[–]kleintrpt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It certainly is not haha. My latest, short-lived guild was up to 4...

Yea... 4...

It wasn't pretty.

[–]AlfredJodocusKwak 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Filthy casuals. 2 warrior tanks + 4 dps warriors out of 10-12 raid members.

[–]Doriineia 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'll jump on this bandwagon, 684 Prot Pally or 684 fire/arcane Mage!

Edit: Should have included earlier, wasn't fully serious when posted, Alliance-US, 4/10M exp, 10/10H on mage, no mage logs because I've geared almost solely through pugs.

[–]baconholic963 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We might be recruiting a mage. We're not sure yet if one of ours got banned. We're horde side and 3/10 (will be for 4 Sunday) mythic.

We raid Tuesday and Sunday. Tuesday 730-1030 cst and Sunday 630-1030 cst

[–]xbenjyx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Going to latch on. 688 Brewmaster wanting to go further, add me maybe?

[–]You are not preparedaphoenix[S,M] 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (9子コメント)

You can now say "honorbuddy" without having your comment automatically removed from the subreddit. Just still don't link to their site please; we don't want to send traffic to them from here.

[–]vindecima 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

honorbuddy honorbuddy honorbuddy

[–]You are not preparedaphoenix[S,M] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Oh, I forgot to mention you still get banned.

BANNED

[–]wat? what? wut?waahht 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

banned

[–]Baldazar666 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Is this legit or are you fucking with him? :D

[–]You are not preparedaphoenix[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

DON'T QUESTION MY AUTHORI-TAH.

BANNED.

(I'm just fucking around)

[–]Saltyphedre 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

May as well post it as an edit to the OP :P

Edit: on the lawsuit, it's entirely possible Blizz's lawyers told them not to proceed with any actions like this until the lawsuit was concluded.

[–]kalfis049 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I used to bot, but eventually got caught. If you bot overnight and all day everyday, you will be getting caught.

But when WoD came out, there was no need to bot in BGs. You could get fully PVP geared in under an hour in Ashran(until blizz nerfed it).

The professional botters will just keep botting no matter what. They expect and prepare for bans. They know what they're doing.

The casual botters are the ones hurt the most by this.

[–]love-from-london 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can still get fully honor geared in an afternoon in Ashran, even after the nerf. Just gotta win events, which is easy if you're Horde because all Ally want to do is fight mid.

[–]sbowesuk 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

ITT: "I only used my bot for fishing. Honest!"

[–]morgoth95 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"and i had to there was literally no way for me to do it on my own like thousands of other players and i don't want to waste my precious gold on food"

[–]beefkin 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (37子コメント)

http://www.kaesler.eu/verkauf-von-virtuellen-gegenstaenden-in-diablo-iii-blizzard-entertainment-nimmt-antrag-auf-einstweilige-verfuegung-zurueck/?lang=en

So blizzard lost a lawsuit to the owners of honorbuddy. My guess is that they have had the ability to detect it all along but chose to strike out now as a means to spit in the face of bossland (no one will be buying their bots)

[–]Babylonius 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (30子コメント)

They likely were developing the ability to detect and react to it for awhile but didn't want to act until the legal matter was handled.

[–]lunchtimereddit 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (28子コメント)

blizzard always do bans in waves, it makes their lives easier and has a larger impact across the community as opposed to that one guy that gets banned everyday.

[–]Exystredofar 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (16子コメント)

And you have to admit it is effective. If these bans had been spread out over months, then no one would really have noticed, but this brings everything into a spotlight. A spotlight no one wants to be in because they know they fucked up.

[–]lunchtimereddit 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Exactly and wow is not really one of those games that requires large amounts of time botting as the leveling process is pretty easy and streamlined. Obviously if you have 11 characters it gets boring but try other MMOs with their ridicously small exp gains and kill 100 of these quests and go back and do the same which is literally just a time dump.

I could get botting that.

[–]Ikarikaze 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Everquest back when it came out, 33 hours /played to ding level 12, confirmed.

[–]Poxx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And dying at your bind point = back to square one. Saw a guy (mage?) lose 40 levels on the Dead side of Lower Guk because he bound himself near the exit and got trained.

[–]Ikarikaze 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha yeah, although you were supposed to bind on the UPPER GUK side of things, much less dangerous (level 17s that wouldn't even aggro you if you were good)

[–]Swineflew1 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The title says they withdrew the injunction, but the article says the appeal was overturned.
I've heard Blizz withdrew that particular complaint becuase gold in D3 is worthless now and they have other motions with more legal weight.
Love for someone versed in legal-fu give us a laymen version.

[–]BoredTyrannosaurus 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You would need someone with the actual legal arguments because there is really just a comment. I am assuming based on the comment that by having a real money AH, that Blizzard ran a monopoly on the market that was anticompetitive. If you can buy gold to purchase items in game for cheaper, then why can't you use that instead of the Blizzard market.

Purely conjecture, but I don't speak enough German and I've only read the highly distilled comments on the subject, which is hardly enough to provide a firm explanation.

[–]pm_me_craftworlds 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't understand how thats not a lay up for blizzard and the legal system

[–]mrJones2k 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

it clearly says diablo iii, that has nothing to do with honorbuddy users .

[–]TheFieryTaco 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, Bossland also provides Demonbuddy.

But much more cheaters flock in from Honorbuddy, and that's where Bossland makes most of their money, so why not strike them where it hurts most instead of potentially only taking down Demonbuddy users.

[–]Eorkern 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Any "known" streamer got banned ?

[–]IfrezzEU 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Some blunts guy, never watched him personally though so can't say how big he is. Just heard that in another thread.

[–]nowedger 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Xaryu

[–]Rankerqt 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Has he made a statement or anything yet?

[–]Daffan 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He was streaming all day, on a new account i think, level 95 already. when he was playing a character called "6 months"

[–]Walktimus 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I've been botting since the Pirox days, botted well into every expansion including WoD. Everything from week long leveling bouts with no logouts, to 12 hours on/12 hours off herb+mining on 4+ accounts to supplement income for months while I was in between jobs. I've done the battlegrounds thing to gear out multiple characters in honor gear. Maxed professions on newly made characters in under a day. You name it, I've probably botted it.

It's hilarious to see people crying about being banned. I get the idea, blizzard has always been pretty lax about it. You get banned once, and a quick email to a GM with a bogus story gets you unbanned 75-80% of the time. Sure the second permaban is indisputable, but at that point you have at least a month to RMT gold for a new account.

Good to see them stepping up with some lengthy bans, but this won't stop the real botters. This stops the raiders using rotation bots and people farming BGs on their mains. The real botters have enough invested and have the experience (30 minute breaks at random 1-3hr intervals) to get right back on the horse and keep fucking your economy.

Good to see some bans, but this isn't the way to stop big time botters from continuing to plague WoW like they have for the past 10 years.

Feel free to ask any questions if you have 'em, but I'm guessing most will hate to see a self-proclaimed botter laughing at all the bans. I wasn't banned by the way. America.

EDIT: Wanted to provide a little insight into how seriously Blizzard takes botting. This is a screenshot of my account management page showing 2 accounts banned for botting, on the same account as 2 unbanned accounts. If you really wanted to stop bots, why wouldn't you ban the whole account? Because that's 2 more ticking subscription fees. They know I bot, but my money is worth more than the integrity of their game. http://i.imgur.com/8kImoqs.png

[–]dwaters11 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I think rotation/pvp bots were a bigger problem than bots for farming mats and stuff.

As you said, the typical farming bots (Pirox, Glider, HB, etc) have been around since the game started pretty much. The economy is generally adjusted to include these and the addition of such easy to get resources in the garrison both fought and compounded the issue. Botting for mats made less gold for those using them but it also made less gold for people farming normally because it flooded the market. This didn't really affect gameplay, at least not directly.

PvP/rotation bots directly impacted other players. Some people lost raid spots to a bot that could perform a perfect rotation, some people got fed up with PvP due to botting in BGs to farm honor and kickbots. These negatively affect the experiences of people in the game and may have been a cause for people to quit.

I for one let my sub lapse due to the abysmal state of botting in PvP and am planning on subbing back up to try it out again.

[–]Walktimus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

What is surprising to me is that there have been MANY banwaves in the past. Why is this the one that caught all the high-tier raiders in it? Did raiders just now figure out LazyRaider was a thing? Did interrupt bots become prevalent enough in PVP that it was common knowledge they existed/were easily configurable?

I'm still thinking it's more of a show of force from Blizzard to discourage it's playerbase from using buddy bots than it is an honest banwave. They have had the data on botters for a long time. They chose now to act on it, right after they lose litigation against the company that makes the bot? They mad. People getting banned are collateral damage in the quest to smear buddy bots.

[–]dwaters11 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly this is the first time I've heard the combat routine/kick bots being so publicized. Obviously I knew about HB and such but I never knew about top tier guilds using combat routines.

[–]Jayarlol 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Very true. All they're banning are the guys who leveled alts while at work(an example), which didn't really affect anyone or anything. Sure, it's good material for justice boners, but the ACTUAL problem has deeper roots. It's a good solid hit though.

[–]thpthpthp 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Master criminals will always find a way. But like streetlamps and house alarms, this will deter the novices and hooligans that make up the majority.

[–]unitedhen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep. I would venture to guess that a vast majority of the bans were just average players that were using honorbuddy to help them supplement their time. I don't think there is anybody here who won't admit that WoW requires a pretty decent time investment, and many of us work jobs but still want to enjoy the game in the short amount of time per day that we are able to login. What is the difference between someone buying gold that was acquired by a chinese company using armies of bots to farm gold, and someone buying an honorbuddy license and doing it themself?

I know this is just anecdotal, but most of the people I have talked to knows someone or is in a guild with someone who was hit by the banwave. And I don't know any chinese gold farmers, these are people I have no for the better part of a decade playing WoW. Seems to me like they just drove away people who were only hanging on by a thread to begin with and completely cut ties and said good riddance. Down 3 million subs from last quarter and still falling, so I don't know, you tell me if you think they did the right thing.

[–]Artonkn 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Why weren't you banned? How popular is the bot you use?

[–]Walktimus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I haven't played in a few months. I used buddy bots, but this was an almost unavoidable climax to their business model. They made the difficult to use pirox/glider platform into something a monkey could configure. You introduce a large number of users into the botting scene when you remove the barrier of entry of configuring the bot.

[–]Solidux 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Is there any reason why blizzard just wont disable the use of the 32 bit version of wow? This is where 99.1875% of injection based bots dwell in.

Is there a sizable playerbase with 8+ year old computers?

[–]You are not preparedaphoenix[S] 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Actually one of the great things about wow is the fact you can play it on potatoes. We have a few raid members with suboptimal setups and they're still effective. For many of them it's the only "modern" game that they play, though perhaps I should say current instead of modern, since wow isn't all that modern.

[–]Ikarikaze 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So true.

WoW still runs on my P3 1Ghz with 1024mb of RAM and a 10 year old video card. not well, at 1024x768 resolution, but it runs.

(I don't raid on that btw, just that it CAN run on that paperweight)

[–]hugglesaur 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

agreed. I was chatting with my friend last night and she described her set-up as a 'glorified microwave'. She's one of our best healers.

[–]MVPRoboticide 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It won't be long I imagine before we start seeing some advanced appliances (already are, for refrigerators at least) and someone hacks it to play WoW.

[–]Mostass 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used to raid on a 2ghz dual core with 4 gigs of ddr2 ram, around 30fps on low settings while raiding.Not terrible but it was still pretty bad for raiding.Now that i got an upgrade i can play on high with 40-50 fps while raiding, makes a huge difference. Everything except for raiding and garrison ran quite well on my old pc, got 60+ fps on medium, but i guess WoW just loves eating cpu and ram while raiding

[–]jimjam1022 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I raid (10/10H now going to start mythic) on my core i3 3rd generation, Intel HD 4000 graphics laptop. Part HD resolution display.

It does suck when I compare it to proper raiders on twitch or my guildies themselves; but it does the job.

Wonder if it can handle mythic though. Not to mention I play at 250-300ms because of the geographical location.

[–]AnticScarab3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

And for all of those customers that they turned away, what good would it do, really? If 32-bit WoW was discontinued, how long would it be before someone coded a bot that worked in 64-bit? Unless it's just not possible to bot in 64-bit (maybe it is, I don't know much about these things), they wouldn't really be solving the problem. They'd just be kicking the can a little further down the road.

[–]Bestorworst 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (11子コメント)

For some inexplicable reason, my uber-powerful machine cannot get the 64 bit to launch. Crashes every time.

[–]littlegecko 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is a sizable gamer base with 32 bit versions of their OS (about 15% according to Steam's HW survey, check for the OSes that don't say 64 bit) and upgrading from 32 to 64 is non-trivial for your average computer user.

[–]monkeythyme 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Computer security is all about secrecy. If the guys making the not don't know how its being detected, then they can't prevent against it. Disabling the version of wow that bots use is a very obvious change, and a very short term fix.

[–]Sethisto 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

FINALLY.

Every time I brought it up here I'd get hell for it too.

This is the greatest news I've heard in forever. Nothing was more aggravating than seeing bot trains in BGS and bot trains mining/herbing everything. Good on you blizzard!

[–]Empty_Allocution 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just battlegrounded.

THERE WERE NO BOTS. I BATTLEGROUNDED!!! :")

[–]Axa2000 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

In honour of the ban wave I just reactivated my account.

Seriously the shit here about two sides to this ban wave and how you're butthurt your buddies are banned and you can't raid farm is a complete joke.. the fact that they were caught cheating isn't more of a shock? the bots have damaged this games enjoyment A LOT and there's so many cheaters thinking it's normal to bot that they think this is odd is the worrying factor.

[–]SiFixD 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm considering coming back, my work schedule means i can only play @EU nights, and i like to play casual battlegrounds / Arena. It's been PLAGUED with bots at night for several expansions and if it's better now i'm going to be so pleased.

[–]gkane19 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (16子コメント)

My guild master (as well as 5 others in my raid team) was banned mid raid due to using a fishing bot and the guild has now, pretty much, fallen apart. That's what really stings here for me. My 6/10 mythic progression has been halted because of fucking fishing!!

[–]Bobmcguire 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It was halted because of fishing. It was halted because of botting.

[–]gkane19 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh I hear you boss and I agree he's a fud... Still stings!

[–]Ryuko23 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (4子コメント)

While it sucks for you, they were idiots for using it and expecting to be safe.

[–]mainlobster 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

On the bright side, a 6/10 Mythic Rogue shouldn't have any real issues finding a decent guild. Rogues are the only melee that don't really get too fucked over in BRF and can actually not be a total liability on M Blackhand.

[–]Banditjack 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (30子コメント)

There is no shades of grey to this. You bot, you deserve to get banned. Don't want to get banned, don't cheat.

Cheating a tiny bit (once a month or whatever) is still cheating. You and the bot daily guy deserve the same punishment.

[–]Guyd 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I am convinced that 95% uses a bot or had used it. In fact none of my friends or any of the people I know that play wow uses a bot. The problem lies within blizzard, not the players.

[–]Johnersss 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (74子コメント)

If anybody here is actually man enough to admit that they used a bot at any point in the history of WoW, why did you do it?

[–]Tehgumchum 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I used a Jeeves once

[–]berlinbaer 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (3子コメント)

my pleasurebot is solely for the tailoring hut i swear.

[–]floatablepie 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

He's got suck nimble fingers... for stitching I mean.

[–]mstieler 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I make Blingtrons fight to the death, and my Mechanical pets seem to be pretty handy.

[–]xLith 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (34子コメント)

I'll probably be downvoted to hell but I'll try and share as much information honestly as possible. I was banned yesterday on my launch-day account. I started using Honorbuddy in December of last year. I was using it for garrison chores, leveling alts via questing and CRs for raiding. I didn't use it in arenas and I didn't use it to abuse the economy. I wasn't caught in the recent banwave that happened a few months ago but I truly feel I was flagged at that point. There were others I know that were banned at that time and were using the garrison bots only (allegedly).

I'm approaching 32, have a more than a full time job, a beautiful 6 mo baby and a lovely wife. I'm not excusing my botting by any means, just giving perspective. Life is good. Life is great. I just can't sit and grind every night for hours like I used to. I don't have the time I used to for the game and I still enjoyed playing it. It's good timing though. I was only logging on 2 nights a week for raids lately and knew I was on borrowed time. Either I was going to get banned or life was going to demand the rest of my time. Both have happened it seems.

[–]Beetlebomb 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

In the exact same position.

[–]textur3 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Is Combat Routines actually worth using? I imagine good play would be more effective than having a bot playing for you?

[–]Duranna144 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sometimes, you have to decide what is important: the game or life. I used to do the full time raiding thing, used to spend hours and hours playing the game. But as I've gotten older, married, my wife and I do long bike trips that require training, I just don't have time to do it anymore. I had to make a choice of what was important to me, and putting in the time to do all the farming in WoW just wasn't the priority. It doesn't excuse cheating. There are tons of people with real life obligations (I work with a few in your shoes who also play WoW), and by botting you are getting ahead of them, even though they share the same obligations you do.

[–]Icy Veinsckernan2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I understand your time was limited, but did you not realize your borrowed time was going to affect your guild, too? Now they're having to replace you. If you were good, they have big shoes to fill. Good timing for you, maybe, but not your former team.

[–]Squampson 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It kind of seems like you're excusing it.

I'm around that age. I know I can't keep up with people in FPS games because I don't have the time to practice. Not to mention, my reflexes just aren't what they used to be.

Does that mean I go and get myself an aimbot so I can compete? No.

[–]SunshineHighway 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Man enough? It's not like they're admitting to some atrocity. They had a program play a video game for them.

[–]lamebotter93 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

After playing since vanilla you get bored of certain grinds in the game, most of the time I will experience something at least once before botting it (i.e. leveling at the start of a expansion, farming gear and profs on first toon, any other toon leveled would be using a bot).

[–]AfroBanana 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used a bot to level alts, that's it. I've learned my lesson and won't be doing it again.

[–]Xcelence 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used a fishing bot as recently as a month or so ago and I'd let it go while I did homework either on paper or on another tab. I did it more for the lunkers than profits (so I'd be hearthing back to my Garrison every 10 minutes to turn in) which may have kept me off the radar. I feel badly though, one because its cheating, but two because I really enjoy fishing. With this ban wave, and thank god I was sparred, I won't be using it anymore. I think this may be the best outcome for a lot of people, lots of small one time botters or people thinking of doing it will now be very against it. In the long run this will help shape the community better.

[–]dopamean 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Context: I used Honorbuddy to level up a few of my remaining alts to 100 (leveled 4 to 100 legitimately and used a bot for 7 more to get from 90-100). I also used Honorbuddy to take care of my garrison

I've botted and got banned yesterday for 6 months. I deserve what I got.

Why did I do it? I just found leveling boring after the first few times. There wasn't any alternate routes to take apart from I guess choosing a different outpost in specific areas. It felt good to start up a bot, let it run overnight and wake up in the morning and find you'd leveled up to 100. You could finally grab a few BoEs and jump right into heroics / LFR without going through the same content again and again.

With garrisons it was the same. Garrisons are pretty much the worst thing to happen to WoW. Before WoD, the main thing that kept me subscribed towards the end of MoP was gold making. I had every profession, shuffling spreadsheets and I had fun making gold. In WoD professions got destroyed and a lot of gold making tied in with garrisons.

My setup was something I was quite proud of, it would login in the mornings and go through each of my characters. It would send missions out based on ranking system, match treasure hunters to gold missions as a priority etc. It would mine and collect herbs, start and collect all my work orders. After it had cycled through each of my alts it would shutdown.

What it meant was when I came back from work, I wouldn't have to bother wasting any time doing that repetetive garbage and I'd be able to focus on things that I actually enjoyed. It was quite rewarding too, I was making on average around 50k gold per day after crafting various item upgrade tokens.

It took the ban for me to realise that if I am automating parts of the game, can I honestly tell myself that I'm enjoying the game and the answer was no. I just don't enjoy the game as much as I used to. If it wasn't for bots, I would have probably stopped playing after a few weeks of WoD. Having played for 8 years, I really didn't want to leave so I guess I hung onto anything that would let me enjoy the game again for a bit longer.

[–]k1dsmoke 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"It took the ban for me to realise that if I am automating parts of the game, can I honestly tell myself that I'm enjoying the game and the answer was no. I just don't enjoy the game as much as I used to. If it wasn't for bots, I would have probably stopped playing after a few weeks of WoD. Having played for 8 years, I really didn't want to leave so I guess I hung onto anything that would let me enjoy the game again for a bit longer."

This is probably the best realization and the realization I wish a lot more people would come to about the game rather than whining and trying to get the game to conform to their own RL limitations.

People outgrow games. It's okay. Unsub and come back for a month when there is something new to check out.

[–]PassingBalrog 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that is all I am thinking reading these, this is why I botted stories. If you HAVE to bot parts of the game, then either don't use those aspects of the game, or play a different game. There are many aspects of this game, if you use a fishing bot, (for example) why are you fishing, just go buy some if you need them that bad. If the its too tedious to level your 5th alt, play your first 4 characters, there is plenty to do at 100.

[–]0ILERS 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used a BG bot during Cataclysm and got perma banned for it. That was at a point where it took like a month of straight BG grinding just to get your honor gear. I learned my lesson, started a new account, and haven't even considered it since. That's why I'm worried I got banned in this wave (haven't logged in yet), but I am playing on a completely different account, different computer, different IP address, etc. so I imagine I'm good, right?

[–]bot345123 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I like having cool stuff. Tcg mounts and pets, mostly... But I also work a lot... So, its mostly just that I don't have the time for both... Been taking a break the past couple months... So I didn't get banned... But I'll probably continue to do so once I return.

[–]Michelanvalo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I used Glider back in classic to level alts. Questing sucked. Dungeons sucked. So mob grinding while at work it is.

Had a sweet system going too. Grind mobs, go to work, delete items that were white or worse except for cloth. I stopped at about the time Blizzard leveled the lawsuit against Glider and didn't start using it again. Some players did and they got hit hard.

[–]absol1896 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Used to bot years ago, in cata. Then, one day while watching my death knight try to kill people in strands of the ancients, I decided that the bit sucked at pvp and I stopped using it, and started pwning again.

Never botted gathering or leveling, that's stupid.

[–]rondarouseyy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

i botted to avoid mindless grinds ( i also got banned, im not complaining i deserve it ) , i would rather spend my time, working out , studying , spending out time with my friends than leveling, farming gold. when i played wow, i only did arena, a part of the game i enjoy, i used the bot to complete the necessary steps ( honor gear, leveling, etc) for me to be able to do arenas

at this point in my life, I would rather not play wow at all if i cant use a bot, i just cant afford to waste hundred of hours doing things somewhat boring just to be able to play a part of the game i enjoy

[–]Gorehack 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had some friends at the tail end of vanilla who had great success with wowglider.

They had used it for months and months with no problems, so naturally I decided I wanted to give it a shot and level up a warrior before BC was due to hit.

So I get it and fiddle around with it for about 2 hours, finally sort of got it working properly and went to bed (logged off).

Woke up the next morning and Blizzard had dropped the Great Ban Hammer of November 2007.

I had 3 different level 60's with raid gear, tons of gold (for the time) and just...it was soul crushing.

Used a bot for 2 hours and got PERM BANNED.

Every year on the year I would send them an e-mail and respectfully ask for my account to be unbanned, each time they told me to get fucked.

Last year I discovered I was able to convert the old account to a bnet account, so I did that and then put in a report that I got hacked. It was unlocked within 10 minutes.

TL;DR: Used a bot for 2 hours, got my vanilla account banned for 8 fucking years. Never have done it since then and never will.

[–]always_a_plan_B 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One thing I've noticed is that the top three auction house players (in terms of volume) on my server seem to have disappeared. Whenever posting raw mats there were three names I recognized consistently; 2 appear to be gone completely for the first time this year and the third only has auctions expiring in the next few hours.

[–]always_a_plan_B 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Would be interesting to see how the bans interact with Game Time Tokens. If someone redeemed 6 months of tokens are they gone? If someone redeemed a years worth of tokens are they half gone or all gone? Or if they had tokens to buy or sell but not posted/added will they just sit in their bags for 6 months?

[–]360throwawayxxx 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

When my main account was banned I was able to ask a GM to get the remaining gametime that hadn't been activated transfered to my new account.

[–]Icy Veinsckernan2 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What was his response?

[–]360throwawayxxx 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I just asked if he could transfer the time remaining over and he said yeah, but not with the subscription currently pending. So I got 5 months transfered.

[–]Swineflew1 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm thinking since wow tokens are a thing, we may see Blizzard be a bit more active in the botwars.

[–]Ancalagon4554 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I don't bot, but the number of people botting fishing suggests to me that they should make that mechanic more engaging. I know there are people out there who enjoy fishing, but for most people I know it's a mindless, tedious chore.

[–]froderick 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

but for most people I know it's a mindless, tedious chore.

So... like actual fishing?

[–]Ikarikaze 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What this guy said. At least in WoW you're guaranteed a fish at the end of that channel.

[–]dotPanic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or just make the 100 skill books more easily available. 2k GR or something. Or hell, make use of those shitty apexis.

[–]Margull 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If anyone is honestly upset about this, they should blame the freaking people botting in the first place.

Good fucking job Blizzard, my only complaints are that you should have done this sooner, and that there are still bots left even after this enormous spring cleaning. Get the freaking bots out of your game, and make people actually be legit afraid of botting again!

[–]Morgaith 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (11子コメント)

What the fuck is the point of having a bot do all the work for your account huh? Isn't fun in these types of games is the grinding and gearing up?

[–]TheFieryTaco 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I assume it varies from person to person.

Some find the fun in lore, others in the grind, others in collecting achievements/mounts/pets/pepes and maybe some people's definition of fun is winning.

I find that concept quite easy to understand, some people may simply be having fun if they're top-DPS, or on a winning-spree, or rich and surrounded by unlimited mats, fish etc.

So, yeah, the "fun" factor of any game varies depending on who you ask.

[–]15445487 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But are you the richest, the top DPS or be limitless if you only got there because a bot played to game for you ? On paper, it can be and others might look up to you but it's your game / account / characters, you know you are actually nothing without the bots.

Sometimes I like cheating in singleplayer games or playing on easier difficulty modes but without effort or limits, it quickly feels pointless like fishing in one of these farms where there are hundreds of fishes swimming in a little pool ... sure you can catch one but if it's almost impossible not to catch one then you might as well go to the supermarket and buy a dead one.

[–]xLith 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I've been playing MMOs since EQ1. Grinding is no longer fun. I enjoy the end game much more.

[–]Hisetic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I ran a massive bot farm before in TBC on about 5 PCs running 5 accounts each. It was fun setting it up, seeing how much you could do and the revenue I made selling my gold and used characters paid for my electricity, internet and all my wow accounts I used to bot. Did that for about 5 months until I lost a good chunk of assets in a banwave. Still came out way ahead though. Unfortunately, Glider got sued into oblivion so I stopped.

[–]0ILERS 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I haven't tried to log in for a week or so, is it weird that I'm worried that I got banned? I don't play often, and honest to god, I do not bot. Only use "normal" addons like Gladius, Battleground Targets, Recount, etc. But it just seems to be exactly my luck to get banned for nothing. I should be fine though.

[–]froderick 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I had the same fear myself, and I've never botted once. I was just afraid that maybe I would be a false-positive or something and be fucked. But I wasn't. If you haven't botted, one can almost guarantee you'll be fine.

[–]CityOfChamps09 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I logged in as soon as I got home from work just to make sure I wasn't banned. It's a real thing, being paranoid even if you don't bot, cause I've heard of people getting banned by mistake before.

Then again, you hear that with every wave. "HONEST TO GOD I WASN'T BOTTING".

[–]Lebasto 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Does anyone know the numbers here, i mean how big of a ban wave was this?

[–]BunkBuy 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

big enough to make china DDOS the login servers

[–]morgoth95 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

which only has to be a few salty enough to buy bot farms to ddos them with

[–]photonerection 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Been playing 3s with some people helping them get duelist this season. Good dudes, have fun together. I was away two days, came back and they were surprised I wasn't bottling bc of my interrupt success rate. Interesting addition now in safe duelist range. Went up 150 rating. Healer said he was only kicked a few times in maybe 30 games we played last night. Made me really wonder how many people were using it. Games felt easier. Possibly due to ladder changes. Not sure

[–]collegit 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm a bit late to this thread, but I'll post anyways. I was a big time botter back a few years ago from when I was in 11th grade HS to sophomore year of university. I botted at my peak 8 accounts at once farming. I got caught doing something unrelated to botting. It was my fault for being sloppy and I wasn't really upset about losing my accounts, but more the easy income. Across my botting and selling gold I earned ~$5k in profit. All from my gaming ASUS laptop, 8 accounts, and 8 honorbuddy keys. I had them doing various things. One of the accounts was my main account that I had since BC, loved the account but I knew the risks.

Botting was some of the most fun I EVER had in WoW. I set it up in the mornings before school, then in the afternoons paused them and reaped the rewards from 8 hours of "hard" work in just a few of my own.

Once I started turning a profit WoW stopped being a fun game that I paid to enjoy but a business. I was ok with this. I stopped raiding entirely. I did some 2's with my friend but that was about it. Partly because I didn't have time to do much. Especially once I was in uni, last thing i ever wanted to do was actually play wow. It was the best of both worlds. easy money, some fun when i wanted it, and i felt like i was the shit when I was getting money orders for $300-$400 at a time.

Hell sometimes I think of starting my operation right back up. It was so intricate, like 8 guilds each with >500 people grinding for the cash deposit perk. a schedule for when each bot would run, for how long, when to break. all automated by a program that managed the bots themselves. all i had to do was press "go" and they all started up, ran the profiles, all in harmony. it was great.

Last second edit: I see the hate for botters and all. I get it. it takes away from your experience. When I was in my prime I could tell instantly whether someone was a bot or not. It didn't bother me as I botted too. Even when I didn't bot i don't think it bothered me. I get it though

[–]glubbi 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (7子コメント)

What really grinds my gears is that in all the previous ban waves (that I've been banned in as well as tons of my friends), everyone recieved permanent bans. Just because You, Blizzard, lost 3mil customers the past few months doesn't justify my previous actions NOR THE ACTIONS OF THE RECENTLY BANNED PLAYERS. Why am I punished for eternity whereas these guys only were punished for 6 months?

I've been without my level 67 nelf hunter since mid BC due to botting, that's 7 years ago. I've also been banned since mid MoP on my second account. I don't justify my actions the tinies bit. I botted because I wanted to enjoy high end PvP, and nothing else. Grinding honor and conquest points is NOT what I wantED (notice wanted) to do, I only wanted to do arenas. I took the risk, I got banned, and that's that. I'm fine with it.

What I am ABSOLUTELY not fine with is the fact that you have special treatment when your subscriber base has gone to shit. Why was I punished permanently, twice, while these potentially 100000 others only lost their accounts for 6 months?

I'm fine with adding another 6 month bans on my old accounts, as long as I get my druid back. I'm also fine with you changing everyone elses bans to be permanent. But as it is looking right now, I'm just pissed at the way you treat your customers.

TL;DR - I got permanently banned twice before, and I am pissed at the way they gave the "newly" banned people only 6 months. Waited 7 years to get my hunter back.

[–]You are not preparedaphoenix[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There's some indication that the ban is not 6 months, but is in fact permanent. Screenshot is from honorbuddy forum (please don't link there).

[–]Its_Claire 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Do you think Blizzard would lie about a perm ban being temporary? Maybe a 6 month ban will hope refresh the community a bit and allow ex-players (mainly pvpers) to come back?

[–]You are not preparedaphoenix[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I absolutely don't think they would lie, but it's possible that mistakes are being made.

We all make mistakes.

[–]PewPewChicken 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why didn't you just level a new hunter in like 3 days? It's so easy now.

[–]src88 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pvp already feels better with the bot and script losers gone. I only wish that this was a permanent ban.

[–]Rankerqt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

So i recently leveled a new monk to 100 and have been doing a metric shit ton of random bgs. the one thing ive notcied is that que times haave went up by about 3 min from what they were before. has anyone else experienced this? i play on alliance sargeras US btw.

[–]Ikarikaze 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, Queue times went up for most people due to the massive amount of honorbots out there which were in theory, speeding up the queues by just chain queuing.

[–]tg_wl 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Question, can't people that got banned buy another license and add that to their battle.net account and thus they can keep their mounts?

[–]b-neva 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

To anyone that botted........why? I'd love to see someone explain why they used them knowing the risk of being banned. Was it worth it?

edit: Are there any Raiders out there who used the rotation bot want to respond?

[–]Cazzleck -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yes like the op, I have bottled for years and playing wow does turn into a business at one point, but it does cost money to invest, I've made 4k+ from WoW and another 8k back On Phantasy star universe, money is easy to get. And someone always wants to buy more game gold

[–]dotPanic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Whats even to bot in WoD? Reputation? Honor, for gear you should get while doing what you get gear for.. PvP?

[–]bot345123 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've botted about 400k gold this xpac alone. Super casual otherwise. Not banned due to fortunate timing of taking a wow vacation.

[–]highlow33 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Only person we lost was someone that got a job somewhere else (construction) and in a company supplied condo for the past 3 months. His ban was for exploiting alternate account. He doesn't play much and didn't really care. Ironically yesterday he was going to raid w. us for the first time in 3 months (work slowing down to < 60 hours/wk) but got banned. He's been playing D3 recently which is why he doesn't give a fuck.

[–]KingRaptorSlothDude 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Anyone using Auto Hotkey getting bans?

[–]Grimsterr 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've heard not one single report of this, AHK has been considered "ok" for a long time.

[–]ConebreadIH 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

WAIT BGS ARE BGS AGAIN INSTEAD OF RUN FESTS?

[–]Sphinctuss 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They had a simular bot ban wave in January 2014. My main was banned then.

Nothing new. They know who is botting.