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[–]Evilbunz 211 ポイント212 ポイント  (50子コメント)

He was a problem in it as well. All of CLG was including him but the biggest blame can never go to any player, the biggest blame will and should always go to the management for being so incompetent.

HotshotGG was supposedly bringing out more change... and I guess the change was Pobelter (seriously??) and Huhi and they only got in because Link left on his own.

Great change mate. See you in relegations again.

EDIT: Link describing their trip to Korea sounds like a hangover movie.... Monte needs to explain what exactly happened there on SI. So much juicy drama from double / aphro bromance ending, Monte walking out of door after scrims and losing face, Seraph strait up telling Dexter to never come top. Like WTF happened in Korea?

[–]iChoke 157 ポイント158 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Monte's response Pt. 1

Monte's Response Pt. 2

[–]TweetsInCommentsBot 123 ポイント124 ポイント  (11子コメント)

@ggCMonteCristo

2015-05-14 06:31 UTC

Let's just say I have a different opinion on Link's version of CLG. I'm not interested in digging up the past. I wish him the best of luck.

@ggCMonteCristo

2015-05-14 06:38 UTC

I never gave up on the players. I volunteered to fly to CA to coach through relegations, but was turned down. I tried to see the job through

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[–]viscountprawn(EU-W) 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I love that the twitter bot's flair is a blue bird.

[–]xCurrensy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ofc monte would have a different opinion of clg, he wasnt there

[–]BlindRapture 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hated Monte for a really long time but after the way he handled the CLG debacle and how he continues to remain classy in light of the giant clusterfuck that is that team, I've grown to respect him quite a bit.

[–]Adonna55 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Monte is such a class act and I really respect him for it.

[–]augustinel 142 ポイント143 ポイント  (3子コメント)

what happens in korea stays in korea

[–]PlasmaAxis 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Nah you're thinking of North Korea.

[–]nelly676 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

nah north koreas motto is "whoever enters korea usually has to stay in korea....PLEASE HELP ME OH GOD"

[–]Aeliandil -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Been to Korea, can confirm

[–]Riazzu 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Who would you have brought in for mid lane. I can't think of a single player who would be able to compete/beat bjergsen AND want to play for CLG. Despite CLG being a huge name, they've finished outside the top 4 for the second time in a row. CLG has been my favorite team and will continue to be my favorite team, but honestly they are playing for money and if you don't win you don't get as much money. You could say that they should have gotten Incarnati0n but why the fuck would he choose CLG over C9. It's a no brainer. I think that Pobelter was probably the best choice they could have made and maybe he'll step up, who knows.

[–]Creation_Soul 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would say CLG is a middle of the pack team, despite having a big name. They have gotten top 3 only 1 split out of 5. The problem is CLG is known for bad team environment, so they can't just buy a Bjergsen or an Incarnation. What good player would even come to play for CLG, unless their other options are even worse (see zion from Dig or Pobelter from a relegated team).

[–]Mr-BigDick 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Pobelter is by no means a bad player. Solid pickup by CLG IMO. Maybe not as high profile as Bjerg or Incarnation, but hes definitely solid and best of all he has POTENTIAL

[–]cespinar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Alex Ich offered to try out for mid lane before spring split.

[–]flous 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

could have got alex.ich but ofc clg didnt even give him tryout

[–]rockaeroo 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe it was seraph who left during scrims which can be seen on chasing the cup.

https://youtu.be/BjjAdIAP4Xg?t=9m3s Here.

[–]squngy 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Well, what I gather is that the team never was very good at listening to Monte (especially on Skype) and also felt that Monte wasn't doing enough.

After a while of this Monte gave up on them, and stopped trying.

[–]ssupermario92 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (2子コメント)

honestly can you blame monte?

[–]Komparativist 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, exactly. Reading the shit that happened between the players, I'm not at all surprised he gave up. There are actually numerous examples of his frustration about his time on CLG, all on SI, you can check some VODs, I think it's CandyPanda episode first and then some new ones, xPeke maybe? Where he says that the "structure" is holding them back, but he never elaborated on that, now Link did.

[–]squngy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I was just writing my interpretation of Links views.

As I have no clue how things actually were, I can't blame anyone.

[–]-Teekey- 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seemed like the felt Monte was smart, but that he just couldn't connect with the players and wasn't effective from a distance (which isn't completely his fault, it's just a suboptimal situation for all involved). Then they had a big fallout during the Korean Bootcamp, and all trust was lost between him and the team.

It's nice that he offered to go to CA to coach in person, but after ditching them in Korea, I can understand why it was turned down.

[–]dreamingOwl 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The hardest point for me was the bromance ending. Like, all this time I thought they were on great terms and just a bot lane duo that meshed really well but then the trip to Korea ended it all? Damn.

Also I lol'd at Seraph telling that to Dexter.

[–]tharan1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Why would you ever tell your jungler to never gank for you as a top laner? Do you know how many top laners want just 1 gank?

[–]dchart 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Dyrus is still waiting for his...

[–]cespinar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I think Link and DL were the sources that Loco and Regi used to talk shit about Monte. I remember them saying it was from people in CLG but they wouldn't say who. It kinda makes sense when you take into account such as this and Monte's recent talk where he dodged a question about if DL was uncoachable.

[–]llshuxll 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I honestly believe Monte tried his best in Korea. But what it sounds like was the team was just uncoachable and did not listen to Monte. Since he never had authority over the team, he got fustrated and just quit.

[–]pricezz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't just blame management when there is clear issues with the players under performing.

[–]AricNeo -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Honestly I'm really disappointed in Monte (not that I was ever a huge fan), but if you're a coach (espeically hired, so paid too) you don't just fucking walk out and ditch the team, like wtf.

[–]sandrzero 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im sry but this isnt fair to Monte or any other coaches that does remote coaching, he lives in korea, he is a caster/analyst there, why would he give up that to coach a bunch of teenagers that holds ur job in their hands and if they feel like it kick u out for no reason? 2 point - As a coach he tried to coach them, even him admit he failed to see the problems the players had with each other cause its hard when all u got its 4 hours of Skype, and still put everything u have on those 4 hours, to what? Players jerking around on redit social media and dont listen pay attention? What kind of bullshit is this, and even after all he did, if they failled he got flammed by everyone, saying he dint coach them at all. What realy pissed me off was Link saying that 3 weeks he came to NA, when after that CLG went on doing great, saying 'it was ok lol' or 'its just a sivir comp u group and fight right', the guy did hid best despite being far from the team and still got throwed to the trash like nothing.

[–]Hiiwa 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Well I remember they were losing scrims to Xenic B TEAM hahahahahahahah

No wonder it completly fucked them even harder

[–]DominoNo- 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fnatic lost to the Samsung training team. And they weren't even a competitive playing team.

[–]DFA1969 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But good teams react well/ learn from tough losses, they don't go on an internal rampage like CLG does according to Link.

[–]KentuckyMax 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They also won against some of the best korean teams, what's your point?

[–]Legumeee[CurryshotGG] (NA) -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

HotshotGG was supposedly bringing out more change... and I guess the change was Pobelter (seriously??) and Huhi and they only got in because Link left on his own.

This part isn't accurate, there is a lot of hate on management for the wrong reasons. Some people think I might be comitting career suicide by saying this, but Huhi will be the Faker of NA.