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[–]GreenAdder 155 ポイント156 ポイント  (20子コメント)

" Theron sure talked a lot during the trailers while I don’t think I’ve heard one line from Hardy."

IMDB trivia for "Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior" (1982)

Mel Gibson only had 16 lines of dialogue in the entire film, and two of them were: "I only came for the gasoline."

Max being the "strong, silent type" isn't exactly a new concept.

[–]All_The_Ragrets 44 ポイント45 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't that his whole thing? I thought it was awesome that they kept that in the movie. Not a whole lot of dialogue in the movies iirc.

[–]voodootrucker61 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Always remember it as road warrior when did they add the mad max 2

[–]piddlystains [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In North America the original Mad Max wasn't successful so marketing it as a sequel, especially when it doesn't have strong ties to the predecessor, just didn't make sense. In Australia, and maybe in European markets, was marketed as a sequel since it was better received there.

[–]kurisu7885 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Max is the wise man, he speaks up when he has something to say, that's it.

[–]Baresark 60 ポイント61 ポイント  (22子コメント)

What's the big deal? Arnie hardly said anything in the first Terminator movie, yet he is the person most associated with the film. Tom Hardy could say fuck all as Mad Max as long as he was a compete and utter bad ass when he's doing it.

[–]gilthanan 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

As is often repeated on Reddit, Anthony Hopkins was only on the screen for about 15 minutes of Silence of the Lambs.

[–]bageloid [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And Ben Bishop is 6'9 on skates!

Wait, wrong subreddit.

[–]BigScarySmokeMonster [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

And yet the first two Terminator movies are about Sarah Connor's progression from mousy waitress to hardened badass icon of mankind, mother of the most important soldier of the bleak future.

[–]Fistocracy 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (17子コメント)

The big deal is that if the trailer's anything to go by, Charlize Theron's character is the co-lead and a major protagonist in her own right rather than just some damsel who needs rescuing.

And apparently this offends the delicate sensibilities of men who own fedora collections.

[–]idofbatosai 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But but but explosions are OURS!

[–]janizary 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Uh, you seem confused.

The fedora tipping gentlemen would be entirely in support of feminist movies. That's what white knights do.

They pretend to be interested in wymyn's issues in the hope that some day they may be within a few feet of a vagina.

You are confusing neckbeards and dudebros. Two entirely different types of idiotic stereotypes.

Neckbeards will fight tooth and nail for even the stupidest of feminist ideas, dudebros will fight against women leaving a kitchen.

[–]galacticengine 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The original use of the fedora meme was for 20-something white men who were likely politically libertarian and avid MRAs or PUAs and militant atheists. /pol/ capret bombed 4chan for months in order to turn that stereotype around onto white 20-something men who were atheist but politically left/democrat and avid SJWs.

Edit: Exhibit A: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UL1B3DSZSo

Exhibit B: http://i58.tinypic.com/14kb9n5.png

[–]sir_snufflepants [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Found the butt hurt fedora wearer.

[–]janizary [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Memes are a fast moving example of social and ideological evolution.

The strong survive and are reproduced.

Clearly /pol/ won.

It is evolution baby.

[–]AwesomeGuy847 [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Oh please tell me you using "wymyn" instead of women is some kind of joke.

[–]janizary [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Was my use of women later in the same post not enough to indicate my feelings to stupid spellings of words for no goddamned reason?

[–]sonixflash [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

you get all my up votes today

[–]DashingLeech [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

What's the stereotype/nickname for the men and women who have legitimate grievances for how both men and women are mistreated in various different circumstances, and against misinformation/misandry of radical feminism and misogynistic/sexist men. Egalitarian is largely correct technically but it sounds too academic.

[–]Fuzzdump [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Neckbeards have always been associated with MRA culture. No idea where you're getting this idea.

[–]NotPercyChuggs [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You spend too much time on the internet.

[–]torpedoguy 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Aye, that's an excellent point. I haven't seen the movie yet, but if Hardy just happens to be a little on the quiet side, that can make for a powerful and memorable main character.

If it turns out he's off-screen or marginalized half the time, or if Mad Max suddenly becomes the victim of "man in a cough syrup commercial" characterization, then that's certainly worthy of complaint. But male or female, that level of character assassination is worth some riots no matter what the reason it occurred. After all, "Other M" was just as insulting to male fans as it was to women!

[–]pitchinloafs 54 ポイント55 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The Independent wrote an article about an opinion of a movie that was formed from other opinions. The dude didn't even watch the movie! This is terrible journalism.

[–]Ferociousaurus 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (4子コメント)

The story is that an MRA is frothing at the mouth about how a movie about cars blowing each other up in the desert is feminist propaganda. You don't need to have seen the movie yet to conclude that that's hilarious, and it's not "horrible journalism."

[–]truetofiction [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

It's one dude on a blog. Generalize that to an "MRA led boycott" and yes, it is terrible journalism.

[–]Ferociousaurus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This particular "dude on a blog" is a well-known figurehead of the movement, and if you go to the linked article, there are thousands of comments agreeing with him.

[–]Igosuki [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No. MRAs know a feminist extremist has been paid for consulting on the film's feminine characters' aspects

[–]abs159 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No, the story is to knowingly invite scorn on MRAs knowing full well;

A) this idiot hasn't seen the movie. B) he is a mere blogger C) they'll have a fine time skewering him for his ridiculous opinion

This isn't about boycotting the film, it's about using a cheap opportunity to ridicule MRAs generally.

[–]koshgeo 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But Clarey (who hasn't actually seen the film yet)

And ... I stopped reading. Besides the fact his point is stupid, he's almost completely uninformed.

[–]thefran 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (6子コメント)

return of kings is not men's rights activists, it's a clickbait masculinist site that despises them for being "pro-homo" and "too beta"

[–]ThisIsASchtickUp 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I care about Men's Rights (just as much as I care about women's rights, btw) and I can say without an ounce of reservation the dude complaining about this is vacuous. What the actual fuck? I think Charlize is awesome and I'm even more excited about the movie now. Fuck this guy. Any person who thinks like this doesn't value equality.

[–]cantletthatstand [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Men's Rights folks are often like Republicans. Not all of their ideas are terrible, just the ones they like to plaster front and center on their publications...

[–]ThisIsASchtickUp [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

I'm not a Republican at all, I'm more of an...anarcho syndicalist or perhaps a democratic socialist.

[–]cantletthatstand [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

I... I didn't say you were Republican. I said the men's rights movement reminds me of Republicans, but for reasons that you and I most likely wouldn't agree.

[–]ThisIsASchtickUp [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yes, I know you didn't...I was just stating my political leanings.

What reasons does the movement remind you of Republicans? I don't agree with all MRA views the same way I don't agree with all feminist views.

Not all of their ideas are terrible, just the ones they like to plaster front and center on their publications...

Examples, I guess is what I mean?

[–]cantletthatstand [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Well, for example, I like what some Republicans say about the role of government. I think we have gone too far in trading our economic freedom and the room it affords us to innovate, for security and comfort. So, some of their more market-based rhetoric absolutely attracts me.

But when given the reigns of power, they don't act on that. They gotta git the gays, and UPHOLD FAMILY VALUES, and attack dem der jihadis.

Men's Rights is kind of like that. You talk to plenty of MRAs and they're not the villains they're made out to be. They're dads who want equitable outcomes in family court, they're young men who want the security and reproductive control that women enjoy, they want some recognition for what they do.

But then Paul Elam gets on his high horse and posts ridiculously despicable, anti-woman bullshit on one of the biggest, seemingly reasonable pro-men websites on the internet.

[–]idofbatosai 100 ポイント101 ポイント  (46子コメント)

A film with a major female character? Gotta be propaganda.

[–]SavageDisaster 53 ポイント54 ポイント  (30子コメント)

Yeah! Since when can women do stuff?

[–]ErOcK1986 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Since we let em awll vote!!!! Ahm tellin ya, we shooda kep em in the kichins!!!

[–]theerak [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bear fut an' preg'nunt liiike gawd untended!

[–]LackingTact19 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Charlize Theron can do stuff to me whenever she wants

[–]BigScarySmokeMonster [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

That whole Alien series is just terrible, and that whole Terminator series, look at women do things. GRR!

[–]jbondyoda [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm 100% not trying to be sexist: I think those movies work well because the female leads adapt to their situation. It's not like Kierra Knightly in the POTC movies where she's either a damsel, or she is bitching about why cant she be the pirate king.

[–]BronzeEnt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I mean, T1 & 2 were good, but the rest of the series is pretty terrible. Just not because of women doing things.

[–]Pwnzerfaust 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Well, if Mad Max is a secondary character in a movie called Mad Max, I can at least see where the complaints are coming from.

[–]idofbatosai 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (6子コメント)

From /u/GreenAdder

" Theron sure talked a lot during the trailers while I don’t think I’ve heard one line from Hardy." IMDB trivia for "Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior" (1982) Mel Gibson only had 16 lines of dialogue in the entire film, and two of them were: "I only came for the gasoline." Max being the "strong, silent type" isn't exactly a new concept.

[–]Pwnzerfaust 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Not having a lot of dialogue isn't necessarily the same as being a secondary character. What I mean is, if they make Theron's character more important to the plot, have more of a role in general (not just speaking roles) it does seem a little odd.

[–]idofbatosai 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That's true, but I still haven't heard anything from a person that saw the movie that says she's the main character. The only evidence that she is the main character I have heard is that she has more lines in the trailer, which GreenAdder's point entirely refutes.

[–]Pwnzerfaust 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

True, I haven't seen it. Was speaking hypothetically, hence the "if" in my prior comments.

[–]idofbatosai [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I gotcha. I agree with you.

[–]kurisu7885 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I figured the complainers never actually saw it.

[–]Nicolay77 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Tron

[–]Pwnzerfaust [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I agree, Tron should have played a larger role in the eponymous film.

[–]KingGorilla [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I think Zelda is a pretty cool guy.

[–]Rawtashk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I feel like you haven't actually seen the movie....

Also there's the part where they specifically hired the lead writer from The Vagina Monologues to write scenes/dialogue for them.

It's a lot more of a feminist movie than I was expecting.

[–]ls84 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

holy cow people just have to complain about everything. (from the person who now is complaining about those people)

[–]ewar-woowar 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Im english, moaning makes us happy. Dont know what it is about everyone else.

[–]dagwood111 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not that there's anything wrong with that!

[–]Spacedrake 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Coming from Return of Kings? Of course it's going to be ridiculous, that site is worse than even the most stupendously crazy feminist blogs. Honestly I don't even know why the Independent even gave it the time of day, or anyone else for that matter.

[–]funky_pete 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Red Pill. Return of Kings. Sounds to me like these dudes watch too many movies. I'm beginning to picture the entire community as a group of Cable Guys.

[–]darkstream81 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Why? Why is this an issue? Are we really that bored as a species now we have to make shit up to be outraged over? shut up already

[–]ilikeslamdunks 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Something tells me this guy gets "duped" frequently.

[–]TheMainTank 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is absolutely the distilled essence of /r/nottheonion

[–]TehXellorf 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Oh wow. Nice job making guys look bad, those guys getting mad just because a girl is playing a major role and such. Come on, is it really that bad?

[–]Humerous_anecdote [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

In other news men are complaining that women have to many lines and are dominating the porn industry. Men's rights activists have begun a new porn genre known as "men only porn" featuring only men which they promise will keep menism alive into the next century.

[–]generichum4n 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIL all social groups have extremists who's views don't represent the majority.

Crazy huh?

[–]ivorylineslead30 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I dare someone to post this to r/theredpill.

[–]artacuno53 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

They already came here it seems.

[–]ivorylineslead30 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It appears so.

[–]RadioHitandRun 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What ever...It's one day from release and still sitting at 99% on rottentomatoes...Do people even understand whats going on here?! this is a ACTION movie that meets and will surpass all expectations.

[–]methamp 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Charlize Theron can feminist all over me.

[–]beerspill [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

TL;DR: Charlize Theron with a shaved head and all dirty is still a hottie

[–]Oznog99 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

TIL Mad Max is a "chick flick"

[–]Nahbruh123 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope these guys know that the world is laughing at them and nobody takes them seriously.

[–]watda80 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Who gives a shit as long as it's a good movie. There are probably two men out there who are actually enraged.

If Charlize Theron is kicking a bunch of 250 lb guys' asses, then yeah, I'll be sitting there rolling my eyes. But as long as there is some realism behind the action, give me that action.

[–]out_of_my_liga 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'd be angry too, if my brain accidentally got engaged by an actual story, artistically rendered.

[–]gothamneedsmealways [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

There's a men's rights organization? Really? Oh wait never mind. I get it. We've ruled the world since like forever and now that some minorities have gotten a little bit of power to speak out and request fairness, all of a sudden we need to ensure our rights... Against those who are asking for more so that we can be more equal. Righto then.

[–]grrirrd [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yeah.

"Feminism isn't about equality! They say that they want to make the world a more equal place, but all they do is focus on the UNDERDOG! If it's only the disadvantaged groups who have anything to win, it's not about equality! Everyone has to be the focus of the work! If white, middle-class men aren't included and get the exact same benefits from the feminist movement, it's discrimination!"

[–]Qevla 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Jesus Christ, really?

[–]Morrinn3 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hahahaha, oh man, that's great. Fuck those guys.

[–]Rawtashk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

What a shit article. It's literally one guy with a blog. It has nothing at all to do with Men's Rights.

[–]pokebud 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

is Max even in the trailer?

[–]Whiskey_Love [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

[–]alhern112 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They are acting like a group of women! Wait..

[–]Scout_Is_Sandvich [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thing is Max is featured more than furiosa and he doesn't speak because he's the strong silent type (Mel Gibson had 16 lines in the road warrior) they havent seen the film lol

[–]opticon [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I'm not against the MRM in most respects but you gotta watch the movie before you can be offended by it and then I can not care what you find offensive. Until then, there's not even something to not care about. You're talking out your ass.

[–]The_Zak-Attak [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The title of this sounds like it would be from The Onion.

[–]Quarmac [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So by MRAs you mean like three guys on 4chan /tv/. Yeah, okay.

[–]jehuty1812 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I understand now how most females of the species feels when hearing about the "feminazi" stuff.

[–]Sockymans [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Honestly, as a man. I could give two shits about the race, sex, or ethnicity of a character as long as it is well written and makes sense to the storyline. Why do we not judge movies based on that? I don't want my movies to be forced into making 100% of people happy.

[–]MLKane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Return of Kings MRAs

RoK is a pick up artist, neomasculinist site, and despite some people's best attempts to conflate the two groups, MRAs and neomasculinists actually clash ideologically on quite a few points.

http://www.returnofkings.com/about

see points 5 and 6 are in direct contradiction to most MRA literature and points 2, 4 and 7 for super crazy, 1, 3 for just inanity

but hurr durr dem fokkin MRAs amirite?

[–]nirnin [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

This guy definitely has a micropenis to be offended so.

[–]butt_with_passion 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Duped?

Duped!?

Duped.

I don't want anyone that got duped by a movie to have access to power.

[–]pooperstooper 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Say that to "Safety Not Guaranteed". A lot of people like it, but MY GOD what a bait and switch! It's not what anybody wanted when first watching the YTMND.

[–]shinyhappypanda 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It wasn't nearly as funny as I thought it would be, but I still really liked it.

[–]pooperstooper [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Me and my brother must be the only sane ones then. Everybody else loves that movie, and we watched it thinking "WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT BORING SHIT!?

[–]egs1928 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Wow, a "men's rights activist" sounding like a whiny misogynistic dolt, how surprising.

[–]Anadrex 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Here in America...

[–]Rawtashk [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Even TIME Magazine agrees that it's a "very feminist film ", so I'll have to agree.

http://time.com/3850323/mad-max-fury-road-eve-ensler-feminist/

[–]fwahfwahfwah [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

So, I looked at comments on the gamespot website about how the article says some character who is a female mechanic looks too sexy and some customers have questioned this appearance for someone who is a mechanic. Don't worry, the game devs mansplained it all away, but that did not stop the Wounded Warriors from opining that if girls with their icky cooties don't like the game, they can go play Candy Crush Saga. So, since I am a commenter, I will say that if boys and their icky cooties don't like this reboot of Mad Max, they can go off and play Candy Crush Saga.

No one's holding a gun to their head and forcing them to watch this.

[–]PlebbySpaff -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

...I didn't even know there was a Men's Rights Activist group. That sounds like the stupidest fucking thing ever created. Why? History.

[–]ErikLiinar -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So much stupidity in the world...

So little time to laugh at it/bang my head against a wall.

In this case, I'm not sure under which category do Men's Rights Activists go...

[–]soylentcoleslaw [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

As someone who subscribes to the mensrights subreddit, this is the dumbest shit I have ever seen. This is not, in anyway, what I care about. Not the movie, the issue, I'm super excited about the movie.

[–]runnerrun2 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Finally some voices are being raised against all the feminist propaganda. It's ruining a lot of movies by only casting macho women who act like men anymore.

[–]xero_abrasax -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Those guys really aren't going to like the sequel, "Mad Maxine".

[–]CromFourWinds -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This makes me want to see this so much more.

[–]4321emanresu -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I fucking hate this country