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Wildstar is going to a Hybrid Free to Play model in August. What are your thoughts?NOT TRUSTWORTHY/CONFIRMED (self.WildStar)

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NOTE: I have submitted proof to the mod that I am not a troll.

Hello everyone! As has oft been discussed around here, Wildstar is going to be changing its business model in August(tentatively of course, patch stuff etc) to a Hybridized Free to Play model. Now thankfully it is not going Pay to Win, I suppose you could call it "Freemium" in a way as a lot of the stuff that the paid accounts will get is buffs to experience/rep/renown etc gain and character slots and the like, no direct power buffs or anything like that.

MTX (Microtransactions) will be included moving forward as well and you will hear more about that very soon. What are your thoughts on the model? I personally like it and am excited as I can't see how this wouldn't bring players back and new players in.

Feel free to ask me anything about the game, company, folly of man, etc.

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[–]Illyndrei 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (19子コメント)

OP is now shadowbanned... so... uh...

[–]LimitedEditionDP 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (15子コメント)

This might explain why.

http://imgur.com/HkAwmSI

[–]Greenecat 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Lol, Fran is really butthurt that he got kicked from his mod position it seems. Pretty pathetic way to go about it.

[–]zaery 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

To be fair, I saw EDM_God, EDM_God2, and EDM_God4 before Fran got kicked, so it probably just took the admins a while to take action.

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    [–]OliaBn 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

    What does it mean and how you know?

    [–]Illyndrei 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

    It means the admins banned him, you can tell because you get a 'page does not exist' error if you look at his profile.

    [–]OliaBn 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Thanks

    [–]I_always_drop_ammo 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (4子コメント)

    If this game goes f2p I am re installing

    [–]God_of_EDM[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Set phasers to "re-install"!

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      [–]ZedEffective 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (3子コメント)

      As long as the game stays the same as it is now with my subscription I'm happy, and the more players the better.

      [–]God_of_EDM[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      My sentiments exactly!

      [–]jarkarawr 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

      As someone that played the beta but didn't buy the game because of the sub (already pay for WoW didn't want to pay for another game), I will definitely start playing if this is true. I liked the game a lot, but not enough to justify either quitting WoW or paying for both. As long as the restrictions are on things like number of characters allowed and extra xp for subs and not restricting spells or gear, I definitely think this will be a good thing and attract new players.

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        [–]Fevir 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (12子コメント)

        How does this all tie in with the timing of the Steam connection discovery?

        Do you have knowledge of how this might effect content cycles and content creation?

        Glad to see you outran the ban hammer.. I tried to follow the questions asked yesterday but you got banned far too quickly to read your answers.

        [–]Reindheart 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

        Fevir pls make some more videos

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          [–]quicktails 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (13子コメント)

          What is the general mood in the studio right now?

          [–]God_of_EDM[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (12子コメント)

          It's not great. From top to bottom we have handfuls of people leaving every week, there was a stretch where we averaged at least 5 people leaving a week for 5 weeks. As you all probably know we've had 2 Art Directors leave within 8 months, a handful of Producers have left, we still have no Studio Head to replace Gaffney, hell even our Wildstar specific QA is down to about 7 people and a few of them are leaving in the next couple weeks as well. We've had 4 designers from different Feature Teams leave in the past 7 work days as well. There is no transparency and everyone is always fearful of what will even be here 2 months from now. The place is ran very poorly by people who have the biggest egos that fight over everything.

          [–]Bazeleelwww.youtube.com/Bazeleel 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          This was my worst fear! Such a shame!

          [–]augustgrace 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

          I was under the impression that Carbine still had a pretty decent sized staff. Are there a lot of people working on an unannounced game?

          [–]God_of_EDM[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (5子コメント)

          It's not small, no. The people leaving will be replaced, that was just to show that people are not happy here. There is no one in the office here, Orange County, that is working on anything other than Wildstar. Unless you count QA, which actually is not even a part of Carbine but NC Interactive now, we have some tester that are working on Blade and Soul, which is now in Friends and Family beta by the way, and a handful of Lineage and Aion testers to go along with the web and platform testers, however several of them are leaving in the next couple of weeks as well since QA is a terrible, terrible job here at Carbine/NCI nowadays.

          [–]JrAlvarez 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          Can't believe B&S finally got resurrected, its been so long thought

          [–]safetyseal 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          I'm so god damned hype for B&S. I'm so glad to hear news about it.

          [–]TotesMessenger 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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          [–]augustgrace 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Thank you for answering. Only thing here that I find surprising is having to wait until August for the change. I would have thought this would have been in the works for months, with June as the goal date.

          [–]jaytoddz 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          What exactly would you say is causing so much turnover? Management just doesn't care or people see Carbine as a sinking shit. Do the employees see WS as a failure?

          [–]Alesthes 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

          Question. I am curious how this:

          There is no transparency and everyone is always fearful of what will even be here 2 months from now. The place is ran very poorly by people who have the biggest egos that fight over everything.

          Is supposed to be compatible with this, you mentioned shortly after in another comment:

          Now when I say comfortable I mean that we aren't worrying about whether or not we'll have a job in 90 days time.

          [–]Rhua 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

          I think you read it wrong; the two comments go hand in hand:

          He's saying they are currently all fearful, with no idea if they will have jobs month on month. He's then saying in the other comment that they are hopefully working towards getting the game comfortable, to a point where they are not worrying about their jobs month on month.

          Anyway, if this guy really does work at Carbine, he doesn't any more.

          [–]centurion_celery 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

          Yeah, NCSoft HR probably found him and had him escorted out already

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            [–]SeeSawSin 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (33子コメント)

            For the love of freaking NEXUS, please tell us this, the truth please. If you are really an insider.

            What does the Carbine current staff think of PVP? Do they care about PVP at all?

            [–]God_of_EDM[S] 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (6子コメント)

            They think it's terribly unbalanced and it is most definitely not a priority at the moment. Important? Yes, prioritized accordingly? No.

            [–]krawnnic_backpainz<Galike Gangstars> 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

            What is the reasoning behind it being such a low priority? Does it have anything to do with the staff just not really having a passion for it? Or is it because management has prioritized development towards other things?

            If you consider the gaming market PVP consumes a large marjority of the genre whether it be mmo or moba. I just can't grasp the thought behind it receiving such a low priority.

            [–]DiabolicalpieFlo X - Lords of the Dead 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

            The existing playerbase speaks for itself, they're playing to their audience with the dev strength they have. If F2P brings in a load of people I can see them shifting focus to PVP again.

            [–]bepulse 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

            then lets go free 2 play baby!!

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              [–]Lawlta[M] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (22子コメント)

              Hijacking the top comment, as I've received some reports about this thread. I'm not removing it, because I'm letting the community decide if they think it is legitimate. If it is true, he's posted a lot of interesting info.

              I removed previous speculation, but understand that this is the kind of individual providing the information. Obviously could be completely bluffing, or telling the truth. This is previously why we did not allow leaks. Whatever he says cannot be verified, considering the "proof" provided is anything anyone could make. They don't mind acting like they are throwing someone under the bus just to stay relevant.

              If this information is true, it is whatever, but realize the source you are getting it from, and understand that nothing they say is guaranteed. Do not get your hopes up unless it's from an official source.

              [–]MadBlue 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (11子コメント)

              Wouldn't it have been better to delete the photo or message them than blurt out the salary?

              [–]MrNotSoNiceGuy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              "One could easily be able to cover their tracks and point the trail towards someone else" ;)

              [–]MacHaggis 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

              So you are going to not remove an obvious troll that just happens to give this reddit sub the world premiere on some REALLY major news if it were true?

              Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

              [–]Lawlta 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

              At this point I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.

              The thread was made while I was away from my computer, and it blew up. I'm not going to go through and delete a thread, especially with the recent discussion ban trouble that I had to fix.

              However, the user in question did go against what was asked of him, and decided that creating multiple accounts to force his information through (his "proof" was incredibly lacking). Because of this, I contacted the reddit admins, they investigated, and banned his IP from this sub.

              I've stated several times that if people want to believe this information, that is on them, and them alone. It may very well be true, but the source has not provided any credibility. However, if I close this thread, then the topic for discussion is gone, and people will be angry. If the community wants to discuss it, then more power to them. If it received a ton of reports, and was negatively downvoted, then I'd remove it, but people clearly want this here.

              At the very least I've flagged it as misleading, as there is nothing here that is guaranteed.

              [–]MacHaggis [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

              Fair enough. My apologies for calling BS.

              [–]Lawlta [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

              There's a ton of information out there, and it's hard to filter through a lot of it (especially with recent happenings). If anything, maybe use this as a learning experience. No harm, no foul.

              [–]kainsshadow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

              So basically the day after mods decide to ban any f2p/b2p talk you allow a thread that talks specifically about said banned topic despite the fact that the "evidence" they provided may or may not be true... This thread changes nothing. We STILL can't be sure without an "official" statement in which this is most definitely not.

              [–]Lawlta 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

              So basically the day after mods decide to ban any f2p/b2p

              The day after A mod decided to ban those discussions. That mod has since been removed for that and several other reasons. I've never promoted banning positive or negative constructive discussions. This has been discussed in the meta post stickied at the top of the subreddit.

              despite the fact that the "evidence" they provided may or may not be true

              I've stated several times that this could be fake, and how it could be fake. However, being the only mod, this topic took off while I went to have dinner. I feel there would be more negatives removing this discussion, than keeping it.

              At this point, it's up to the community on what they want to believe, and how they want to speculate. Carbine isn't getting the community's hopes up (because they aren't posting this), so if they want to believe this leak, any expectation that is not met is not on the game or devs, but on those buying into this setting up potentially false expectations.

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                  [–]terbonurd 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  Reposting from first time.

                  Hello! As I said it won't be P2W so the MTX will be cosmetic items, costumes, mounts, pets, etc. The promotion with the cat mounts and the costume will be what you get more of and was put in place due to what people thought, to clear out inventory for the change to the Hybrid model. As of now there is no plans for an expansion however we'll still be having the (knock on wood) quarterly updates with new raids, zones, features, etc. I assume you are referring to race/class/faction changes when you said customization? As if now there are no plans for that, sadly, as I would go Exile in a minute! Revenge of the Redmoon I assume you are referring to Redmoon Terror? That is still a ways off as several of the designers who were working on that are no longer with us, the Dungeon/Raid team is 4 people right now. Feel free to ask anything else and I will do my best to answer!

                  [–]onions5000 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                  If you truly are an employee, I have to question why you're releasing this information before its official or ready to go public.

                  Disgruntled or do you just flat out hate Carbine?

                  [–]Slightlyfluffy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Some people just like attention?

                  [–]Just_A_Guy_Eh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                  Honestly, it's probably because they love Wildstar. Imagine, working and playing constantly with a product you love and believe in, and you see the incredible potential in the forecast of the game, but corporate won't allow any of the information to be released. You see the players are scared and angry and confused, and get no response. You'd be compelled to reassure them of what's to come.

                  Sorry, I'm kinda high, but you feel me?

                  [–]pheye 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (7子コメント)

                  Seems like a pretty big risk to take for a little self satisfaction. Not much to gain - lots to lose? I'm suspicious.

                  [–]MrNotSoNiceGuy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  I just waked and baked and im feeling the shit out of you :D

                  [–]ManyFacedFool 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                  I still think this is horseshit. I don't believe this would be posted on reddit before the official site. Not saying F2P would be a bad thing, just that I think this post is crap.

                  [–]TophatKiyaki 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  Well, this is allegedly a leak. Leaks tend to, you know, post things that management would not want released at the time. Naturally a leak would come before an official announcement...because if it didn't, it would not be a leak. Remember when The Order 1886 playthrough was leaked? By your logic, that leak would not be legitimate since the game was not out yet.

                  [–]ManyFacedFool 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  And some leaks are fake. I'll believe it when it's officially announced, and that's all there is to it.

                  [–]TophatKiyaki 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  That's entirely your right, and it is true that leaks can be fake, but they aren't, more often than not, especially in the history of MMOs. The claims line up with the facts we already know, and that is enough for me personally to take this as truth, if not just confirmation of an inevitability that has been a long time coming.

                  [–]ManyFacedFool 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Hey, more power to you. I'll just believe it when I see an official announcement.

                  [–]aideya 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Why so late on the change? My boyfriend and I though that maybe this change would be very soon, especially considering a lot of people have thought that Carbine has been LONG overdue in saving the sinking ship for a while (we love the game but the low pop makes it hard to enjoy).

                  [–]briexeu 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Well for there to be a change people have to take part in it. Is the population low compared to wow? Yes. Is the game unplayable due to population? No. Both pve servers are doing well.

                  PvP is active, there is dungeons for all roles and there is a plethora of guilds on various stages of raiding and a lot of guilds for socializing.

                  [–]JrAlvarez 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I am fine with that, I enjoy Gw2 Model, and hope for something similar, hopefully they gain more subs and make more awesome costumes, fix the repeated art in the game, i love the game~

                  PS: Give me hoverboots! Jupiter Ascending style

                  [–]God_of_EDM[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                  I am fine with the GW2 B2P model myself however with the population the way it is now I would rather have no barriers at all for new players. I really hope we get a lot of subs and I actually believe we will.

                  Hoverboots is something that has been pitched actually! Space Combat as well, but that is a long way off even in pitch world hehe.

                  [–]JrAlvarez 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  haha its ok, As long as the game gets more popular is fine! It deserves it! Hope there is nothing but good things to come

                  [–]PauloValar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Would be good to pay like $10-15(it's really cheap) and have a non-p2w store.

                  [–]throwaway940919 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                  any point to buying it now? gonna be any "Founder" style rewards when it goes F2P?

                  [–]God_of_EDM[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (10子コメント)

                  Honestly, it is a fun game and it is in MUCH better shape now from even a couple months ago. I would definitely play it now. Plans aren't final as of yet(obviously) but they are going to do something for people who have been paying to play. I have a fear that the end product won't be that great though. Ideas thrown around are just cosmetic stuff like mounts, costumes, toys, and pets.

                  [–]kuldirongaze 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Well, to be fair, what else could they offer?

                  [–]JunahCg 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Housing items or plots, race/faction/name change, maybe titles.

                  [–]throwaway940919 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  I live in Canada, and it still costs 39.99 here. I'd probably pick up a copy if it was 19.99 like in the US.

                  [–]God_of_EDM[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Are you able to buy it online anywhere? Hell, I know a lot of here had people in other locations buy it for them when it was $9.99 at some places since no one was able to find it that price here in Orange County.

                  [–]MrNotSoNiceGuy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                  I have been paying my subscription with CREDD for months just to support carbine lol, and no i dont mean buying CREDD ingame, i mean buying CREDD from carbine and just straight up using it as gametime for my self :D

                  [–]at_all_cost 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                  Would seem you are a nice guy......

                  [–]nipoco [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                  He is not so nice tough

                  [–]Typhron 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                  Psst, hey.

                  Have you considered races that are already in the game? I mean like the Ekos (touching up on their overall animations and clothing rigs)? Something like that as a feature given/released every so often would be astounding.

                  And what have you got to lose for doing it? I mean, aside from the time and resources. But you know...never underestimate the power of underestimation and all that.

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                    [–]MadBlue 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    FYI, someone posted a link to this reddit thread in the official forums and the post was deleted.

                    [–]jarrettwold 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    So when's the actual F2P release? Is that a separate date from the Steam release?

                    [–]TotesMessenger 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

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                    [–]Kritter5x 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    "What are your thoughts on the model?"

                    Depends on the model. There are a lot of examples of bad free to play options out there, limiting ridiculous things like quest rewards or profession abilities, making you pay to hide your headgear (cough SWTOR) etc. I can handle reduced character slots and bag space, but I have to draw the line somewhere.

                    Will there be multiple tiers? As in

                    Tier 1. Free to Play, Tier 2. Bought the game but playing free, Tier 3. Still a subscriber

                    Or just free VS subscribed? Personally I'm much more of a fan of the GW2 or ESO models, far less limiting and still has room for a cash shop for cosmetic items etc

                    [–]d0e1ow 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Hi EDM.

                    Are you a trance fan? PLUR!

                    Anyways, I'm reading your posts about the climate at Carbine and we've been hearing stuff like this about the company since a few months after launch. Do you feel like the climate is harming the game? What do you see changing about the climate?

                    It's hard for me to get behind the game when I don't believe in the company. Hearing all of this internal strife which hasn't seemed to pass makes me second guess. Wildstar is a great game and I think it has improved quite a bit, but what are you guys doing in your own company and team to clean things up and get the ship back on course for development and worker morale? How can you lock down on a strong vision for the game when the environment is one of uncertainty and transience of workers?

                    We have no Wildstar without a strong Carbine.

                    [–]Typhron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Fake or not, eh...Good luck out there I suppose.

                    It's not fun watching a fire go up in the distance. 8v

                    [–]BigDamn_Heroes 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

                    If true.. a lot is going to depend on the model used.. if the conversion is done as poorly as BioWare did SWTOR... it won't garner any more fans/revenue. I, for one, will be out if the conversion is anywhere near that poorly done.

                    [–]Zoralink 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                    if the conversion is done as poorly as BioWare did SWTOR... it won't garner any more fans/revenue.

                    What? While I utterly despise SWTOR's F2P model, to say it hasn't gotten them more fans/revenue is just flat out wrong. The game was more profitable than it ever was after going F2P.

                    [–]MadBlue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                    It's not that SWTOR didn't gain any more fans/revenue after it went F2P, it's that the model SWTOR is using isn't applicable to a new IP like WildStar.

                    [–]boredbritgamer 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    You're making out like WildStar isn't essentially the same game.

                    If you look at the swtor store, every single item on there could be applied to WildStar as all the content here is instanced.

                    • Weekly limits on: warplots, battlegrounds arenas, raids.
                    • Consumables: exp boosts for normal zones, path exp etc. not to mention increase chance of rare loot drops etc
                    • Costumes: already a huge part of WS, just do more
                    • Housing: Same for this

                    Just from those alone you can see them doing exactly the same as swtor. WildStar is 2 years younger true but it's essentially built the same way

                    [–]MadBlue 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    We're not talking about what can be sold in the store. We're talking about the way F2P was implemented with SWTOR. Essentially giving subscribers the standard game and removing key features for F2P players. SWTOR could get away with it because it's Star Wars, and it went F2P at a time before games like Rift set a higher bar for F2P standards. Nobody is going to play a F2P MMO based on an unknown IP if you have to pay to unlock ability bars or hide your helmet.

                    [–]dinwitt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    The SWTOR Cartel Market is their system for players to legitimately convert real money to in game credits, and this ability to sell anything from the Cartel Market on the Global Trade Network is what makes things tolerable. Since Wildstar already has CREDD filling that role, and I don't see them scrapping all the infrastructure that was built for CREDD, a cash shop for Wildstar would look fundamentally different.

                    [–]boredbritgamer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Why? The game is the same if you're a sub on SWTOR. So if you like to sub on WS it will most likely be the same.

                    F2P gurantees one thing: number of players. I've always said F2P/sub is like a massive trial which makes sense for an MMO as there's often a lot to do and you never get a feel for a game with a 7,10,14-day trial.

                    With the added bonus of CREDD in the game as an incentive, this game could get a lot of players coming in and playing the content, not to mention trying to save up to buy CREDD if they play a lot.

                    [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                    We looked at what BioWare did as a lot of us played SWTOR heavily, even have a guild still somewhere I think. If there is one thing our terrible leadership did right it was choosing a model that wasn't P2W or content blocking.

                    [–]SC_SpaceTrucker 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                    Just don't have restriction on UI bars, hide head slot,unify colors and reduced XP etc like those idiots at bioware have.One of the reasons SWTOR dont have way more people is that reason alone,people hate beeing gauged and exploited.Even people who paid for the game and paid a sub have these shitty restrictions so be smart,we all know how braindead corporate managment is just saying :) one of the reasons i left Wildstar apart from the kill quest grind,grafs was the boomboxes that only gave out garbage.

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                      [–]blue_78 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I really do like this kind of model. I hope if this was the case, it would save the game. Let's face it, something like this has to happen or it's curtains. But yeah, lots of MMOs seem to adopt it, solid model.

                      [–]Niietz 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      Aww, only in august? I was hyped to try it again when it went F2P but I have no idea what I'll be playing 3 months from now.

                      [–]The-Grand-Nagus 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                      So, here is my little story: I pre-ordered the game, played in beta, and never renewed my sub after the 1st free month. Why? Because there are a lot of games I enjoy that I can play for FREE. However, now that WS is going F2P, I will check back in and probably play off and on. And while I'm playing off and on, I will probably also buy a thing or two from the game store. And that is why F2P works; you wind up getting money from me(and plenty of other people) that you never would have gotten as long as there was a sub. So kudos to NCSoft for making the decision to change the model, and good luck to the devs on the transition.

                      [–]kuldirongaze 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                      So like ESO? Will subscription give you a stipend? Will you give loyalty bonus currency like in ESO model? Please not like SWTOR; every UI element is constantly asking you to pay and it really takes you out of game immersion. Also, limiting players from group instanced content is not helpful. Will the game store be run by Protostar or Lopp? Please be Lopp, also the Chinese would prefer them :)

                      [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

                      Yes, paid players will get perks like xp/renown/prestige/character slot/etc bonuses but no annoying ass UI popups. There will be an MTX store as well, but definitely no locking of content that's for sure. Protostar is the plan as of right now with the currency being called Nexus Shards, but Lopps are a great idea that has been pitched to be more involved with the game as a whole as well. The Chinese launch of the game will have different art to make up for the all the bones/body parts/etc Strain-y stuff that's in the game as of now.

                      [–]kuldirongaze 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                      I vote for Lopp. Also if you can, at some point in the future, post the Chinese art that'd be cool. I'm interested in what Strain will look like.

                      [–]nipoco [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                      In game currency for that could be "shinnies" and Lopp with love it

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                          [–]madhabmatics 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Do you feel confident in the team's ability to reach out to player's who were turned off by the game's original marketing as a part of the Freemium conversion?

                          [–]God_of_EDM[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          That depends on who does the reaching out. Our community team is great, if they actually talk to the players like they usually do, like humans, then I think the message will be well received. If marketing or PR does it, I am not as confident.

                          [–]madhabmatics 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Thanks for the answer! I noticed that a lot of the people designing the content are able to frame things as exciting for a variety of audiences, but that the actual marketing tends to, uh, undercut them. Hope the transition goes well for y'all!

                          I guess a followup question: Everyone has an opinion on why people don't play the game now. Does the team have any favorite theories, and if so, do they tend to agree, or are there "camps" that have different ideas about what would need to change (besides f2p / b2p / p2p) to really attract a critical mass of players?

                          [–]Calculusbitch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                          What will become of our CREDD?

                          Will there be any new 5 man dungeons coming anytime soon?

                          [–]TeamAquaAdminMattXathonn X<Beyond The Event Horizon> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                          I'd guess CREDD would work the same, He's saying it's F2P with optional sub for extra benefits like increased currencys

                          [–]Calculusbitch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          Will you still be able to sell CREDD? The real question I guess is if it is worth holding on to it or sell

                          [–]Just_A_Guy_Eh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I imagine so, stimulates the economy

                          [–]JunahCg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          It seems unthinkable that you won't be able to sell it anymore, but it's up to you to decide if it's worth holding onto. You can keep it either for the future benefits or to try to make a profit after the conversion.

                          [–]augustgrace 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          The link to this on the main forums got axed within a couple minutes of going up.

                          [–]ingenious28 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (20子コメント)

                          If you could compare the model you'll be rolling out for wildstar to a pre-existing model (or combination), what woud it (those) be?

                          [–]God_of_EDM[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (19子コメント)

                          Wildstar is actually the first MMO I have actually played for real. I know we were adamant to have it NOT like SWTOR at all. People who are more familiar with the genre are comparing it to TERA.

                          [–]Greektoast 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          What's the word on guild housing? :) Any other fun features down the line?!

                          [–]God_of_EDM[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Neighborhoods! Basically a bunch of plots linked together.

                          [–]garzek 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          This has been rumored since drop 2 :( I think the first date I heard for it was drop 4?

                          [–]Riposte_This 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Sounds good to me

                          [–]TeamAquaAdminMattXathonn X<Beyond The Event Horizon> 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          You say paid accounts will get more character slots, How many will unpaid get?

                          [–]laserloui 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          are there any plans for an expansion? new class plans? whats with dreadmoor, murkmire? whats with housing neighborhoods, guild housing?

                          [–]HAHA_WELL_OKAY__THEN 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Can you recount the weeks following release? When did everyone start jumping ship(Frost, the itemization guy, etc) and why, specifically? Because it was bombing so hard?

                          [–]SeeSawSin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Yes. Please. We need more details when shit start hitting the fan and understand why a game that had so potential went so sour

                          [–]Harlock_Redmoon<Venus Rising> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Thank you so much for sharing this with us, although I am sad to head about the Redmoon Terror raid being so far off, I was so excited for that. Anyway I have a few questions:

                          Are there plans for flying mounts in Wildstar or anything similar? How will that be?

                          Is there going to be a drop focusing on the Marauders or is that basically going to be in the Redmoon Terror drop?

                          [–]Susarian 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                          Thanks for the info and I'll be checking the game out when it hits steam!

                          [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          I'd honestly give it a go now! There's a trial and really, the game is a lot of fun. It had a lot of hiccups but a lot of those are no longer an issue.

                          [–]Viney1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          Hey God_of_EDM.. Sorry to bother you, but I wanted to know what you thought about my ideas for the F2P transition. Now that it's confirmed to be coming, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the ideas, and maybe help influence you guys on the decision. :)

                          http://www.reddit.com/r/WildStar/comments/35v66d/how_would_you_like_to_see_a_f2p_wildstar_monetized/cr8h71k

                          PS: In the mean time, I will likely re-sub until F2P launch and maybe after as well. hehe

                          [–]getHelpPshyco 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                          We would rather this game die then go free to play - Wildstar Devs

                          http://8.media.bustedtees.cvcdn.com/d/-/bustedtees.574aa52d-f1dc-40ed-a51f-0d8980a0.gif

                          [–]Harlock_Redmoon<Venus Rising> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                          That was solely the words of Frost.

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                            [–]Coltongower 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (12子コメント)

                            Hey /u/God_of_EDM two things! Firstly, aren't you worried you'll get caught?! Thanks so much for doing this. Secondly, why so late? I figured since the game is in the state it is, you'd want it out ASAP(june-ish)?

                            [–]God_of_EDM[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (11子コメント)

                            I guess I am a bit. I don't expect to be around the area much longer anyway and I can just go back home if things get bad. I took extra precautions to make sure they can't get back to me. They may get something, but it won't be me.

                            I couldn't tell you exactly why August aside from that's when our next drop is scheduled. I guess they want something "big" for each drop.

                            [–]RogueA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                            Do you think the bad quarterly report might push up the release of F2P to boost this Quarter's numbers before NC Korea decides to 86 the whole thing?

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                              [–]RogueA 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Okay, I know this isn't actually about the F2P transition, but... the rotate plug button in housing, when will it actually work? My windmill is facing the wrong damn way!

                              [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Ha! That is something that I know at least 3 other devs wrote up along with however many times QA wrote it up. Our fixing turn around is not the best.

                              [–]Snowboardaholic 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I will continue to stay subbed and hope a lot of the current happily subbed members will to, seeing how much carbine has tried.

                              I'm also anxious to see an increase and population and popularity in the game as long as it doesn't become p2w.

                              [–]ChronicGamerTwitch 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Thanks for this impromptu AMA with some great info and very positive outlook for the game most of us love. Already seeing a huge resurgence of players even with current sub model due to Drop 5 improvements. I just hope that something great can be done for the players who stuck out the rough times <3 Thanks and cya next time cupcakes :D

                              [–]kerokaze 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              Can you define "hybridized free to play model" for me? Is it Buy to play? as in buy the game and no sub? or what

                              [–]God_of_EDM[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              It will be free to play with the option to pay a sub for more perks. Not Pay 2 Win though.

                              [–]kerokaze 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              so what you're paying for isn't going to push it to pay to win? Are the advantages to paying just convenience items? I really wish they went with gw2 style :T

                              [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              As of now, that is correct. It will not be Pay 2 Win, but mostly cosmetic stuff.

                              [–]Viney1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Mind replying to my post, please, /u/God_of_EDM?

                              [–]MordechaiandRigbone -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Just wanted to say thank you for the transparency and honesty. Really appreciate it, and it's allowing me to make a more informed decision.

                              [–]demonmanuixti bainkoff 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              /u/God_of_EDM few questions here, after having worked in carbine how can you describe the following people and their approach to wildstar, TT, gaffney, Frost, Hyldogen, meerkat, Tranagram? the problems that actually wildstar have are more a result of decitions taken by Ncsoft, Old Carbine management, New Carbine management or Carbine development team? dont you feel like waiting till end of year or start of next year for redmoon terror is quite long, almost 1,5 years for a raid?you said people were leaving and thats sad, but how do you see the panoram, its new people being hired to occupy those vacants or its like the company is jinxed and no people want to get into that? we saw Q1 results of ncsoft and those were low, that should hurt the morale of the team but after drop 5 the experience has gotten real better, any chance that risen up a little the morale of the team? hows the perception of the wildstar employes about the outcome of drop 5 and how to create hype for drop 6?

                              thanks for taking your time to answer

                              [–]BarthezzczThe Utopia 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              do u know if there will be a linux support on steam ? [omg that would be awesome!!!!]

                              [–]FeathersRuff 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Wait...so I just auto payed for my subscription.

                              [–]Riposte_This 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I hope that Carbine takes a look at Everquest 2's payment model. It's by far the best Free 2 Play model out, bar none.

                              [–]fracta1 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Are there any plans to actually optimize the game for everyone at some point?

                              [–]REZENNN 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Time to make some space on my hdd

                              [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Welcome back!

                              [–]Sainguin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              I'll return with F2P.

                              [–]Bladeprincess 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Wait who is realcarbineemplyee and who is edm_god?? haha this is crazy trolling!

                              [–]srovero 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Can you please share with us something about B&S launch?

                              [–]Juniterio 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              Will it be like runescape-ish member system?

                              [–]veydar_ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              How often did you get banned on r/WildStar?

                              [–]ryagas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              If I'm reading it right, and it is similar to SWTOR, I'm (staying) in.

                              [–]daitaCV 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I still don't understand that new player have faster mount that people that bought game 3 times the price before beta even started. So I am really afraid when talking about the game not going p2w. Winning a mmo is not always havimg the best stuff.

                              Reading /r/mmorpg seems to show that people don't want to play mmos for the rng and the time spent. They want a free game where they can occasionally spend real money so they can show off in the capitals.

                              If cashshop appears, I'll quit.

                              [–]haisenHaisenberg@Modified 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              Might be a good thing if the conversion will come asap because WoW encountered a massive ban wave (yesterday) and players switching to W* and other games ... and this might attract even more ppl.

                              [–]guymn999Guy <Breadnought> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                              curious. over what?

                              [–]TophatKiyaki [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

                              Botting or otherwise 3rd party applications. A member of the guild I was in when I used to play WoW got a 6 day ban for using tmorph. AKA, we probably don't want people coming into Wildstar who just left WoW, because they were largely cheaters sans people using tmorph.

                              [–]haisenHaisenberg@Modified [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              Interesting, that you have the mighty ability to speak for everybody and know people who cheated/used a bot in WoW will do so in W* as well... you must win the lottery on daily basis, do you?

                              [–]Agnester 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Will the real carbine employee please stand up? I repeat, will the real carbine employee please stand up? We're gonna have a problem here..

                              [–]garzek 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I'm also really excited. Do you know anything about what the MTX are going to look like? A while ago I posted my own ideas for what I thought the ideal hybrid model looked like (subscribers get XP/EP/renown/glory/etc. all faster and then a monthly stipend as well as loot boxes I tentatively named Kaboom boxes, which subscribers can open for free (these would mostly contain cash shop cosmetics and otherwise work like boomboxes); cash shop is primarily cosmetics with boosts available for the same things subscribers get, CREDD continues to be sold, and keys for the boxes would be sold in the cash shop as well).

                              What's sort of the expected surge in August then? Is Carbine prepped for the heightened server demands? Pop will likely triple is my guess.

                              [–]menos_el_oso_ese 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I wonder if people who actually bought the game (like myself) will get anything special for when this happens. Like a month of "Paid" status or whatever it may be. I spent nearly $60 on the game and cancelled after the 2nd month (when I maxed my first character).

                              I think we should get something for already giving them money if everyone else can play for free now.

                              I'll definitely play again when this happens. I only quit due to lack of players, really.

                              [–]yatta27 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              How long has the studio been working on the transition towards this business model? I imagine there being a lot of server, UI, and platform work needed to make this kind of switch. Probably even systems work to explore monetization ideas with existing game systems.

                              [–]xlym [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              is it going to pay to win ?

                              [–]kyoushunsui [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              Based off of the comments I'm going to take this with a grain of salt. Although it isn't farfetched that they do switch to Free to play in the future (maybe next year?)

                              [–]orbitxo [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

                              if it is= good for them! and good for us!= more players

                              why the doom and gloom?- geeesh! we arent getting anymore or any less than we would with a b2p game atm- so big deal.

                              until you run a business= then you can make decisions, in the meantime- enjoy the game or move on.

                              some people here really need to take business classes.

                              [–]khaosfactionNoximilien 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

                              well if this is true. im out then.

                              [–]Morvar 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I'll come with you..

                              [–]Vicarious_InkSomething Owchy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

                              Not to be THAT guy, but could you post your proof of this? I have yet to see it.

                              Thanks.

                              [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

                              Hello there! I completely understand being "that guy" and have no problems. However this is still internal as of now with no official word. However I did send proof that I am not a troll to the mod. There isn't anything "physical" I can post without outing myself, like screenshots or internal conversations like people were asking for. I can assure you the proof I sent to the mod should be sufficient.

                              Feel free to ask me anything you would like!

                              [–]JunahCg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

                              If I take you at face value that you're on the inside at Carbine, how do you feel about the move? A lot of people have a lot of mixed opinions about free to play.

                              [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                              People have less mixed opinions about keeping their jobs hehe. I somewhat joke, but at this point we all see a change was needed and this model is the best we can do for the long term. I personally am perfectly ok with it, anything that gets more people in the game is welcome. I truly believe we have a great game but we got buried under TERRIBLE leadership, egotistic decision makers, and poor communication. I think we can bounce back to at least a somewhat respectable level though, that much I am very confident about.

                              [–]JunahCg 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              Haha, I hear you there, jobs are everyone's first priority and f2p appears the most workable business model lately. Also I think many of those watching from the outside had the sense that leadership was... divided at best. But you folks make a damn good game. Your efforts are definitely appreciated, and for everyone's sake I hope this f2p thing works out nicely.

                              [–]Kaizermos 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              What you just described is why I haven't bought Wildstar yet. I will almost definitely play when it's not box+sub. As far as I'm concerned that moronic business move has done nothing but hurt the game.

                              [–]garzek 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                              I HAVE BLAMED YOUR LEADERSHIP SINCE DAY ONE! Back when the game first started nose diving I said "This screams of bad producers/egotistic leadership" and people on this subreddit in particular tried to point fingers at development.

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                                [–]Razhork 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                It sounds pretty legit to me. This model sounds better than a standard F2P model and I truly hope it won't devolve into a Pay2Win shop.

                                On a unrelated note; Just curious if Redmoon Terror is currently being worked on. Your best take on a ETA of the raid?

                                [–]God_of_EDM[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                Hi! I agree, it's better than your run of the mill F2P model, and higher ups are VERY adamant at not doing anything that even touches pay to win so you are safe there.

                                Redmoon Terror is still alive....barely. That took a big hit as our Dungeon and Raid team is only 4 people at the moment. It definitely is still going to happen, unless something catastrophic happens. ETA I would say is at the very, very best...last quarterly drop of the year, my guess though would be first of next year.

                                [–]Razhork 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                Alright, thanks for the heads up! Really appreciate the transparency you're bringing us.

                                [–]LoKoh<Codex> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                rip

                                [–]guymn999Guy <Breadnought> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

                                too bad, such a good game that was destroyed from the inside out.

                                [–]midgetsnowman 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

                                By its own fans and their utterly terrible advice in beta and drowning out o criticism, no less.

                                [–]BARON1357 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                true words have never been spoken

                                [–]guymn999Guy <Breadnought> 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

                                i would argue terrible buggy content, poor management and no QA

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