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WildStar coming to Steam! (self.WildStar)

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https://steamdb.info/sub/68224/

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[–]anothererror 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (19子コメント)

https://steamdb.info/app/371920/subs/

68222 is dev copy
68223 is consumer/purchase for a key. Possibly means b2p or requires recurring subscription. They either may not have included it with this update on Steam for testing, or it could be still through NCSoft on their site and kept off Steam. If I remember correctly, ESO allowed purchases through Steam BUT you needed to manage your subscription through the ESO Store.
68224 seems to be trial.

Edit: 68224 was unlinked from the app. (Still can be found here: https://steamdb.info/sub/68224/history/) (Thanks /u/MadBlue for the update!)

[–]Hammster_0x309HammsterZ Clockwork 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

i just hope it is as you say :S

Edit: oh btw 68222 & 68223 could be Standard and Delux edition

[–]anothererror 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

68222 is flagged yes for DevComp, which means it's intended for developers and publishers only.

I believe deluxe/standard editions would be tied to NCSoft's account management, not tied to Steam. You'd have game access through the Steam Client, but anything regarding the game itself (subscription, promotional items (deluxe edition, box copy items, showstopper codes, etc), and so on) would be through NCSoft's side of things.

[–]xorpenFlint Fredstone <The Utopia> 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (8子コメント)

So it doesnt really say anything? Or does it lean towards not being f2p? Help me out, im stupid.

[–]anothererror 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It leans away from F2P due to there being consumer licenses (68223 is a single purchase license).

It could possibly be B2P and no subscription, though the most likely case is you can purchase it through Steam, and it requires setup through NCSoft or inputting the code Steam gives you to make a Wildstar account, and then adding a subscription on NCSoft.

[–]Artie-Choke 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Sounds like they're going yet another route to try and gain more subscribers.

I don't see F2P or B2P out of any of this.

[–]anothererror 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That's how I feel about it too. Being on Steam means essentially more visibility for the product, doesn't mean it's payment structure is changing. That's why I mentioned it may be similar to ESO and require an active subscription not managed through Steam.

[–]reohh -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Can you not read?

It clearly says "Single Purchase" under licensetype for Wildstar, yet something that actually has a subscription like Cryengine says "Reccuring Charge" under licensetype.

[–]AltBridge 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The eve online starter pack is also a Single Purchase, but that game requires a sub.

[–]Hammster_0x309HammsterZ Clockwork 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well b2p or p2p. There are 3 packages and that wouldnt make sense on f2p. But only time will tell and we can only wait for something offical.

[–]qaz0r 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One is clearly a dev build.

[–]briexeu -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Right now it's up to interpretation, but it seems that it says single purchase.

[–]MadBlue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Hmm. 68224 says "Cross region trading and gifting is disabled for this item" but 68223 doesn't.

Why would a trial be region locked, but an actual game key not? Could it be that the game itself is going F2P and the CD key is for CREDD or some kind of premium package?

[–]anothererror 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It's likely completely disabled for gifting and trading. Text is probably based on what flags are enabled on the subid. I could be wrong though.

[–]MadBlue 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh, now there's only one entry. It's no longer part of the package.

[–]anothererror 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for the update on that, edited the post!

[–]iPavel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

It could be a copy for players who already bought the game. At least I hope for that.

[–]MadBlue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, at this point, now there's only one listing, which is for the "Free on Demand" version.

[–]LaiLaiHei 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just really really want this game to succeed :(

[–]lootedcorpse 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm just coming back, and I brought some friends :D

[–]Faxxmachine 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same

[–]RogueA 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Well that's a good thing. Means NC aren't giving up just yet!

[–]Bloodrager 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (7子コメント)

It only means it's not being shut down imminently. I don't think 90% of the playerbase dropping the game within a year is cause for celebration just yet. Though I hope it's going to be a step in the right direction.

[–]RogueA 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Oh, you're not wrong, but it means visibility and an increased population. Steam saved APB:Reloaded (even when it wasn't deserved) and made Warframe a success.

[–]Typhron 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

In Warframe's case, yes. In APB's case, no. APB was "APB" before it became "APB:Reloaded" under another a different studio. The one that made it, the swedish Scottish "Realtime Worlds" was killed by it.

One need also look at the sadly defunct City of Heroes for sudden steam exposure not working for all mmos. Still...

[–]RogueA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm not talking about the transition between RTW and G1.

Before APB: Reloaded was on Steam, it was only available through the gamersfirst client thing. The population was dwindling (I was playing then) and then it was released on Steam. It was #1 on Steam's Free to Play listings for the longest time.

[–]Typhron 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ah, sorry.

[–]Just_A_Guy_Eh 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Poor Realtime Worlds, I loved Crackdown

[–]thefoam 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The one that made it, the swedish "Realtime Worlds" was killed by it.

Realtime Worlds was actually based in Scotland, but you're otherwise correct.

[–]Typhron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Changed~

[–]kartana 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Keep an eye on

https://steamdb.info/app/371920/

Which is the actual game ID. Probably base game free and they have at least two paid versions. So probably Trial and Standard, Deluxe. No F2P? That would be a face palm....

Pretty sure the maintenance has something to do with it though.

[–]MadBlue 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I would imagine that they wouldn't label the Trial "WildStar" and have the game itself left unnamed.

More likely, the game will be F2P and purchasing the Standard game gives benefits (like more character slots or bags) and the Deluxe gives the benefits of Standard plus the other items (costume, hoverboard, dyes). Or one of the codes is for CREDD.

Edit: one is labeled as a developer copy, so there's really only 2 entries that need to be explained.

Edit2: now it's just the Free on Demand one.

[–]kainsshadow -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Having the game be f2p over b2p makes no sense however. The game could make a complete reversal come back without going all the way to f2p. At this point its all speculation but I find it highly doubtful they would go with f2p over b2p :/

[–]MadBlue 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I'd prefer B2P over F2P myself, but having Steam label "WildStar" (not "WildStar Trial") as "Free on Demand" suggests to me they might be going F2P rather than B2P.

[–]kainsshadow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Its still complete speculation at this point. This "source" of info is far from conclusive no matter what we compare it to. Better to just wait for the official statement.

[–]rabidwargamer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"Better to just wait for the official statement."

Said no one on the internet ever.

[–]kainsshadow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean we have discussed this "development" as much as it can be discussed at this point. Not much more to talk about until an official statement is what I mean.

[–][deleted] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

This is actually shocking to me. Never in a million years would I expect NCSoft to share publishing profits with ANYONE. Huh.

[–]RogueA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

They've sunk so much money into Wildstar, they probably sunk a lot of their pride too.

[–]Baconwich 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Makes me think they might still want it to succeed, rather than just being a soulless company that doesn't care.

[–]MrFrames 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm hoping it goes B2P, I stayed away from this game due to the subscription.

[–]Charmeleomander 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I've played this game as b2p from launch. The credd system works

[–]Jakovo 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is a big deal :D

[–]qaz0r 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Putting it out on steam with the subscription model change is a really smart move. Hoping for the best.

[–]MordechaiandRigbone 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm considering buying it with these new changes.

[–]RegretfulPath 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (26子コメント)

I kinda find billingtype Free on Demand (12) interesting, does that mean F2P?

[–]Riposte_This 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

License type is single purchase, so could be going Buy 2 Play

[–]barcy707 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That most likely only means that they have to buy it from steam once and only one payment goes through them.

[–]Pluwo4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Most games let transactions be possible through Steam to make it easier for uses to spend, this does not take away the fact that B2P/F2P is probably gonna happen.

[–]Downvote_Test_AcctI despise the ignorant masses 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just means steam isn't handling the sub.

[–]kartana 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Same as RIFT

https://steamdb.info/sub/62217/apps/

[–]Typhron 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Other games use different product codes. The Secret World and Guild Wars use the "Store" ID classification, with both being b2p. "Free on Demand" is reserved for f2p games and trailers.

To this end, f2p is an inevitability it seems. Unless there are other apps filed under the same name, with this being a secondary (possibly for those that already own the game).

[–]Just_A_Guy_Eh 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And Tera https://steamdb.info/sub/50921/

[–]caonimas 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Free on demand are exclusively either trials or f2p games. The way the game's package is named just Wildstar and not Wildstar Trial or Wildstar Demo makes it obvious that the game is going f2p.

B2P games show up as "Store" if they are fully integrated into steam or "Store or CD Key" if they aren't.

So everyone that doesn't think this is going f2p should just abandon all hope already.

[–]TeamAquaAdminMattXathonn X<Beyond The Event Horizon> 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

https://steamdb.info/app/371920/subs/

[–]dinwitt 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

At work now, what happens when you install that package?

[–]TeamAquaAdminMattXathonn X<Beyond The Event Horizon> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You can't

[–]caonimas 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"Single Purchase" license through CDkeys like just about every f2p game that sells packages. If it was an actual sub it would set as "recurring" and if it was a credd key it wouldn't even have a license.

[–]ipokemonkeysMiss Stabbie - Do Not Panic - Entity 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

But - what about the part where it says: licensetype - Single Purchase (1)

Wouldn't that mean that hint that it's something you buy? Or is that a transitory phrase used for "clicking to obtain?"

[–]RogueA 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly that, click to obtain. RIFT is listed exactly the same as Wildstar.

[–]FlyCapSlag 'Em, Tag 'Em, and Bag 'Em 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Stop the hype pls. People are still recovering from the drop 5 hype.

[–]RegretfulPath 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

All aboard the hype train! choo choo

[–]Praxis459 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hypethrusters GO!

[–]Harlock_Redmoon<Venus Rising> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Yeah, what does this mean exactly?

[–]RegretfulPath 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Just checked FFXIV.

Full says "billingtype Store or CD Key (10)" Trial says "billingtype Free on Demand (12)"

So I dunno, could be a trial and system needs updating

[–]walletfullofbananas 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Warframe has same billingtype: "Free on demand" (https://steamdb.info/sub/21350/). So yes, it probably means F2P.

[–]Alhiniath -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It might also be that they are meaning the Creed, because that is pretty much free on demand.

[–]walletfullofbananas 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How can something that you have to spend money on be "Free on demand"?

Also, you can compare Creed to PLEX (https://steamdb.info/sub/26155/). As you can see, it's not free on demand.

[–]finalejtwitch.tv/fynale 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

ohhh maybe it's the free trial, check ff14's db

[–]TeamAquaAdminMattXathonn X<Beyond The Event Horizon> 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Could also just be a placeholder due to it not being listed on steam yet

[–]Bloodrager 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is EVE on there? PLEX would be comparable to CREDD for the purpose of categorisation wouldn't it?

[–]superiormind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So far that's what it points to buuut nothing is final until the steam page is out.

[–]I_RIP_too_much 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (15子コメント)

As someone who was just about to purchase the game, does this mean I should wait in case it goes F2P with the release on steam?

[–]Harlock_Redmoon<Venus Rising> 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I would still purchase it even if, to support Carbine. They really need that money.

[–]I_RIP_too_much 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Surely one purchase won't make a big difference though. I just don't want to feel like I am wasting money if it goes f2p a few days after I buy it.

[–]midgetsnowman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

TBH, if they announce f2p, then simply burn some cash in the cash shop once it launches and it's just as good as buying a copy.

[–]I_RIP_too_much -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I am just concerned about buying the game and having it be a waste of money since it will have been pointless to spend anything if it does indeed go f2p

[–]Stako 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would Not Consider 12€ for a Standard Edition key and on top of that an ingame item thats worth 30-100plat a "waste of money"

[–]MadBlue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Often games that go F2P have 3 tiers: F2P player, subscriber and an in-between status for people who have bought the game. This often gives more character slots, bag slots, currency cap unlock, etc.

[–]Ianpact 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No, one purchase won't make a difference. However, the lack of purchases from lots of people unwilling to take a chance as you are will.

[–]kartana 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I would.

[–]serow081reddit 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wait for news. Your wallet is more important than Carbine's, unfortunately.

[–]Tuscatsi 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not according to CapitalOne

[–]BaronSolace -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

no, its listed as b2p on the entry page

[–]Lazarro15[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is probably the special thing mentioned.

[–]Harlock_Redmoon<Venus Rising> 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly my thoughts!

This is great news.

[–]Just_A_Guy_Eh 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (7子コメント)

And it's pretty goddamned special. Nobody thought a NCS game would appear on Steam, it's incredible news.

[–]CENAWINSLOL 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (6子コメント)

They haven't done it for GW2 (probably because it sells well enough without giving Valve a cut) but it's not unprecedented. I remember Aion used to be on steam (not sure if it's there anymore) and all of GW1 is there.

[–]Tattis 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

NCSoft used to have most of their games on Steam. From what I recall, they removed most of them around the same time EA did when Valve implemented a rule that DLC had to be sold through Steam (which meant less of a cut for NCSoft). The fact that NCSoft is now backing off on this with Wildstar makes me hopeful that it's a sign that they still have some faith in Wildstar finding an audience.

[–]Typhron 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

GW2's gemstore giving all of it's profit to the devs and ncsoft is actually the reason, this being the reason why most other f2p games aren't on Steam unless their parent company has brokered a deal with Valve (as Perfect World and Nexon have). Keeping in mind this means sales made through steam (it's all very very complicated and weird).

[–]CENAWINSLOL 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That does sound complicated, but it makes sense. Does that cover transactions made in game only? Like, would steam still get a cut of someone buying Wildstar funbux (or whatever it'll be called if they go with a premium currency) through NCSoft's website?

[–]Typhron 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

No. But if, say, anyone buys said currency on steam and applies it through NCsoft's website, then Valve gets a cut. Unless there's a deal in place that Valve will get a cut for every player who buy's something who is also playing through Steam (which in turn could lead to paying for things through the Steam wallet).

Again, it's complicated. Hell, it was probably in the cards to have Guild Wars 2 be on Steam at some point, but it's profits far exceeded expectations as it continues to grow.

[–][deleted] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Since Valve takes a cut of incoming sales I'm still astonished NC allowed them to do this.

[–]fooey 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

70% of some sales is better than 100% of no sales

[–]Just_A_Guy_Eh 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

AYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY INCOMING POPULATION

[–]Tovrin 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

A good thing.

[–]Tempest_the_Tank 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We can only hope.

[–]MadBlue 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmm, the entries for Lineage 2 and Aion also had similar changes made at the same time as WildStar's.

[–]Towelliee 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (10子コメント)

If f2p is a surprise to anyone I'd be shocked. Game couldn't have continued under its current circumstances and I hope all current players understand this

[–]yellow_kiwi 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I followed this game before fist beta. I'm a sub and understand the situation. If they go free to play I will be one of the first to buy something on the cash shop.

[–]chuccimane 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they offer that fat kitty mount I am buying it lol; but who knows what this whole thing means. Some people are saying it's just the trial, which could be the case. Gotta wait for official word.

[–]midgetsnowman 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Most do. a few are so stuck on sub or die that theyre screaming murder

[–]Typhron 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You know the funny thing about that attitude? The sub model, by it's very design, was on it's way out. Even in the 80's.

Look up the history of the MMO and the sub model from those times. Back when the cost to get online wasn't so easy you were looking at paying 12 USD an HOUR. Lump sum monthly costs were $120 came the next decade, and of course the $15 a month the one after that.

And what happened to those insane costs? Technology marches on, as does the ability host/have these huge games worlds for a lot less. The fact that Wildstar had such costs in place showed how ancient this design truly was.

[–]midgetsnowman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

the big problem is you can still do non-optional subs. But you need a damned compelling product to pull it off. so far the only big names in that boat sem to be wow and ff14. Carbine's got a game with good potential. But it is not wow or ff14

[–]RogueA 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Don't forget the flying Space Excel Simulator.

[–]drspod 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

http://i.imgur.com/IwK5sDa.jpg

[–]kuldirongaze -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, you're still following this game? I thought you went back to WoW. What's your favourite feature of WildStar?

[–]xorpenFlint Fredstone <The Utopia> -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Is that your expert opinion?

[–]Mikedot 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Please be B2P... Please be B2P... Please be B2P...

[–]TeamAquaAdminMattXathonn X<Beyond The Event Horizon> -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

B2P or P2P. Just not F2P. No box price with sub could be ok

[–]MadBlue 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

"No box price with sub" is OK for people who already sub. It's not going to get more people into the game.

[–]Tovrin 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Why not? At least I'll have friends willing to try it out. They don't want to drop cash on a game with such a terrible reputation (outside the fan community).

[–]TeamAquaAdminMattXathonn X<Beyond The Event Horizon> -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Then they get the 10 day free trial

[–]trenescese 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And stop playing after it :P

[–]chuccimane 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is interesting, free on demand. I am hoping it goes B2P lol.

[–]finalejtwitch.tv/fynale -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

nope all signs are pointing that refering to the 10 day trial.

[–]midgetsnowman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

which means even steam will help a hell of a lot less than a lot of people think,

[–]Pluwo4 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Really? Most signs point to F2P.

[–]MadBlue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What signs?

[–]kuldirongaze 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Would we have to download the game again? What about the Steam achievements, will we get them retroactively?

[–]_Gnarli 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

All you'd need is the steam appmanifest for Wildstar, which I'm sure will be pretty easy to find, then move the Wildstar files to whichever folder your steam library is set to.

This is assuming nothing drastically changes with the files.

Edit: Even if the files change you can just verify the cache, causing a much smaller download.

[–]ApShacoOp 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My sub just ran out today, not sure if I should re-up or see what happens

[–]ARX7 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Can you change he link to reflect the game rather than package. It has been linked here previously and contains two bought packages. I would surmise that this one is for a trial

[–]Coltongower 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

BASED GOD BLESS US ALL.

[–]Coltongower 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So, with this happening in the past, any idea when?

[–]I_always_drop_ammo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If this game goes f2p me and my friends will all come back to it. Good stuff

[–]iprizefighter 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Same here. Gonna play the bejeebus out of Wildstar with all my buds who don't want to may multiple monthly subs.

[–]iPavel 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I hope all players who already bought WildStar would be able to get a Steam key (just a copy without cd-key).

[–]sumphatguy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hurray! Maybe steam overlay will work now!

[–]kiive 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this is great news :3

[–]DragonDivision 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This is pretty interesting. I'm curious though, as I like having my games in STEAM. If they game went B2P I'd have to repurchase the game to play it via steam, correct? I'm more than happy to do this anyway (I've done this with ARR) as I get to enjoy the STEAM integration and it also helps CARBINE out a little more. If it goes F2P, I guess that's a win all around as I could just enter my account details via the login and game via STEAM :D.

[–]orbitxo 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

hehe you really digged deep. for this

[–]HexaHDTul Duru 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they were to make CREDD a tradeable item withing Steam aswell it would boost the playerbase for sure. From the negative side, I guarantee you that any average player will then no longer be capable of farming enough platinum for CREDD.

Many Steam users are more than willing to spend 10 hours on farming just for 1€ or a few cents (And I am not thinking about AFKing here), thus you could expect CREDD prices in platinum to skyrocket.

[–]d0e1ow 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Hey, this is super cool. It's too bad that we can't "add" the game onto our Steam accounts if we've already bought it. :/ Had the same thing happen with FFXIV.

Boo! This will lead to a lot of people trying the game out though.

[–]tde156 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There have been a couple games that you could add to Steam after-the-fact. Like Spiral Knights.

[–]midgetsnowman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You cna still add it unofficially, and most games if you do that you cna still link up the ingame shops to steam dollars by doing it that way,

[–]derdotte 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

there are ways to add games to your steam library its going to be done with elite:dangerous aswell if you bought it before it came on steam. just needs a ton of background work.

[–]Pluwo4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If it goes F2P you could download it and login with your normal info.

[–]kartana 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wouldn't surprise me if it goes F2P effective immediately on Steam. That would make some headlines.

[–]BARON1357 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

the influx of the waiting horde of f2p players would probably crash the servers

[–]Zoltrixx 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is good news as it means people like myself might pick it up again but I'm worried, I have been following this game for months and months since I stopped playing and as far as I can tell they have added 1 dungeon, nothing else. What are people even doing playing the game right now? I wanted it to succeed so bad but there is nothing.

[–]SwineFluShmu 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They've added a dungeon, a shiphand, veteran versions of shiphands, new zones, a new raid, and a myriad other features.

[–]BigDamn_Heroes -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Not everything that gets a listing there.. actually ends up on steam

https://steamdb.info/sub/26169/

So, it being listed doesn't actually mean anything. My understanding is that if a publisher just approaches valve to discuss, a package gets created..

[–]Pluwo4 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It does mean something, even if NCSoft is only willing to talk, but let's be honest, most games that are in steamdb come to Steam, Wildstar most likely will too.

[–]bauhau8 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's happening. F2P is imminent.

[–]BradwanThe Lost Medic -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

There is so much speculation going on in this thread its board line sickening. Please for the love of Drusera CRB say something

[–]celphtitle -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this isn't free to play yet?

[–]Emekfl -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Was really hoping the announcement would be f2p =\

[–]kerokaze 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I wouldn't hope for F2p. I'd hope for b2p. Same model as gw2 would be great. I'd love that. Keeps the rift raft out and the community grows like a mofo. Everything we want.

[–]midgetsnowman 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

also means those of us who left can come back without committing 15 bucks just to see if we wanna play again

I'm sure I aint the only one who thinks "I'd play again..but only if I dont have to pay a subscription for it and can just buy shit I want from a cash shop"

[–]Mikedot 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yeah, I was hoping for B2P, as well, but I'm 100% sure it's going to F2P, now that I learn that Wildstar is listed on Steam with the same billing setups as Warframe, Spiral Knights and many other F2P games there.

Sigh. Oh well.

[–]TeamAquaAdminMattXathonn X<Beyond The Event Horizon> 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (4子コメント)

https://steamdb.info/app/371920/subs/

It's listed as CD key twice here

Free On Demand(Trial) CD Key x2(Normal and Deluxe Editions)

[–]Zoralink 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Could easily be 3 different levels:

Free game, bought but no sub, subbed. Or trial, purchased, and subbed.

[–]Mikedot 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Or it could just be purchasable "care packages" like some F2P games have, like being able to by some in-game MTX credits and a special outfit for $14.99

[–]MadBlue 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Or:

Free on Demand (WildStar F2P)

One CD Key is for developers only. we don't know what the other is. Could be CREDD.

[–]God_of_EDM -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Oh, The 3 models people are seeing are the trial, free, and paid versions.

We are trying to get Wildstar to be THE MMO for Steamboxes, IE, shipped with it already installed. Valve was at our offices in Orange County in January.

Hey all, this post might help with some of the questions since Wildstar is moving to a Hybridized Free to Play model in August. Hello! As I said it won't be P2W so the MTX will be cosmetic items, costumes, mounts, pets, etc. The promotion with the cat mounts and the costume will be what you get more of and was put in place due to what people thought, to clear out inventory for the change to the Hybrid model. As of now there is no plans for an expansion however we'll still be having the (knock on wood) quarterly updates with new raids, zones, features, etc. I assume you are referring to race/class/faction changes when you said customization? As if now there are no plans for that, sadly, as I would go Exile in a minute! Revenge of the Redmoon I assume you are referring to Redmoon Terror? That is still a ways off as several of the designers who were working on that are no longer with us, the Dungeon/Raid team is 4 people right now. Feel free to ask anything else and I will do my best to answer!" Paid players will get benefits but moving forward they will only get the benefits of their sub, which leads into question 2... Yes, players who pay for their sub will get perks like xp/renown/prestige/character slots, etc boosts. It will be a "Freemium" game, definitely not Pay to Win, which had to be fought for. If I understand the question correctly, yes. CREDD will still be present. It will be for the subbed players, if that makes sense. Basically no change there. Like GW. MTX will be there, there will be a new shop currency as well, Nexus Shards is what they're called as of now. Feel free to ask me anything else.

[–]qaz0r 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What is this?