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Something special for PM2 lovers (bladehq.com)

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[–]pfhorrestHalo V Junkie -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Gross. I would pay less for that than for a stock PM2.

Seriously - why green micarta and acid wash?

Put some full length mokume or timascus scales on it, and give it a zero edge hollow regrind, and then maybe we'll talk.

[–]ColonelBunkyMustard(not a real colonel) 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously - why green micarta and acid wash?

Some people like it. Notice it is currently sold out.

Put some full length mokume or timascus scales

You wanna pay $600 for a PM2? Because that's how you're going to pay $600 for a PM2.

[–]beltfedvendetta -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Holy shit, someone is really butthurt about shittalk over this overpriced abomination. Here, take an up-vote.

[–]Alfonso_X_of_Castile[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (24子コメント)

I promise it wasn't me who downvoted you or anyone else (I don't usually upvote or downvote), but see my other comment on why it's not really overpriced.

[–]beltfedvendetta -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I disagree that it's worth it.

Distressed micarta is still just micarta scales.

Stone/acid washing isn't exactly rocket science. Joben from Lazy Lizard Gear has been doing fucking phenominal stone and acid jobs on Ganzos/Sanrenmus and whatnot and what he's charging is no where near what this guy is charging. Frankly, I think his is even better in some cases since he'll do custom patterns.

Rounded spine is also not necessarily a selling point, especially if you wanted to use firestarters with this. Not to mention it's something I could easily do with belts/sandpaper in a few hours.

Bronzed hardware is interesting, but again, nothing to justify that price.

Granted, a professional Wicked Edge job is something to behold, but... there's plenty of guys here on this sub and over on BladeForums that will do it for less than $30 all day erryday.

Sorry, I just don't see it being worth that much unless this was something that someone specifically ordered. If I had choice of materials and it got into actual custom pimping services... yes, I would pay that much. But for just a modded knife on BHQ that is twice the cost with the warranty voided? Not really. The reason why pimpers can charge what they want is because you're getting a custom service. Take the custom out of that and even if you're a fucking wizard... well... that knife only appeals to so many people.

[–]Alfonso_X_of_Castile[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Have you ever purchased micarta scales? They ain't cheap. Here's an example of micarta scales for the PM2 that go for $85: http://www.bladehq.com/item--Spyderco-Paramilitary-2-Custom--19188. As for the other stuff, it seems like you're looking at each thing individually and comparing it to the cost of everything combined (the $165), which doesn't make any sense. Let's do a conservative hypothetical breakdown of the costs:

  • distressed micarta scales - $90

  • acid stonewashed blade - $10

  • rounded blade spine - $10

  • bronzed hardware - $10

  • acid stonewashed clip -$10

  • Wicked Edge reprofile - $20

That's already $150, leaving $15 for the pockets of Blade HQ or whomever.

As for it not being a "custom service," I don't really get how that affects the cost. If you don't like it, fine, but I'd say it's pretty clearly not overpriced.

[–]beltfedvendetta 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Have you ever purchased micarta scales? They ain't cheap.

You're using end market retail price of micarta scales for the manufacturing cost estimates of this thing. Now, I'm no big city lawyer, but... that don't sound right.

[–]ColonelBunkyMustard(not a real colonel) -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (19子コメント)

You know how much time it takes to make scales? It isn't trivial. Most knife customizers barely make enough money to be able to justify it as a hobby.

[–]beltfedvendetta -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (18子コメント)

It depends on the scales and the material. Micarta isn't exactly revolutionary...

When I can order C-TEK scales for just a little bit more money... you're not really convincing me.

[–]ColonelBunkyMustard(not a real colonel) -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (16子コメント)

It depends on the scales and the material. Micarta isn't exactly revolutionary...

That's exactly my point, At least in this case, the material isn't the factor that justifies the cost, it is the labor cost and skill that determines the value of turning a block of micarta into a set of functional scales.

When I can order C-TEK scales for just a little bit more money... you're not really convincing me.

I'm not trying to convince you do do anything, I'm not a marketing agent for Blade HQ or the maker of the scales, I'm am telling you that the cost of the customizations of the knife have value based on the time and effort it takes to execute them, and that there is a reason why the retail market price of micarta scales is $85 or more, contrary to what you implied in this comment:

You're using end market retail price of micarta scales for the manufacturing cost estimates of this thing. Now, I'm no big city lawyer, but... that don't sound right.

[–]beltfedvendetta -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (15子コメント)

That's exactly my point, At least in this case, the material isn't the factor that justifies the cost

That's really fucking funny, because if you were to get customized services for this, you'd be paying for the materials and labor. And I'm saying if C-TEK and things like carbon fiber aren't much more expensive than this, it's overpriced.

it is the labor cost and skill that determines the value of turning a block of micarta into a set of functional scales.

Yes, a "block" of micarta. As I said before, micarta isn't revolutionary. It isn't even one of the sexy high cost materials that is in high demand for pimping/customs. There's nothing really impressive about distressed micarta. Sorry.

and that there is a reason why the retail market price of micarta scales is $85 or more, contrary to what you implied in this comment:

There's a reason why those scales, on BHQ, are selling for $85. I don't know exactly how many times I have to state that that is still overpriced because it's RETAIL and most knife owners don't buy customing/pimping retail because it defeats the purpose... I could get even better materials or ones with patterns for just slightly more. This isn't a good value from my perspective. This is now the third time. Hopefully the last.