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Moderators need to understand that strong-arming the community because a post isn't strictly 110% related to LoL gameplay isn't going to build the community in a positive way or make it more receptive to what mods do. Removing something like the "Ekko from the deep thread" because it's "a joke thread" demonstrates that mod aren't actually acting in favour of the community, and removing the thread discussing and criticizing the decision demonstrates that they aren't willing to listen to reason. These actions are a classic example of why moderators aren't respected here.
It's time that moderators here start acting like members of the community, instead of being here for the sake of having some power to throw around.
To take from /u/Logron's post:
Edit: In case a mod reads this, maybe consider what reddit admins say are good values to uphold: https://www.reddit.com/about/values/
2 . Give people voices
Create a safe space to encourage participation.
Embrace diversity of viewpoints.
Allow freedom of expression.
Be stewards, not dictators. The community owns itself.
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[–]DeadNames 835 points836 points837 points  (64 children)
Yet, for some reason, terrible threads like "Saint your smites will be missed xd" are on the front page. Bless this subreddit.
[–]uberlordpi [score hidden]  (16 children)
How about that 2 second Huni gif. I know he's liked by the community but by their standards, is it really League related? Two seconds of him nodding his head with nothing inherently League related except for people that happen to play league of legends in it.
[–]ifancytacos [score hidden]  (1 child)
That isn't directly league related, but I still enjoyed it. I'm glad they didn't remove that one, and I think as a whole they need to lighten up with the removal of threads. I mean if someone posts a shit post that no one on reddit is going to enjoy but loosely pertains to league, it isn't going to get as much traction as something loosely related to league but actually funny or cool.
We're capable of deciding whether or not we like something, I think they just need to take the "directly related to LoL" a little more seriously.
And don't even get me started on how there was little coverage of the Incarnati0n announcement because the mods don't like Ricardo Luiz.
[–]dflame45 [score hidden]  (0 children)
Attractive women are always allowed.
[–]Wobbyble [score hidden]  (1 child)
I mean people upvoted it. Even if you and I don't like it, clearly enough people enjoyed it for it to reach front page, so I don't think it's an issue.
[–]uberlordpi [score hidden]  (0 children)
If this was true then why have rules. I agree with you, that the community chooses what should be seen, its inherent to the Reddit system, but when you have an inconsistent governing body that picks and chooses the content they see fit to hit the front page it's an issue.
[–]Logron [score hidden]  (0 children)
This thread seemed to set the precedent for them to be allowed.
Edit: I'm not making any judgement on whether or not these kind of posts are good (since I just click on "hide" and forget it if it's one I don't like), but there was a thread about mods some time ago where this topic was discussed, and iirc, one of the mods said it was allowed because it features a LoL pro player in an important/funny moment. I'm not sure on the exact wording though, maybe I can find it again.
[–]MTwistTits or Ass [score hidden]  (2 children)
They remove one "funny joke" thread people throw a tantrum
Imagine if they removed them all
[–]Protopulse [score hidden]  (1 child)
The point is that they should be consistent. The second they use a double standard, then they're selectively filtering what we see and censoring other content.
[–]MTwistTits or Ass [score hidden]  (0 children)
would you rather deal with one tiny shitstorm every now and then or a full on shitstorm and thousands of people telling you to go kill yourself and worse?
[–]correiajoao[Sir Jóni] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
[–]hisrantsk [score hidden]  (0 children)
Inb4 used Ekko's power to go back in time and bring back deleted posts.
[–]PewPewUDeaded [score hidden]  (0 children)
Said this on another thread removed for the same reason this post is discussing, but I hate it when there are ALWAYS just those videos with 75-150 upvotes sitting on the first and second page with minimal comedic value, interest, or really much of a point at all. "Katarina triple kill!", "Cool Vayne outplay!", etc.
[–]aunt_marge [score hidden]  (2 children)
if that isn't related enough then this sub needs some new fucking rules that gif was great
[–]uberlordpi [score hidden]  (1 child)
But gnarsies wtfast video wasn't league related according to the mods? With league footage, streamers, and programs associated with league involved. Ok.
[–]aunt_marge [score hidden]  (0 children)
I think that's dumb too
[–]Nutella_Bananerd [score hidden]  (4 children)
What if the wolf spirit looked like a wolf? Check
I just want to say MSI is the best event of the year we're 4.5 months into? Check
Expository journalism? Novel community jokes? BLASPHEMY
This subreddit continues on its path towards only being an echo chamber of "dank meme spacing" under only the most PC and pandering content.
[–]brashdecisions [score hidden]  (2 children)
I notice you have no problems with all the trash talk threads though
[–]CamoKeef [score hidden]  (0 children)
Trashtalk thread doesn't even count its like tradition here honestly i think the mods should do stickies for those
[–]RunsorHits [score hidden]  (0 children)
IS THIS THE TRASH TALK THREAD XDDDDDDDDDD
[–]Curatenshi [score hidden]  (24 children)
The smites thread is an actual youtube video that somebody made. The deeps thread was clearly a "joke" which is specifically said to be against the subreddit rules.
[–]Logron [score hidden]  (14 children)
Got removed because of it being a "personal message". Yet, they allow stuff like "AMA request - C9 Hai" to be on the front page.
They even deleted the post "AMA request - Fnatic Febiven" because it didn't contain any questions that might be asked. And when I asked them why they didn't delete the "AMA request - C9 Hai" post on the same notion (because that one was on the front page for 10 hours before OP decided to edit 3 questions in, which wasn't even on the request of the mods), I never got a response.
Edit: In case a mod reads this, maybe consider what reddit admins say are good values to uphold: https://www.reddit.com/about/values/
2. Give people voices
  • Create a safe space to encourage participation.
  • Embrace diversity of viewpoints.
  • Allow freedom of expression.
  • Be stewards, not dictators. The community owns itself.
[–]Obsolence [score hidden]  (3 children)
Got removed like 10 min ago because "posting about removing posts is not allowed".
Pathetic
[–]Logron [score hidden]  (1 child)
Funny that they don't even answer modmail most of the time.
[–]noitaniccav [score hidden]  (0 children)
They direct you to mod mail where they can have a 1v6 "conversation" with you (that is if they even decide to respond which they fail to do most times) instead of having it out in the open with the community because they know they're in the wrong.
[–]Limakoko [score hidden]  (0 children)
Yeah because a thread complaining about another thread being deleted because it broke sub reddit rules is just such useful content. No, it's not. It broke the rules, it got deleted, what more else could be said about it that would require another thread full of people whining and sitting on the mods doing their job.
[–]pikaluva13[pikaluva13] (NA) [score hidden]  (0 children)
I think with their new rules, the AMA request threads were under discussion on whether or not they'd be allowed.
I could be wrong though.
[–]Curatenshi [score hidden]  (7 children)
The comment wasn't about those two, I don't know of that situation so I won't comment on something I haven't looked into. What I said about the things ACTUALLY under discussion is undeniable though. Strawman arguments are pretty silly.
[–]Logron [score hidden]  (6 children)
I wasn't creating a straw man. I was just giving an example to you of mods acting out of caprice, since you didn't think OP's example was enough.
[–]Curatenshi [score hidden]  (5 children)
Except that's not what my comment was about. I was explaining why his comment was simply wrong. I wasn't defending the mods as a whole. Which is why your argument was a straw man argument. Go read my original comment again and you'll see what I mean.
[–]Logron [score hidden]  (4 children)
Fine, then excuse me for responding to your comment, I still wasn't creating a straw man though since I wasn't even arguing with you, just giving an example.
[–]Curatenshi [score hidden]  (3 children)
That's a good point. Although my counter argument would be why respond to my comment then. But it's all good discussion.
[–]Logron [score hidden]  (2 children)
I misinterpreted your comment since it seemed, to me personally, that you didn't think the mods take arbitrary actions. You didn't say that, it was just my interpretation, sorry.
[–]Curatenshi [score hidden]  (1 child)
It's really no big deal. I'm sorry for calling you out in that way. I meant it to be playful but it came across pretty harsh.
[–]mattiejj [score hidden]  (0 children)
I'm actually not mad if they delete something because it isn't by the rules (even if these rules are stupid)... If they just were consistent for once.
[–]Draki1903 [score hidden]  (7 children)
I'm currently talking to the mods about this. The issue seems to be that it is a "Low-effort post" in their eyes.
This is kinds bs because effort =/= value and maybe I can get through to show them how.
[–]Curatenshi [score hidden]  (3 children)
The difference is clear. One was a link to a video that had been made previously to a specific time stamp so you could hear a quote. The other was literally a video someone made for Saint leaving the pro scene which just happened.
[–]Crozzzy [score hidden]  (2 children)
So why do personal sob stories still hit the front page?
[–]Curatenshi [score hidden]  (1 child)
Example? Context? Do they get taken down? Are the PERSONAL (As in are they actually posted by the person or someone directly involved)? Do they have context outside of the sob story? All of these things are relevant.
[–]armiechedon [score hidden]  (0 children)
Every now and then frontpage gets a "wow this guy in my soloQ game changed my perpsectie" or "okay this eeko quote about time slipping away will make me quit league and start focusing on school!"
Besides, how is a League of Legends champion quote, that is related to an upcoming League of Legends champion, not directly related to League of Legends.
How is (http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/35papv/euw_clearly_having_issues_yet_no_loss_prevented/) not considered a low effort post? Or the post from yesterday where someone posted some singer named Ekko has an album called Time with a song called Riot? How is that more effort or related to than the Nautilus video? Or how are TWO post proposing skins for the upcoming champion considered "high effort"?
Both of those are directly related to league, and none of them deserves to be deleated...meh :(
[–]Logron [score hidden]  (2 children)
Because "I think Ekko should get a 'Back to the Future' skin" without any text body at all are such high-effort posts. /s
[–]Draki1903 [score hidden]  (1 child)
You are not reading me right.
Effort put in does not inherently mean value.
[–]Logron [score hidden]  (0 children)
No, I was just giving an example of mods enforcing the "low-effort" rule however they like, since there was clearly more effort put into the deeps thread than the skin suggestion thread.
[–]ASK-ME-IF-IM-DONUT 10 points11 points12 points  (4 children)
Yeah, fuck da mods!
[–]Foxxxhound117 0 points1 point2 points  (2 children)
are you donut?
[–]HeWhoPunchesFish [score hidden]  (1 child)
Banned.
[–]Coocooawesome [score hidden]  (0 children)
That comment wasn't lol related. Banned. To make sure I am not banneroni, Nautilus is support pick.
[–]LoLNumptie [score hidden]  (1 child)
Can we have a revolution?
[–]TheSeldomShaken [score hidden]  (0 children)
It's called starting your own subreddit.
[–]mattiejj [score hidden]  (0 children)
Also, the "sob-stories" are constantly on the front-page and never get deleted. If you report them, or ask about the rules, you'll get ignored by the mod team..
[–]exforest[exforest] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
And the esex articles! Those are hilarious, yet they kinda fall into the "joke" category the same way, don't they?
[–]bczar222 [score hidden]  (0 children)
or even the numerous threads bashing NA...disgusting. Perhaps maybe we should make a new subreddit..idk
[–]Thorns_Embrace [score hidden]  (0 children)
I liked that Saintvicious video but i do agree with your overall point.
[–]JackTFarmer [score hidden]  (0 children)
How dare you! Did you even watch the video ? You seem to clearly having missed the point of it... just like Saint misses
the live cheers of his fans now that he retired.
[–]Raaaaaaaaaaaaat [score hidden]  (0 children)
NO WHITH HUNTING!
[–]TheSoupKitchen [score hidden]  (0 children)
When 90% of the threads are shitposts I find it hard to believe the mods will remove 90% of the threads.
I don't know why people are being butthurt about them removing shitty posts. If anything, there should be more removals in my opinion.
Also, just because a Riot employee participated in the thread doesn't make it NOT a shitty post. OP...
[–]brntsierra619 [score hidden]  (0 children)
And every rendition of Zirene's dance.
[–]CubanContingency [score hidden]  (0 children)
Sorry, you're the minority. Some of us actually like some humor.
Your unfounded speculations and fluff will not be missed. Hopefully the mods can return this sub to normal.
Oh, and nice karma for your post, jerk.
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God bless.
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He is Nazibot, Adolf's Little Helper.
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    I manage the bot's config, so does that make me the second best moderator?
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      [–]Ninjakkr 117 points118 points119 points  (36 children)
      this is just gonna end up getting removed aswell..
      [–]luluoncrack [score hidden]  (26 children)
      yup, citing some bullshit reason
      [–]WhipWing[Kinrah] [score hidden]  (3 children)
      "Your thread has been removed because in June 1996 Thomas O' Reilly of Glasnevin Co. Dublin ate a pancake for breakfast without a glass of OJ."
      [–]admiralpoptart [score hidden]  (0 children)
      What a monster.
      [–]blank92 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      This is reasonable, IMO.
      [–]zombykilr777 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Sounds about right
      [–]Zimzams123 [score hidden]  (9 children)
      Not even, they've even stopped bothering to make up fake reasons now
      [–]Logron [score hidden]  (0 children)
      [–]HandlesMcAvery [score hidden]  (7 children)
      Probably because the reasons they have are completely valid so they don't have to make up fake ones.
      [–]Zimzams123 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      which is why they went from always giving one even when it was painfully obvious to not giving any reason at all. Makes sense
      [–]SakisRakis [score hidden]  (5 children)
      Where do you get that notion of probability from?
      [–]HandlesMcAvery [score hidden]  (4 children)
      Whenever people complain about posts being removed the posts were breaking rules. Like this Ekko's from the deep one.
      [–]SakisRakis [score hidden]  (3 children)
      What about this post?
      I do not know how you could claim any knowledge of probability since by definition the aggressive deletion of threads results in you not seeing most of the threads before they are removed. The mods also do not offer any sort of public justification for the removals.
      [–]HandlesMcAvery [score hidden]  (2 children)
      You are gonna have to give me more context than that. I have no idea what that post even is. I mean, they said they removed it because it was just about the removal of another thread.
      since by definition the aggressive deletion of threads results in you not seeing most of the threads before they are removed.
      I've browsed /new. It is an absolute shit hole.
      And the mods don't need to offer public justification for removals. Do you seriously want them to have a sticky where they list all the posts they removed and why they removed them or something?
      [–]SakisRakis [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Are you downvoting all of my responses?
      That post was about how there were exclusive statements made by both C9 and Dignitas to RL, and that it was a shame that due to the blanket content ban on the subreddit people were being deprived of official statements from major teams.
      It went on to note that it had been mentioned by a mod that there was possibility of reconsideration of that decision, and that he thought this was a good opportunity to do so.
      There was a discussion consisting of approximately 200 comments when the post was deleted.
      As to your other point, when a mod deletes a thread there is nothing stopping them from posting a comment in the thread stating the reason for the deletion. So no, I do not want the absurd solution you suggested, but instead a reasonable one.
      Side note: I suggest you not give authority figures too much benefit of the doubt when it comes to the exercise of power.
      [–]HandlesMcAvery [score hidden]  (0 children)
      As to your other point, when a mod deletes a thread there is nothing stopping them from posting a comment in the thread stating the reason for the deletion.
      Well, I think that is a waste of time. Most posts are pretty obvious why they got removed. I think if it reaches a certain threshold of votes it should be required to comment on the removal. But they always get downvoted anyway when they do that and then some people complain that they didn't comment.
      [–]REMagic42 [score hidden]  (10 children)
      No, this one SHOULD be removed because it IS not LoL related. But they should not have removed the Ekko from the deep thread.
      [–]gayinhellkid [score hidden]  (0 children)
      No that's not true. Meta threads should definitely be allowed, otherwise moderators would be free of criticism.
      [–]durta [score hidden]  (1 child)
      So we're not allowed to discuss the ongoing problems in our own community?
      [–]Tamerlin[Eithelduin] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Well, they removed posts criticizing the mods during the latest Incarnati0n/Richard Lewis debacle. And they never came with a statement or anything. It's pathetic.
      [–]Sol0player [score hidden]  (2 children)
      it is directly related to this sub's meta, which inherently makes it on topic, even if it isnt directly related to LoL
      [–]REMagic42 [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Isn't there a META tag for this?
      [–]Sol0player [score hidden]  (0 children)
      That's something for the OP to do
      [–]Bozly [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Probably because it alludes to richard lewis in some way
      [–]sepulker [score hidden]  (0 children)
      its related to a LoL related sub which is LoL related, or are you too fucking dumb to see that lil guy?
      [–]HandlesMcAvery [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Except they should have. It very clearly breaks the rules. I don't want the front page to be just memes and jokes.
      [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (0 children)
      yeah but yiur Argumentation is flawed. this should not exist in the first place. not should get removed. if its there and ekko was there too this wouldnt be on the frontpage.
      [–]SakisRakis [score hidden]  (0 children)
      They will not cite to anything.
      [–]InFlamesWeTrust [score hidden]  (1 child)
      as much as people say this, i have literally never seen the /r/leagueoflegends mods remove a post because it criticized them.
      [–]Ninjakkr [score hidden]  (0 children)
      this is the issue, it gets removed so people don't realize its gone the only reason I noticed is because i commented and when someone replied and i went back to the thread i saw it as removed
      [–]TarragonSpice [score hidden]  (0 children)
      shitpost complaining about shitposts is going to get deleted like a shitpost
      [–]Anivia_is_not_kfc [score hidden]  (0 children)
      And what will you do when it isn't?
      [–]djeee[dje] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (4 children)
      People always say this in theses threads but they never get removed...
      Stop playing the victim.
      edit: I was talking about these "all mods are nazis" posts.
      [–]SakisRakis [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Except for this one
      [–]djeee[dje] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I was talking about these "all mods are nazis" posts.
      [–]Ninjakkr [score hidden]  (1 child)
      there was a thread like this half an hour ago that got removed ill pm you it
      [–]djeee[dje] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I was talking about these "all mods are nazis" posts.
      [–]Ultramarine6 262 points263 points264 points  (67 children)
      I also really do not appreciate that we aren't even allowed to discuss how our own community is governed. They'll shut this down any second now. I think personally, we should be able to discuss how things are banned and why. Blanket banning doesn't solve things, it's not effective, and we don't want it. As I stated before, if we did we'd be using bots with keywords and a report system isntead of a few people. We want thigns banned inteligently. Harmless and positive posts with overwhelmingly fun and positive reactions don't fit the criteria to ban. IMO.
      [–]Gulstab [score hidden]  (2 children)
      I'm curious as to how you think a non democratic system is supposed to hear all 680,000+ of us and weigh each opinion fairly.
      I'm all for the subreddit members having more say in stuff like this but I think you're underestimating the work load and overestimating the people's abilities that are involved.
      [–]hurf_mcdurf [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I think you're underestimating the work load
      The workload is only so huge because the mods are all mediocre asians followers authoritarians who have no sense of what they're actually supposed to be doing aside from making arbitrary ineffectual rules.
      [–]uberlordpi [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Don't forget the mods take into account the lurkers to an extent. A group of people that don't care enough to contribute to any extent matter? Not even an up vote or a comment or a subscription, their voice should mean nothing.
      [–]Logron [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Sad. (credit to /u/Obsolence)
      [–]ThisIsMyFloor [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Have you(or the author) heard of the magical thing called cropping?...
      [–]Supercharmeleon [score hidden]  (30 children)
      It's not "our" community. This subreddit isn't a democracy, the mods hold all the power.
      [–]xpowerss [score hidden]  (8 children)
      https://www.reddit.com/about/values/ Reddit admins suggest otherwise.
      [–]Sikletrynet [score hidden]  (6 children)
      I think this is a very central point.
      Be stewards, not dictators. The community owns itself.
      [–]ReganDryke[Void Spirit] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (5 children)
      Friendly reminder about rediquette and specially about how to use downvote.
      Vote. If you think something contributes to conversation, upvote it. If you think it does not contribute to the subreddit it is posted in or is off-topic in a particular community, downvote it.
      Yet. We saw the mods thread about rules being mass downvoted.
      So yeah. The community clearly said that they doesn't consider rules discussion to be relevant to the subreddit.
      [–]Kabada [score hidden]  (0 children)
      The downvotes were because of how the mods framed the discussion. They should fucking not delete the discussion threads users make. They get upvoted.
      [–]alfie678 [score hidden]  (1 child)
      What? In what way did the community "clearly say" anything? Mod posts get downvoted because the mods suck. Your post makes 0 sense.
      [–]noitaniccav [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Just ignore and downvote him. Every time one of these discussions pops up he's in here sweating the mods to help them out. Wouldn't be too surprised if it's some alt account.
      [–]zeromussc [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I think it was being mass down voted in protest due to people not liking the rules. Not the discussion about rules
      [–]nut_butter_420 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Spoiler, the admins are cucks.
      [–]jaykenton(EU-W) [score hidden]  (8 children)
      Your words make me sad.
      [–]Helios747 [score hidden]  (6 children)
      Why? That's how reddit is run. If you don't like it, you're 300% able to go make your own sub.
      The folks over at /r/riotfreelol did just that. They know that it's completely up to the mods on what goes into a sub, they weren't happy about what the mods allowed and didn't, so they made their own place.
      It's really not hard.
      [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (5 children)
      yeah but the point is that we are many. and they are few. and they give fucks about us.
      I agree that we can make our subs ans thats good but there need to be some active engagement of is here
      [–]Helios747 [score hidden]  (4 children)
      Doesn't matter that we are many and they are few. They make the rules.
      If a website had 24573457636 users and the webmaster made a change people didn't like, would the webmaster be REQUIRED to comply with the user base? Fuck no. He/she can do whatever the fuck they like. BECAUSE this is the internet, we're more than free to simply leave and go take our activity somewhere else. That's the beauty of it.
      [–]alfie678 [score hidden]  (1 child)
      The fact that you think "that's the beauty of it" is fucking cancerous. What you are saying is all true, but it is still an awful way to run anything related to discussion or content.
      [–]Helios747 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Why is it "Fucking cancerous"?
      [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (1 child)
      yeah. sure he makes the rules. but we make the content. and if we just all left which we wont cuz we lazy. theyd cripple.
      [–]Helios747 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Honestly if those of us who weren't happy left, it'd likely make the mods lives a fuck of a lot easier. Less traffic to deal with and fewer reports to have to sift through.
      I remember the mods of one of the defaults, couldn't remember which one, ELI5? Doing an AMA at one point. They have to sift through hundreds of posts that don't fit guidelines of their subs and deal with 100-200+ reports a day.
      Meh, everybody would win tbh.
      [–]Feral_Taylor_Fury [score hidden]  (0 children)
      dae mods are nazis
      [–]ChaosticMoon(NA) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Every thread I see discussing about act of mods I see comment like this. "If you don't like this just take it somewhere else." It's bullshit. It's community that come here and populate this place. We have mods because this subreddit need rules, and we invest trust in mods, believing that with their moderation this subreddit would be a better place. If Mods think just because they have some arbitrary permission they can do whatever they want, it's only a matter of time community start taking action.
      [–]ifancytacos [score hidden]  (4 children)
      I 100% agree with you. The problem is it shouldn't be like that. This is a community, and we should be able to overthrow them if they're acting like pricks. Where is the sense of accountability? I mean, sure, we can easily start a new League subreddit and mod it ourselves, but it would never get to this size. Mods should be held accountable for their actions, just as we are.
      [–]Abujaffer [score hidden]  (2 children)
      OK, this is a super unpopular opinion around here, but I think the mods are too lenient. The issue isn't removal of threads like the "ekko from the deep" thread, it's the fact that there's a bunch of shit threads on the front page right now that aren't being touched. It's a lack of consistency; this subreddit needs moderation so it doesn't devolve into /r/gaming, and right now there's far too little of it.
      My favorite subreddit to go to is /r/Games because of the strict moderation being done. All the posts on the frontpage are discussions/news/reviews/etc. and are all threads I find that pertain the topic of the subreddit. Strict moderation is what keeps the quality high; otherwise, the subreddit would devolve into /r/gaming-like subreddits that are a complete waste of time to visit.
      Personally, I think /r/leagueoflegends has far too many posts on the frontpage that are completely useless. The mods should become more consistent; if they're going to remove a post like the "Ekko from the deep" one, they need to remove the "EUW having issues" thread, the "Can AD junglers get their 5 AD back" thread, and the "Happy birthday Braum!" thread that hit the first 2 pages today. Constant reposts such as "We should get summoner icons as Mastery rewards and "Will we get more refunds" should be removed as well, once such a post hits the frontpage once and gets added to the riotpls page.
      [–]Logron [score hidden]  (1 child)
      This sub was created as a platform of discussion and content-sharing between LoL players, not some official Riot forum.
      [–]Abujaffer [score hidden]  (0 children)
      No, it was created as a platform of discussion about LoL, not a Facebook for people who play League.
      [–]phoenixrawr [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Mods are held accountable for their actions, but the rules that govern moderators are the Reddit site-wide rules. Subreddits were built to allow people to create and manage communities the way they wanted to, systematically forcing moderators out of their own communities goes against that principle. Maybe a new league community won't immediately steal all 600,000 subscribers from the current one, but that doesn't mean the system is flawed.
      [–]PinguXeF [score hidden]  (2 children)
      Is it not possible to make a petition, and give to the some mods up higher in the foodchain of Reddit? Like, send it to the leaders of Reddit?
      [–]Jogindah [score hidden]  (0 children)
      no, only way to get a subreddit is to go to /r/redditrequest and request the subreddit, only if top mod has been inactive for 2 months or more
      [–]Koffi_Annan [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Reddit admins are rumored to have a strong relationship with mods of the sub as well as Riot in general, which if true would lead to things going nowhere fast.
      [–]ValiantSerpant [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Is it at all possible to get reddit admins to step in and stop this?
      [–]-Shank- [score hidden]  (0 children)
      And the people in power taking that mindset is a very good way to run into controversy much more frequently.
      [–]iBlueCrayon [score hidden]  (4 children)
      we some of us don't want it
      I want it.
      [–]Ultramarine6 [score hidden]  (1 child)
      That's fair, and your opinion should be heard as well.
      [–]Outt63 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Whoa whoa whoa, this is reddit, rational and respectful responses are not tolerated!
      [–]mattiejj [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I agree with you, but in a democracy, we will lose to the dank meme-spacers.
      [–]Ryktech [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Honestly speaking, why do you want blanket banking?
      [–]timofox [score hidden]  (0 children)
      What are you talking about? They gave us the opportunity to discuss the new rules we had no say in whatsoever, can't get any better than that...
      /s
      [–]obeseinthemidwest [score hidden]  (3 children)
      lol. what does banned intelligently mean? if they did that ppl would just be upset at them for not bieng consistent....
      [–]Ultramarine6 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      It means leaving a harmless thread that many rioters had even become involved in that was in no way devaluing or harming the subreddit. I understand that this may not be an entirely popular opinion, but I'm expressing mine none the less.
      [–]Decurion1234[S] [score hidden]  (0 children)
      They aren't even being consistent right now. Loads of bullshit threads about one-second game plays get through all the time, whereas meaningful ones that actually garner great community participation are deleted because they aren't 110% LoL gameplay related.
      [–]calliphi[Waffle] (NA) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      It means that the mods should act in the spirit of their rules, not in the exact wording of their rules. The spirit of this rule is to prevent the sub from being flooded by bad and/or reposted jokes. Deleting a well-received, original joke is contrary to the rule's spirit.
      [–]HandlesMcAvery [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I also really do not appreciate that we aren't even allowed to discuss how our own community is governed. They'll shut this down any second now.
      They've literally let discussions like this happen over and over. Wasn't there a stickied post for discussing this stuff like a week ago? This persecution complex you guys have is really crazy.
      [–]Rasengan2012 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Mention the Reddit admins and have a call to remove our MODS and get new ones
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (16 children)
      They'll shut this down any second now.
      No they won't. Stop being hysterical.
      [–]Ultramarine6 [score hidden]  (5 children)
      You seem to have jumped in Late. This was thread number 3 on the topic of their decision. The other two identical threads were shut down. stop being ignorant
      [–]SamWhite comment score below threshold[score hidden]  (4 children)
      Having not seen the other threads, I can't make a judgement on why they were removed. This one still hasn't been, so remove the mote from thine own eye motherfucker.
      [–]Ultramarine6 [score hidden]  (3 children)
      My point was intended to be a sharp one, it wasn't fair to call me out on something you'd no knowledge of (definition of ignorance). What I said at the time was relevant, and I'm surprised this thread is here at all, given how quickly the last two were shut down about the same thing. You're the one throwing unwarranted insults, I'm only sharing what happened.
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (2 children)
      it wasn't fair to call me out on something you'd no knowledge of
      And yet you think it's fair to attack someone for not having seen deleted posts that you didn't reference? I'm sticking with my judgement of hysterical, seems pretty warranted.
      [–]Ultramarine6 [score hidden]  (1 child)
      I placed no attack, I made a small rebuttal against being called hysterical with an entirely true statement. Keep trying, bro.
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I placed no attack
      So me saying don't be hysterical is an attack, you calling me ignorant isn't. I'd call that hypocrisy, but more likely you just can't think it through that far.
      with an entirely true statement.
      This post is still up. Are you even paying attention?
      Keep trying, bro.
      No, I'm done trying with someone who wants to be outraged about something that still hasn't happened in a post complaining about a shitpost being removed. Take a moment and consider your own behaviour for once.
      [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (9 children)
      I bet they will. they hate this
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (8 children)
      People screaming about a shitpost being removed? Trying to start a riot over them doing exactly what they're supposed to do and then crying about the rules one week after they posted a discussion thread about rules and got downvoted? I doubt I'd be thrilled, but the people in here have got zero perspective.
      [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (7 children)
      that is your opinion. I think you wrong and we right that this ekko stuff was at least partly funny and lol related. and we decide what we wanna see. if its neat. fucking let it be. everyone can enjoy it. and we wont piss them off
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (6 children)
      we right that this ekko stuff was at least partly funny and lol related.
      Or you could sub to /r/LeagueOfMemes which is intended for this stuff. Why aren't you?
      [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (5 children)
      didnt know this was a thing
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (4 children)
      Well, now you do and can stop worrying about shitposts getting removed from the main subreddit. If you need any more help there's a list of related subreddits on the sidebar, along with the rules.
      [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (3 children)
      why is stuff like "thanks rito for letting me into msi" still not deleted fron this sub? its definitly not league related. but thats none of my Business
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (2 children)
      Did you report it to the mods?
      [–]Polybius_is_real [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Also one of the most infiruating things on reddit is the shadowbanning system.
      [–]vexillarius9 [score hidden]  (14 children)
      They also removed "I think we all want official team statements on this subreddit" thread which made it to the front page.
      [–]NaiRoLoL [score hidden]  (6 children)
      Thats because they dont like to be criticized :)
      Ppl in that thread were still upset that RLs content got banned, so they shut these down and hope the community just gives up on complaining.
      [–]correiajoao[Sir Jóni] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Thats because they dont like to be criticized :)
      Nazi mods!
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      [–]siaukia1 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      And we know how well silencing criticism tends to work really well on the Internet. I seriously wonder about people sometimes.
      [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (0 children)
      he is ricardo luíz now. and they are fuckfaces for not wanting to be critizised for being fuckfaces. see the circle? thats whats happening right now
      [–]Doctursea [score hidden]  (1 child)
      There were kinda already dozens of threads on the topic open, ready, and filled with mod statements. I can see why they removed it because the content gets old. I'm not saying that the topic shouldn't be talked about, but the constantly making threads about it takes away from the quality of the sub way more than the exclusion of the Lichard Rewis threads.
      [–]NaiRoLoL [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Imo they should just revert their stupid censoring ban and allow his content again. RL is even the person who is suffering the LEAST from this, because he has a fix salary at the daily dot, so they arent even achieving their goal of getting back at him, all they do with that is removing valuable content that had lasting value and influence in the League esports scene.
      And as we can see from examples like Jacob Wolf, new "dirt diggers" arent nearly as good at this job as RL is.
      [–]azns123 [score hidden]  (4 children)
      Apparently we aren't allowed to talk about post removal. God forbid we try to talk about why a post was removed.
      [–]WaffleBit [score hidden]  (3 children)
      We know where this is going.
      Nazi mods
      [–]fostataaaa [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Hail Hydra!
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      [–]OmiC [score hidden]  (1 child)
      I understand why they are removing this stuff, and it makes perfect sense. Many people, perhaps even the majority, do not care about the drama or who was banned. They come here to see LoL related content, and that's it. Meta threads can often be annoying and just get in the way of what people actually care about.
      However, there is a very easy solution to this problem. Create a /r/lolmeta subreddit that is specifically about the rules of this subreddit. Put a banner at the top of this subreddit linking to it, and the people who actually care can go there to discuss it. The mods have to be willing to engage there though.
      [–]Carinhas [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I understand why they are removing this stuff, and it makes perfect sense. Many people, perhaps even the majority, do not care about the drama
      Are you implying that the mods care what the community thinks? Because if you are, the huge majority of people come here for news about the professional scene, and we all saw how mods didn't give a shit when they banned Ricard luiz content.
      [–]SkumbagRino[Eternial] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (14 children)
      Remember the Rammus thread? Mods actually used their time on deleting every single comment on that thread, even Rioters participated in that thread.
      [–]ParagonHL [score hidden]  (10 children)
      That's just sad lmao...
      [–]GUGUGUNGI [score hidden]  (10 children)
      How come? It's against the rules, so it got deleted. You could say that it was just a thread for fun, although it also seems as though there are other threads for that such as trashtalk threads.
      [–]erandur [score hidden]  (3 children)
      Retarded rules are just as sad. Removing posts has become the moderator way of downvoting.
      [–]Kranicc [score hidden]  (0 children)
      You can day a rule is retarded, but you might want to give reason. Consistency is the main issues mods have to deal with when it comes to following rules. If something people like gets deleted people are going to ask for a rule and when they see the rule and realize other shit is still up, then they'll be mad. Then if all that other shit is deleted other people (or the same people) are going to be mad because their favorite content was deleted, then if the rule wasn't followed at all, shitty content will work its way that the rule was made to prevent, making even more complaints about how shitty the subreddit is. Note all three of these situations have occurred in this subreddit.
      [–]ThePowerfulSquirrel [score hidden]  (1 child)
      The rules aren't retarded. If they allowed the OK post to stay up, then it would set a precedent that low quality jokes are accepted. The last think I want is this subreddit turning into /r/Gaming where shitty memes and jokes are the standard.
      [–]Birgerz[Glasslip is the greatest] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      They fucking remove posts about complaining on removed posts...
      Let me tell you this: The rules are fucking retarded when you can not even complain on it. To test this I will make a post on a alt and the name of the post will be: are we DDR now? and just link to http://i.imgur.com/NpvToVj.jpg
      [–]drec6 [score hidden]  (1 child)
      It was directly LoL related though, we were quoting our favorite Champion.
      [–]GUGUGUNGI [score hidden]  (0 children)
      lol
      No but seriously, I'm pretty sure it fell under the meme/joke rule if all the comments were deleted.
      [–]SHITPOSTING_LOUDLY_ [score hidden]  (1 child)
      No, like they literally went through thousands of comments and deleted them individually
      [–]TakoEshi [score hidden]  (0 children)
      You can get automod to do that.
      [–]not2close[Reloaded1] (NA) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Live life by the book huh? You must be fun to chill with
      [–]CaptainUnusual [score hidden]  (0 children)
      This isn't meant to be a forum for fun, though. Do you think League is some sort of game?
      [–]cdcformatc [score hidden]  (0 children)
      AutoModerator lets you "lock" threads and also nuke them automagically. So no, they didn't take the time to delete every thread, they pushed one button.
      [–]icantdecideonausrnme [score hidden]  (0 children)
      That's not ok.
      [–]Obsolence [score hidden]  (8 children)
      I had the pleasure to receive a message like this one
      [–]Logron [score hidden]  (3 children)
      Why is picflute not in there, he is the mod I see the most when it comes to deleting posts and banning users.
      [–]noitaniccav [score hidden]  (2 children)
      Nah, Picflute deletes stuff. EnigmaBlade is the one that gets off on banning users.
      [–]Logron [score hidden]  (1 child)
      IIRC, it's 3 months old (which is why KoreanTerran is still on there). Picflute leads the "banned users" chart.
      [–]noitaniccav [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Ohhh he does. Huh, well it doesn't surprise me. Thought EnigmaBlade was the one that jerked it to banning people. Guess they both do :^)
      [–]The_johnarch [score hidden]  (1 child)
      What nazi mods
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      [–]Limakoko [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Hmm making an entirely new thread consisting of complaining about a thread that is against subreddit rules being deleted.... yeah I'm 100% in support of having those threads being deleted too.
      "Let's complain about moderators doing their job at moderating" is a useless post and should be deleted. Want joke threads? /r/leagueofmemes
      [–]Reitane [score hidden]  (3 children)
      Still confused, if people hate the mods so much, then why not make a new subreddit?
      Then again, it doesn't matter who owns it, as soon as a decision is made that a group of people don't like it blows up out of proportion. Same with Blizzard, with Riot, with Valve, with Bethesda, with Reddit mods, with youtubers.
      [–]Goyu [score hidden]  (0 children)
      It's kind of a sustained pattern of disapproval. I think the reason people don't make a new subreddit is because they view it as their community which is being twisted into something they no longer enjoy. If people came in, didn't like what they saw, they'd leave. But when you've been active in this sub for over a year and over the course of a few months it becomes aggressively more and more heavily moderated, you don't just leave your sub and form another. You try to fix what has been broken. See what I mean?
      [–]icantdecideonausrnme [score hidden]  (0 children)
      They did make a new sub. /r/riotfreelol
      [–]Aruemar [score hidden]  (0 children)
      they did.
      [–]ReganDryke[Void Spirit] (EU-W) 91 points92 points93 points  (47 children)
      Are you saying that because post are popular it mean they become immune to rules ?
      [–]PewPewUDeaded [score hidden]  (2 children)
      It's mainly them citing "low-quality content" from what I can understand. A bunch of the stuff hitting the front page can be perceived as low-quality content (and I can agree with a good deal of them) which is why people are raging that these sort of posts that take more effort to come up with are getting removed.
      [–]ReganDryke[Void Spirit] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (1 child)
      If you see any post at front page right now or in the previous day that were low quality content, feel free to post them and report them.
      Or even directly message the mods about it.
      [–]PewPewUDeaded [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Well a lot of them skim over this rule. Videos for example, it's implied that some effort was made to record the mediocre clip, edit, and upload it. Even if it is truly low-quality, non-memorable, or just straight up boring, it gets a relatively free pass for being a video following these parameters to make it seem like at least some effort was put into making it. In my opinion, I think some clever comments or puns made in the comments of some threads take more thought than a lot of these videos with debateably and it makes me wonder why we really need to filter them.
      TLDR: If it's uninteresting it will get downvoted and the posts that are more interesting or relevant will be upvoted, so why do we need to ban stuff mods declare "low-quality", even if it is just a joke?
      [–]Noobity[TheRealNoobity] (NA) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I'd argue for that, yeah. As long as it has something to do with the game itself, and it's popular, it should be where it gets voted to. Would make it really easy to determine what's what. Is it a video where people are playing lol? Is it a post from a pro lol player? Is it an image of cosplay of a lol champion? I mean, I can understand that they don't want "low quality" content, but if we're fucking brainless and want that at the top then that's what should be at the top.
      [–]TDuncker -2 points-1 points0 points  (33 children)
      Which rule did it break?
      [–]ReganDryke[Void Spirit] (EU-W) 44 points45 points46 points  (28 children)
      According to OP it was a joke thread. Therefore it broke the :
      ✘ Memes, jokes, or NSFW content.
      TBH I didn't see the original post so I can't be sure why exactly it got nuked. But according to OP information it's the most likely reason.
      [–]jrkenny5 [score hidden]  (18 children)
      The original thread was "Ekko's not from X place (zaun?), he's really from the deep!" and linked to a youtube clip of nautilus saying "echoes... from the deep"
      [–]ViciousFenrir [score hidden]  (11 children)
      Yes, which is the punch line for a joke. It was a joke thread.
      [–]Zimzams123 [score hidden]  (9 children)
      What and that saint thread isn't? There is at least one jokey thread on the FrontPage every day, why do they suddenly care about applying that rule now?
      [–]GUGUGUNGI [score hidden]  (5 children)
      If you mean the one on the front page, the title was a joke yes. However, it linked to a highlight of his career from 2011-2015 I believe, whereas the ekko thread was solely a joke
      [–]Zimzams123 [score hidden]  (4 children)
      Man you really gonna try and nitpick? How about every ESEX article, or the thousands of joke/meme videos that have been frontpage, or like every other joke thread ever made? This is inexcusable e from the moderators and only highlights how inconsistent they are with applying their "rules"
      [–]GUGUGUNGI [score hidden]  (2 children)
      I don't see how that's nitpicking, considering it was the example you provided.
      ESEX seems more of a grey area, although it might be allowed since it is a satire news source. If you want to find out, message the mods.
      Joke/meme videos might not be covered under the rule, and doesn't seem to be based on the videos made for entertainment that are on the front page sometimes.
      Other than that, there has not been that many solely joke threads on the front page for a while that I can recall.
      [–]Zimzams123 [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Well then you have the memory of a goldfish XD
      [–]ReganDryke[Void Spirit] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      There is a difference between a satirical article or a highlight video exploiting a meme about a player and a joke of 2 line.
      [–]lenaro [score hidden]  (2 children)
      So what you're saying is that this rule should be applied more? Cause, okay, yeah, I agree with that.
      [–]durta [score hidden]  (0 children)
      That's one way to look at it because it's pretty hypocritical that the rule only applies to some joke threads and not all joke threads. Either fully enforce your rules or don't enforce them at all.
      [–]Zimzams123 [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Im saying they should be applied consistently. Id rather the mods didn't apply these sorts of nazi ideals, but if they are set on doing so at least do it properly
      [–]HandlesMcAvery [score hidden]  (0 children)
      That is the definition of a joke.
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (2 children)
      Wait, people are complaining about something like that being removed? Jesus christ, some people in this subreddit will grab any excuse to rabble rabble.
      [–]Aurorious[Sir Bruce Swain] (NA) [score hidden]  (1 child)
      I for one found it hilarious. If a piece of content of questionable worth not only makes it to the front page, but garners a response from Riot staff, i say let it live. If you don't like it, that's what the downvote button is for. This is a democracy after all.
      [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Or you could sub to /r/LeagueOfMemes which is intended for that kind of thing instead of being upset that it's not allowed here.
      If you don't like it, that's what the downvote button is for. This is a democracy after all.
      One, no it's not and was never intended to be. Two, what do you think moderators are for?
      [–]RedheadAgatha(OCE) [score hidden]  (1 child)
      What a shitpost.
      [–]TooMuchCCPlsStahp [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Indeed it was.
      [–]uberlordpi [score hidden]  (6 children)
      Yet that Huni gif doesn't break this rule? All we're asking for is consistency and transparency. It's our community as much as it is theirs.
      [–]ReganDryke[Void Spirit] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (5 children)
      Which Thread ?
      If you think a thread is breaking the rules I suggest you send a message to moderator. And that you report the thread too.
      [–]Entes [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I reported the thread he is referencing due to its toxic nature and the fact that it isn't LoL gaming related.
      Don't act like reporting threads does anything when the mods collude together and decide what makes it to the front page.
      [–]TheOneandOnly_V2 [score hidden]  (3 children)
      You seem to be the only person arguing for the removal of these things ;p
      [–]TooMuchCCPlsStahp [score hidden]  (0 children)
      I'm also tired of this shit reaching front page, along with the stupid EUW is lagging/skin ideas/I got drophacked/Rito pls/TSM and CLG are trash threads.
      It doesn't excuse the mods from removing things without saying why, and some rules are bullshit, but I'm glad they remove at least some of the shit in here.
      [–]martacbrr [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Well, he does have a point. I honestly do not care if it was removed or not, but people complain so much about shitposting but throw a hissy fit whenever a poorly thought out joke gets to the front page and removed.
      [–]LmAoMyFrO [score hidden]  (0 children)
      No I agree with him. As do many others. The mods held up to their own rules.
      [–]SirenX_EUW [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Ah so this guy who made this League of Legends in 2017 with the dark secret past was a serious thread? Why not deleted?
      [–]ReganDryke[Void Spirit] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
      Probably because it was a funny fan fiction and not a joke.
      But you can always message the mods about that and ask them yourself.
      [–]IfishIII 23 points24 points25 points  (3 children)
      • No joke threads.
      • No low-value content.
      [–]Neighbor_ [score hidden]  (2 children)
      The amount of shit posts you need to go through just to get to actual content on this sub is ridiculous.
      [–]TooMuchCCPlsStahp [score hidden]  (1 child)
      Agree, and anyone who browses /new should understand.
      [–]picfluteElcea de Rox Ima [score hidden]  (0 children)
      To those who browse /r/new and report and vote on content. <3
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        [–]HolypenguinHere(RU) [score hidden]  (25 children)
        It really is laughable that people defended the mods about the Ricardo Luis fiasco. Do you really think it's going to stop there? I just want to see the best league content there is on this subreddit and they're not allowing that for some reason. This place used to be really, really nice but now they're either going against their own rules or only applying them to select threads.
        [–]Sikletrynet [score hidden]  (19 children)
        If people here keep pressuring them, it's only a matter of time before they will buckle under the pressure. I hardly doubt they find enjoyment in getting bashed all day either
        [–]holykitty [score hidden]  (4 children)
        i bet you a large portion of them see themselves as martyrs for the cause and need to get shitted on for self validation.
        [–]PlNGAS[Only Plays Swain] (NA) [score hidden]  (1 child)
        I actually want to bet real life money on this because you and I both know you are bullshitting yourself. These mods didn't come from out of nowhere and decided to control a random, popular subreddit. These people also enjoy league of legends and were once part of the community, just like you and me.
        [–]IcyColdStare[Windstance] (NA) ¤=[]:::::/ [score hidden]  (0 children)
        Can confirm! Been here two years, been a mod for (ALMOST) two months :D
        [–]uberlordpi [score hidden]  (0 children)
        See: KoreanTerran.
        [–]MCI21 [score hidden]  (0 children)
        That was KT's thing before he stopped modding
        [–]Doctursea [score hidden]  (0 children)
        Honestly one of my least favourite parts of /r/leagueoflegends is not the mods, but the vocal minority that are constantly complaining about anything and everything very loudly.
        [–]HolypenguinHere(RU) [score hidden]  (11 children)
        I just want them to understand that there's zero harm in allowing Ricardo Luis's content to be posted. Literally the only bad thing about his stuff being posted is that he gets views, and they're under the impression that he's a vote-brigading evil man who doesn't deserve that. And sadly they care more about that than their own community of 680,000 people deserving his good content and news. Seriously, how long can they possibly expect his name to be treated like fucking Voldemort on here? It's ridiculous.
        [–]GUGUGUNGI [score hidden]  (10 children)
        zero harm in allowing Ricardo Luis's content to be posted
        only bad thing about his stuff being posted is that he gets views, and they're under the impression that he's a vote-brigading evil man who doesn't deserve that
        I disagree. They're under the impression? I think there's sufficient evidence to show that he has vote brigaded.
        How is there zero harm in allowing his content, if the author of the content goes against site rules, and causes users to be harassed? If you let that take place, it seems quite similar to saying "Yeah we're fine with your vote brigading and harassment of users"
        It's arguable that his content should still be allowed to inform people, but to say that there's zero harm? That's a pretty big understatement
        [–]waldoze [score hidden]  (2 children)
        I think there's sufficient evidence to show that he has vote brigaded.
        [Citation Needed]
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          [–]HolypenguinHere(RU) [score hidden]  (5 children)
          It doesn't matter how many times people point toward Ricardo's tweets that link to Reddit threads he doesn't like. He didn't ask anyone to do anything. Those who follow him have free will.
          What does his League content have to do with site rules? If people start posting articles of him trashing Reddit or the mods then sure, that's harmful and shouldn't be allowed. But there is zero harm in letting through the content that we want to hear about that we otherwise would otherwise miss (and be informed of in the comment sections that Ricardo made an article about it). MYM management abuse, roster swap news and player transfers are the types of articles that any of us care about from him, and they're all harmless.
          [–]GUGUGUNGI [score hidden]  (4 children)
          He didn't ask anyone to do anything. Those who follow him have free will.
          Based on my understanding of the totalbiscuit ban, you don't have to directly ask for upvotes or downvotes to count as vote brigading. Since he tweeted about certain threads or comments in particular with negative light, you can see how that be looked at as asking for support
          Edit: My bad, he was just warned not banned for that
          [–]Carinhas [score hidden]  (3 children)
          They warned total biscuit there, he didn't get banned. RL got 0 warnings and until someone proves that he did like the mods keep mumbling banning his content is just a childish vendetta.
          [–]GUGUGUNGI [score hidden]  (0 children)
          Oh yeah my bad about the ban. If he didn't get any warnings at all, yeah that wouldn't be very just then.
          [–]Ikimasen [score hidden]  (0 children)
          "Zero warnings"
          [–]Kranicc [score hidden]  (0 children)
          While I'm not going to bother doing research on the situation, how do you know he got zero warnings? From my memory of the situation both sides admitted to communicating about this for a while and this was like the last straw.
          [–]mormotomyia [score hidden]  (0 children)
          well link kept up with the pressure very well.
          [–]Blind_Justice[Blind Justice] (EU-NE) [score hidden]  (3 children)
          What really grinds my gears is that we, the users, the guys that keep this thing running, aren't getting to see the content because of a few peoples self interest.
          Reddit is a medium that lets us get to the content we want faster, the only difference between a user and a mod should be the fact that a mod is willing to spend some of their time removing trash content from the subreddit. Once they start deciding what content we get to see, then it has went too far.
          [–]Ikimasen [score hidden]  (1 child)
          No one is stopping you from going to his website.
          [–]Blind_Justice[Blind Justice] (EU-NE) [score hidden]  (0 children)
          Yes I know, but why should I be forced to? I want to discuss the content on reddit.
          [–]HolypenguinHere(RU) [score hidden]  (0 children)
          I'm pretty sure it says somewhere on the subreddit (or used to) that /r/Leagueoflegends is supposed to be the BEST source of League-related content. And yet here we are, with some of the best articles censored because of a vendetta.
          [–]grandtheftgnome [score hidden]  (0 children)
          The funniest/saddest part about this is that the mods aren't even getting anything out of this. It's literally just dick flexing. I guess imposing overly specific rules and having lots of "little people" hate them makes them feel important.
          [–]Chnams [score hidden]  (1 child)
          Sorry man, looks like the thread wasn't top-quality /r/leagueoflegends content, unlike 2s gifs of pro players, smite threads, and quality shitposting.
          [–]CrsIaanix [score hidden]  (0 children)
          hahahaha dae saint missed smite dot com?
          [–]Nicebet [score hidden]  (4 children)
          This subreddit is shit and everyone knows it.
          [–]TreeOfSecrets [score hidden]  (2 children)
          The thing is, this is not the only general LoL subreddit. There are others.
          [–]AndreasOp [score hidden]  (1 child)
          Tell me a good one. Seriously, i would like to know an alternative :/
          [–]SHITPOSTING_LOUDLY_ [score hidden]  (0 children)
          Fuck this subreddit
          [–]timofox [score hidden]  (0 children)
          Well, mods are free to do as they please and that's what they do. Time to use another subreddit
          [–][deleted]  (7 children)
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            [–]artemis_ii [score hidden]  (1 child)
            Maybe that is a bad rule.
            [–]Kimster4Life [score hidden]  (0 children)
            You want this subreddit to become like /r/gaming? Because trust me, once you open the floodgates, there's no turning back. I've seen so many promising subreddits turn to shit, because people wanna post their maymays. Don't get me wrong, I like a joke or two, but there's /r/LeagueofMemes for that. Mods may seem like bad people, because that's what they need to be!
            Ever gotten grounded? Did you like your mom at that time? Do you think your mom liked to ground you? No, but she knows it's better in the long term. Same goes for the mods.
            [–]G-H-O-S-T [score hidden]  (2 children)
            I didn't see this "ekko from the deep" thread. Was it something from the ones you mentioned?
            [–]Kimster4Life [score hidden]  (1 child)
            Basically, there were threads speculating about Ekko's homeplace. Some guy posted a video of Nautilus' quotes, one of which is 'Echo's from the deep', which sounds like 'Ekko's from the deep'. That's all it was, low-effort content.
            [–]G-H-O-S-T [score hidden]  (1 child)
            And everyone is going up in arms about its removal...
            I wonder if they actually saw it or are just trying to stir up pointless trouble for no reason like usual.
            [–]Kimster4Life [score hidden]  (0 children)
            If there's one thing Reddit likes, it's to bash on established power. It's like politics, satisfy one side, the other side will complain. The thing is:
            If 40% want A, 30% wants B, 20% wants C, and 10% wants D, you still end up with a problem. Because mods enforce A, 60% is still unhappy, even if majority wants A. Satisfy B or C or D and you get the same, mods can't ever do it right. It's a thankless job.
            [–]Limakoko [score hidden]  (1 child)
            One of the biggest complains in the rule rework thread (which was ruined by the subbase because EVERY mod post was downvoted no matter what they said, which makes it hard to have a discussion with them seeing as their words are buried) was that the rules was too ambiguous and mods were inconsistent with what posts were deleted. Guess what? If you want consistency, that means ALL low effort threads and joke threads will be deleted. That stupid ekko of the deep post was 100% against the rules so I'm not sure why so many are upset about the mods doing their fucking job that they don't get paid for (except by Riot of course hur dur).
            Yes the mods haven't been doing everything as best they could (because obviously human beings volunteering their time have to be able to perfectly please all 700000 of us) but they did nothing wrong with deleting the thread that broke the rules, and the thread that complained about a thread breaking the rules being deleted. Don't like that specific rule? Then maybe you should voice your displeasure at the rule itself instead of moderators moderating. Maybe if the rules rework thread had actual discussion of how to improve the rules you would have a place to do so, but if they made a new thread your voice would probably be drowned out by how bad the nazi mods are.
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            [–]4everchatrestricted [score hidden]  (4 children)
            "It's time that moderators here start acting like members of the community, instead of being here for the sake of having some power to throw around."
            That would already be a thing if they apparently weren't just a bunch of upset attention seekers
            [–]Blargh9 [score hidden]  (1 child)
            They need to constantly stroke their e-peen for self-satisfaction.
            [–]4everchatrestricted [score hidden]  (0 children)
            yep
            [–]FlamingoOverlord [score hidden]  (1 child)
            Power mongers is the term I'd use to describe them currently
            [–]4everchatrestricted [score hidden]  (0 children)
            ^
            [–]puck342 [score hidden]  (5 children)
            As a moderator of a subreddit with more subscribers than this one, the total compromisation of this sub's moderators (in terms of the NDA Riot had them sign, among other actions they've taken) really, really confuses me. And makes me sad.
            First of all, how is the "insider info" that Riot gives the mods in exchange for the NDA (and whatever else it entails), not against reddit TOS? They're being materially rewarded for compromising the subreddit's integrity. Yes, Riot makes League. But that doesn't matter. FX doesn't control the r/ArcherFX subreddit. A few animators pop on and say stuff, but they aren't running the show, and as far as I know there's no NDA with FX for the mods to sign. Making a thing that a subreddit revolves around doesn't give ownership of that subreddit to that maker. I love r/CHIBears. But the McCaskey's don't own it, and we can say whatever we want about the organization on the subreddit. We are fans, not serfs.
            The only reason this community is anything is because, like every community on reddit, the users and subscribers to this community produce content, interact with it, upvote/downvote it, and have through repetition of that pattern created this community. As a moderator, one is tasked with keeping a community relatively navigable, and trying to make a pleasant experience. One is not tasked with hoarding power, taking kickbacks from a company, and compromising the experience that is only relevant because of hundreds of thousands of other people who are receiving no reward for their participation. That's not what moderating is about.
            [–]Ikimasen [score hidden]  (1 child)
            You mean marijuana didn't have you sign a non-disclosure agreement?
            [–]puck342 [score hidden]  (0 children)
            Nope! not a one. Though we have been approached by a number of companies that have offered us things for access...we always say no. Also, we had to boot a mod who was colluding with a company that made a particular vaporizer.
            [–]WoodTrophy [score hidden]  (0 children)
            I have nothing relevant to say except that is a perfect description of how a community on Reddit should be and I'd give you gold if I could.
            [–]Azphix [score hidden]  (0 children)
            Thanks for giving your opinion on the subject, the Mods also seem to believe that censoring information is cool and that we as a community of "children" shouldn't be allowed to choose for ourselves whether thats the case or not. Delusional honestly.
            [–]sarahbotts [score hidden]  (0 children)
            Higher subscribers means nothing compared to subreddit traffic or active subscribers. /r/trees, your subreddit, has about 2,000 active users on at a time. /r/leagueoflegends has 25,000-30,000 on at a time. Even defaults (which I also moderate) have less active subscribers than that.
            Riot does not run the show here, the NDA does not give material rewards nor does it let Riot dictate what we have on this subreddit. It is not against the reddit ToS as reddit admins have clarified. No one is getting paid for this. There are many other subs that have their developers or their team running the subreddit (e.g. /r/dawngate (rip), /r/paradoxplaza/, /r/crusaderkings and more), but we are not one of them.
            [–]iwin555 [score hidden]  (0 children)
            idk and i don't care about any of this but i'm upvoting because the mods r pieces of shit
            [–]ViciousFenrir [score hidden]  (1 child)
            Just want to say thanks to the mods for removing that thread. It was clearly against the rules and we don't need joke threads filling up the front page. Keep up the good work mods.
            [–]gnome1324 [score hidden]  (0 children)
            but 19 posts discussing roster changes and the pro scene can stay on the front page for days. The problem is that they seem to have a very specific definition of what can and cannot be allowed to stay on this reddit but when people ask them what that is they can't tell us.
            "It's impossible to be completely consistent and impartial." is response we're given and just expected to take that as the actual reason.
            How about we sit down and specify what this reddit should be because it seems like that is the big problem. 90% of the time its pro-scene gossip and mob mentality bitching about win rates without any actual discussion or support. But those threads can stay for days.
            [–]Dovakeeeeeen [score hidden]  (0 children)
            I'd rather have them remove a ton of potential shitposts than deal with that flood on the first couple pages
            [–]TheDisappointed [score hidden]  (0 children)
            Even though I don't like how they handle the sub. If you want change, stop using the sub and find an alternative. This may be a surprise, but the sub isn't a democracy and they can do whatever they want with it.
            [–]Tuharax [score hidden]  (0 children)
            They removed the drophack thread aswell for no reason.
            [–]Gamerskollektiv [score hidden]  (1 child)
            Mods delete shitpost with rioters "Oh mah gawd nazi mods wtf y u delete post?!?!"
            Mods leave shitpost with rioters up "Oh mah gawd rito shill mods suck dick harder plz"
            [–]DunkityDunk [score hidden]  (0 children)
            I'm here to DUNK!
            [–]Saituchiha [score hidden]  (0 children)
            These mods are becoming a bigger problem than the military states of america's genocide on black america.
            [–]AzzyIzzy [score hidden]  (0 children)
            Meh this hasn't really affected meaningful league information. If they were deleting the Ekko reveal, or PBE updates, or even some post interviews it might be somewhat terrible. But as it stands nothing of value has been lost.
            [–]Bigmethod [score hidden]  (0 children)
            ugh this shit again.
            [–]vereonix [score hidden]  (2 children)
            So, have any mods other than AutoModerator said anything?
            nazi mods plz
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            [–]Meanie40 [score hidden]  (0 children)
            Can someone turn this fucking piece of garbage off too?
            [–]ty_jax [score hidden]  (0 children)
            Why cant we just create a new subreddit?
            [–]Final_Hour[Noxian Miracle] (NA) [score hidden]  (0 children)
            I forget how poop this subreddit is sometimes. It's always back and forth with the mods. I don't understand how anyone can still side with them. They need to be stewards, not dictators.
            [–]Meanie40 [score hidden]  (0 children)
            The moderators either need to step down or be fired en masse, two weeks ago.
            There is no doubt in anyone's mind that their actions over this time period constitute a egocentric power trip by each and every moderator involved.
            And they're further trying to codify their dictator like behavior by crafting new rules which are not what the community wants.
            And to head off any "just create your own sub" replies: You still haven't told me how to create a sub called "LeagueOfLegends", so that I can benefit from the advantage of being named after the game that this sub enjoys. Once you tell me how to do that, I will gladly do so and leave this sub forever.
            [–]The-Prophet-Muhammad [score hidden]  (0 children)
            Don't like the MODS? Feel like you have a case? Go to /r/redditrequest and plea your case to the admins to take control of the subreddit. You better come with a case that could take down Microsoft though.
            [–]captainkaleb [score hidden]  (0 children)
            I think what you are trying to say is, mods, you can suck my big, hairy, sweaty cock.
            [–]Polybius_is_real [score hidden]  (0 children)
            I wonder what excuse the mods are fabricating this time.
            [–]MakeNoERROR [score hidden]  (0 children)
            inb4 this thread deleted as well
            [–]danimir [score hidden]  (0 children)
            The mods removed a post that was against the rules?
            Then they removed a post discussing why it was removed?
            Those dastardly mods have gone too far.
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              [–]anonym-girl [score hidden]  (2 children)
              That subreddit is just about drama regarding the /r/lol mods and RLewis fanboying.
              Even though the mods here are so "nazi", /r/lol has more content.
              Also the mods over there aren't clean either as it seems: https://i.imgur.com/kBlcliW.png
              [–]TheExter [score hidden]  (0 children)
              that's a subreddit where Riot won't comment or have any rule on
              which according to OP. this would fall under the exact opposite to what was deleted, so your comment doesn't really make sense unless you're just hating on the current mods and the already established rules
              [–]Yuvalyo [score hidden]  (1 child)
              No. This subreddit has been #1 /r/all so much, it had such epic moments and it has the only fitting name and a huge amount of subscribers. we dont want to give up this sub, we want it to become ours.
              [–]dakkr [score hidden]  (0 children)
              Lol, the subreddit belongs to its moderators. This is clearly stated in reddit rules, the mod's word is law within their subreddit (as long as they abide by sitewide rules). If tomorrow the mods here decided that this is now a sub about hello kitty online adventures and they banned anyone who mentioned league, there would be exactly jack shit you could do about it.
              [–]mindcrime_[Sirens TC] (NA) [score hidden]  (1 child)
              That place is only interested in RL, doubt they would want jokes too.
              [–]TheNarraturgist [score hidden]  (11 children)
              The problem I have is solely with the concept that "low-value content" is against the rules, aka "Mods get to claim anything is low-value content and remove it."
              The upvote/downvote system exists on reddit for a reason, and yet the mods of this subreddit seem intent on being the sole arbiters of what's allowed on the subreddit--which relegates upvotes/downvotes to becoming solely the tools of private communities who wish to manipulate the system.
              [–]38ll[Amulet] (NA) [score hidden]  (9 children)
              Yeah, but the upvote/downvote system is basically useless in determining valuable content in this subreddit.
              You might see dank memes every single day if they weren't filtered out. Actual videos and content might be downvoted into oblivion in the first hour, and will never see the light of day (eg. the vote manipulation from YT'ers).
              The downvote/upvote works in a small community, but with a subreddit this large there's no way its going to work well.
              [–]HandlesMcAvery [score hidden]  (0 children)
              The upvote/downvote system exists on reddit for a reason
              The upvote system is completely flawed. On communities with lax rules, things completely unrelated get front paged all the time. We need rules.
              [–]envory [score hidden]  (6 children)
              everyone time to go over to /r/riotfreeLoL not even kidding community is awesome and the mods aren't controlled by Riot
              [–]InFlamesWeTrust [score hidden]  (1 child)
              "omg guys the mods removed a shit post! dae moderator supremacy?"
              -this thread
              [–]RasuHS [score hidden]  (0 children)
              It's so unbelievably sad that people still bring up the rammus thread from back then. Like, 12 000 comments saying "ok" is like the DEFINITION of a low-quality shitpost, yet when mods delete it, people go apeshit because their "fun" got spoiled...
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                [–]dontwannareg [score hidden]  (3 children)
                i prefer the r/riotfreelol subreddit anyway
                [–]Zestir[Zestir] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (2 children)
                And yet here you are.
                [–]avatoxico[BattleBootyRiven] (BR) [score hidden]  (1 child)
                How come the mods deleted the thread Riot participated if Riot runs this sub?
                A CONSPIRACY BEHIND A CONSPIRACY? WHAT IS GOING ON?
                [–]Zestir[Zestir] (EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
                Lol.
                Yes. Of course, the fact a few riot employees participated in the thread, means that riot is in support of the thread.
                Brilliant logic. The sad thing is; I really do think that's how people in this thread think it went.
                [–]ConCueta [score hidden]  (0 children)
                I was so mad when I opened this subreddit the other day and saw a post saying "Here's an analogy about the different regions in LoL" and it was removed by a mod cause it used memes.
                I come to this subreddit to see the latest news in the game and the communities opinion on the news, if it's expressed through memes then all the better, memes are so popular cause they're FUNNY.
                Here's an analogy about my respect for the mods... [removed]
                [–]rageharles [score hidden]  (3 children)
                THATS IT, I'M FINALLY DONE. I'LL BE AT MY NEW SUBREDDIT /r/ligalegends IF ANYONE NEEDS ME
                [–][deleted]  (2 children)
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                  [–]rageharles [score hidden]  (1 child)
                  fair, but that sub still has active mods and rules
                  [–]dakkr [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  Oh, in that case I can recommend /r/anarchy.
                  [–]Thomasedv [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  Suggestion remove the rules that say jokes are not allowed then. I can't blame a mod for enforcing a rule, i understand if they are highly upvoted that people want it, but that rule likely came there for a reason. It's times like these we should have a proper megathread with discussion and voting for changes about the current rules. And some people complain that frontpage posts are removed, and sometimes that rule aren't enforced, but god knows how many low quality joke posts that they have removed from /new and preventing clutter. Work for a change of the rules, not complain about the ones enforcing them. (They might sometimes not enforce them, but that might be just because people liked it so well. This is a grey area, and who is to decide which is ok and which isn't? That has to be clarified in the rules, or we have to change the rules to not allow anything or everything. This is what i believe has to be discussed!)
                  [–]Ontarin01 [score hidden]  (3 children)
                  FUCKING NAZI MODS WHERE MY PITCHFORK AT
                  [–]risingtides99 [score hidden]  (5 children)
                  The mod team on this subreddit is a prime example of what happens when power gets to your head.
                  [–]SamWhite [score hidden]  (3 children)
                  They deleted a shitpost. That's why they're there in the first place.
                  [–]YouFugazi [score hidden]  (1 child)
                  Not only that but it seems the thread riotpenguin made was also taken down where he was asking if any Korean speakers could help him his korean by quieing up for some games. not sure if that was him self or it was taken down.
                  I think even riot is getting fed up with judging by his comments
                  [–]Fariswheel [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  Except where he apologizes?
                  [–]avatoxico[BattleBootyRiven] (BR) [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  OMFG RIOT RULES THIS SUB FUCK THE MODS
                  mods deletes thread that 'even Riot participated' ( even tho Riot owns the sub)
                  OMFG MODS ARE LITERALLY HITLER
                  If the mods let the thread be
                  OMFG SHITPOST FUCK THE MODS
                  Man, i don't even...
                  [–]notDarksta[Faker For Hire] (OCE) [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  FUCK YOU MODS
                  [–]rIIIflex [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  DOWN WITH THE MODS!
                  DOWN WITH THE MODS!
                  [–]TheFailSnail [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  I wonder how long this thread can escape the evil mods.
                  [–]rapunzowl 2 points3 points4 points  (10 children)
                  Tbh I've never fully understood why jokes and memes are against the rules here. :(
                  To clarify: I'm not sure why certain jokes are allowed and others are not.
                  [–]MrWiggles77 19 points20 points21 points  (4 children)
                  Its the same reason image posts aren't allowed unless they're an infographic or in a text post. If the sub allowed memes, it would quickly become primarily memes and other such posts on the front page simply because of how simple and easy those posts are, both to make and process for readers. I can fully understand why memes aren't allowed, but jokes in general? Seems a bit of a stretch to me since a lot of posts that actually get to the front page are videos that are jokes and such.
                  [–]Eselgee [score hidden]  (1 child)
                  Except all this subreddit is now is E-sports and patch notes. Everything else has been banned or moved to another subreddit.
                  Truth is I barely even check this sub anymore because of how utterly boring and repetitive the content is. Oh look, team A beat team B again. Yay! -_-
                  [–]jaykenton(EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  Yeah this non-existent mechanic called "Reddit algorithm".
                  [–]DDRDiesel[DDRDiesel] (NA) [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  I agree with the image post sentiment. There are already a ton of League-meme-related websites, the last thing we need is for this sub to become another EloHell
                  [–]Supercharmeleon [score hidden]  (2 children)
                  Because then this sub will become like /r/gaming and we will have to create another subreddit to keep all the serious posts like /r/games.
                  [–]MrNobody- [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  Too bad there is no voting system for mods, those who are in power are going to stay there unless they break the reddit website rules and an administrator removes them.
                  [–]PM_ME_UR_SMALL_BOOBS [score hidden]  (1 child)
                  As I said the mods are a joke so they should me removed too, sadly we don't have that power
                  [–]Zeratio [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  What would be great would be that the mods post a "referendum" kind of thread.
                  The problem is the rules of this thread aren't respected very consistently and need to be explained and/or revamped by the mods AND the users, to please the majority without going overboard. Everyone should be able to express their opinions, and the community should have a right of reply.
                  [–]Butteredwalrus [score hidden]  (1 child)
                  Nazi mod.
                  [–]MinahoKazuto [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  time for another esex article
                  [–]Obsolence [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  nazimod
                  [–]Olakola [score hidden]  (2 children)
                  nazi mods
                  [–]pspwr [score hidden]  (0 children)
                  Don't worry, Dyrus's AMA which is hosted on its own subreddit and not scheduled with the offical league subreddit is still on the front page c:
                  [–][deleted]  (1 child)
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                      [–]Shayros [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      Why didn't I see someone posting something like A.M.A.B?
                      [–]Shayros [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      Why didn't I see someone posting something like A.M.A.B?
                      [–]Quint-V(EU-W) [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      ✘ Memes, jokes, or NSFW content.
                      ... I never noticed that in the side bar until now... I think the "jokes" part shouldn't be there. Memes, meh, let them be in the comments. NSFW, well duh. But jokes? Come on, what the hell.
                      [–]Perfect0 [score hidden]  (1 child)
                      I actually found "Ekko from the deep" post great, dunno it's about LoL and it makes you smile :)
                      Should only delete hatred post
                      [–]cahuelche [score hidden]  (0 children)

                      #KeepKoreanTerran

                      [–]0fficerNasty [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      INB4 thread is deleted!
                      [–]Aerobane2 [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      So leave?
                      [–]E765 [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      If it's upvoted in the League of Legends subreddit and has relevance to League of Legends in any way, shouldn't that be okay? The community should be able to decide what is okay. Moderators are for when things are not able to be settled by the community.
                      [–]LightEncryption [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      Enigma blade was the mod. He kinda sucks in my opinion
                      [–]Insomnicious [score hidden]  (1 child)
                      You all now want to post about it yet within the hour this will be forgotten and you'll continue viewing this subreddit anyways.. There's a reason a whole new subreddit was created for the same thing in protest to these shitty moderators.
                      [–]Nocuras8 [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      link?
                      [–]mariok410 [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      inb4 this thread gets removed
                      [–]Joshb77 [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      This happened to a post I made a couple months ago that reached the front page. I get that if a post has nothing to do with league then it should be removed, but if the community upvotes it and is semi related, then it should stay up imo.
                      [–]butthe4d [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      lol they removed the thread? WTF?
                      [–]Lnot_Ashadow [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      give this about 15 more minutes before the mods take it down...
                      [–]caiada [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      Jerkin jerkin jerkin, all the live long day. All aboard the mod hate karma train, we've got no brakes, no time, and no lives.
                      Inc /r/atheism-esque meltdown because babies and 'important gaming content'
                      [–]BatsArentBugs [score hidden]  (1 child)
                      Nazi Mods.
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                      [–]Landiago [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      it got removed?
                      [–]soggycookie [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      When it comes down to it, the mods should be here to serve us. If people are complaining about the moderation, there should be changes in what is allowed in the sub. If people like joke-threads, there should be joke-threads. If people like Richard Lewis, he should be allowed (as long as he conducts himself according to the rules in place).
                      The mods should be more receptive to input from the community.
                      [–]dolamrothguard [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      Honestly, I think the mods of this subreddit do a really good job.
                      Can you imagine how exhausting and difficult it must be to manage an internet forum of almost 3/4 of a million people? Seriously, we should be THANKING the mods for donating so much of their time to manage this place we all love to hang out and discuss LoL. And here we are and everyone is hating on them.
                      Oh, reddit, y u so silly. Mods are our friends, there would be no /r/leagueoflegends without our mods. :)
                      [–]DoubleDutchOven [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      I just wish your moderators would delete all of this shit so it wouldn't show up in /r/all.
                      [–]Goyu [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      Commenting to see when it gets removed. Original post content below:
                      Moderators need to understand that strong-arming the community because a post isn't strictly 110% related to LoL gameplay isn't going to build the community in a positive way or make it more receptive to what mods do. Removing something like the "Ekko from the deep thread" because it's "a joke thread" demonstrates that mod aren't actually acting in favour of the community, and removing the thread discussing and criticizing the decision demonstrates that they aren't willing to listen to reason. These actions are a classic example of why moderators aren't respected here. It's time that moderators here start acting like members of the community, instead of being here for the sake of having some power to throw around. To take from /u/Logron's post: Edit: In case a mod reads this, maybe consider what reddit admins say are good values to uphold: https://www.reddit.com/about/values/ 2 . Give people voices Create a safe space to encourage participation. Embrace diversity of viewpoints. Allow freedom of expression. Be stewards, not dictators. The community owns itself.
                      [–]Grumahr [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      JUST USE A NEW SUBREDDIT ! this guys have nothing when we are not here ...
                      [–]fluffgang [score hidden]  (0 children)
                      this is a cry for help for a new reddit order please admins/staff save us
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