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University Orientation Video for Men (youtube.com)

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[–]Ziggystarfire 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (0子コメント)

How dare a white man dressed in a suit talks on a video, that is one of my many TRIGGERS.

[–]eugonorc 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Leave the comment section now while you still have your soul.

[–]Sixty-to-Zero 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I went to a house show a while back and they had tons of zines with information and fun stuff being given out. I walked up and grabbed one of each.

One of them was "understand good consent" and I literally thought it was a joke with how it was made. It was two cartoon characters on the front fishing. I even asked if it was a real pamphlet, and the guy said "absolutely".

Now I understand that there are lots of social and health activists at house shows. But I wasn't really prepared for a "how not to rape someone" paper to be handed out and treated seriously.

I don't think it's a lack of information about sexual assault but just a lack of caring. I was very surprised, and I've heard blips and seen small things like this since then and my brother had to go to a sexual harassment seminar the other day at college basically saying this. No means no, don't rape people.

Just what the fuck.

[–]Elevate_Your_Mind 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (39子コメント)

My school made us do a sexual awareness course or we couldn't register again for classes. It had questions ranging from talking to females and bothering them to even looking at them and being a "stalker" for doing so.. A lot of this satire holds very true and I honestly think people took the cat call video in new york a little too close to heart, jesus fuck we're all adults. And for one thing, as a man who has never been complimented or deeply looked at, I envy that bitch who made it such a problem to whistle or meow at women wearing promiscuous clothing, if you're annoyed with how people act out at you, maybe its because of something you're doing too.. Like Medusa could walk by and no one would bat an eye, but show a little skin and everyone looses their minds!

[–]SpaceBasedMasonry 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Shrug. We had a course during freshman orientaiton that went over the victimization of both men and women, resources at the school, and an overview of the state's law's concerning consent. About as apolitical as you could get.

[–]Elevate_Your_Mind 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

My school didn't have a male mentioning of anything, it was literally just littered with one-sided objections to feminine issues, not that it's not important, it's just kind of sad that we as adults are having to act like children over silly issues that should be obvious.

[–]ryno235 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm 100% in support of gender equality and being aware and conscientious of the female experience.

But the rhetoric that I see employed against men is very much the same that you see employed against black people. Where blacks are assumed to be a threat, and are expected to sort "themselves" out first. I get the sense that Universities will bend over backwards to make their students feel safe (not a bad thing), and in doing so they willingly take on a rhetoric that naive young feminists like to latch onto. One that is not all that honed and a bit too steeped with misandry and hysteria.

I'm reminded of a comedy set by Patrice O'neal where he said black people would be on white people's side in relation to Obama (during the first term) if it wasn't for white people (a vocal minority) making things racial. I see it that a lot of budding feminists make it too much about dismantling the male instead of cultivating support of individualised needs of people who happen to have the female experience. An experience which also includes years of FUD and false statistics. Not that all of this doesn't go the other way, just institutions will placate bad rhetoric for the sake of a marginalized group. Which in the long run hurts that mass support needed for the movement and suppresses the rationalism that is needed to address many of the problems.

[–]Elevate_Your_Mind 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Attacking rather than defending, this makes sense when the threat of hostility is so much greater when considering the minority as but a mere percentage of the larger whole.. So true.

[–]stillclub[🍰] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (34子コメント)

" I envy that bitch who made it such a problem to whistle or meow at women wearing promiscuous clothing"

why is this person a bitch because you are so pathetically insecure?

[–]BeyondSight 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

He obviously meant it facetiously. His point is that she's making a big deal out of something so small, especially when there are much larger problems being glossed over, like the fact that men are never really encouraged and left to their own devices.

Cut the crap.

[–]Bobzer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Imagine having ugly women shouting at you from across the street and asking for your number or a date every time you walk to the shop. Then getting angry and trying to intimidate you when you ignore them.

I imagine that shit would get old.

[–]BeyondSight -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Imagine having ugly women shouting at you from across the street

So it's a system based on attractiveness. (I know, not entirely, but still questionable) and I'm pretty sure that's why the guy above called her a bitch. It's cruel.

every time you walk to the shop

See, the issue with that isn't sexism, it's harassment. People SHOULD respect each other's space.

But obviously, the sexism gets tied in because some advances are heavily laced with sexism, along with harassment.

I understand. Regardless, this is a minor issue that's actually entirely derivative. The root causes of this are much more sinister and overlooked. Which is where my complaints come in.

[–]Bobzer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The sinister cause is that men are never cat called?

[–]BeyondSight 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That men are objectified in worse ways. Your scenario is imagined in and of itself as one where the men are working on the street, construction workers and such towards a "pretty woman" that "typically" doesn't even know how to hold a power tool. Somehow in your scenario, those men deserve to be there, and deserve less for their sweat. These are all undertones that you ignore.

  • Men (in the US) have Selective Service and drafts.
  • Men receive much harsher prison sentences
  • "All Men are Rapists" mentality, to the point that men are demonized, and it goes so far as to not allow men to take their children to playgrounds.
  • Women and Children first.
  • Courts argue that children need mothers more than fathers.
  • "Suck it up and be a man" mentality. That teaches men to stick to their own devices and not trust anyone. That we're on our own and ALONE.
  • That we have an obligation to sacrifice ourselves.

Of course, I would argue that this has to deal with respect for women as well. They're often viewed as possessions to be PROTECTED and guarded, rather than viewed AS EQUALS to be put ALSO in harms way, but in order for women to expect the same respect, they need to show they deserve it by ALSO having their lives and livelihoods on the line, by facing the SAME responsibilities.

But, boiled down, at the moment, men are considered to be more replaceable and honestly, I'd rather be objectified as valuable, than objectified as a pawn to be thrown away in war or in wage slaving.

The way I see it, you want to be my equal, you need to stand up to the god damn plate.

Also, This is fed by BOTH sexes, but the culture that women are crystal figurines that if cracked or damaged that they're worth less as people is FUCKING HORSE SHIT. Everyone gets hurt in life, give them the chance to be everything in life. EVERYTHING GOD DAMN IT. This bullshit victimization needs to stop. Everyone gets knocked down to some degree. We need to share the burdens, people.

You can see I have multiple opinions on the subject.

Sure, I want equal rights, but I want EQUAL EXPECTATION EQUAL PUNISHMENTS and EQUAL OBLIGATION as well.

[–]derram_2 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You didn't even mention that men have a complete lack of reproductive rights.

Also, I find it funny you got downvoted without any form of rebuttal.

[–]untam3d123 -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Lol judging by his replies he wasn't being facetious. Sometimes the only people who make SJW's look sane are mens rights activists.

[–]Elevate_Your_Mind -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you I felt like an ogre and the pitchforks were coming out.

[–]BeyondSight 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

That remark did sound sexist though. Be careful how you approach people.

[–]Elevate_Your_Mind -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How does me being envious of another person make me insecure myself? Can I not have desires without being unconfident, does that mean I can't have a girlfriend and relationship of two years and not still be envious of a woman complaining at what I see as less than problematic?

[–]derram_2 -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because the person you're envious of is a woman, therefore other men will call you an insecure pussy and women will say you're being sexist because "you just don't understand what women go through."

[–]itwasntme19 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

"4 in 5" sure.

[–]Osego8 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

"1 in 4 or 5"

[–]Cmon_Just_The_Tip 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

5 in 4? Still a conservative estimate

[–]forzion_no_mouse 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm glad I went to college before this privilege crap. The worst we had was the tunnel of oppression which we all laughed about.

[–]ComradeNikolay -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This video is terrible.

[–]ThingstoReconsider -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Feminists have no sense of humor. If they did they wouldn't be going after satire.