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Firebug love (self.killingfloor)
herogerik が 9 時間 前 投稿
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[–]TempestWrath [スコア非表示] 9 時間 前 (25子コメント)
No...I'm waiting for SS.
[+]okungnyo スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 8 時間 前 (24子コメント)
Yeah, sorry OP, but FUCK Firebug.
Absolutely zero skill in pointing your mouse in a general direction and holding down left mouse button, blinding teammates, raging Scrakes and Fleshpounds, and hogging all the kills during waves 1~4.
EVERYTHING a Firebug can do, a Commando or a Support or heck, even a Demo (who is almost as bad as Firebug but a necessary evil due to double Fleshpounds on wave 10) can do better.
Seriously...fuck Firebug. There is no reason for it to exist. Absolutely no skill required.
[–]HeadsprouterSmeg'eadsprouter. [スコア非表示] 7 時間 前 (0子コメント)
For one thing, this is a game where the majority of the skill lies in the teamwork and how you handle situations, I don't know why low combat skill but efficient players are making you this mad, considering everybody's shooting at slow-moving, predictable targets.
Two, many firebugs don't use the flamethrower at all.
Three, most classes are a variation on "point and m1". Sure, you aim a little more, but whatever. Firebug has a shotgun, smg and revolvers. Weapons which function similarly to those of other classes.
Four, you're right, the firebug is mostly just a middle ground between all of the other classes (except berzerker), but I don't think this is a bad thing. I, for one, like being able to do a bit of everything.
[–]ChickenPuffsAnd I will pet him and I will name him George! [スコア非表示] 5 時間 前 (0子コメント)
But the fire bugs do it just that much quicker ;)
[–]LizardWafflezAKs ARs aye yall, duck. [スコア非表示] 3 時間 前 (2子コメント)
You think aiming in kf takes skill? Rofl...
[–]okungnyo [スコア非表示] 12 分 前 (1子コメント)
Umm, yes?
While certainly not at the same skill level as 360 noscoping, skill is required in KF.
Try taking down a Fleshpound with Crossbow bodyshots.
Or wait, let me guess, you're one of those people who only play on Normal or Hard, and then think you've 'beaten' the game?
Then by all means, go back to whatever troll dungeon you crawled out of.
[–]LizardWafflezAKs ARs aye yall, duck. [スコア非表示] 6 分 前 (0子コメント)
Aiming in this game is not hard, i get headshots without trying at all. I didnt play sharpshooter in kf1, is that supposed to be hard? Aiming in this game is nothing compared to games that actually need you to train your hand eye coordination to get good at, go play cs, quake, unreal, even halo, those games all require actually aiming skill. Im not saying kf doesnt take any skill, but its certainly not the same, its more about knowing what to do, in games like cs you have to know what to do and have fantastic mechanical skill.
[–]TrevyWeaponsGuy [スコア非表示] 7 時間 前 (17子コメント)
There's no reason for half of these classes to exist, but it's fun. Sharpshooter is fucking awful, all of the weapons are essentially the same shit, along with the pistols which are absolute garbage. Firebug has something besides the sun-in-a-gun, it's not a one trick pony.
[+]okungnyo スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 7 時間 前* (16子コメント)
Sharpshooter is garbage? Please. You are obviously saying that just for the sake of having a counterargument.
Aiming carefully and popping off heads is the greatest enjoyment possible in a shooter game.
Proof: the popularity of shooter games such as Call of Duty, Counter-Strike, and Battlefield dominating game sales.
You don't see entire genres built around spamming fire, do you? That's because there's nothing to learn, nothing to improve on, and nothing to feel a sense of achievement about.
As for your point about Firebug being somehow "fun", I say this:
Godmode is fun, should that be enabled by default in the game too? What about infinite ammo? What about flying?
This is a co-op game. There's a balance between what's fun and what's not fun to keep the game enjoyable for everyone.
And "Firebug has other weapons"? Oh, this argument again. What does it matter, when 99.99% of Firebugs always go for the Flamethrower because it's the easiest to use and will allow them to hoard the most kills?
There could be a Firebug Sniper Rifle, for all I care. Is it going to make one bit of difference when the vast majority of Firebugs always go for the Flamethrower instead? No, it is not.
We can argue about this all day, pal. You're not going to win.
[–]lumberjackchest [スコア非表示] 6 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I don't think I've ever seen someone get so mad over a differing opinion about classes in a game, haha. This would be like someone raging over people liking pyros in tf2 or something, holy
Sharpshooter is pretty typical and the guns had no real variety aside from the crossbow pretty much being a cannon (which was his point, he only called the PISTOLS garbage, not the perk, btw. awful seemed to be implied the lack of variety was awful). Everything else was literally just a damage upgrade, no real, functional difference.
I dunno, I never saw that many firebugs using the flamethrower after the mac10 and flamey shotgun came out. I know I never did. Both seemed objectively better and just more fun to use anyway.
[–]Vlastov_Manspunk [スコア非表示] 7 時間 前 (10子コメント)
Your entire argument can be boiled down to WEHHH STOP LIKING THINGS I DON'T LIKE! Different stokes for different folks, sunshine.
[+]okungnyo スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 7 時間 前 (9子コメント)
Nope. There are objectively valid points in my argument, which you would know if you had actually read it, instead of rushing to comment a reply after probably reading only the first word.
I challenge you to counter the points in my argument.
[–]Vlastov_Manspunk [スコア非表示] 7 時間 前 (7子コメント)
I read your post. It's a glorified self-wanking one man pissing contest. Keep patting yourself on the back, though. Someone's gotta do it.
[+]okungnyo スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 7 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Then I challenge you to counter the points in my argument.
If you are so sure that it's a "one man pissing contest", it should be easy for you.
What difficulty do you play on again?
[–]King_Pumpernickel[Steam ID: Dooby Snacks] [スコア非表示] 6 時間 前 (4子コメント)
So much for KF having a wonderful fanbase
[–]felizdenoel [スコア非表示] 6 時間 前 (2子コメント)
yeah tbh a lot of people in this thread are being a huge prick right now
[–]okungnyo [スコア非表示] 3 分 前 (0子コメント)
I've never hear anyone say that.
In fact, if you browse /r/games, you would know that KF is known for rampant kick vote abusing and trolling.
You are literally creating a nonexistent quote out of thin air to bolster your similarly nonexistent argument.
[–]Vlastov_Manspunk [スコア非表示] 5 時間 前* (0子コメント)
Every point you bring up is to be dismissed on the spot because you're comparing past personal experience on a platform as empirical data, when it is not. The firebug is not out yet, and like the other perks out: there will be mechanical changes. What they are is not known yet, not tested, and not concrete. Everything you say about the firebug-to-be is baseless conjecture. Garbage, really. Your argument is flawed from the very beginning.
[–]LightningBolt101BANG *chkchk* [スコア非表示] 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Ok, I'll take a crack at it Mr. Elitism:
What's wrong with a class being easy? A majority of them in KF1 are.
God mode, infinite ammo, flying, etc. are all cheats. Using an officially balanced perk is not.
Why are you not complaining about Support? It's the definition of point and click. You have tons of damage and penetration without all the downsides Firebug brings. Do you just hate every class except Sharpshooter? A majority of them are made for taking out trash. I'm sorry that the Firebug can effectively do what it was designed to do.
Most people flocked to the flamethrower in KF1 because 1) It was cheap, 2) It's a staple weapon of a pyro class, and 3) It effectively clears trash at decent ranges, while all the other Firebug guns can be pretty lack luster (especially the Husk cannon).
As for your CoD argument, that's possibly the weakest thing I've ever heard. It's called marketing. You should look it up.
Last but not least, you need to take a chill pill, buddy. You're the exact type of person I hope TWI doesn't listen to because "fun" doesn't seem to pick up on your radar.
[–]TrevyWeaponsGuy [スコア非表示] 5 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Aiming carefully and popping off heads is YOUR greatest enjoyment possible. I, for one, like to get in the middle of things and start massive amounts of chaos and deal a huge amount of damage, something the firebug excels at. Playing firebug and having cheats enabled are two different kinds of fun, the latter being the most asinine part of this shitfest between the two of us. You've played with some shitty firebugs if all they use is the flamethrower. I suggest you try something before you shit on it, because you don't seem to have very much experience with the class itself, as you wouldn't have made any of these comments if you did.
[–]babypunchingrampage [スコア非表示] 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Boy, you sure sound like a fun teammate.
BTW, any class can stand around and pick headshots. Your argument is that sharpshooter is better because every FPS promotes it? 10/10 argument
[–]ZeldenGM [スコア非表示] 3 時間 前 (1子コメント)
"Aiming carefully"
Dude I like sharpshooter but you could headshot from the hip with every weapon in that class with little effort
[–]okungnyo [スコア非表示] 8 分 前 (0子コメント)
You're reaching. You know I didn't mean "aiming" like "360 noscpe" aiming.
I meant "aiming" as compared to "Firebug aiming", meaning that for other classes, you at least attempt to get headshots; whereas for Firebug, there is literally no benefit to doing so and consequently Firebugs don't, which further worsens their reputation and also their skill.
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