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[–]LOT_KROTAN 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Wow, that's a lot of crazy bullshit.

[–]BrotherLogic 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I don't go on the site that much, I'm not that interested in whales and traders. The magazine, I think, is excellent - strong writers and good features. It's worth it for the Pattinson column alone.

[–]misterid[S] -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

picked one up a while back.. it was literally 85% advertisements

[–]Dixomatic 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Well, since the limit of advertising content to editorial content is 75% in order to maintain the postal rate of periodicals, I'm going to assume you mean figuratively.

[–]misterid[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

TIL

[–]southsCLT 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I think websites like BA and Ratebeer can be useful, especially when you are considering a beer that costs major dough.

However, it annoys me to no end when people come to my bar and look up the ratings of each beer before they order. There is definitely a bias effect, and generally you're not going to like a beer as much if the internet tells you it sucks, and vice versa. Decide for yourself!

[–]misterid[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

this the shelf talkers at stores are doing more harm than good to some of the product.

[–]lolomgkthxdie 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

We all know the Bros are sissys and literally run their site like the gestapo. Hell, they even use the money people donate for site maintenace on trips and other bullshit.

[–]jeanine990 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

What do you recommend in lieu of BA for non- (or less-) biased feedback on beers? I use BA extensively while in the beer aisle because although I'm not by any means new to that particular area of the store, if I'm gonna throw down $15-20 for a big bottle of a newly released or new-to-the-area beer, I want to know if it's garbage first. I understand their scoring system stinks, but I'm just not aware of any good alternatives (ratebeer seems to suffer from grade inflation).

[–]misterid[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

there's good information on beerit, talkbeer, beerpulse. you might not get the same easy to understand number score but you will get more nuanced and experienced opinions by spending time reading some of the other sites. many of which were spawned from BA purges and/or people getting sick of the site.

glancing at BA scores is deceiving. really, any similar scoring system.. not a knock on them for theirs.. they just all seem to fall victim to being influenced by what others have already said. people drink a beer, go to rate/score it and say "huh, people said this was a 92...." then score theirs similarly.

spend more time in the run-up to the shopping trip and you'll have a good idea of what's available currently.

i'm not a "buy it because i see it" guy. i'll read up on them first and see if the descriptors are even close to something i might enjoy. something like the Goose Bourbon County variants.. people are snapping those things up the nanosecond they hit shelves.. without any clue how they taste for the most part. hype on places like BA drive the demand, price and trade value.

i'll let those things pass, read about them, if it sounds good and i stumble across one later.. buy it. or trade for it. or drink if i see it out somewhere. fuck dropping $20, $40, whatever on chance, hype or a high score just to say i'd had it.

don't ever go to the grocery store hungry.. and don't ever go to the beer store thirsty.

[–]foreskinpiranha 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sounds like you need to stop dating abusive jerks :/

[–]misterid[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I CAN'T QUIT THEM

[–]danheil 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

dat girlfriend analogy though...

[–]Wierd_Carissa 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

So... I take it you got banned?

[–]misterid[S] -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

haven't been on that site in forever

[–]clayfu 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That didn't answer his q

[–]misterid[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (0子コメント)

yup, banned ages ago. asked a question about the scoring system. insta-ban. no explanation. some other people asked similar questions.. also booted.

i wasn't complaining, didn't make a big deal of it. sent a private message to one of them and that was enough to get kicked.

they couldn't even handle someone, privately, questioning a modification to the scoring system.

i'd been previously banned during THE FIRST GREAT PURGE but decided to wander back because a few people i knew had hung on .. and it was a decent resource for beer release news, etc.

but over and over and over i keep reading about member purges, ridiculous bannings, personal attacks on members.

got to be too much.

if there were two brothers in your circle that regularly threw parties every weekend, that got popular because no one else in town was throwing parties.... only every weekend they randomly assaulted some chick, spit in her face, let the air out of her tires and lock her outside in -20 degrees then threaten the friends who want to help her... well... you'd start telling your friends not to got to their parties.

there was a frat near where i lived in college. we went there every weekend for a few months. it was the only place we knew of that had parties. $2/cup.

then some of the girls we hung out with stopped wanting to go. we kept going without them. parties started to thin out, less and less people showing up until we stopped going, too.

then the girls we knew told us "we stopped going because we think they were spiking our drinks... X got cornered by one of the guys that lives there and he was trying to force himself on her, etc". story after story after story.

my roommates and i lived in the same place that next year and we watched the freshmen roll in and out of the same place.. watched the crowds winnow with time.. and heard the same stories through the wire.

moral of the story: new people don't know any better

http://www.jsonline.com/news/education/uw-milwaukee-revokes-fraternitys-charter-over-drunken-party-b99401727z1-284633091.html

[–]FBIinformant 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

That's a mighty big wall of text for a place not worth anything more of a description than "They take beer to fucking seriously, they need to drink a beer and have a sense of humor. You know what, fuck that place."

[–]misterid[S] -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

if i'm anything it's verbose

[–]ducksnbucks 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Ive found there ratings on beer to be absolute bs anyways.

[–]hopstar 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

slow clap

[–]nerdgirl2013 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

It sounds like someone is butt hurt because they got banned. I am not a die hard beer advocate fan but it is one of the sites i check for beer review scores.

[–]rrrx 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

While I find that BeerAdvocate's reviews are generally more in line with my own palate than are RateBeer's (which I find inconsistent, and is more inclined to develop obsessions with certain beers, like Speedway) or Untappd (which is just useless), he's not wrong about his criticisms. Maybe a bit, er, verbose about them, but not wrong.

The Alströms and their wives are absolutely some of the worst people I've met in craft beer, and I've been doing this a loooooong time. The meager power they have from running the most popular beer rating site went to their heads with a speed and ferocity normally reserved for small-town sheriffs and civil servants. The site actually used to have a pretty great community back maybe a decade ago -- then, slowly but surely, they banned most of their longest and most knowledgeable users for one perceived slight or another. There's really no reason to go to the site any more other than to check reviews, and with their most recent changes they're even managing to ruin that.

Not to mention, of course, that they're just terrible fucking people besides. There's a saying that craft beer is a 99% asshole-free industry. Well, they are the 1%.

[–]MFoy 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But this isn't the first time I've heard this. I've heard stories like this over and over and over and over.

I've never been on BA myself. I just go on untappd, rate my beers and move on. It's beer. It's not rocket science.

[–]misterid[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

eaaaaaaaaaaaasy, Candace.

[–]randomizinah 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Not only that but I read through beer review that people submit and I feel like someone of them clearly shouldn't be rating or posting reviews especially if its a beer that it brewed to style but they are not a fan of that style, review it and rate it low anyway. I know its just one review and hardly affects the overall score for that beer but still. I don't know maybe I'm looking too into it.

[–]misterid[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

a one-size-fits-all scoring system is always going to be difficult. kudos to them for trying it and really, it's not half bad, i don't think.

what kills me about those reviews is they are heavily moderated.

can't be too short. can't say the wrong thing. can't express an opinion that might be controversial.

then some of the reviews are just... unbelievable horse shit.

"i popped the cork on this magnificent offering from Y. i was greeted by a sumptuous bouquet of fresh cut lilac, zizzleberry from the small town of Canovanas, teakwood, balaton cherry, a dash of recently harvested coriander, lemon zest, ground peppercorn, horse blanket, smell of dew before the sun comes up after a 83 degree day when it will be 67 today, a dash of acai berry from the bowels of a civet and dapper dan pomade......"

gtfo with that

that's worthless drivel.

[–]randomizinah 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I literally laughed out loud at this. Its so true. I've read reviews like that and mouthed "wtf" after. Thanks for this. Glad I'm not the only one.

[–]misterid[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

it's so clearly made up and poorly written that it renders the beer undrinkable

lots of people will then follow on with similar descriptions. they want so badly to... fit in? i guess? that they score it the same and use the same bullshit language to review the beer, too.

you'll see myths perpetuated about beers based on a chain of reviews.. then a brewer will enter a thread where that beer is being discussed and say "none of that shit makes any sense. none of those ingredients are in the beer and it doesn't taste or smell like any of that".

which, of course, leads to a shitshow pile on of people saying things like "the recipe has changed" or "the flavor profile really changes after a couple weeks". when, in fact, none of that is remotely true. at all.

blind leading the blind into the propellers of a prop jet

[–]randomizinah 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I feel this way whenever someone tells me they passed their certified beer server and are working on getting their cicerone. I know a few people getting it, just to say they have it, which doesn't make any sense at all to me. Everybody nowadays tries to be a beer critic and I personally don't see the point. I tell my friends (that aren't into craft beer but want to explore), to try different beers, drink it and it you like it buy it again, if you don't then don't buy it again. You're spot on with the "shitshow pile" its getting a little ridiculous.

[–]misterid[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

sometimes it feels like people want to compare dicks (beer knowledge) as a means to make themselves feel better than another.

all this "i don't drink Bud because macro beer is swill" shit. get off it. it's fucking beer. yes, some of it tastes different.. some of it is cheap.. some of it isn't. but wielding ones taste buds as a cudgel and beating people over the head with it.. come on.

people judging other people for their beverage of choice. thinking they are somehow better than a guy drinking SNPA or whatever.. really?

beer people are forgetting that it's a social lubricant as much as a science and a hobby. there's too much seriousness sometimes.

[–]EvanHarper 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

welp, today is the day that /r/beer makes it to /r/bestoufoutrageculture, i guess