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[–]CavaliersJockobutters 25 ポイント26 ポイント27 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The whole "now-you-learned-your-lesson" aspect of it made it so much worse.
[–]Bullscoughdropz 65 ポイント66 ポイント67 ポイント 3 時間 前 (17子コメント)
The one after it, where the Dad beats the kid with an extension cord for wearing a Noah jersey is worse.
[–]Sunsphoenixcolt 31 ポイント32 ポイント33 ポイント 3 時間 前 (6子コメント)
didn't know Adrian Peterson was a cavs fan
[+]TimberwolvesKushedCudi スコアが基準値未満のコメント-38 ポイント-37 ポイント-36 ポイント 2 時間 前 (5子コメント)
ha.. ha... ha... you're just mad he didn't go to the cardinals where your ass would have been screaming for him all season long as he runs for another 2k..... #saltyaf
[–]Rocketschaserjames 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Or maybe he was making a joke and you're the one that looks silly for taking a strangers comments on the Internet so seriously.
[+]TimberwolvesKushedCudi スコアが基準値未満のコメント-30 ポイント-29 ポイント-28 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
which is ironic as fuck since my comment wasn't even serious hahahahah
[–]CavaliersPootieTooGood 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
or we're making fun of trash for beating his child.
[–]Sunsphoenixcolt 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
colts fan but yeah super salty
[+]TimberwolvesKushedCudi スコアが基準値未満のコメント-29 ポイント-28 ポイント-27 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
ha.. ha... ha... you're just mad he didn't go to the colts where your ass would have been screaming for him all season long as he runs for another 2k..... #saltyaf
[–]Thundervforprez2 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 3 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Or the one where Windhorst gets ran over by a Kia
[–]Wizardsbananabooks 21 ポイント22 ポイント23 ポイント 3 時間 前 (3子コメント)
lol good luck kia
[–]BullsBlackMathNerd 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
more like good job kia.
[–]prof_talc 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
TRY AND MOVE ME BRO
[–]NuggetsThatmandroid 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 41 分 前 (0子コメント)
I will always upvote an Always Sunny reference.
[–]Heatheat_forever -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The kia would just get swallowed whole along with LeBron sleeping inside.
[+]76ersPhiladelphiaFish スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
I like how everyone on Reddit is so against the video that was made as a joke and touched on domestic violence (sort of), yet the top rated comment is a joke about child abuse.
[–]Bullscoughdropz 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Because the reason that joke is funny is because I'm being sarcastic. There would be nothing funny about a kid getting beaten. I'm poking fun at the Cavs because they lack good judgement in this particular case.
[–]PistonsZombieLincoln666 -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Actually most people on Reddit are not against the video.
[–]Netsmoirakathryn 48 ポイント49 ポイント50 ポイント 3 時間 前 (16子コメント)
It's not that I'm offended. It's just that it's not in good taste really, and what makes that stand out is it's just not funny. If it was in bad taste and funny, it'd be cringe-worthy but people wouldn't be looking at it as critically. BUT it's just... dumb. Which makes the fact that it has to do with domestic violence stand out a lot more.
So please stop getting pissy at anyone who's offended. Being offended does not mean you're some tumblr feminist man hater who thinks everything is a "trigger". They're just offended at a really awful, tasteless joke.
[–]Heatyrogreg 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 34 分 前 (0子コメント)
It's also such poor production quality. I think they had the same production team as the Mozgov commercials
[–]BullsOnceAteABurgerAMA 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 5 分 前 (0子コメント)
This is how I see it. If you're going to put a topic like domestic violence in a comedy sketch, you need to have a good reason. If the sketch become incredibly more funny because you put it in, that's a pretty decent reason. But this sketch wasn't even funny. So what that tells me is that the people who produced it truly thought that the domestic violence aspect of this video was necessary because it made the video a lot funnier, which just isn't true.
Why would they think that the domestic violence part was funny? I thought of a few possibilities: They could think that domestic violence is funny (which is the worst possibility). They might just not understand humor. Or maybe they just completely misunderstood their target audience. Idk what it is, but whatever compelled them to produce this video is something that they need to fix.
[+]Cavalierslordofallshit スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 1 時間 前 (13子コメント)
listen it was just some kid trying to parody the popular UH commercial. it failed, i admit it was obviously a failed attempt but the gross offendatrons demanding a firing? come the fuck on. ask anyone, any comedian whose job it is to be funny, ask them how many jokes bomb or fail. all this constant outrage, i wish Patrice was still alive :-( , guy said it better than anyone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIuPSuYSOY
[–]BullsOnceAteABurgerAMA 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 51 分 前 (4子コメント)
He should get fired for just making that bad of a video. I don't care if he's offensive, if his job is to make good videos that get played in front of thousands of fans and he made THAT, he doesn't deserve that job.
[+]Cavalierslordofallshit スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 45 分 前 (3子コメント)
first of all sexism. how do you know it was a man who was responsible? women cant write skits? women cant be producers? second, are familiar with the creators work? have you seen every skit theyve produced? so out of 100 skits, what if 99 have been funny and this one was the single bomb? that's it then right?
[–]BullsOnceAteABurgerAMA -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 26 分 前 (2子コメント)
You literally called the writer "some kid". Last time I checked that refers to a guy 99.5% of the time. Also yes if someone had 99 good skits and one that was this bad, they could deserve to get fired. Their job is to make good videos that don't get much attention. They made a horribly unfunny video that's probably getting more attention than anything else they've ever made, and not for the right reasons.
And I seriously don't understand your point of view. You called me sexist for not knowing if it was a guy or a girl who wrote it and just casually throwing "He" in there without putting any thought into it, yet you are defending this video which features domestic violence. So you're easily offended on one issue, but have thick skin for another.
[–]Cavalierslordofallshit -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 21 分 前 (1子コメント)
im not easily offended i was just making the point of how ridiculous it is to be easily offended.
[–]BullsOnceAteABurgerAMA -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 12 分 前 (0子コメント)
Congrats, you showed how easy it is to get offended. It's not even close to the same. First of all, that's not even the only issue with this. People are bashing on this so hard because it was featuring domestic violence and it wasn't even funny. It's like if you're going to use a topic like that, you should have a good reason like it would make the skit a lot more funny. But it didn't have that so it just seems like they forced domestic violence into a video.
Secondly, using "he" in a sentence is so incredibly far away from what this video did. She was a Bulls fan, he hurt her, and she "learned her lesson" and became a Cavs fan. That's something reasonable for people to find offensive. Using the wrong pronoun because you don't know who the person specifically is is not.
[–]RaptorsKillericon 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 59 分 前 (5子コメント)
just some kid
Sorry, I thought we were talking about a billion dollar organization.
[–]Cavalierslordofallshit -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 57 分 前 (4子コメント)
who do you think is going to get fired for this? honestly. just like in the rockets situation, some young kid is going to get axed
[–]RaptorsKillericon 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 54 分 前 (3子コメント)
I was about to write a reply saying the video producer shouldn't be fired, the media person in the Cavs organization who green-lit it should be fired, but you know what? The video was incredibly shitty beyond the outrage. Video producer also deserves to get shit-canned.
[–]Cavalierslordofallshit -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 48 分 前 (2子コメント)
that's what happens when your joke bombs? you get fired? u get one shot? they were OBVIOUSLY parodying the UH commercial. listen the joke failed, sorry, their bad. thats what needs to happen now though, to satisfy the offendatrons you must sacrifice someone. like seriously think about it, what did ANYONE who was supposedly "offended" by the rockets tweet get out of that kid getting clipped? people get to sit there w the smug sense of satisfaction their outrage got someone unemployed?
[–]RaptorsKillericon 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 41 分 前 (1子コメント)
The video was poorly made and unfunny on top of being insanely tonedeaf. If I produced a final product for viewing by thousands of people that was THIS bad, I'd be fired in a minute. You bet your ass they get fired.
The comparison to the Rockets social media kid is a bad one, because that was a one person operation and the tweet was probably thought-up and written within a one-minute window. This video was scriped, worked on, filmed, edited, and approved by a professional group(Sorry, the likely reality here is that this was a contract job, and nobody actually employed by the Cavaliers was involved in making it), and NOBODY saw that it was not only offensive, but it was complete dogshit.
And like it or not, we live in the world we live in. Being in PR or corporate communications these days means you have to take this sort of thing into consideration. Missing the mark this badly doesn't just mean you made a joke in bad taste, it means you were unable to tell that it was in bad taste, which means you are shitty at your job.
[–]Cavalierslordofallshit -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 17 分 前 (0子コメント)
lol i love when someone comes w the college feminist buzz words like "tone deaf". so how many people are shitty at their job? how many people need to get fired because of that skit? what will satisfy your feels? you had writers, actors, camera people, producer and maybe a project manager? how many folks should they sacrifice on the alter? how can they make it ok for you? the rockets only had to fire one guy. this seems more offensive though.. what needs to be done for you to stop feeling offended?
[–]Warriorsbobalou27 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 50 分 前 (1子コメント)
Dude, how many times are you gonna post this video?
[–]Cavalierslordofallshit -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 48 分 前 (0子コメント)
twice ;-)
[–]CavaliersEastGOAT 29 ポイント30 ポイント31 ポイント 3 時間 前 (3子コメント)
The video doesn't bother me. The fact that the Cavs organization is stupid enough to play it bothers me.
[–]Spurspete_is_writing23 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
This. It's not only that the sketch is not funny, poorly done and stupid, it's that the Cavs executives thought it was fine to show, especially after all the Ray Rice stuff. So, so stupid.
[–]taajtheturtle 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 32 分 前 (0子コメント)
Has less to do with domestic violence than the fact that the video was just all around awful. Lighting, acting, script, everything terrible. Even if the guy had just like, let her fall or something other than literally toss her to the ground, it would be terrible.
[–]Cavalierslordofallshit -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 42 分 前 (0子コメント)
ray rice played basketball?
[–]Celticsuncrescentfresh 29 ポイント30 ポイント31 ポイント 3 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Amazing that nobody realized how inappropriate this was. Not even like it was funny either, just awful on every level.
[–]NBA_try_another__ 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 20 分 前 (3子コメント)
Here is the video for those that haven't seen it
[–]HawksKickedInTheDonuts 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 6 分 前 (1子コメント)
I feel like if the girl would have swung the guy nobody would be talking about this. This doesn't bother me that much.
[–]NBA_try_another__ 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 分 前 (0子コメント)
The most offensive part of this video was the shit production value. Pretty sure they just aired someone's high school project.
[–]Bullslebrenpls 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント たった今 (0子コメント)
Oh my god, that was one of the cringiest things I've ever watched.
[–]CrabCakeSmoothie 47 ポイント48 ポイント49 ポイント 3 時間 前 (22子コメント)
They should catch heat. That video is way worse than the Rocket's tweet.
[–]CavaliersMrstea1urgirl 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
What did they tweet?
[–]Rocketsjsting 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 49 分 前 (0子コメント)
The horse-gun emoji. and the tweet, Shhhh. Just close your eyes, it will all be over soon.
This was a few minutes before the end of that playoff series, and I think most people thought it was hilarious. Not the best taste, but really funny.
[–]Mavericksavericks 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 56 分 前 (0子コメント)
"Suck my red rocket" after they beat the Dallas Mavs
[–]Cavalierslordofallshit -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
anytime the offendatrons start crying about a joke gone bad, this video should be played https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjIuPSuYSOY RIP Patrice
[–]CavaliersShadow_Boxer 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 51 分 前 (1子コメント)
Your downvotes are sickening. RIP Patrice indeed. Legendary truth-teller.
[–]Supersonicssexpudding 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 22 分 前 (0子コメント)
When people become outraged over something, it generally is a second hand source telling them to be outraged, just like Patrice was trying to argue in the video. Another example would be your comment because I'm outraged ANYONE would downvote a Patrice O'Neal rant.
[+]CavaliersChemLok スコアが基準値未満のコメント-34 ポイント-33 ポイント-32 ポイント 3 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Wrong, NEITHER should catch heat
[–]CrabCakeSmoothie 20 ポイント21 ポイント22 ポイント 3 時間 前 (5子コメント)
I mean I don't think anyone should get fired over this, but mild suggestion that domestic violence is okay was kind of in poor taste.
[–]ThunderTheCoxer 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 2 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Mild? Nah, Tostitos's salsa is mild. That commerical was anything but mild.
[+]Mavericksmisbrichi スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 2 時間 前 (3子コメント)
jesus it was a spoof of the scene in dirty dancing but instead of catching her like in the movie he throws her when he realizes she's a bulls fan. it's maybe the most mild thing i've ever seen
[–]ThunderTheCoxer 7 ポイント8 ポイント9 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
There are better ways to say Fuck the bulls than a badly done spoof of Dirty Dancing which involves throwing a woman across the room.
[–]CelticsTheGameDoneChanged 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
jesus it was a spoof of the scene in dirty dancing
i love how everyone keeps defending it like this, as if they had no choice but to spoof that dirty dancing seen. spoof something that doesnt result in throwing a woman to the ground, easy solution. I dont think it's super offensive but definitely boneheaded and tone deaf.
[–]San Diego Rocketsyangar 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Most times the spoof involves the guy failing to catch her, thus also getting hurt.
This is just "hey let's chuck her, that'll show her" then "she's a fan now."
What?
The Bruins 'Don't Date in the Division" ads were always the best done for the "she's not a ___ fan" style
[+]PistonsZombieLincoln666 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント 2 時間 前 (7子コメント)
This one isn't nearly as creepy
[–]RocketsCastle_Douglas 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 2 時間 前 (6子コメント)
How was it creepy? I've seen "creepy" used to describe it a ton of times but I don't understand how putting down a horse is "creepy".
[–]PistonsZombieLincoln666 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
"Shh it will all be over soon" with an emoji gun pointed at a horse's head is weird and creepy.
[–]Heatbrianfantana32 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (3子コメント)
People thought it had a rapey vibe.
[–]RocketsCastle_Douglas 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
I guess I understand that's why people were saying it was creepy. Seems like such a reach to say it has anything to do with rape though. It just feels like people are really trying to make it fit their own narrative at that point.
[–]OccupyGravelpit 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
People who follow an NBA team's official twitter probably aren't looking for edgy humor. Grandpa just wants his phone to show him some stats and some schedule updates, not some millennial making some vaguely rapey/torturey/murdery jokes with emoji.
It was just a classic case of someone not understanding their audience.
When you are in charge of a billion dollar organization, then feel free to have trashy PR.
[–]CelticsTheGameDoneChanged 12 ポイント13 ポイント14 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
i'm more offended by how stunningly unfunny the video was. somebody got paid to make this garbage
[–]CelticsImaDunkOnYou 23 ポイント24 ポイント25 ポイント 3 時間 前 (17子コメント)
Yeah it's pretty inappropriate to show a video that parodies domestic violence especially when so much domestic violence is caused by athletes across ALL SPORTS, including the NBA.
Plus you have the league as a whole trying to take a stand against domestic violence, and this gets showed? C'mon, whoever thought this was a good idea to air this simply wasn't thinking.
[+]San Diego Clippershsmith711 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 3 時間 前 (16子コメント)
It's funny that this is the most common reaction considering we just had 20+ threads and thousands of comments complaining about people being "too soft" when the rockets twitter guy was canned.
[–][MIA] Antoine WalkerHEATerade 11 ポイント12 ポイント13 ポイント 2 時間 前 (5子コメント)
I don't appreciate that you are trying to compare this video to the Rockets' tweet and the public reaction to it.
[+]Cavaliersgatorsbucks スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 2 時間 前 (3子コメント)
They were both instances of a team joking about something that many people think is inappropriate to joke about. They aren't comparable?
[–]Celticsgfygfygfy 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
No, not from my point of view. There's a difference between text/caught up in the moment and writing a script for a parody video (where they completely miss the point why it's funny), editing it so that it's polished for viewing, and not one person saying "You know, maybe this should be tweaked..." The concept would be less cringe worthy if he dodged her jump instead of purposely slamming her down and then showing her in pain from the fall. Hell, even asking her to leave and panning to him with a new girlfriend is much smarter than showing a girl saying that she's "all in" now with an ice pack to the head. If the Rockets took that emoji and put it into a scripted video to be aired during a game, I'd wonder what the hell was wrong with them.
[–]Cavaliersgatorsbucks 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
They can be comparable without being equal. Like if you compare them and decide the Cavs video is worse because it was more planned out, that's fine. But they're not so fundamentally different that it's offensive to even compare them, which was my point.
[–]Celticsgfygfygfy -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Sure, if you don't want to apply societal context with the scenarios, but we don't live in a country where there's no harsh reality behind that Cleveland joke. Recall the major stories that have been coming out within the past year related to domestic abuse, with both women and men being the abusers. There's more controversy behind that than there is behind a horse being put down.
[–][SAS] Kawhi Leonardjimalloneword 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 2 時間 前 (9子コメント)
yeah, if you're comparing a commercial implying domestic violence to emojis implying mascot violence, then I think you're missing the point.
Athletes aren't known for shooting horses and the league isn't trying to take a stand on horse-shootings.
[+]San Diego Clippershsmith711 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 2 時間 前 (8子コメント)
I'm comparing intent.. But I'm sure it's easier for you to just assume what my perspective is and just respond based on your assumption than asking me to elaborate. Standard reddit comment thread.
[–]PelicansCecilBDeMillionaire 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (7子コメント)
Your point was poorly articulated and he was responding in a sensible way to an absurd statement. This isn't "standard reddit comment thread," this is you not arguing your point well and then getting pissy when someone responds
[–]San Diego Clippershsmith711 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Whatever you need to tell yourself. Redditors are really good at deciding/assuming what someone means and responding to that. For every person that had ever asked me to elaborate on a point, 200+ have made a false assumption and replied based on that false assumption. I don't need you to agree with me to know that is true.
[–]PelicansCecilBDeMillionaire 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (5子コメント)
These aren't false assumptions, stop trying to remove culpability from yourself. Don't get mad when people interpret your words at face value, we can't be expected to read your mind. If you have a point to articulate, articulate it. Don't just mumble something incoherent then bitch when you're misunderstood
[–]San Diego Clippershsmith711 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (4子コメント)
If you can't read the words on the screen, I can't help you. You are welcome to believe whatever inaccurate bullshit you need to. It has no effect on me. The comment I claimed made false assumptions is still there. Anyone that wants to read it can. If you can't comprehend it, that's your problem.
The majority reaction in this thread is hypocritical and a gross overreaction in my opinion. You nor anyone else had directly offered a rational rebuttal to that opinion.
[–]PelicansCecilBDeMillionaire -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (3子コメント)
You later claimed you were comparing intent, but you never did that, and I don't even know whose intent you're referring to. People are more upset by this than the Rockets tweet because this is making light of a far more serious topic and the victim is the butt of the joke. That's why there's a difference, and that's obvious to everybody except for you apparently. So when you compare the two, you're establishing a false equivalency. Somebody pointed that out and then you immediately claimed you were being misunderstood. This isn't a gross overreaction because domestic violence is an extremely serious topic and one that shouldn't be joked about. That's my rational rebuttal. Euthanasia of horses is sad, yes, but it's not an epidemic, nor does it have any human victims, victims that might be sitting in the stands watching that piece of shit video. That's why these aren't comparable. How do you not see this?
[–]San Diego Clippershsmith711 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 52 分 前 (1子コメント)
I don't even know whose intent you are referring to
Thank you for proving my point. Rather than ask, just assume ignorant shit.
Lol.. You couldn't be more predictable if you tried. You completely verified my point and are too oblivious to even realize it. Hilarious.
[–]BullsBlackMathNerd 13 ポイント14 ポイント15 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It's not bad, but just in poor taste really for the climate the sports world is in with regards to domestic violence.
[–]New Orleans Hornetsgaotrang 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
... Whoever gave this a thumbs up should be fired. Domestic violence is one of those things you can't joke about especially after all the shit that has happened with the NFL lately.
[–]CavaliersGREENCHECKavailable 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Apparently they were trying to parody this video. Just stupid, even without hindsight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9YiTIYO-2A
[–]Charlotte HornetsNotProductive 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (3子コメント)
Oversensitivity is a problem in this country
[–]RaptorsKillericon 9 ポイント10 ポイント11 ポイント 58 分 前 (0子コメント)
I feel like over-sensitivity to over-sensitivity is also on the rise.
[–]Supersonicsitsme101 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 25 分 前 (0子コメント)
Eh, I really don't think this is an example of oversensitivity; it's more holding an organization accountable for a piss-poor decision. The vast majority of people upset with the video don't think that it actually promotes domestic violence, they're just looking for accountability for a lack of oversight from a PR department that produced a video in shockingly bad taste.
[–]Cavalierslordofallshit -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 43 分 前 (0子コメント)
winner winner chicken dinner
[–]HeatMG87 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 39 分 前 (0子コメント)
You stay classless Cleveland.
[–]Cavalierscorysagaming 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
If they woulda ended the scene at him dropping her it wouldnt have been a big deal.
Having a woman writhing in pain then sitting with an ice pack on her head isnt a good look. just a little too far imo
specially when his "abuse" leads to her doing what he wants.
[–]Rocketsjsting 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 51 分 前 (1子コメント)
They took down the video! Does someone know where I can find it?
[–]NBA_try_another__ 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 21 分 前 (0子コメント)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGHAxbSEBZs
[–]Cavaliersthreecatsdancing 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 48 分 前 (0子コメント)
Pretty stupid video, and dumb decision. Lesson learned, and they will take appropriate flak for it.
[–]Lakersprojectionist88 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 21 分 前 (0子コメント)
Nothing as ugly as an inferiority complex.
[–]Cavaliersdogthatbrokethezebra 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Come on, Cavs! Get your shit together.
[–]76ersmarksills 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
was the video on here deleted? i swear i saw it on here and its not anymore
[–]HornetsJezuzFingerz 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah it must have got deleted for some reason.
http://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3569hw/the_cavs_are_tone_deaf_to_domestic_abuse/
There's the original thread.
Edit: If I had to guess, it would be for breaking rule #6
Misleading/sensationalized/ambiguous titles. - If a title doesn't specifically express what will be inside the self post/article/video/etc, it will be removed.
[+]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25 ポイント-24 ポイント-23 ポイント 3 時間 前* (59子コメント)
Disappointed in /r/nba. I didn't expect so many professional victims jumping at the chance to be offended. The video was supposed to be silly. The "violence" was slapstick. This is some "Rated E for Everyone" cartoon violence. To say it's some deep, dark propaganda promoting domestic abuse is just absurd. It wasn't gut-busting hilarious, but I didn't get that vibe at all from the video.
EDIT: I just want to point out, this video was first shown to me by a group of women at work, and they thought it was hilarious. It wasn't until I logged on here that I saw everyone else making a stink about it.
[–]CavaliersTSR3K 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Nah man pick your battles. This definitely should not have made it to the jumbotron.
[–][PHX] Brandon KnightEvan5050 27 ポイント28 ポイント29 ポイント 3 時間 前 (17子コメント)
"I just want to point out, this video was first shown to me by a group of women at work, and they thought it was hilarious."
Your best friends are black too right, so racist jokes are ok?
[+]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント 2 時間 前* (16子コメント)
Missed the point completely but nice try
EDIT: I'm not saying "I'm friends with women so jokes at the expense of women is okay". I'm saying, if you're operating under the assumption that this video promotes abuse against women, then women should be upset. But women are not upset. Based on /r/nba demographics, 16-30 year old white men are upset on behalf of women. So far all I've seen are random guys jumping at the chance for easy karma to say "THIS IS DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND OFFENSIVE!" because that's the hot topic right now.
[–][PHX] Brandon KnightEvan5050 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 2 時間 前 (3子コメント)
You mean the 4-5 women you talked to aren't upset...Good job generalizing
[+]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25 ポイント-24 ポイント-23 ポイント 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
I haven't seen any women on /r/nba upset either, so apparently my generalization is accurate.
[–][PHX] Brandon KnightEvan5050 14 ポイント15 ポイント16 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
[–]Warriorslenniwinks -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
^ This times 100.
[–]CelticsImaDunkOnYou 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 2 時間 前 (10子コメント)
Well the women I have showed this too, including my girlfriend, found this incredibly offensive. So I guess that nullifies your point.
[+]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント 2 時間 前 (9子コメント)
Fair enough if they're offended, but I haven't seen any outcry from any women. All the comments and fuss thrown up have been from guys just looking to complain about something and cash in on the soup du jour.
[–]Heatbrianfantana32 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (8子コメント)
How the fuck do you know if everyone who's commenting is a dude?
[+]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-10 ポイント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント 1 時間 前 (7子コメント)
According to the results of the most recent demographics survey, only 2.2% of /r/nba is female. That means there's a 97.8% chance that every response is from a male user. It would also seem likely that if there were a female response, they would identify as so, in order to provide clarity and context for their opinion and stance. Otherwise, statistically, it's 98% safe to assume it is a man.
That's how the fuck I know.
[–]PelicansCecilBDeMillionaire 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (3子コメント)
No, that's how the fuck you assume. A) the playoffs has a huge influx of new users. B) this is the kind of story that might prompt more women to comment. C) many women might be afraid of identifying as such (and they don't have to for their point to be valid) because oftentimes the atmosphere on reddit is hostile towards women voicing their opinions on matters such as these.
Like many people have commented, I showed it to some women I know and they were offended. Just because you haven't looked hard enough doesn't mean they don't exist. And am I not allowed to be upset at domestic violence just because I'm a man?
[+]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
cool
[–]PelicansCecilBDeMillionaire 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
You're being absurdly immature and not listening to anybody here. If you want to have a productive discussion you should mature and learn how to voice your arguments without resorting to fallacious thought because you're upset that your organization is under fire.
[–]Heatbrianfantana32 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
How do you know the 2.2% weren't the ones commenting?
[–]San Diego Rocketsyangar -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
He doesn't.
[–]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Again, in a discussion relating to gender, you would imagine someone would state theirs if it differed from the overwhelming majority.
[–]Bullscoughdropz 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 3 時間 前 (20子コメント)
If I were to deliberately make a video to offend domestic violence activists, it would pretty much be that exact video. I mean, the woman has an opinion, body slam, pain, woman submits.
I mean, I wasn't personally offended, but I am a little taken aback that the Cavs organization thought this was a good idea. It's not funny, domestic abuse issues aside, why put yourself in this position?
[+]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16 ポイント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント 3 時間 前 (19子コメント)
It seems they really wanted to spoof the Dirty Dancing thing. So it had to be a woman. I suppose they could've had a gay couple, but then you're opening yourself up to a whole other host of victims. So it had to be a woman to parody the Dirty Dancing move.
I guess we can just stop letting women be in films, television, and viral videos. I mean, we don't want to offend anyone with parody and slapstick humor, so it's best if we just leave females out of the industry entirely. Don't want to offend anyone if the script calls for two characters to disagree with eachother or something crazy like that.
[–]BullsJadings 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Are you really so dense that you can't wrap your head around the reason why this was a terrible decision? Lol.
[–]Bullscoughdropz -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (13子コメント)
You're missing the point. The Cavs are not a comedy club. it is in their best interest to appeal to the broadest audience possible. This commercial doesn't achieve that. The goal of these skits is a quick laugh and to try and make the event more entertaining. The LAST thing you want to do is offend a group of people. Again, am I personally offended? No.
This isn't Tosh.0, you don't go into a Cavs game with the expectation of being offended. As a customer a ticket purchaser, don't you have the right to say, "I don't lke the way this skit portrays women."? I think you do.
I don't think the Cavs organization is anti-women, but I think whoever was in charge of letting this be broadcast is really short-sighted if they didn't expect some backlash. It's cringe-worthy how heavy handed and poorly thought out the skit was.
Saying, "I guess women can't be in films ect." is silly, if the Cavs made a skit where a black guy was called "boy" and beaten up by a Cleveland Police officer for wearing a Bulls shirt, would you say, "I guess black people can't be in films."
The woman appears to be "lesser" than the man, he solves the situation with violence, and the woman all but says, "It was my fault for wearing the Bulls jersey" which is a little too close to, "It was my fault, I made him hit me"
I get that you're defending your organization, and that's fine, but they fucked up. Everyone makes mistakes, and I'm sure they just didn't consider about how the skit would be perceived.
[–]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 2 時間 前 (3子コメント)
To show police beating a black man is way, way, way darker and further than this video went with throwing her off-screen. Like, not even on the same level.
I just think you're looking too hard at the video. I can draw conclusions from just about anything if I reach as far as you are.
[–]Bullscoughdropz 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Of course it is. It was an example to try and give you some perspective. I'm trying to convey that you shouldn't turn a person's nightmare into a comedy skit and expect no one to be offended. If you were a domestic abuse survivor you might feel differently.
[+]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
My nightmare is reddit comments by people using the screenname "coughdropz". I'm deeply offended, I think you should be banned and issue me an official apology for acting on something that triggers me.
Idk man. Something will always offend someone. I'm not saying everyone should find it hilarious. I guess someone who's been thrown across a room by their SO for wearing a Bulls shirt might find the video distasteful. Just didn't expect to see such a stink made online about it. It seems so minor in the grand scheme of things, I mean, there are bigger fish to fry in the whole domestic abuse arena. Witch hunt against the Cavs for a slapstick parody video seems like it should be last on the priority list.
[–]Bullscoughdropz 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It is minor. It will be forgotten in a week like most stuff we discuss here. I am sorry for being your nightmare. I am pretty scary.
[–]CavaliersWookie_Goldberg -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (8子コメント)
Don't you think you're taking this a little far?
[–]Bullscoughdropz 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (7子コメント)
I mean. I'm bored at work answering people who respond to me. Not holding a sign in the street. I just think it's an interesting topic. The people getting upset may be though. Dunno.
[–]CavaliersWookie_Goldberg -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (6子コメント)
if the Cavs made a skit where a black guy was called "boy" and beaten up by a Cleveland Police officer for wearing a Bulls shirt, would you say, "I guess black people can't be in films." The woman appears to be "lesser" than the man, he solves the situation with violence, and the woman all but says, "It was my fault for wearing the Bulls jersey" which is a little too close to, "It was my fault, I made him hit me"
if the Cavs made a skit where a black guy was called "boy" and beaten up by a Cleveland Police officer for wearing a Bulls shirt, would you say, "I guess black people can't be in films."
That is what I think you take too far. You have a fair argument until these points, which is approaching tumblr arguments.
[–]Bullscoughdropz 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I was just trying to change the perspective from man versus woman to something else. I agree, my example was much "worse" but I was trying to extend my argument to it's logical conclusion.
[–]PelicansCecilBDeMillionaire 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (4子コメント)
How is it approaching tumblr arguments? He's making an analogy to show that the first guy's argument is stupid. And then pointing out that the video has eerie similarities to a lot of actual domestic violence cases and the way they're portrayed.
[–]CavaliersWookie_Goldberg -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (3子コメント)
He equated this stupid video with hardcore police racism. I shouldn't have to explain this. It's a bad and stretched analogy.
[–]PelicansCecilBDeMillionaire 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 時間 前 (2子コメント)
And the first guy said that if people are offended by this that we shouldn't have women in any kind of media. He's showing how absurd that statement is. This is a video of a women being abused by her partner. It's not hard to see an equivalency.
[–][CHI] Jimmy Butlerjacob2815 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 3 時間 前 (3子コメント)
It's not the violence itself that so many people find appalling, it's the character's reasoning for hurting the woman.
[–]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
If someone truly believes this video is seriously advocating throwing people across a room for liking another team, then they're probably not smart enough to operate a vehicle to get to the Q to see the video on the jumbotron.
[–][CHI] Jimmy Butlerjacob2815 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Just playing devils advocate here
[–]BullsEvrae_Altana -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I'm behind you on this one. The video sucked but people need to be chill.
[–]CelticsTheGameDoneChanged 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I just want to point out, this video was first shown to me by a group of women at work, and they thought it was hilarious.
see now i just dont believe you. because, any offensive stuff aside, no way anyone found this video funny.
[–][HOU] Donatas MotiejūnasArcticFunk 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
If this freaking tweet "🐴🔫" will offend people, then everything will.
[–]Celticsim_so_meta 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 49 分 前 (0子コメント)
I agree. It definitely wasn't funny and it has terrible production value, but that's not the point. It's just a silly video about sports rivalries and people deliberately view it through a sensitivity lens to see if it in any way offends a social group.
[–]NetsD_J_Ileum 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 時間 前 (6子コメント)
I'm one of the 4%(?) of /r/nba subscribers who is a woman. Yes, it's offensive and not funny.
[–]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (3子コメント)
Thanks for posting, this is the first genuine female post I've seen about the subject.
I hope you can recover and move on from this tragic experience. You can reach the Veteran's PTSD Support Line at 1-800-273-8255. I think it's only for military veterans but if you let them know that you saw this video, they'll probably make an exception. Best of luck and I hope you have enough fluffy tissues to make it through the day.
[–]NetsD_J_Ileum 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 分 前 (0子コメント)
Was just letting you know that not all females think it's funny.
[–]Netsmoirakathryn -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (1子コメント)
And with this comment, you went from being just wrong to an asshole about it. Bravo.
[–]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Happy to deliver
[–]Bullscoughdropz -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 53 分 前 (1子コメント)
I just want to say that on behalf of the Chicago Bulls organization: We appreciate and respect you, and ALL women as hard as we can. Our Jumbo-tron videos ALWAYS show domestic violence in a negative light. That's the Chicago Bulls Promise.
[–]NetsD_J_Ileum 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 分 前 (0子コメント)
Haha, good to know! 👍
[–]CelticsImaDunkOnYou -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 3 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Lol ur gonna be disappointed in a collective group of people because some of them found it offensive/ in poor taste?
Fuck you for thinking that you get decide what is and what isn't ok to be offended at, especially something as serious as domestic violence.
[–]CavaliersOverEmotionalCavsFan -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
I am disappointed because there are plenty of other things that promote domestic violence and other issues that should be taking priority. Not a Dirty Dancing parody video for the Cleveland Cavaliers. It's disappointing that people will scrutinize something so harmless and scour every inch of it just to find something to get offended about.
Domestic violence is a serious issue, but this is as much about domestic violence as Tom & Jerry is about animal abuse.
[–]San Diego Clippershsmith711 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The hive has spoken. Your rational thinking is not welcome here.
[+]San Diego Clippershsmith711 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
There is only one type of acceptable reaction on the internet and social media -- overreaction.
Moderate viewpoints don't get attention. The entire purpose of social media is to get attention. Users have been conditioned to overreact to everything because it gets the most attention.
[+]CavaliersWookie_Goldberg スコアが基準値未満のコメント-12 ポイント-11 ポイント-10 ポイント 3 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Social justice warriors are the worst. Lighten up Francis.
[–]HeatMG87 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 39 分 前 (3子コメント)
Sorry to hear about that 2 inch penis.
[–]CavaliersWookie_Goldberg -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 36 分 前 (2子コメント)
Good one. You have a yo momma joke next?
[–]HeatMG87 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 31 分 前 (1子コメント)
Yo momma realized she should have gotten her kid aborted when her son would wind up with a 2 inch penis.
[–]CavaliersWookie_Goldberg 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 27 分 前 (0子コメント)
http://www.reddit.com/r/teenagers
[–]WarriorsMeaMeaJay -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Their fans are probably used to catching the Heat anyway
[–]Bullscoughdropz -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
I just don't understand why the Cavaliers organization hates women. Why?
[+]Trail BlazersChuddington スコアが基準値未満のコメント-21 ポイント-20 ポイント-19 ポイント 3 時間 前 (3子コメント)
The Cavs should have pulled the plug out of the socket faster than Olynyk pulled Love's shoulder out. Too soon?
[–]CavaliersWookie_Goldberg 19 ポイント20 ポイント21 ポイント 3 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Too soon and too forced.
[–][TOR] Aaron Graybandwagoner 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The long-anticipated sequel to "The Soon and the Forced".
[+]Trail BlazersChuddington スコアが基準値未満のコメント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント-4 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah, i did shoe horn it in there.
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