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Why Yes Can Mean No

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Inspired by the recent performance of The Vagina Monologues at CMC, this piece is part of a series of  Forum articles by women at CMC about women and sexuality. Check out the first piece in the series here. If you’re interested in contributing an article on these topics, contact us at thecmcforum@gmail.com.

 
It started with “consent is sexy.” But, of course, there was no point in that—it was like saying rape is just bad sex, instead of a felony. Then there was “consent is mandatory.” It was much better, reminding us that sex is consensual, and everything else is rape. But then there was me, after a party, in a man’s dorm room. And there was “is this ok?” If we are being legal about this, I said ‘yes’—no coercion, no imminent threat of violence, no inebriation (well, not a lot, anyway). But what I want to talk about is what happened before I said yes, who taught me to say yes, why I thought it was better to say yes, and why I really meant ‘no.’
The type of feminism I’m trying to talk about isn’t easy to swallow—it won’t be included in the next Vagina Monologues, and Jezebel won’t write an article about it. But, if feminism means anything to me, it means no longer being alone when I am hurt. In my conversations with fellow feminists, women of color, queer people, and other members of organizing communities, these are some of the conclusions I have come to about what happened that night when I said yes, but meant no.
Depending on who you are, it might sound ridiculous: why would anyone ever say yes when they meant no? Honesty is important to any relationship—sexual or otherwise. Besides, the legal definition of rape in the State of California states “rape is an act of sexual intercourse when a person is incapable of” . . .
Honestly, there’s a lot more to it than that for me. At five, relatives used to kiss my cheeks even as I winced and turned away. At the tender age of twelve, I was taught that my bra straps and thighs deserved detention because they distracted boys at school. At sixteen, my boyfriend assured me that most girls liked this—I just needed to relax. So at 20, in someone’s room after a party, ‘no’ was scary and unfamiliar to me. These incidents, unfortunately, are not unique to me. In discussing this experience with friends, we coined the term “raped by rape culture” to describe what it was like to say yes, coerced by the culture that had raised us and the systems of power that worked on us, and to still want ‘no.’ Sometimes, for me, there was obligation from already having gone back to someone’s room, not wanting to ruin a good friendship, loneliness, worry that no one else would ever be interested, a fear that if I did say no, they might not stop, the influence of alcohol, and an understanding that hookups are “supposed” to be fun.
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Image credit: Visionello/Flickr
For me, and many others like me, consent isn’t easy. Yes doesn’t always mean yes, and we misplaced ‘no’ several years ago. This experience isn’t random, but disproportionately affects oppressed communities. Consent is a privilege, and it was built for wealthy, heterosexual, cis, white, western, able-bodied masculinity. When society has taught some of us to take up as little space as possible, to take all attention as flattery, and to be truly grateful that anyone at all could want our bodies or love, it isn’t always our choice to say yes.
Consent as a privilege doesn’t just happen in sex. It happens for those of us who give too much in friendships without knowing how to ask for reciprocation, who let doctors touch us in ways that are triggering because we don’t want to make trouble, who dance with handsy strangers because our friends already left the party, who stick around in toxic relationships because we don’t know if we’re allowed to expect better. When you’re poor, disabled, queer, non-white, trans, or feminine, ‘no’ isn’t for you. I don’t mean to insist that every person oppressed in these systems of power can’t have empowering consensual experiences, and I know many who do. What I do mean to say is that for me, finding ‘no’ is a process, consent is elusive, and sometimes, even when people don’t mean to—they hurt me.
So if consent isn’t just sexy, quippy slogans on tank tops, or boob-shaped cupcakes, what happens next? First, we have to realize that all oppression is connected, and all rape is racist, classist, ableist, patriarchal, hetero and cissexist. We cannot make consent available to all if we are not simultaneously disrupting these structures. Next, we have to stop trying to squash the variety of experiences of coercion into one “Affirmative Consent” law. We cannot trust the state to defend consent and bodily integrity—not in Baltimore, Ferguson, Los Angeles, or Claremont. In this moment, we have to throw out legislation entirely to realize that justice for our communities wasn’t built into those systems anyway. We have to stop looking to our Title IX office for a second and take a look at ourselves. We have to stop being defensive and start apologizing for the ways that we are hurting each other.
If you are still struggling with “but she didn’t say no,” or believe that rape only happens in alleys late at night, or even that rape is the only way consent is violated, you aren’t here yet. ‘Here’ is where consent is woven into the fabric of our daily lives. ‘Here’ is where, beginning in childhood, we get to decide what happens to our bodies; it is where we actively listen to what our partners are saying—and what they are not yet able to say; it is where the ways we express gender on our bodies are never questioned; it is where bodily integrity, personal space, and emotional well-being are prioritized over property. This is not an exhaustive list, and ‘here’ is anywhere where we can imagine radical spaces of agency and self-determination for individuals and the communities they belong to.
I’m certainly not ‘here’ yet, and I can’t get ‘here’ alone. I have to negotiate finding ‘no’ for myself while also being there for other people doing the same thing, and apologizing when I replicate harm that has been done to me. If you’re trying to find ‘no,’ believe me that you aren’t alone. If you know someone trying to find ‘no,’ support them. If you didn’t allow someone else to have ‘no,’ do better. I know it’s hard; consent is really hard. But if we love each other—if we are, in fact, a community—then it is mandatory.
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  • Clancy Tripp 7 days ago
    Wow Jordan - well-written and so important. Thanks for writing this!!
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    • Victoria Montecillo 7 days ago
      This is beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing.
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      • Liat 7 days ago
        @ Jordan- this is so beautiful and so perfect
        @ The Forum- more pieces like this, please!
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          • MickeyOregon > Liat 3 days ago
            Liat, do you actually mean this? Or is this sarcasm?
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              • Andrew Vanbarner > Liat 2 days ago
                I'm sorry, but articles like this are ridiculous.
                Rape is a serious crime, one that can have severe, life changing repercussions for anyone involved.
                Consensual sex is, and one would hope you'd know this by now, obviously a very different thing, and young women, apparently, need to know the difference. Apparently you need to be taught not to falsely accuse, or at least to tell people what you want, or don't want.
                Because if you're going to do grown up things like have a sexual relationship, you yourself need to be mature enough to do so.
                Your indecision, waffling, bizarre ideologies, and very questionable premises could ruin a young man's life. The views you acquired in your safety proofed world could make an innocent person's life a living hell.
                Until you can develop a more mature worldview, please do not date anyone. Please go to an all girls' college and wait until you can figure all of these issues out for yourself.
                Until then, please dont try to impersonate an adult, while in the company of other adults.
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                • Anthony Patsy 4 days ago
                  So even though you said yes, it was still a rape? That's all kinds of crazy.
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                    • Joe McDade 3 days ago
                      There's a fella out there for you: Mongo the Mind-Reader.
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                        • Arthur Vandelay 3 days ago
                          You're gonna find somebody really special, snowflake! I just know it!
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                            • harry barry 3 days ago
                              Are you saying that ALL sex in our "rape culture" is rape? This would be a "throw-back" to fundamentalist feminism which saw ALL sex as male dominant and male rewarding. This conflicts with the more modern (although not contemporary) feminist movement towards sexual liberation and equality. It also takes power away from women who believe they can affirm sex (say yes and enjoy it) or deny sex (say no and mean it) in any and each situation as it arises. No one is saying rape is good or right. But most of us are saying that sex is a good thing when done right - with mutual respect and consideration. (And that is true regardless of any cis, racial, able or class structures you care to apply.)
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                              • justin garner 3 days ago
                                "For me, and many others like me, consent isn’t easy. Yes doesn’t always mean yes," Is it more reasonable to expect a person to say what they mean, or to expect one person to have telepathy? Consent shouldn't be this much of a mystery. Either we roll out legal contracts for all future sexual conquests, or we act like adults and stop playing this "yes can mean no" nonsense. Are we now to treat women as children who cant be trusted to make their own decisions?
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                                • Margaret Kelly 3 days ago
                                  So we throw out Title IV and other "legislation" (all of it?) and then...what? We love and listen? Sounds like a foul proof plan to prevent assault and give victims justice.
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                                    • Sean Michael Reeves 3 days ago
                                      Since this series was influenced by a recent performance of The Vagina Monologues, I figure it appropriate to cite a small Wikipedia synopsis of one of the stories featured. I can't help but be curious: would reading this qualify someone to claim that they were "raped by rape culture"? I wonder if Ms. Bosiljevac is aware of the content....
                                      "The Little Coochie Snorcher That Could", in which a woman recalls memories of traumatic sexual experiences in her childhood and a self-described "positive healing" sexual experience in her adolescent years with an older woman. This particular skit has sparked outrage, numerous controversies and criticisms due to its content, among which the most famous is the Robert Swope controversy (see below). In the original version, she is 13, but later versions changed her age to 16. It also originally included the line, "If it was rape, it was a good rape", which was removed from later versions.
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                                      • Campbell 3 days ago
                                        What happened before you said "Yes"? The modern feminism which spawned the women's-lib movement claimed it was rebelling against an oppressive male dominated culture that wanted women to remain virgins until marriage, and then barefoot and pregnant after marriage. Modern feminism has taught generations of young women (and young men) that not only do women desire sex for the same reasons as men do, but that women should "embrace" their sexuality and have casual sex with as many partners as they like, without any consequences. Not to do so would be admitting you weren't liberated and perhaps even a bit puritanical. This is why you thought it was better to say "yes." Who taught you to say yes? It wasn't some wealthy, heterosexual, cis, white, western, able-bodied boogeyman. It was the very movement you now align yourself with who "coerced" you into believing that "hookups are supposed to be fun."
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                                          • Alexandros Couclelis 3 days ago
                                            I do agree that you might be coerced from the "systems of power" but I am sorry, I cannot sympathize with your argumentation as I am struggling with this yes can mean no.. You want to be treated as an equal and you do not have what it takes / the maturity to just say no thank you? It is really quite simple: yes means yes, no means no. Why over complicate it?
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                                              • Jeff Gauch 3 days ago
                                                Jordan, child - and make no mistake, this twaddle could only come from the mind of a child - you need to go to every adult in your life, parents, teachers, mentors, etc. and demand an apology and - where applicable - a refund. They have utterly and completely failed to prepare you for the real world.
                                                "it isn’t always our choice to say yes."
                                                Allow one of my mentors to rebut:
                                                "Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything — you can’t conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him." -Robert A. Heinlein.
                                                "finding ‘no’ is a process,"
                                                One would hope that it is a rather quick one. "No" is, after all, one of the shorter words in the English language. Perhaps you need some practice. Stand in front of a mirror for an hour or so and just keep saying no to your reflection. Then, when someone asks you to do something that you don't want to do, just revert to your training and say "No." It's OK. Some people might not react too well - and once you've got simple negation under your belt you can graduate to the more complex "No, thank you" - but that's entirely on them. YOU are not responsible for anyone else's actions or feelings.
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                                                  • Michael Dennis 2 days ago
                                                    So, at what point does yes mean yes and no mean no? Most people have this figured out by the time they finish kindergarten, yet here we have a college student that still struggles with the simplest concepts.
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                                                      • Dorin Lazăr 2 days ago
                                                        Do you also do stand-up comedy? Because this is the funniest thing I read the past years! :))
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                                                          • Larissa 2 days ago
                                                            For all the men out there criticizing Jordan, how about a little common sense for you... Jordan is asking everyone to examine our society more closely, to consider that the way both men and women act is influenced by our upbringing, by what societal norms we are exposed to. She merely pointed out that our society is one that places women in a terrible position in instances like the one she described. Had she said "no" she would have instantly been labeled as a "prude" or a "tease." She is not placing blame on the guy she slept with-- nor is she blaming men for having sex or hooking up, she's merely calling attention to the internal pressures she felt that originated from the norms she has been exposed to. The pressures she felt could easily be applied to a man. Would all of you be as angry if a man wrote this? If some guy said he hooks up with lots of girls because society tells him that's what he has to do in order to be a man? I'm sure he'd be nominated for Pulitzer...
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