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Week	Reading	Winner
1	"The Death March of Feminism"	/u/Quietuus
2	"The Cultural Divide"	/u/Quietuus
3	'SWEAR TO ME'	/u/Drosslemeyer
4	'Gamergate is over!'	/u/Quietuus
5	'The Cliffs of Trooth'	/u/Xuidj1105
6	'Excerpts from the GlooperGort crowdsourced book'	/u/mehmsy
7	'What does "militarazing" gamergate mean?'	/u/GodOfBrave

/r/KotakuInAction and /r/TumblrInAction showcase the skeleton mentality, which as you can see, threatened to kill a man and drove him off Twitter over a movie." (self.BestOfOutrageCulture)

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[–]matthew_lane -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 41 分前 (1子コメント)

Whedon knows his motives, he's simply pulling the same cognitive separation between real [group affiliation] & not real [group affiliation] that all people with an invested interest in an ideology do when members get caught out doing the wrong thing in public.

You know, like how when feminists got caught out pulling fire alarms in Toronto to disrupt academic talks they were not a fan of, well those were not REAL feminists.

Or when a Christian gets caught out doing something the other believers think is not right or breaches some biblical rule, well suddenly he's not a real Christian.... You know, like the Phelp family.

Same holds true here: Whedon thinks he's telling the truth, because REAL feminists would never treat one of their own like that, so they were clearly not feminists.... Except they did treat him like that & then he closed his account because of it.

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Nah, looks to me like the notion of feminists harassing Whedon off twitter is pretty comprehensively disproved by his own testimony.

It's not since he has every reason to lie about it, the biggest being that he's a feminist & feminists love the no true scottsman fallacy when they get caught out doing something that would make themselves look like the cretins they clearly are. But lets look at the evidence shall we.

Feminists bitched and moaned in massive quantities at Whedon
GGers did not bitched and moan in massive quantities at Whedon
Whedon leaves citing that he's getting to much "noise"

Hmmmmm, I wonder if one of those things caused one of those other things.

The first comment by /u/Urdnot_Vex pointed out the hypocrisy of Gamergate having harassed Whedon previously

You've yet to demonstrate this harassment.

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Nah, looks to me like the notion of feminists harassing Whedon off twitter is pretty comprehensively disproved by his own testimony.

Feminists bitched and moaned in massive quantities at Whedon
GGers did not bitched and moan in massive quantities at Whedon
Whedon leaves citing that he's getting to much "noise"

Hmmmmm, I wonder if one of those things caused one of those other things.

The first comment by /u/Urdnot_Vex pointed out the hypocrisy of Gamergate having harassed Whedon previously

You've yet to demonstrate this harassment.

[–]deviden 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 1 時間前 (3子コメント)

It's not since he has every reason to lie about it, the biggest being that he's a feminist & feminists love the no true scottsman fallacy

So he is lying to cover the assess of people who said mean shit to him on twitter because reasons? Right, sure, and I've got a big red bridge in San Francisco that can be yours for the low, low price of reddit gold.

Feminism isn't one small club of people with uniform beliefs or a single agenda. The crazy 14yo on tumblr and someone like, say, Caitlin Moran or Simone De Beauvoir aren't of one mind. I, as a feminist, am free to denounce those who attacked Whedon as the immature assholes they are, as is Whedon. There's no secret club, there's not a code of conduct or even a single definitive version of feminism. But hey, if you're going to fall back on the appeal to fallacy you might as well fall back on one that's so inapplicable that you've created a strawman fallacy in your own argument.

But lets look at the evidence shall we

You mean, "let's repeat the assertions we already discussed". As far as I can see, there's just the opinion of you and Patton Oswalt vs Joss Whedon himself and I'm going with Joss Whedon on this one. Sorry dude, I don't buy it no matter how many times you repeat yourself.

You've yet to demonstrate this harassment.

Forgive me, this will have to wait until I get out of work as I'm wasting enough time here as it is. I'll get back to you.

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[–]matthew_lane -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 57 分前 (1子コメント)

So he is lying to cover the assess of people who said mean shit to him

No he's lying for the same reason anyone with an invested interest in an ideology lies: Because they have an invested interest in that ideology.

The crazy 14yo on tumblr and someone like, say, Caitlin Moran or Simone De Beauvoir aren't of one mind.

And yet they both subscribe to feminism & hence both are feminists.

as a feminist, am free to denounce those who attacked Whedon as the immature assholes they are, as is Whedon.

You mean THE FEMINISTS who chased Whedon off of Twitter.... Come on, you can say it: The rest of us already know it was feminists who ran him off Twitter, it's not like you finally admitting it to your self will suddenly let the rest of us in on your dirty little secret, we already know.

You mean, "let's repeat the assertions we already discussed".

No I mean evidence, you know, that thing you've yet to supply to back up your positive assertion.

As far as I can see, there's just the opinion of you and Patton Oswalt vs Joss Whedon himself and I'm going with Joss Whedon on this one.

No it's not got anything to do with opinion: It has been demonstrated that a whole ship load of feminists where attacking Whedon & then he left because he was getting "to much noise."

These are the objective facts: You can pretend they aren't for as long as you like, but they will still remain the facts.

Forgive me, this will have to wait until I get out of work as I'm wasting enough time here as it is.

Really? Because it sounds like obfuscation given that you commented on a good half dozen other comments since then. It's almost like you know there is no evidence for your claim & are looking for a way to obfuscate that fact.

[–]deviden 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 32 分前 (0子コメント)

Re: other comments - I can type and alt+tab pretty quickly. Certainly a lot quicker than trawling through social media logs will take me. A task I'm not looking forward to because it's boring as shit.

No he's lying for the same reason anyone with an invested interest in an ideology lies: Because they have an invested interest in that ideology.

Pure assertion, no evidence supplied.

that thing you've yet to supply

Oh I did supply it, in my first comment. My evidence is the interview where Whedon said you're talking bollocks. All you have to refute it is your assertion that he's lying because he's a feminist.

You mean THE FEMINISTS who chased Whedon off of Twitter

Is this your attempt at a rhetorical trap? Where if I say the assholes are feminists you get to say "gotcha! you admit the feminists ran him off!" or if I don't you play the "aha! No true scotsman fallacy!" card? Because the truth is that some feminists are assholes, some of those assholes had a go at Whedon, and Whedon rubbished the claim that he left twitter because of those assholes - this shit isn't difficult to understand.

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