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[–]hassan2397Distinguished Master Guardian 124 ポイント125 ポイント126 ポイント 5 時間 前 (68子コメント)
ptr is not salty, he knows that Ska is a good player but his teams decision to replace him was unnecessary as he alone turned mSpaz/NetcodeGuides now CLG into the team they are now, CLG before couldn't even come close to iBP or C9 and when they picked up ptr he turned that all around. Their basically trying to get Skadoodle because he is the best awper in north america not because he would fit nicely into the team, they are trying to basically stack up on talent in the team when their issues rely with their teamwork and ingame leader FNS not having the balls to command his team properly.
[+]PM_ME_YOUR_UNIDAN_Virtus.pro Fan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 3 時間 前 (6子コメント)
I said it once and I'll say it again.
Ptr had a single good game in his entire run in CLG.
[–]itaveL 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 3 時間 前 (5子コメント)
There's a lot more to a team than just fragging. The intangible ptr brought to the team is lacking in many top NA pros, and that's the ability to raise moral, regardless of the situation.
[–]HarryHayesDistinguished Master Guardian [スコア非表示] 2 時間 前* (0子コメント)
I won't disagree with you, but having an awper that's invisible 90% of the matches but keeps morale up doesn't seem worth it to me. We don't know how much of an impact ptr's personality had on the team (we'll see next high-stakes match I guess) so I really don't see what's wrong with CLG trying to get Ska, even if it wasn't the number one problem ptr was still underperforming every single match.
[+]PM_ME_YOUR_UNIDAN_Virtus.pro Fan スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16 ポイント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント 3 時間 前 (3子コメント)
I hate it when people pull the whole morale bullshit.
If a team is bad enough to be affected by things like morale they'll never succeed. This isn't a war, it's a video game. The only thing that should ever break your psychology AS A PROFESSIONAL PLAYER whose seen it allis when the other team is destroying you after you tried everything. Think as if, on mirage, you have pasha vs LGB, the guy literally goes mid every single round and frags them all, whatever the situation, he kills everyone. That's a situation where your psychology would be affected, you used up all your strats on the man and he still kills you no problem. You lost to a single person.
Semi-pro teams. Fuck, even MM teams know how to control themselves and don't let emotions make their play worse.
[–]spinmoveThe Global Elite [スコア非表示] 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah... clearly you've never participated in anything at a high level if you believe what you are saying.
[–]koed2fastLegendary Eagle 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Anyone can go on tilt?
[+]okp11 スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 5 時間 前 (32子コメント)
as he alone turned mSpaz/NetcodeGuides now CLG into the team they are now
the hell?
[–]xPekerim 15 ポイント16 ポイント17 ポイント 4 時間 前 (17子コメント)
The hell? Thats exactly what he did, after Netcode guides got PTR; they beat Ibuypower,torqued, cloud 9.
[–]BobocrunchCloud9 G2A Fan 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (9子コメント)
And then he bottom fragged every game after the AWP nerf
[–]kernevez 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Maybe, but as an european that can't watch NA games, one of the few times I've seen PTR was him nearly demolishing LDLC at Aspen.
So now and because he almost carried his team at that event, I know their full roster. I can't be the only one.
[–]BobocrunchCloud9 G2A Fan [スコア非表示] 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
That was nearly 4 months ago, pre AWP nerf. The win was also a 16-14 in a BO1
[–]kobbledLegendary Eagle Master 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
not relevant to actions before the nerf
[–]Juicy_JayceCounter Logic Gaming Fan 6 ポイント7 ポイント8 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Tried saying that before, but you know how some subs are....
[–]AwpTicTechLegendary Eagle Master 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 2 時間 前 (4子コメント)
the fact that you use the term "bottom frag" to describe someone's skills/usage in professional cs just screams "i have no idea what the fuck i'm talking about"
[–]xShrapnelSupreme Master First Class 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Shh, he has the C9 flair.
Remember, it's all about frags
[–]BobocrunchCloud9 G2A Fan [スコア非表示] 2 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Except he wasn't getting impactful kills and was dead weight with his sub par awping and mediocre at best rifling
[–]AwpTicTechLegendary Eagle Master [スコア非表示] 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
kills =/= the only impact you can make on a game
[–]BobocrunchCloud9 G2A Fan [スコア非表示] 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Then tell me in what way he was helping the team by making them buy an AWP whenever possible or else they'd have a dead weight rifler
[–]okp11 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (6子コメント)
Culter and Tarik are and were more important to CLG's success than PTR.
People are just so delusional about PTR because of the LDLC match at MLG. To suggest PTR was ever more important than Tarik is laughable.
[–]Vordus 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 3 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Fuck frags he kept that team of children motivated and in control
[–]okp11 -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 3 時間 前 (4子コメント)
Except FNS and Cutler already said that they didn't get hyped from PTR's antics...And that him "hyping up the team" was mostly for PTR himself, not the team.
[–]Vordus 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3 時間 前 (3子コメント)
They are probably mad that ptr burned the bridge when he left, well see how they do with JDM lol
[–]okp11 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 3 時間 前 (2子コメント)
Or, as it came across to me, PTR was trying way to hard to hype up his team and sometimes it was actually a nuisance.
[–]Vordus 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 2 時間 前 (1子コメント)
That will be the downfall of CLG if telling your team Let's Go! is a nuisance
[–]okp11 [スコア非表示] 2 時間 前 (0子コメント)
Yeah because that's all it was
[–]hassan2397Distinguished Master Guardian -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 4 時間 前 (13子コメント)
and? you new here?
[–]okp11 -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 4 時間 前 (12子コメント)
To say that PTR had more of a contribution to CLG's success than Tarik is a joke. Look at their stats.
But to say PTR ALONE turned NCG around is just flat out moronic.
[–]SossenLegendary Eagle 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (11子コメント)
Tarik is necessary, but without a good, versatile AWPer CLG would have been screwed. Who else is there? Skadoodle. Did they get Ska? No.
[–]okp11 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (10子コメント)
Okay, without a consistent fragger like Cutler, they would have been screwed.
Without a rifler who consistently top frags, like Tarik, they would have been screwed.
CLG became a good team because they were actually coordinating and executing well as a unit...PTR was not even remotely a stand-out player on their team.
[–]hugebigmacLegendary Eagle Master 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
from their streams it felt like ptr was pretty important calling and morale wise
[–]SossenLegendary Eagle 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (8子コメント)
As a unit? Are you kidding me?! They are just another scrimmy NA team when it comes to executions...
[–]okp11 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 3 時間 前 (7子コメント)
This is based off of what? The handful of matches you've watched of them playing EU teams?
In ESEA and CEVO this last season it was blatantly obvious that they had better execution than anyone else in the US. When C9 lost to them it was because of their execution, not their fragging ability. And C9 is really the only team that you would put in the same conversation as CLG.
[–]SossenLegendary Eagle -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (6子コメント)
"they had better execution than anyone else in the US."
Oh well, then they must be a great team! /s
[–]okp11 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (5子コメント)
Is that a joke? Who the hell said they were a great team?
Were talking about CLG's rise up to where they are today. WTF does your comment even have to do with that?
[–]Jboyd22MinecraftLegendary Eagle -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 3 時間 前 (0子コメント)
this needs to be upvoted to fuck
[+]masterful7086 スコアが基準値未満のコメント[スコア非表示] 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
So it's "unnecessary" to want to pick up a superior player? Nice logic, bud.
[+]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite スコアが基準値未満のコメント-16 ポイント-15 ポイント-14 ポイント 5 時間 前 (24子コメント)
Fanboy alert, sound the sirens...
[–]Skimer125 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 4 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Your name is CLGWalrusi...
[+]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
And his should be ptrhassan2397
[–]mrcrazy_monkeyDistinguished Master Guardian 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 4 時間 前 (8子コメント)
Considering that CLG hasn't even reviewed their demos from Katowice, it shows you how much he was right.
[+]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント 4 時間 前 (7子コメント)
He isn't on all accounts, but ptr is 100% salty as FUCK.
People in this sub literally give me brain cancer sometimes it is like you're all autistic.
[–]AssholeinSpanishMaster Guardian Elite 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
literally give me brain cancer sometimes
not sure how that happened (didn't think brain cancer was contagious, or ephemeral), but good luck with your battle.
[–]motherfalcker 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 4 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Well aren't you just a peach. :)
You have wonderfully nice things to say about ptr, would you mind telling me more?
[–]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite [スコア非表示] 36 分 前 (0子コメント)
Ever since he got cut from CLG, he sucks dick for money since he has no source of income other than his tier 69 team.
[–]OrnamentalHermitLegendary Eagle Master 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 3 時間 前 (3子コメント)
I think calling ptr salty is kind of pushing it, but straight up saying that he's, "100% salty as FUCK" is just stupid. Nowhere in this video does he say anything that warrants that. Sure, he's obviously upset, but I would be, too. He kept it pretty professional when explaining what happened, in my opinion. All he said is that he had his own opinions.
[–]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite [スコア非表示] 39 分 前 (2子コメント)
He told them that they were dead to him for considering Ska over him.
He is salty as fuck and delusional.
[–]OrnamentalHermitLegendary Eagle Master [スコア非表示] 15 分 前 (1子コメント)
He's not salty as fuck, nor delusional. There's also a difference between being, "salty as fuck and delusional" and being upset and having a different opinion. Being salty as fuck would be him leaving the team, cutting all connections, making a huge scene about it, and talking shit about them. Sure, he's voiced his opinions on their decision, and his opinion was that the change was unnecessary and he was mad at them. Ptr is obviously a very passionate type of person that obviously places an emphasis on his relationships with team members.
[–]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite [スコア非表示] 13 分 前 (0子コメント)
actually you're wrong and I'm right.
[–]DerkusMaximusMaster Guardian II -1 ポイント0 ポイント1 ポイント 4 時間 前 (12子コメント)
He's right though. I don't think ptr singlehandedly made the team what they are now, but after they picked him up, the team truly performed way better. I like to think that it's his usual cheery attitude that did it, since CLG always tilts when playing poorly.
[+]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite スコアが基準値未満のコメント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント-5 ポイント 4 時間 前 (11子コメント)
He is wrong and you just explained why.
CLG tilted even with ptr.
So no, he is just wrong.
[–]SossenLegendary Eagle 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 4 時間 前 (10子コメント)
CLG beat LDLC with ptr.
[+]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 4 時間 前 (9子コメント)
CLG also lost to basically everyone, with ptr.
I don't get what you're arguing.
ptr is the second best AWPer in NA but he is a whiney brat and wasn't the best player on CLG by any means.
[–]SossenLegendary Eagle 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 4 時間 前 (8子コメント)
You are awfully negative for someone who has CLG in their name. See my comment below to understand why it doesn't make sense to cut him.
[+]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite スコアが基準値未満のコメント-9 ポイント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント 4 時間 前 (7子コメント)
They were only going to cut him if they would get Ska, which was a good idea.
If you disagree you're autistic.
[–]uu__Counter Logic Gaming Fan 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 3 時間 前 (2子コメント)
i dont think you understand how autism works...
[–]PeterDinkleberg [スコア非表示] 1 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It's fine, it's the internet and people have their own definition for shit around here
[–]SossenLegendary Eagle 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 4 時間 前 (3子コメント)
It would have been a good idea to cut him for Ska, but cutting FNS for Semphis would have been a better idea.
[–]CLGWalrusiMaster Guardian Elite [スコア非表示] 37 分 前 (2子コメント)
Those aren't fucking exclusive.
They could have done both.
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