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Inside Amy Schumer’s Season 3 Premiere Was Great—Until It Crashed on Trans Issues

Outward
Expanding the LGBTQ Conversation
April 22 2015 11:00 AM

Amy Schumer’s Transphobia-Encouraging Misstep

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In the lead-up to Tuesday’s Season 3 premiere of Comedy Central’s Inside Amy Schumer, critics have been competing to lavish the show—which features Schumer in a winning mix of sketch, stand-up, and interview formats—with the most glowing praise. And with good reason. Schumer is one of the funniest comedians working, and her particular gift for sending-up sexist ridiculousness (from men and among women) is a joy to behold. My Slate colleague Amanda Hess identified the mechanics of this skill in her review: “Schumer’s sketches … resist the obvious target and find humor in surprise.”
Right on. So imagine my surprise when, in the premiere’s final interview segment called “Amy Goes Deep,” Schumer facilitated one of the most clumsy, contextually clueless, cringe-inducing exchanges on transgender issues I’ve ever witnessed—and this, after a period of trans emergence in the media during which someone of Schumer’s intelligence and curiosity should have learned to do better.
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Before I jump into why it was such a blunt-force mess, I have to acknowledge that Bailey Jay, the self-identified transsexual who Schumer interviewed, seemed more or less fine with the often wildly invasive lines of questioning that the host pursued. I am definitely not here to tell Jay how to present herself or how to feel regarding the intense focus on the fact that, as Schumer puts it at the beginning of the segment, “you have a cock.” The thing is, Inside Amy Schumer is a hugely popular show (and ostensibly a progressively minded one at that) and it does not take place in a vacuum. Jay may be totally comfortable with prurient queries about her genitals and sex life, but that’s exactly the kind of scrutiny that the majority of trans women are fighting against.
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The segment’s first and perhaps largest mistake was in not making clear that Bailey Jay is, among other things, a porn star rather than merely, as Schumer introduces her, a “transsexual.” That’s not to demean sex workers in any way, but only to point out that the perspective of someone who happily makes a living off the fetishization of her body probably doesn’t apply to most individuals. Presenting Jay as simply a trans person rather than a trans porn star is misleading in terms of what sort of experience the interview is trying to represent.
From that initial misstep, the segment stumbles down all the roads prominent trans voices like Laverne Cox and Janet Mock have patiently and not-so-patiently asked cisgender folks to avoid when discussing trans lives. “Did you ever think about snipping off … your penis?” Schumer asks with characteristic (and here tone-deaf) bravado, playing right into the genital fixation that is the bane of many trans people’s existence. And then, regarding Jay’s husband: “What was it like to watch him enter this situation. … I’m assuming he’d just been straight before?” To her credit, Jay quickly clarifies that her husband, being with a woman, remains straight, but Schumer has already reinforced the false connection between gender identity and sexual orientation that we all need to get past. Finally, there’s much talk of Jay’s being “gorgeous,” an interview theme that only makes sense if you are somehow working on the notion that trans people normally aren’t, and one that sets up a damaging division between those who have the resources, luck, and inclination to be conventionally attractive and “convincing” and those who don’t. Again, Jay does attempt to explain that her relatively positive life experience might be the result of an unfair beauty bias, but the interview editing and Schumer’s cavalier attitude cause any nuance to get muddled in innuendo that Joe Biden might enjoy women like Jay.
The most dispiriting thing about all this is that you get the feeling that Schumer wanted to do something good for the trans community with this segment—but unfortunately, the care and insight she typically brings to feminist issues just weren’t present here. At one point, she asks Jay “What do you think the biggest misconception is about someone who’s trans?” apparently not recognizing the painful irony that the very interview she’s conducted has trafficked in the worst of those misconceptions: that trans people are defined by their genitals and their sex lives, that their worth depends on their ability to “pass,” and that they should be comfortable discussing the most intimate aspects of their lives or risk being seen as unfunny or not cool.
Of course, you could argue that Schumer was deadpan dancing around all these pitfalls as a way of subverting them. But I am not convinced that the larger viewership is sophisticated enough on trans issues yet for that kind of subtle comedy (after this, I’m not even sure that Schumer herself is), nor do I think that this sort of segment allows for the nuance required in these discussions right now. For evidence of that, just look at the Daily Beast's Kevin Fallon, who called the exchange “the most illuminating interview with a trans woman that has ever aired on television.”* It’s true that the interview may have taught us something about Bailey Jay. But to imagine that it says anything about trans women more generally is absurd—and, worse, suggests that we are still in urgent need of reevaluating why, exactly, we want certain things “illuminated” in the first place.
*Correction, April 22, 2015: This post originally misidentified the site where Kevin Fallon's review appeared.
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Black Page 5ptsFeatured
Dude, nobody outside the community knows or understands these rules regarding trans issues. The only way everyone will start "getting it" is by talking openly and, yes, falling on our faces repeatedly. Schumer, Sawyer and Couric are not deserving of your scorn because they ask questions that their subject may or may not be comfortable with (well, maybe Couric, a little). Most importantly, as I have learned from my own relationships with trans people, there is no single rulebook for any of this at the moment. Being overly sensitive is the least productive thing you can do if your goal is advancement and progress on LGBT issues. 
JB
JB 5ptsFeatured
I have a seriously difficult time discussing transgender issues in a frank manner.  As a member of the LGBTetc. community, I've known/do know a number of transgender people--some who are very open and desirous of having conversations that illuminate themselves and the struggles they've been through, and others who are fiercely private and even aggressively political with respect to discussions about their bodies or bodies in general.

When someone says that a person's genitals are nobody's business but one's own, I have no issue with that, and I don't have a problem with someone asserting that.  But let's be clear, here: We as a culture and perhaps even as a species are entirely OBSESSED with genitals, ours and everyone else's.  Just take a look at even the most heteronormative programing on TV and try to tell me that straight, cisgender people are singling out non-straight or transgender people in that respect; they're as fascinated with each other's privates as anybody else's.  As a gay man, I've had many prying questions asked of me about my sex life and, in that context, anatomy that I may not typically want to engage except with those closest to me, but I don't take issue with being asked the questions because I have a right to tell people it's none of their business unless I feel comfortable.  And regarding that specifically in addressing the episode, there was an obvious familiarity between Amy and Jay that is distinctive of all the "Amy Goes Deep" segments, whether she knows the interviewees or not--and it should be noted that this is most certainly not the first segment where Amy has interviewed a friend with a particular attribute or occupation she finds worth discussing in a way that is jocularly rattling in her directness and feigned ignorance.

I noted right away that her line of questioning would upset some in the trans community and allies.  It was at times abrasive and shocking, particularly for me as someone who would never utter those questions to a trans person in the way she did.  But that's the whole point.  Jay was there, willing to answer whatever Amy asked, and Amy asked the types of questions that--like it or not--often come to mind for cisgender people when they think of trans people, and can often be answered without malice when the trans person is comfortable.  As I said, we're all obsessed with genitals, and while transgender persons may have particular curiosities directed their way that cisgender people (and, I would argue, mostly straight cisgender people, as I have been asked some doozies) are not subjected to, those questions are there and will be there whether you like them or not.  I'll reiterate that no one is required to answer those questions, but to force those questions outside the realm of what can be discussed is to dismiss the reality that not addressing those questions will firmly plant an individual in the status of "Other."

I have found that the best way to stop people from asking silly, prying, or offensive questions is to answer them as bluntly as I can, and even to have a sense of humor about it.  Whether or not you think that information should matter to anyone doesn't change the fact that it does matter to the majority of people.  Often, something matters far less and then not at all when you've gotten through the hard part of talking about it until people are ready to change the subject.  There are many things I would love to have asked trans people that I'm sad to say I've kept to myself, for fear of being called a bigot when I truly mean no harm.  I could say the same about certain issues regarding racial and ethnic minorities.  But as long as there is no public forum for which to address admittedly clumsy, perhaps even stupid questions, we can't complain about others' ignorance without shouldering some of the blame.

I also think, given the show's content, most viewers aren't exactly coming from a Ted Cruz level of empathy for and understanding of trans people, so maybe lighten up a bit.  It doesn't take a genius to know that Inside Amy Schumer is not always or even often to be taken at face value, even in the context of a single episode.
cmichaelswitzer
cmichaelswitzer 5ptsFeatured
My fellow queers seem to have gone off the rails. First of all, the interview was obviously - both because of its context and because of its content - a piece of humor, and the joke could easily be interpreted as a satire of the kind of interviews that other trans people face, or satire of a ditsy girl (a frequent Schumer persona) encountering a trans woman for the first time. Or it could be interpreted as a straight interview, in which case, I have to say, people who are famous for being trans should be prepared to answer these kinds of questions. Understanding is not a theoretical exercise. It comes only from knowing, so if inquiring minds want to know, you can choose either to be misunderstood or to answer hurtful questions. Third, if we wanted to criticize Schumer, we could say that she crossed the line of polite conversation. One simply does not discuss one's genetalia in mixed company, not to mention a recorded interview. Instead, to save us from the horrifying prospect of being without outrage for a single moment, we must reach for transphobia. This is nonsense unbefitting the gay rights movement, which must always stand for social liberal values. I worry that we've forgotten that.
Bryan Lowder
Bryan Lowder 5ptsmoderatorSlate WriterFeatured
@cmichaelswitzer Say you are right--that this whole segment was a meta joke on Katie Couric asking Laverne Cox about her genitals. 1. Is that really all that funny? If the word "c*ck" makes you laugh in the context of a trans person, I'm not sure your humor is as sophisticated as you think. 2. How many people do you really believe are on a level with trans issues to get that kind of satire? Maybe Schumer is working on that level, but we know that most Americans are not. I don't have data, but I would bet a good chunk of money that most viewers read this totally straight and as a reinforcement of the weird demand that trans people "answer all my questions." A demand that you, of course, articulate again here, even though you can learn all you want to from reading reams of great, patient writing on the subject on sites like Outward and elsewhere from people who have offered to educate, rather than forcing trans individuals to account for themselves as some kind of penance for challenging limited understandings of gender. To be clear, I'm not against comedy (or trans comedy), and I don't think these discussions have to be deadly serious. But I do think the subject matter currently requires a certain amount of finesse and care, and none of the pushback to this piece has convinced me otherwise. In fact, a lot of it has proven my point.
yoyoz
yoyoz 5ptsFeatured
@cmichaelswitzer Disagree. I think it was meant as a very normalizing conversation between two girls. It definitely didn't feel like a spoof.

But I don't agree with Lowder either. I don't think you can say 'people have agency' and then say 'but things don't happen in a vacuum to larger scarier things'. You obviously are valuing one idea of choice over the other, and its always agency that loses. This woman is completely okay with the questions asked and that is okay. If someone else goes off and asks those questions to someone else, maybe they get a backhand. Either way, they learn on a person-by-person basis what is acceptable to that individual. That should be the goal here,..

Fitzpatrick
Fitzpatrick 5ptsFeatured
" I have to acknowledge that Bailey Jay, the self-identified transsexual who Schumer interviewed, seemed more or less fine with the often wildly invasive lines of questioning that the host pursued. I am definitely not here to tell Jay how to present herself or how to feel..."
Talk about tone-deaf. Jay is not just a "self-identified" transsexual, she is a transsexual woman. Adding that qualifier is like saying she's a "so-called" transsexual.
And of course you're trying to tell her how to feel, or at least whether it's OK to share those feelings in an interview. Jay doesn't owe you any tribute, she can decide for herself which interviews are worth giving.
Finally, she's not a "porn star." She's an adult film actress, and that does not, despite your harangues to the contrary, make her a less worthy person. Again, she doesn't have to speak for you, nor you for her. She's speaking for herself.
I think it's obvious who lacks sophistication in this conversation. The rest of us fans of Schumer's get the jokes, including the meta joke that this interview is. Of course the questions are rude and intrusive. Did you see where Schumer deadpans that Hollywood men get to decide whether she's hot, and that women's attractiveness has an expiration date, and that women are only valuable if men like them? Yeah, this is more of that.
tinab1181
tinab1181 5ptsFeatured
@Fitzpatrick  The reason for the qualification is that transgender is usually considered the "proper" or "preferred" term as opposed to transsexual. Therefore, the author is noting that Amy used Bailey's preferred identifier.

The problem with Amy's sketch is that most people don't know enough about trans issues to realize that lots of these things *are* problems. Maybe not for Bailey, but for the general trans population.
Bryan Lowder
Bryan Lowder 5ptsmoderatorSlate WriterFeatured
@tinab1181 @Fitzpatrick Thank you, Tinab--that's correct. At least in a US context, "transsexual" is usually considered an out-dated and possibly offensive term. If I hadn't qualified it, commenters would be accusing me of transphobia. 

And Tinab's last bit is a perfect summary of my main point--Bailey seems great and I'm happy for her to talk about her own experience however she likes. But the show's framing of the interview made it seem like it was about the trans experience in general rather than one woman's very particular (and career driven) version of that experience, and it really did play into a lot of the violating scrutiny that we need to stop. And if you don't buy that such inquisitions are a problem, just look at this comment thread--so many people can't seem to imagine encountering a trans person without immediately expecting information that only a doctor or lover need to know. It's so weird and messed up. That impulse is why Schumer's sketch should give us pause.
Fitzpatrick
Fitzpatrick 5ptsFeatured
Thanks for the exaplanation. Per Wikipedia (and its sources) transsexualism is a subset of transgender, and the question of which is "proper" is subjective.
What was it about the show's framing of the interview that made it seem like more than an interview of a particular person? 
Christopher Mowry
Christopher Mowry 5ptsFeatured
@Fitzpatrick Spot on in your initial point! Transmisogyny from trans women of trans allies is a serious problem. Butthurrt HBS girls have taken it upon themselves to claim they are true transexuals and any other girls that may be non-op or simply transgender are somehow fake. 

It's needles insight that needs to stop.
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SJMAA
SJMAA 5ptsFeatured
To bluesy rock music: "three day stubble and long blond hair, he's a real bad tranny, and she doesn't care" and...."he'll kick your ass if you get in her face". Better with the whole thing
SJMAA
SJMAA 5ptsFeatured
Too bad you can't upload a music file on the comment section. I wrote a great song called "Bad Tranny" about an encounter I had in Santa Barbara a few years ago. Actually empowering and funny, nevertheless, just the use of the word tranny is verboten to the anal retentive set on this site. We have to take the word tranny back. Even though it has been used as hate speach, it also has a long tradition associated with campy fun that has nothing to do with hate at all. There are some that think they own the right to its use. They may think they do, and they may say they do, but they don't. We're taking it back dammit!
Lucidblueeye
Lucidblueeye 5ptsFeatured
What seems to be completely misunderstood by the author, and those who tend to describe themselves as SJW's, is nothing short of how society and people work.
Let's be clear, no change has ever occurred in an individual from badgering them over the head about being wrong. Let's be clear, this is not to even say that their position is wrong, even if they're dead on nut correct. No change ever occurs in an individual by continually berating them about being wrong, except in one case, victims of abuse.
One must understand that for people to change, they have to relate, and this sketch does something quite important, it makes the issue relatable. If SJW's care about anything other than "being right" or constantly one-upping each other on the disection of every social nuance in order to find a kernel of victimization, they might actually do something themselves, understand how the world actually works instead of how they think it works.
Kudos to Schumer for the segment.
Apples
Apples 5ptsFeatured
What's the correct term for the place Slate is at now that's two-steps past self-parody?      It's like the first purge got rid of anyone with a sense of humor, and latest purge has done away with last tenuous connections to any reality outside of the rigid dogma of this week's lgbtqurrssdxrxwggb orthodoxy.
Elwood Blues
Elwood Blues 5ptsFeatured
It's hard to imagine interviewing a porn star without asking about their junk. Why else would you be talking to them?
RJGnyc
RJGnyc 5ptsFeatured
"I am not convinced that the larger viewership is sophisticated enough on trans issues yet for that kind of subtle comedy."  Maybe you're just not sophisticated enough?
Umphmeister
Umphmeister 5ptsFeatured
Does anyone know how to navigate this friggin minefield? You need like a PhD in gender studies (I assume that's a thing) to avoid royally annoying half the community. There's a different taboo everyday.
And frankly if the goal is to disassociate gender from genitalia, I won't be holding my breath. No amount of think pieces is turning that kettle white.
Blood Hound
Blood Hound 5ptsFeatured
Progressive writers are always claiming that funny comedians are progressive. They never check those assumptions.
Gadfly
Gadfly 5ptsFeatured
@Blood Hound ... she's pretty openly critical of blacks ... at least for the names they choose for their kids ... but that's not so bold, I suppose.
NNevada
NNevada 5ptsFeatured
“Did you ever think about snipping off … your penis?” Schumer asks with characteristic (and here tone-deaf) bravado, playing right into the genital fixation that is the bane of many trans people’s existence.

Um, the existence of contrary genitalia in trans gendered individuals is the one, singular characteristic that defines them as such.  If you are interviewing someone about there life as a trans person, ignoring this fundamental fact misses the point entirely.  It would be inappropriate if you set out to interview a trans person about their tastes in art or their expertise in fencing, but if you're talking about what it's like to be trans, it's all about the junk.  How could it be otherwise?
RJGnyc
RJGnyc 5ptsFeatured
@NNevada It might not be only about the junk, but certainly that must be one of the major issues leading to gender reassignment.

That said, what makes an interview like this one funny is that she's asking all of the most incredibly intrusive personal questions that are on non-trans-people's minds, but instead of doing it with proper correctness, she's going Full Metal Howard Stern.  So the answers are provided -- but the questioner is clearly being rude and inconsiderate.  That's called humor.  The columnist doesn't get it.
middleogtheroad14
middleogtheroad14 5ptsFeatured
Slate should give it a rest. Gay marriage is on the verge of going national as it should, but sorry if we aren't ALL right there with the lgbt activists on how we view and joke about transgendered folks!
Freshjessie
Freshjessie 5ptsFeatured
Amy is a genius. She asked the hard questions so others don't have to. Some people are still learning about "the whole transgender thing". Amy made Baily Jay seem totally relatable which is much preferable to overly-sensitive and completely humorless. - (Thanks for nothing, Bryan). "Expanding the LGBTQ Conversation" my foot. More like trying to contain it in a way that only you see fit.
Panique
Panique 5ptsFeatured
J. Bryan Lowder writes as if the camera filming Inside Amy Schumer were a fly on the wall for an impromptu, live interview, in which an unwitting subject was ambushed and humiliated.
Wrong. Schumer's show is a (mostly) scripted, heavily edited program. Bailey Jay was there because she wanted to be there. She knew what would be happening, she was in on the joke, and she approved it.
If Jay had found Schumer's approach to this material to be beyond the pale, she wouldn't have appealed on Schumer's show and that would have been that. Perhaps she thought that this caricature of the doofy questions that people ask trans people was inoffensive. And maybe J. Bryan Lowder should stop telling trans people what ought to offend them. Where is their safe space to judge his privilege?
People are always saying "We need to have an open conversation about [x]...". Always beware of those people, because left out of their codespeak is always "...on my terms." Whenever an actual open conversation like this one happens, it does them a narcissistic injury. How dare you have this conversation without validating my personal prejudices?
Lowder would do well to abandon this kind of approach to cultural criticism. Forever.
SimonTrinculo
SimonTrinculo 5ptsFeatured
@Panique Exactly.  Hell, Schumer is taken to task by Lowder simply for asking her if she's considered having sex reassignment surgery.   Even though Ray is the one who appears to be female but makes it a point to self-identify as "transsexual" which means she doesn't want to be known strictly as a woman.  So Schumer's question seems perfectly reasonable.  Some transexuals will say yes, others no.  But ultimately it is Ray who makes it public that her appearance may not reflect her "plumbing". 
d_d
d_d 5ptsFeatured
Puritan. This author is on a direct line from every stereotypical, grim-faced fanatic ever to exist on the planet.
What a miserable, confused, self-righteous p***ck.
SimonTrinculo
SimonTrinculo 5ptsFeatured
"And then, regarding Jay’s husband: “What was it like to watch him enter this situation. … I’m assuming he’d just been straight before?” To her credit, Jay quickly clarifies that her husband, being with a woman, remains straight,"

Just so we're clear, if you're a man who is in a sexual relationship with another man, you're still straight as long as he pretends to be a woman?

I mean, I guess they're all just labels but it's still a little confusing.  One might even say that Bailey's husband is homophobic because he's ashamed to consider himself gay despite the fact he engages in anal sex with a man.



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Qaqqaq
Qaqqaq 5ptsFeatured
@SimonTrinculo Is what is between her legs the only thing that defines her? She has boobs too ya know.
SimonTrinculo
SimonTrinculo 5ptsFeatured
@Qaqqaq It's not the only thing that defines her, but it's a reflection of her genetic makeup.  She's got the XY chromosome set so she's male by definition.

Now, I support the right for people who want to pretend to be something they aren't to do just that.  I'll even go along with using her preferred pronoun and address her by her desired first name.

But this idea that I have to deny the reality of who/what she is or else be guilty of a ThoughtCrime is where I draw the line. 
Qaqqaq
Qaqqaq 5ptsFeatured
@SimonTrinculo @Qaqqaq Not guilty of a thought crime, just guilty of being kind of a jerk about the whole thing. 

It is clear she isn't pretending to be anything. She IS a trans-gendered woman. See the transgendered part is upfront. Also brain scans show the brain of a tansgender person is physically different from a male. So there is no pretending.
Reminiscent of a bee
Reminiscent of a bee 5ptsFeatured
@SimonTrinculo go to hell
NeutralEvilSocialJusticeBard
NeutralEvilSocialJusticeBard 5ptsFeatured
@Reminiscent of a bee @SimonTrinculo I can't even see where you really pissed him off. I assume you are supposed to just ask what you're supposed to be thinking or take Lowder's word for it and watch as American culture changes around you without you having any say in the matter.
SimonTrinculo
SimonTrinculo 5ptsFeatured

Yeah, I'm not sure either.  I was really just saying that if you're a man who is in a sexual relationship with an individual with male sex organs, it makes more sense to consider yourself gay rather than straight.
Owen
Owen 5ptsFeatured
"But I am not convinced that the larger viewership is sophisticated enough on trans issues yet for that kind of subtle comedy... nor do I think that this sort of segment allows for the nuance required in these discussions right now." -- You want an nuanced discussion about gender, but you don't think people are sophisticated enough to understand the nuances. Sorry, but you need to come to terms with the fact that the vast majority of people don't want to sit through a 2 hour lecture on gender politics, just because the interview didn't follow the pre-approved trans advocate script, that doesn't make it horrible.
Joey_33
Joey_33 5ptsMemberFeatured
@Owen Right - I thought it was really helpful, because for most folks watching a Comedy Central sketch show, those cringe-inducing questions are exactly the questions they'll have about trans people.  I thought it was great the way the interviewer and subject just got in front of those questions and presented them to the audience matter of factly.
tinab1181
tinab1181 5ptsFeatured
@Owen  I am aware of trans issues and I cringed when the genital questioning happened. It happens all the time to transfolk, to people whose day jobs don't include getting naked. My biggest issues with the Amy interview were that she didn't introduce who Bailey Jay was. I wouldn't have felt the same way about the genital questioning if she had mentioned that Jay was an adult film star and the part where she asked if Bailey's husband was straight (because if you look at some of the comments above, they show how clearly the belief is that a person born with a penis remains a man, even if they identify otherwise. This is incorrect, but common.)

That said, I liked the interview, and I thought it came from a good place and it fit well with the theme of the episode. I just wish those two changes were made.
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