MI- workplace gender discrimination.

Napalmenator · 22 時間前

You were not fired for your gender. You were fired for using company computers to look up personal and not work appropriate things. Perfectly legal. Learn to keep your personal life personal and find a new job

aluben_x · 21 時間前

Are you going to keep downvoting every answer in this thread that is not "oh yeah totally sue them?" I would suggest not using company time to browse "totally not anti-women" websites unless that is part of your job description. Also, /r/justneckbeardthings.

SagittariaKnows · 22 時間前

Did they fire all the men just for being men? Or were you fired for something you said or did?

It's twitter. Not tweeter.

You can file for unemployment - be prepared for them to contest it.

TotesMessenger · 18 時間前

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stumblepretty · 22 時間前

You weren't fired for being pro-men's rights, you were fired for hate speech. There's a difference. This isn't gender discrimination. More than that, I'd imagine that even if you did have a leg to stand on, you were doing non-work activities on company time and could be fired for that, as well.

You're not going to get unemployment for this.

lawnerdcanada · 21 時間前

Is this discrimination?

Yes (but see below).

Can I get recourse to get rehired?

Absolutely not.

Is this legal?

Yes.

You worked for a private corporation. You're not entitled to due process. You're not entitled to equal protection vis-a-vis comparable use of work time by other employees. Neither federal nor Michigan law protects you from employment discrimination on the basis of political opinion. All of this "yeah but" stuff you're pulling out just doesn't matter.

taterbizkit · 19 時間前

recourse to get rehired?

Putting all other issues aside, generally, "no".

Sometimes, under a contract or collective bargaining agreement, the contract will specify terms for rehiring a wrongly terminated employee.

But if a judge tells a company "You have to rehire person X", then X engages in some other firable misconduct, the court has to get involved AGAIN, and now it has to decide whether both parties are acting in good faith. Courts don't like to do that (outside of family law and some government contract situations), so they won't order you back to work.

If you were wrongfully terminated, you would be entitled to unemployment benefits.

(I am making no statement one way or the other about the merits of your claim -- just answering the ancillary questions.)

CannaK · 4 時間前

Men's rights are one thing. MGTOW is another thing. MGTOW is anti-women hate speech.

Also, you were doing non-company things on company time.

Ahl93 · 2 時間前

Wow OP, you got demolished, I almost actually feel bad for you.

Bend over, it's time for your red pill suppository.

CujoCrunch · 18 時間前

OP, see here (PDF warning) for an explanation of what type of misconduct would disqualify you from unemployment in MI. I think you'll win on appeal (if not the first time around) as long as you didn't have a series of conflicts over your MRA website usage at work.

if the actions by the worker show merely the worker’s inability to do the job correctly, or show an isolated case of bad judgment or negligence, then the worker will not be disqualified from receiving unemployment benefits. (This does not necessarily mean the employer did not have a good reason for firing the worker.) Acts committed by the worker that have no connection with the work will not result in disqualification if the employer fires the worker for them.

Even if you read the MRA site everyday, it's not a "series" if they didn't warn you in between visits that you were committed an act "bad judgment" for which they'd fire you, etc.

CujoCrunch · 19 時間前

on a company computer on company time...why can't I have pro men's rights stuff on my computer?

Here's your big problem: it's not your computer.

I agree that mens' rights websites are not uniformly "hate speech" or whatever, but they probably can fire you for browsing them on company computers without facing a successful gender bias suit. Contact the EEOC if you'd like to file a complaint.

My female co-worker also visits the same websites for ideas for her tweeter posts and she didn't get fired.

That sucks, but I don't see how it change your situation in at-will employment. But your firing doesn't appear to involve gross misconduct, from what you've said. Gross misconduct is generally stealing, intentionally damaging the company, etc.

File for unemployment. If your first application is denied, appeal. It's common for contested unemployment applications to be denied the first time but the allowed on appeal. The appeals level general has more experienced employees who better understand nuances in unemployment rules.

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