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Anti-sjws being racist dick holes (good-night-sjws.tumblr.com)

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[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 114 ポイント115 ポイント  (84子コメント)

Are you sure it's because of the color of their skin (I know the black and monkeys comparison is a thing) and not because they're acting like wild animals? It would be a fair comparison regardless of skin color.

[–]silverjazz 138 ポイント139 ポイント  (38子コメント)

Given that it originated from a blog called neonationalist I'm pretty sure the racism is intentional.

[–]BasedMcCulloch 59 ポイント60 ポイント  (18子コメント)

There is a double standard. When Bush was president, he was the target of frequent comparisons to various apes and it was considered "all in good fun." Once Obama became president, identical comparisons were met by people scream bloody murder about "racism."

People need to get the fuck over themselves.

[–]FarleyFinsterExpatAmeriKin 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

When Bush was president, he was the target of frequent comparisons to various apes

Because he happens to look rather chimpish, especially in caricature.

Obama became president, identical comparisons

That was the standard Stormfront "porch monkey" and "dirty ape" fare there.

Had they called Obama nearly any other animal only the SJWs and others desperate to be offended would have complained. Bush actually looks like a money; it was a one-off. Carter (I was alive for him) was often drawn like a jackrabbit because of those buck teeth. But "black guy = monkey" is a systemic racist trope in the US.

I'm pretty surprised I have to spell this out. When I point out the fairly obvious here I usually get called a Nazi so at least that won't happen this time 'round.

[–]sweetwattahResident Offender 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I often find here on reddit that most are either oblivious or unwilling to acknowledge racial connotations.

[–]JCQ -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (13子コメント)

It's not a double standard, it's because of the context of hundreds of years of racism against black people in America where they were treated as lesser people and considered to be closer to apes. And the context of the monkey comparison being used as dog-whistle racism. Calling it double standards that people can't call Obama an ape is like calling it double standards that black people can wear whiteface but white people can't wear blackface.

[–]rynosaur94cis-kin 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (10子コメント)

It is a double standard, though you claim its a justified one. I know I'll get shit for this, but ideally such double standards would not exist.

[–]davorzdralotorrentkin / pronouns: seed/leech/peer 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You've literally just described a double standard... and then said it's not a double standard.

[–]JCQ 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the remark existed in a vacuum and life was exactly the same for black people as it is for white people then yes, it would be a double standard. But the remark doesn't exist in a vacuum, and 'monkey' exists in the context of centuries of racism and oppression meaning it had different meanings when applied to black people than it does when applied to white people. One of the most fundamental principles of all human interaction is that context dictates meaning. It's the difference between racial epithets being terms of endearment and being insults, it's the difference between punching someone in a boxing ring and punching them in the street, it's the difference between "I fucked him" referring to an act of sex or an act of murder. There's no double standard here, it's just one of many cases where different contexts give words different meanings.

[–]SpacemanBoots -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, I was watching a Simpsons episode recently in which Homer called the president a monkey. And I had to laugh because of exactly this reason. But was also a little put off, thinking how people just love to point and shout "racism".

[–]yep45heteronormative 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

You'll find that black people are often compared to monkeys by racists. The implication being that they are primitive and subhuman

[–]BattlesheepPaul Mua'doo, the Shitsatz Haderach 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The one's pictured ARE being primitive and subhuman. Why isn't the comparison apt?

[–]yep45heteronormative -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Nobody is being "subhuman". That's just far too extreme. Humanity is rife with flaws and while there is no excuse for their behavior, that is not a reason to deny their basic humanity

[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (2子コメント)

That's the thing. I didn't get that the comparison was "blacks to monkeys" when I saw it at first. I thought it was "violent mobs are monkeys". Like that useless trash that rioted over a football game. a while back.

[–]yep45heteronormative -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Yeah it happens, lots of things have subtle racist connotations that many people are not aware of

[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah. I personally wouldn't have gone with monkeys. Given that, more often that not, it's racist. Boar would have worked. And it doesn't have any racial connotations (that I know of at least).

[–]cruelandusualSTEMlord, man, legendary oppressor? 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I know the black and monkeys comparison is a thing

Well of course, that's what you makes you edgy and not at all racist.

[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What?

[–]filthyridh -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (5子コメント)

lol of course some dude defending blatant racism is upvoted here

[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Oh fuck off. I didn't know it was racist when I made that comment. With RES you don't see the OP. Only who reblogged it.

[–]filthyridh -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (3子コメント)

you can't seriously think the comparison between black people and monkeys could be rooted in anything but racism. this sub loses its shit whenever an "sjw" makes a disparaging comment about white people but point out obvious racism once in a while and it's suddenly all "hey now, let's not judge too quickly!" what a joke.

[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You're missing the point i made in later comments. But I'll make it here as well.

I didn't think it was about blacks being monkeys. I thought it was about rioters being monkeys.

whenever an "sjw" makes a disparaging comment about white people but point out obvious racism once in a while and it's suddenly all "hey now, let's not judge too quickly!" what a joke.

I don't though? If it's just a joke I'll defend them even. I don't have a problem with obvious jokes like the "when the white boy is gettin roasted and he reaches in his backpack picture of black people running out of a school" type jokes. When I saw the post, I saw it as being posted by "good-night-sjws" not "neonationalism".

[–]filthyridh -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

anyone comparing black people to monkeys with no racist intent would have to be so incredibly ignorant, it might be less embarrassing to just be a racist.

[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't disagree. The comparison was fucking stupid. And most people would have picked up on the racist connotations. I didn't at first. But that's just me. I, personally, wouldn't compare blacks to monkeys. Even if it's not because they're black. There are other animals they could have gone with in their comparison that wouldn't have been racist (boars, as I mentioned in another comment).

All I'm saying is that I don't think the comparison is inherently racist. It almost always is, sure. But I don't think that should make the few times it isn't racist, racist.

[–]stumpy013 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Ahh, wilful ignorance

[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Well you don't need to announce your ignorance.

[–]stumpy013 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Zing...

[–]Amethyst-StarCatgirl-kin. Pronyans are kawaii/desu/ne 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Seriously. Just read my other comments. You'll see that, when I realized this post was from a racist user, I quickly agreed that the post itself was racist.