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[–]piggiewiggy 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (15子コメント)

I find it disgusting that people can vote when they arent even a citizen of this country. They dont need to prove shit and yet they have the same rights as me bullshit.

[–]555nick### 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (14子コメント)

It'll be a real surprise to you that those here illegally don't seek out contact with the government to do criminal acts and risk being kicked out of the country, all in order to make a near inconsequential addition to elections, but it doesn't happen.

[–]yep45Constitutionalist 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (2子コメント)

It may surprise you to find out that non citizens do vote in elections regularly and have had a measurable impact on the outcomes of some of them

[–]Pompsy 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Elsevier is an incredibly shitty journal that has really shitty peer review process along with literally paying people to give their journals 5 stars on Amazon. I'd take anything they say with a grain of salt.

[–]TheMossad 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (5子コメント)

In my state, it's much easier for an illegal immigrant to buy an AR15 than it is for him to get a drivers license. It's sad that most conservatives are more worried about 1 or 2 illegals voting (which we KNOW is extremely rare) than thousands of them running guns to Mexico en masse for drugs (which we KNOW happens all the time).

Edit: Thanks for the downvotes. Seriously, what happened to conservatives that illegals running guns for drugs isn't a big deal but near non-existent voter fraud is? Is gun running for drugs only bad when that shitbag Eric Holder does it?

Edit2: Wow thanks for the upvotes lol. I just think it'd be so simple to just ask to see an ID, no need for lists or anything beyond a simple glance at an American ID. Because FUCK the Cartels, they're the ones who are making life so shitty for the south and central Americans that they flow into the USA claiming asylum in the first place.

[–]pipechapLibertarian Conservative 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I just think it'd be so simple to just ask to see an ID, no need for lists or anything beyond a simple glance at an American ID.

Because gun runners are absolutely guaranteed to not have access to fake IDs, or possess the ability convince someone who possesses an ID to be a straw purchaser.

For every system there is a counter system, and in this case, the suggested system is terribly overridden by the counter system.

[–]bllasaeLibertarian Conservative 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

sad that most conservatives are more worried about 1 or 2 illegals voting (which we KNOW is extremely rare)

haha what

[–]FasCap 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (4子コメント)

No, but ballot stuffing does. We wouldn't even know about it if they didn't mess it up so much ( I refuse to believe that the dead are returning in droves just to vote Democrat). Knowing someone's name should not be enough to cast their vote, and it should be harder to subvert the process than a corrupt election worker seeing a list of names they could just write in.

[–]555nick### -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

As I said, voter fraud in significant numbers doesn't happen.

It's like that email about the jet engine strapped to a Chevy Impala - a good story, but not true.

[–]FasCap 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

There is a difference between Voter Fraud and Election Fraud. There is a difference between a felon intentionally voting dispite ineligibility, and a 110% registered voter turnout.

Those studies only look into the former. "Irregularities" happen in pretty much every close and contested election of significance, which is no surprise when you follow a system with less assurance than most undeveloped nations use. A few union guys can volunteer and throw off an entire district, it should not be this way.