HBB seeking legal redress against Calgary Expo


Hannah Wallen

Hannah Wallen

Hannah has witnessed women's use of criminal and family courts to abuse men in five different counties, and began writing after she saw one man's ordeal drag on for seven years, continuing even when authorities had substantial evidence that the accuser was gaming the system. She is the author of Breaking the Glasses, written from an anti-feminist perspective, with a focus on men's rights and sometimes social issues. Breaking the Glasses refers to breaking down the "ism" filters through which people view the world, replacing thought in terms of political rhetoric with an exploration of the human condition and human interactions without regard to dogmatic belief systems. She has a youtube channel (also called Breaking the Glasses), and has also written for A Voice For Men and Genderratic.
Hannah Wallen

The Honey Badger Brigade is now seeking legal advice to hold the Calgary Expo staff accountable for their acts of abuse and discrimination against us. We have made attempts in the past week to diffuse the situation by attempting to contact Mr. Kelly Dowd, president of the Calgary Expo. We have received no response.

On April 17th 2015, the Honey Badger Brigade was forcibly evicted and our booth ordered removed, despite our operating well within the rules of the Expo and its policies of conduct. We were not given a chance to dispute the alleged complaints. The organization violated its own stated policy in the process and has released conflicting claims regarding its reasons for our removal.

Those claims indicate that we were removed due to our Men’s Rights Activism and unpopular view of modern feminism. Therefore it is our belief that the actions taken by the Calgary Expo staff were of a political nature and contravene the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, in particular freedom of conscience, freedom of thought and freedom of association.

If so, this eviction was based in discrimination, an act that has defamed and abused us. While we would prefer to settle this outside of a courtroom, we are prepared to take every legal action needed to ensure that ourselves and other future exhibitors will be treated equally, and without such a denial of their fundamental human rights.

Our letter to Mr. Dowd:

Honey Badger Brigade

PO Box 990
Kelvington, SK
S0A 1W0

Email: honeybadgersradio@gmail.com

Sent by: email and regular mail

April 22, 2015

Kelly Dowd
Calgary Comics and Entertainment Expo
720A Edmonton Trail NE
Calgary, AB
T2E 3J4

Email: reddskullcomics@shaw.ca

Re: Calgary Expo, Honey Badger Brigade ejection.

Dear Mr. Kelly Dowd:

Given the unfortunate sequence of events at your Calgary Expo this April 17th that led to the ejection of myself, my booth and fellow members of my group Honey Badger Brigade therefrom, I find it necessary to bring to your attention the following information for your immediate disposition.

By your organization ignoring the massive eruption of outrage by social media to your staff wrongfully and without just cause forcing us to evacuate our booth from the Calgary Expo, by not having any communication thereafter with us, I have taken the initiative to begin a process exploring a remedy thereto.

Summary of the incident in question, our ejection.

On Friday the 17th of April, 2015, I was ordered to remove the contents of my booth, BF3821, forfeit my Calgary Comics and Entertainment Expo badge and was ejected from the Calgary Expo 2015 along with other members of my group, the Honey Badger Brigade. Their names are; Hannah Wallen, Karen Straughan, Anna Cherry, Rachel Edwards, Mike Stephenson and Brian Martinez. Also involved were volunteers, Jonathan Doyle and Sage Gerard as well as Anna Cherry’s cosplay partner.

Background leading up to the incident of ejection.

The Honey Badger Brigade booth was initially registered under the media group name I had considered for our group’s publishing efforts, “Insert media”; the link went to honeybadgerbrigade.com. We later decided that we would not use that name for our group publishing efforts and I requested that Exhibitor Coordinator, Ken Poole, update both the name and the link to Xenospora and xenospora.com, respectively on January 22nd, 2015. At that time the booth was planned to be primarily for Xenospora, the comic I wrote and all the other members of the Brigade have helped to support making it a reality, but would include work related to Honey Badger Brigade and an anti-censorship statement as well.

After our fundraiser went live but before we had fundraised the entire amount successfully, I asked Ken Poole if I would be able to update the exhibitor name on March 14th, 2015 using the xenospora@gmail.com address. I included our booth number in the email.

After the Gamergate and Honey Badger fans funded additional members of Honey Badger Brigade to attend the convention I requested that Ken Poole update the booth name through the honeybadgersradio@gmail.com address on March 31st, 2015. I inadvertently requested that he change “insert media” to “Honey Badger Brigade” at that time and did not provide a booth number. Despite the fact I had used insert media instead of Xenospora and had switched email contact addresses, Ken Poole was able to make the connection between insert media, Xenospora and Honey Badger Brigade and fulfill my request, regardless. He expressed no concern over our registration change or the final name, Honey Badger Brigade. I then attempted to update the link through the Calgary Comics and Entertainment Expo website interface.

Ken Poole never gave any indication that these name changes were a problem. Nor did he raise any concern over our group in any manner what so ever. The booth would be called “Honey Badger Brigade.” The comic would still be included and was still displayed in the front of the booth. “Honey Badger Brigade” is the name that Expo staff had printed on the booth’s display placard, placed at the top and center of the back curtain of the booth. It was also printed on the badges the expo provided to the group, in the booth listing in programs handed out to attendees and others at the convention, it was also the name we were listed under on the Expo’s website.

Description of the Incident

On Thursday, April 16th, 2015, the first day of the Expo an Expo staff member at the table across from our booth was overheard saying “we need to start shutting down some booths” by Hannah Wallen, who witnessed two ladies talking to the staff member, a man. One of the ladies replied “yeah, like that one” and motioned toward the Honey Badger booth. These statements could have been taken multiple ways, including as a joke. To clarify this, two members from our group asked the Expo staff member involved what it was about. He denied that the conversation had occurred and said he had not been a part of it. Our group members returned to the booth and after a discussion decided to start recording all interactions with staff and public under Hannah’s advisement.

I had previously requested permission to livestream(record) in our booth from Expo Media staff member Alex Kingcott using the honeybadgersradio@gmail.com account with the name “Honey Badgers.” She replied that we did not need permission but thanked me for asking and mentioned that few do.

After the conversation that Hannah overheard, most of the members stayed with the booth the rest of the day.

Thursday evening, myself and Sage Gerard attended the Women Into Comics panel. Following Hannah’s suggestion and over her concern about potential false accusations, we took an audio recorder with us. During the panel discussion, in response to a statement made by one of the panelists about Men’s Rights Activists, I stood up and asked to speak and was given permission by the panel as I identify as a Men’s Rights Activist. I was given permission to speak both asking for it initially and again after identifying myself as an MRA (men’s rights activist.) She spoke briefly and a short discussion resulted from her statement. The audio of this, as well as a recording of the entire panel discussion, can be found on the Honey Badger Radio youtube channel.

After that, other members of the audience interjected with their viewpoints. At one point Sage Gerard raised his hand to speak and the Panelists granted him permission. At no point did it appear to be anything occurring of concern, but a lively discussion and demonstration of diverse viewpoints.

The rest of the day was uneventful. Everyone approaching the booth was either already a fan, interested in the artwork and the comic, or politely curious. There was no conflict or confrontation, no complaint, and no staff approached us to complain or warn the group about any behavior.

The first hint the Honey Badger group had that anything was amiss came when it was pointed out to us by others that there were people online bragging about getting the booth shut down and the group ejected. We had still not been contacted by any staff.

Sage Gerard, Hannah Wallen, Mike Stephensen and myself, took first shift at the Expo on April 18th Friday morning. We turned on our recording device again and entered the Big Four Building(where our booth was situated.) A little after we arrived at our booth we were approached by Expo staff member Shayne Henkleman, a female member of Expo staff and two security guards.

Previously Shayne Henkleman had given me his business card on Wednesday April 15th so I could send fire safety information to him in regards to the stretch fabric funnel structure we had set up. I did so via xenospora@gmail.com and included our booth number. Shayne Henkleman had also approached our booth twice while we were setting up on Thursday April 16th first to ask again about the fire safety information, which I told him I had emailed him and also offered to show him and a second time to inform us our booth was not in compliance (due to part of the back exhibit protruding from the booth six inches). In both cases I complied with his requests immediately.

After approaching us on Friday morning, to our utter shock and disbelief, Shayne Henkleman ordered us to tear down the booth and remove it and ourselves from the premises. He refused to give us an on-the-record reason why we were being ejected.

I handed the recording device to Hannah who put it away in the booth. As a group we moved with Shayne Henkleman towards a side entrance. Shayne Henkleman stopped us and informed us that he would only speak to me and only if no recording device was being used. I asked if my husband could come with me and he allowed that.

Once I was alone with the Expo Staff they informed me I was to pack up the booth and leave the Expo with my fellow group members. In addition I was penalized with a 10 year company wide, nationwide ban from all of Calgary Expo’s affiliated events. Shayne Henkleman stated that harassing behavior at the panel discussion was the reason for the ban, but would not describe the specific behavior or explain how or why it was considered harassment. Shayne Henkleman stated that there were multiple complaints including 25 on social media. It is unknown to us how many (if any) of the social media accounts complaining to Calgary Expo belonged to actual attendees.

There was no investigation that we are aware of. The Honey Badger group was not asked for an account of any events during the previous day. No attempt was made to further inform the group or even give the group a chance to respond to the accusations. Shayne Henkleman aggressively repeated the eviction order. We were in shock, devastated by the action of the Calgary Expo staff. My husband, Jonathan Doyle, spoke further with Shayne Hinkleman while Hannah, Sage, Mike and myself attempted to comply with his draconian order.

After Shayne Henkleman had ordered us to leave, Rick(last name not known) approached us to indicate we should be out of the building by the time doors opened. That gave us ten minutes to disassemble a booth that took us 3-4 hours to put up. Security staff remained nearby as the group struggled attempting to comply without having brought the required tools or protective materials for the artwork and installation components. Expo Staff implied that if we were not quick enough about it we would be ejected without the material from the booth. The reason they gave for rushing us was that attendees entering and seeing the booth coming down would “look bad”. They had no concern about the damage to my art, or to our safety.

This incident contravenes the published policies and procedures outlined in Calgary Expo’s materials. Their own policies specifically state that verbal warnings and requests to cease the behavior should be the first step in the process of dealing with complaints about exhibitors and attendees.

Later, multiple accounts were released on social media in response to complaints and outrage from fans about our ejection, some of which contradicted each other. Expo staff at first repeated the accusation of harassment and claimed that the ejection was not political. Another source stated that the reason was due to the switch in email addresses during the initial communications while reserving the booth. This source claimed that despite approving the name change and using the new name on Expo-created material, Expo staff did not know the group was the Honey Badger Brigade. This simply could not be true. If that was the case it contradicts the earlier assertion that the ban was not political, as politics is the only reason why knowing the group’s name would result in rejecting the application for a booth including a comic artist’s work.

Calgary Expo has not provided us any information in writing or on the record as to why we were ejected or the extreme and severe punishment of being banned for 10 years. Their social media account initially retweeted an article on “The Mary Sue”, implying full or partial agreement with the account of events described in that article. The article itself suggested that HBB “tricked” the convention into hosting an HBB booth because the initial communication and registration was conducted through email addresses other than the HBB webmail. They posted a quote from our fund-raiser which was satirical in nature as “evidence” that we had been planning for decades to “infiltrate” the 2015 Calgary Expo and spread a “totalitarian” message in support of freedom of expression. The article also made prominent mention of our support of “gamergate” in regards to why we were ejected. That “retweet” has since been deleted by Calgary Expo.

This incident contravenes the published policies and procedures outlined in Calgary Expo’s materials. Their own policies specifically state that verbal warnings and requests to cease the behavior should be the first step in the process of dealing with complaints about exhibitors and attendees conduct.

Given that we knew many of our fans were planning to attend the Expo specifically to meet us, we arranged an alternate spot in a public park (Reader Rock Garden) near the convention grounds so that they would not be deprived of this opportunity. We convened there peacefully on Saturday and Sunday afternoons, and chatted with the fans who joined us, some travelling 36 hours to get there.

On Sunday, security staff at the convention gathered directly across the street from us where about 25 of us were chatting, taking photos and enjoying the sun. At around 3:30, a police officer in a van pulled up and spoke to us. He informed us that Expo security had called police over concerns we might try to “crash” the convention and protest or otherwise cause trouble. We assured the officer that we were only there, in a public park, to meet those individuals who had purchased tickets and/or traveled to the convention in hopes of meeting us. He informed us that as we were members of the public and were not violating laws, we were welcome to stay in the park as long as we liked. In his words, “you seem like a really nice bunch of people. Have a nice day.”

Given the serious gravity of this situation including but not limited to a violation of our Charter rights, I request your written response by the end of business this Friday, April 24, 2015. Failing a response with a satisfactory resolution to this matter, will leave us no choice, but to pursue all lawful remedy to protect the interest of the Honey Badger Brigade, my intellectual property Xenospora and myself Alison Tieman.

Yours truly

Honey Badger Brigade
Alison Tieman
Founder/Creator, Honey Badger Radio

AT/ks

CC Naheed Kurban Nenshi – Mayor of Calgary
Stephen Harper – MP
Yvonne Fritz – MPP
Charles Adler

In preparation for potential legal action we have started a legal fund. However, we do not yet have a funding goal as we are not yet able to assess the expense until we have more information. Anyone wishing to help us in our fight against discrimination and censorship can donate to it here:
http://www.feedthebadger.com/projects/honey-badger-brigade-legal-fund/

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  • Len Firewood

    Yayyyy just popped $25 towards the legal fund – wish it was more but my pension income limits my generosity. Will do what I can to advertise the cause tho :)

  • TtTreatise

    I’dgladly match donations you receive to the Expo to defend against your deceitful and scurrilous claims. It’s shameless how you attempt to deceive people and whine about being victimized as women whilst shaming feminists as “damseling”. It sounds like you actually know you have no case, and just got caught lying, but I look forward to the counter-suit.

    • bet0001970

      You mad bro?

    • jhkrischel

      Game on. Open up your pocketbook, TtMonster :)

      • TtTreatise

        > TtMonster

        Sick burn. Most impressive.

        • Jere Krischel

          So…you really aren’t opening up your pocketbook, are you :)

          Now, if you were a false flag sock puppet constructed by the HBB to encourage more donations, well, it worked :)

          • TtTreatise

            That seems like a non-sequitur. Expo hasn’t yet started panhandling like the HBB, so there is nowhere to open one’s pockets to.

            I can flush a couple bucks down the toilet in honor of your fleecing, if you like.

          • eLdritchD

            oh yeah please do. I hear destroying your country’s currency is totally not a problem. It’s for a good cause right? ;)

          • Jere Krischel

            I don’t think anyone believes you, TtMonster…not even yourself :)

    • http://sourceforge.net/projects/playerpro/ Madd the Sane

      I’d like to see Calgary’s counter-argument, as the expo’s version of events haven’t been airtight.

      • TtTreatise

        They don’t need a counter argument. The Expo also have freedom of association, speech, and conscience and is not required to be compelled to associate with people that break the implied contract they entered when soliciting for a booth.

        • Elilla Shadowheart

          Actually they do. They could also lose any form of government funding, and the city of alberta could be dragged in legally on this as well since they’re a sponsor of it. That of course comes from the fallout from adscam.

          You don’t seem to understand that the laws are vastly different in Canada when it comes to stuff like this. The courts weight heavily towards the individual in cases like this as well.

        • Jere Krischel

          But aren’t they compelled to keep the explicit contract they made with people who bought booths? Specifically, aren’t they required to follow their own written policies?

          Or is your hypothetical “implied contract” only a one way street? :)

          • TtTreatise

            The exhibitor’s agreed that the CCEE shall enforce their rules as they see fit and are not compelled to refund any lost fees due to a finding of noncompliance. They also agreed to hold harmless the CCEE, so threatening suit is another breach of the contract that they didn’t uphold.
            http://www.calgaryexpo.com/_storage/547f5f3369a93.pdf
            =============
            The CCEE shall have the full power in the interpretation and enforcement of all contract regulations contained herein, and the power to make such amendments thereto, and such further rules and regulations as shall be considered necessary and proper. The foregoing represents the agreement between the undersigned Exhibitor and Calgary Comic & Entertainment Expo, the promoters of the Calgary Comic & Entertainment Expo for the convention held on April 16-19, 2015.

            SETUP & MOVE-OUT
            Exhibitor setup and move-out instructions will be provided in advance. Exhibitors that require special attention, please contact the CCEE for special arrangements.

            EXHIBITOR COMPLIANCE
            The Comic & Entertainment Expo Committee reserves the right to remove any person(s) who does not comply with the rules and regulations outlined in the Exhibitor Agreement, and the policies and procedures outlined on the website. No refund shall be given to exhibitors who are removed from the show.

          • Jere Krischel

            “reserves the right to remove any person(s) who does not comply with the rules and regulations outlined in the Exhibitor Agreement, and the policies and procedures outlined on the website. ”

            The assertion is that HBB complied with all rules, regulations, policies and procedures. CalEx did *not* :)

            Now, you can try to find safe harbor in the first clause, which alleges to give “full power in the interpretation”, but that sounds like boilerplate that isn’t going to hold up well in court :)

          • TtTreatise

            If any reputable attorney agreed with you, the wouldn’t be panhandling with an open letter.

          • Jere Krischel

            The “no true scotsman” argument? :)

            Surely, you can do better than that :)

            Here, some contract interpretation information for you: http://www.reedsmith.com/files/uploads/miscellany/A_Guide_to_Contract_Interpretation__July_2014_.pdf

          • TtTreatise

            It’s an observation, not “no true Scotsman” argument. They don’t have legal representation. Probably for a good reason.

          • Jere Krischel

            By conditioning your statement on “any reputable attorney”, you’ve effectively given yourself “no true scotsman” out, since even if they find an attorney, you’ll assert they’re not reputable :)

            Of course, you’re right – maybe you weren’t thinking that far ahead :)

          • TtTreatise

            What’s with all the smilies.

            Anyways, you can whine about my “conditioning”, but anyone would look at this and run away unless they were guaranteed a non refundable retainer to maybe write a scary letter. Free money, basically, but by writing this rambling screed as a sort of weird demand letter, they’ve chucked any actual leverage they might have had.

            Further, they don’t have an attorney and they don’t have any explicit goal, yet they are still soliciting for a “legal fund”:

            “In preparation for potential legal action we have started a legal fund. However, we do not yet have a funding goal as we are not yet able to assess the expense until we have more information. Anyone wishing to help us in our fight against discrimination and censorship can donate to it here:”

            That fucking bananas, but it’s your money. It’s your right not to care at all what it’s actually going to be used for. Most people would turn right around and wheel the hell out as fast as they can.

          • Jere Krischel

            I smile because I find you amusing :)

            I smile further because your bluster about “matching donations” actually encouraged more donations to the cause :)

            $1300+ and counting, since you first trolled :)

          • TtTreatise

            I encourage everyone willing to donate all their savings to HBR. Take a loan if you have to. Pile stacks on stacks.

          • Jere Krischel

            Lead by example, friend :)

          • TtTreatise

            I’m saving up to match, remember?

          • Jere Krischel

            So match yourself too :)

          • driversuz

            Keep trying, kid. You’ve already lost.

          • TtTreatise

            What was I playing ?

          • Jere Krischel

            You were playing “look, I’m going to talk smack about how I’ll fund, dollar for dollar, against this legal fund” :)

            Again, I’m suspicious that TtMonster is a false flag troll to encourage more donations :)

          • TtTreatise

            You got me.

          • driversuz

            “Troll Under the Bridge.”

          • TtTreatise

            Another sick burn. You guys are good.

          • Jere Krischel

            Thank you!

            I know if you try hard enough, you’ll be as good one day too :)

          • driversuz

            “…rambling screed as a sort of weird demand letter…”

            ^^^ Proof that you know nothing of the law, and have read few legal documents. Amateur.

          • driversuz

            Bullshit.
            But keep trying. The more publicity, the better. The Expo can ignore the HBB, but it can’t ignore a lawsuit.

          • TtTreatise

            There will be no lawsuit.

          • driversuz

            Baaaaaahahahahahahaha!
            *snork*
            Sure. Whatever you say. Bye, Troll.

          • Jere Krischel

            Certainly not if CalEx does the right thing and settles :)

          • TtTreatise

            Alright, time to stop stalking me around.

            We’ll revisit this in a couple weeks when this goes all Sarkeesian Effect. Or maybe not, MRA/GG seems to have a high tolerance for people taking their money. G’day.

          • Jere Krischel

            But you’re so cute :)

            As for your bluster about matching donations, pics or it didn’t happen :)

          • Jess

            Oh no! Look who bolted from the thread! Just so you know, we’re at $7,345 and counting. Better start putting for overtime at the peanut factory

        • http://rumcious.blogspot.com/ rumcious

          Expo permitted the booth under their own volition (it’s up to them to do due-diligence). They had several opportunities to revoke/had open channels of communication had there been issues. They didn’t, so the contract holds.

          But we’ll leave all that to real lawyers and those with experience in contract law, rather than the Internet.

        • arrow2010

          Wrong! Canada has Human Rights Law that can’t be violated due to “freedom of association” excuses.

          • TtTreatise

            Wat.

        • Daniel Minardi

          So, the Expo has the right to break an explicit contract because HBB may have broken an implicit contract?

          • http://rumcious.blogspot.com/ rumcious

            There is no spoon ;)

        • arcadius

          “break the implied contract”

          How did they break it? By participating in a discussion?

        • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

          The Expo is obligated to publish truthful rules that they actually stick to when they engage in commercial activities (like sell space to vendors for booths). To publish one set of rules and expel based on a different set of rules is not just poor behavior, it’s fraud under both common law and statute.

          Any implied contract is always overridden by the actual terms of a written contract. Implied contracts are for “handshake deals” in order to give some sort of structure to the adjudication when informal agreements go wrong.

          Expo is not obligated to be nice to people they disagree with (though that would be good business sense). This freedom does not allow them to defraud such people or endanger their safety or their property. On exit people need to be given sufficient notice to safely exit the premise. 10 minutes to breakdown a booth is simply not reasonable by anyone’s standard.

    • Len Firewood

      It’s clear your mouth is preceding your brain – more fool you.

      • TtTreatise

        Sure, shovel money at these hucksters. That’ll show nobody.

        • Len Firewood

          I will give you no guesses on what I think of your slanderous opinions – fool.

          • TtTreatise

            > I will give you no guesses on what I think of your slanderous opinions – fool.

            Slander is oral defamation, so you probably mean “libelous opinions” since we are communicated through a written medium.

            However, defamation only applies to matters of fact, not matters of opinion. Opinions can’t be defamatory by definition and to attempt to punish expressing opinions would obviously be an affront to the fundametal freedoms of speech and opinion.

            So….fool….right.

          • Len Firewood

            In which case you are welcome to express your fact free opinions and I will give them the weight they deserve ;)

          • TtTreatise

            Well, thus far we’ve only established that you don’t know what you’re talking about, as a point of fact.

          • Jere Krischel

            I think we’ve established that you’d prefer to use the strict legal usage of the word “slander”, and that your opinions are in fact, #factfree :)

          • TtTreatise

            Legal usage seems to matter after a post threatening to sue based on questionable understanding of legal principles.

          • Jere Krischel

            Sure, but since you’re not a party to the legal action being proposed, surely you don’t consider ever statement here in response to you something that must be held to legal standards…do you? :)

          • TtTreatise

            When someone’s only response is to call me a fool, I think it’s worth pointing out their lack of intellectual standing.

          • Jere Krischel

            The way you point that out is to call it what it was – an ad hominem attack. Attacking their common use of a word is actually a less effective tactic. While you gain intellectual standing in the eyes of those who are pedantic, you miss calling out the *real* issue you had – which was being called a fool.

            Now, you may or may not be a fool, but you certainly seem more interested in arguing than actually arguing a point :)

          • eLdritchD

            oooh so that’s how it works. It’s fine to talk shit about other people as long as it is not a matter of fact but of opinion. That’s great.

            You’re a brainwashed, left wing lunatic who beats animals and eats cadavres and it’s shameful!

            See? just a harmless opinion.

            wow. your version of free speech is awesome. I can speak ill of anyone without being liable. I shall take to twitter to use this new found knowledge :P

          • TtTreatise

            No, you made a statement of fact. I either did or did not beat animals or eat cadavers. There is no opinion on whether those acts happened. That’s what facts are.

            You can of course think I’m crazy, which is your right to an opinion.

          • Jere Krischel

            It is my opinion, that given the chance, you would beat animals and eat cadavers.

            If you *haven’t* done so, obviously, it’s only because you lacked the opportunity :)

          • TtTreatise

            Ok, good talk.

          • Jere Krischel

            Wait, I thought we were writing, not talking :)

            Something about slander versus libel…?

          • eLdritchD

            oh I know it’s a statement of fact but you apparently don’t as evidenced by your first post in which you claimed this:

            ” …to defend against your deceitful and scurrilous claims. It’s shameless how you attempt to deceive people and whine about being victimized as women whilst shaming feminists as “damseling”. …”

            You stated this as fact without any evidence that it indeed is a fact which makes it defamation by YOUR definition.

            and yes. I was trying to trick you. Thanks for complying :D

          • Len Firewood

            You still here? Well since you are obsessed with whining in here – I don’t need to know jack shit about legal niceties – that’s not my job bozo.

          • Jere Krischel

            Well, in *legal* terms slander is spoken defamation, but in common use, it’s often a synonym for defamation itself:

            http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/slander

            I must say, though, I think it might help to clearly indicate your opinions are indeed #factfree :)

    • michaelbarrett92

      So far the only person we know has been dishonest about this is the person who runs the Calgary twitter account, and I guess whoever wrote that MS article but them lying about something is hardly news. I’m sure they are just victims though. Victims in desperate need of your money to defend themselves from this evil woman who is totally a terrible person because well, you said so. ;)

    • John Cobalt

      You’re going to be poor.

    • Andrejovich Dietrich

      There is audio of what happened.

    • Mike Larrazzo

      Please match my $100 in my name.

    • Anita

      You’d have to be employed to afford donations to anyone for anything and your type is likely too busy curled up in the fetal position in their childhood bedroom under mommy and daddy’s roof while you complain about how harsh and unfair the world is and spend your day retweeting inane crap.

  • ArsCortica

    This is one of these situations where the outcome will either be absolutely fantastic or absurdly bad. I’m hoping for the former.

  • Sealion #2484

    Sic sempur tyrannis.

  • jhkrischel

    Dropped a benjamin to support the cause – please don’t accept any settlement that doesn’t include both a refund, an explicit written apology, and a discount on future booths for the HBB :)

    • Len Firewood

      More than two thousand dollars in the first two hours! TTrash or whatever it calls itself is going to have to dig very deep in the next 29 days ;)

  • Scott Barker

    I was considering going to the Denver Comic Con this year, but I was concerned with their rules so I asked them to clarify their anti harassment stance. They said “harassment is defined by the harassed”. I then asked if I could wear a Gamergate shirt and they said : “This falls under our “custom” rules as “hateful symbols aren’t welcome at Denver Comic Con” And their latest clarification, (this is on twitter) “If someone feels they have been harassed it is harassment.”

    • jhkrischel

      Tell them you feel like their response harassed you :)

      Or tell them that you consider their use of the word “Con” hateful towards convicts who are labeled with that derogatory term :)

    • Don Quixote

      I’d steer well clear of that kind of crazy, even if you keep your head down and play nice it sounds like its false accusations waiting to happen for some poor sod.

      • Jere Krischel

        By the “if someone feels” standard of proof, there is no such thing as a false accusation…at least not until we can read minds :)

    • Ray Vallee

      You should probably skip this con.

    • DirkBelig

      >”If someone feels they have been harassed it is harassment.”

      Them it’s long past time for the SJWs to taste the pain of being forced to abide by Alinsky’s Rules For Radicals Rule #4: Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.” If the rule is that every letter gets a reply, send 30,000 letters. You can kill them with this because no one can possibly obey all of their own rules. (This is a serious rule. The besieged entity’s very credibility and reputation is at stake, because if activists catch it lying or not living up to its commitments, they can continue to chip away at the
      damage.
      )

      By hammering them with claims that our feels are being hurt, then they’re either going to have to throw everyone out OR stop being the puppets of the SJW bullies or become thoroughly exposed hypocrites in how they operate and suffer the loss of business being aggressively anti-fan deserves.

      Unfortunately, the majority of con goers will still go because they don’t care about what the SJWs are doing; they just want to have nerd fun.

      • Gwarh

        DirkBelig thanks for mentioning “Rules for Radicals”. This should be required reading for anyone fighting against Femnunists and SJW’s.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals

        • DirkBelig

          It’s been the Left’s handbook for over 40 years, but lately sane folks have realized that the tactics it espouses are just as useful for good causes and are using them. Of course, the Left is howling with outrage over their own playbook being used by the other team against them, but wah. Live by the Rules, get a taste of the Rules in return. They started it, so turnabout is more than fair play.

          • Leibfarce

            It’s not the fucking left. Stop the false dichotomy bullshit. In the great horseshoe, all are the same.

          • DirkBelig

            What brand tinfoil is your hat made of? I can always tell when someone is a liberal who can’t cope with the fact they’re just a couple steps shy of where the authoritarian SJWs are because they whine about how GamerGate et al aren’t Left vs Right issues when that’s precisely what they are.

            SJWs are 99.44% Leftists which is why their bully tactics are given full media support and any opposition is falsely labeled “right-wing.” Surveys and simple observation show that most GamerGate people consider themselves liberals and they frequent use slurs to describe the non-liberal people who oppose the SJWs fascist tactics even though they’re their allies despite having different political views.

            Meanwhile, the radical authoritarian Leftists who drive the SJW agenda and how it’s portrayed in the media pretend they’re just rational moderate folks and it’s them crazies at the ends of the horseshoe that are the problem. Yeah, no.

          • Leibfarce

            Oh god, you are just addicted to that left/right shit, arne’t you?

            No, I’m not a liberal, and I am most CERTAINLY not an SJW. I’m friends with Janet Bloomfield for fucks sake.

            What’s YOUR tinfoil hat made of? You can come on here and claim you don’t use the same tactics – but you do. It’s all underhanded, Fox News-esque wordplay.

            YOU are the reason they use slurs.

            Meanwhile, the people in charge don’t really adhere to any one political ideology except the almighty dollar, and we’re left here bickering between each other like spoiled children over their scraps.

            Stop it.

          • DirkBelig

            Blah-blah-woof-woof. When you scream “Fox News” as if it’s an all-purpose mic drop putdown, it reveals who the puppet who imagines he has no strings.

            That you are directing fire at someone who is opposed to the SJWs makes you a useful idiot to the SJWs, Bub. Take your paranoid Ron Paul/Alex Jones blather and tone policing and get stuffed. The reason you’re peddling horseshoes is because you imagine yourself to be on one side when you’re actually on the other and by projecting this cognitive dissonance on others you hope to silence the voices in your head.

          • Jordan Bassior

            YOU are the reason they use slurs.

            Why do you use slurs, then?

            Meanwhile, the people in charge don’t really adhere to any one political
            ideology except the almighty dollar, and we’re left here bickering
            between each other like spoiled children over their scraps

            Of which “people in charge” do you speak?

          • Leibfarce

            In short, I don’t fall into any bullshit paradigm, and I don’t believe someone’s political leanings lead them to feminism, or caused feminism to become as horribly toxic as it is.

            You misrepresent the situation and therefore make discussion on the topic that much more difficult.

          • DirkBelig

            Reality doesn’t care about your feels, Bub. Whining about paradigms and dichotomies is the antics of someone who can’t cope with the way things are because they’re too busy demanding that his feels not be ruffled. Waaaah!

          • Dr Why

            “It’s not the fucking left.”
            Why do people just say wrong things like this? Censorship is a defining quality of lefties. Have you ever seen a conservative censor anyone’s beliefs? I admit, we do avoid people’s subhuman language.

      • Elvick

        They’ll care when the SJW target them for “triggering” their twitter PSTD by cosplaying as a character who was in an avatar of someone who called them stupid.

      • SDN

        Maybe someone ought to point out that as a “public event” they might get sued for discrimination, just like the bakeries.

    • Person Person

      Are the colors green and purple considered harassment?

      • Somchai

        Yes, and I find mauve to be particularly distressing. BAN THE MAUVE !!

    • http://www.asplint.com/ Jeffrey Deutsch

      Oh yes, going back decades I’ve been told that very same thing, more or less word for word, by decision-makers about the “definition” of harassment.

      *sigh*

      We’ve got to roll back this crap.

    • B Rex

      I saw that tweet. The mask on their avatar was triggering and made me think of being mugged in an alley. This made me feel harassed and i expect the Denver Comic Con to be expelled from the Denver Comic Con

    • Mr. Fever Head

      Fight fire with fire. Close down anyone you don’t like by claiming harassment. The claim makes the crime true apparently.

    • Elvick

      I tweeted them that their tweet made me feel harassed, and for them to stop harassing me. While pointing out how ridiculous that is directly, in case they are that thick… and that is certainly possible since they think “if someone feels harassed, it is harassment” make sense.

    • MrSonicAdvance

      Here’s their tweet.

      • Jordan Bassior

        Ah, so the Denver Comic Con is announcing that it will randomly eject vendors and congoers as well. This reduces the value of renting a booth or buying admission, then.

  • Elilla Shadowheart

    And so you should. If you haven’t looked at the AB human rights code, I strongly suggest you do. You may also fall into that category as well.

    http://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/complaints/forms/complaint_form_and_guide.asp

  • scbritton

    This conservative, right-wing, pro-free enterprise, pro-liberty and pro-free speech Calgarian who got screwed over by the Calgary Expo last year just contributed $25 to the fund.

    TtTreatise doesn’t know what (s)he’s talking about – if a contract clause is illegal, then it is disregarded by the court, regardless of whether the parties in the dispute signed the contract. It is very unlikely that the Expo’s contract term which states they may enforce any policy in any way they see fit, whether it appears in the policy document or not, would stand up in court, because, with that clause in place, the contract isn’t worth the paper it’s written on.

    HBB’s expulsion is nothing new for the Expo. They did it to me last year. As a volunteer, I didn’t have many legal options, but, since HBB was a vendor at the show and was expecting a return on investment, if I were in their shoes, I wouldn’t just be going to a refund of the convention fees, but also for lost sales (ten years’ worth), as well as punitive damages – because this shows malice and intent on the part of the Expo.

    • John Cobalt

      You’re absolutely correct.

      There is money to be made on this suit.

      • Jesus_marley

        While monetary compensation is certainly a *part* of a just settlement in this case, that should not be the sole or primary motivation. Alison and the entire HBB were wronged by the unconscionable actions of Calgary Expo. A finding of wrong doing on the part of Calgary Expo will help to ensure that the HBB as well as other similar groups who refuse to pander to the prevailing Feminist narrative can enjoy the freedom to continue their participation in fandom freely and without fear of arbitrary retribution from intolerant and bigoted ideologues.

        • Aguy

          But a large award would make it more than a slap on the wrist.

    • driversuz

      My guess is that he’s trying to provoke someone to reveal confidential information, and his trolling is nothing more than a fishing expedition. He probably works for the Expo.

      • http://rumcious.blogspot.com/ rumcious

        That account was registered a couple of months back specifically to post what it does, and for the reaction it gets, on ‘pro-GG’ sites.

        • MrBK

          That’s because they’re terrified and confused. Members of a cult rarely understand the actions of free men and women … We’re supposed to Listen and Believe.

    • http://rumcious.blogspot.com/ rumcious

      It’d be worth getting in touch with HBB to see if the addition of your incident might be of help building a broader case.

    • Anita

      This silicon valley libertarian (socially liberal, fiscally conservative) atheist is happy to chip in. I’m sure that, retrospectively, I will feel much better about my contribution here than I do about the many months of Patreon contributions I made to Zoe Quinn before she went fucking ballistic online.

      • MrBK

        Fellow libertarian here … yeah I’m done waiting for this shit to sort itself out. Modern-day “feminism” is a trojan horse used by SJW’s to spread their fascist agenda. The hateful fucks are setting the liberal agenda back decades while claiming to be liberals. It’s perverse.

  • Whenindoubtdo

    All I’ll say is that even at this earlier juncture, you’ll want to have retained a lawyer just to inform your strategy.

    Hopefully that letter that you sent, was looked over by one!

  • randomactor
    • arcadius

      What is that supposed to show?

      • Gwarh

        At the very least it shows TtTeatise is a busy little squirrel as it is almost for sure the same treat posting in the “Kotaku in Actioi” thread.

        • arcadius

          Right, so it doesn’t show anyone getting defrauded then…

          • driversuz

            Nah, it just shows an idiot troll.

    • Mike Larrazzo

      HAHA.

      I’ve been so thoroughly entertained and informed by the HoneyBadgers over the past couple years that I can contribute on that basis alone.

      But I hope they use my money to mop the floor with SJWs.

  • Jordan Romaker

    If I had any money to my name at all, I’d send it your way. But I’ll support the cause in whatever other way I can.

  • Victor_Gallagher

    And so it begins

  • Chocho en lata

    “We don´t know what we are gonna do, but please, send us money just in case”. God, sure “Memories Pizza” has created a trend…

    • http://www.asplint.com/ Jeffrey Deutsch

      Chocho en lata, Honey Badger has made quite clear what they will do: Take legal action for redress. What they don’t know, as Ms. Tieman explained, is exactly how much it will cost. Legal cases tend to be like that.

      (So do wars, for much the same reasons.)

    • driversuz

      Oh look, another troll.
      Yawn.

      • Victor_Gallagher

        I find the quantity of trolls popping up over here very suspicious.

        • driversuz

          They have good reason to want to discourage and intimidate. Either that or they’re PigTOW, trying to borrow a cup of relevance.

          • Andrejovich Dietrich

            You mean like “harassing”?

          • MrDamage

            I’m feeling pretty harassed right now, so yeah.

    • http://rumcious.blogspot.com/ rumcious

      …has created a trend…

      You mean like Wu?.. https://archive.is/nJL6m

    • Anita

      What do a bunch of right wing bigots sending money to a right wing bigot pizza parlor that discriminates against its customers have to fucking do with helping fund a bunch of geek girls looking to take possible legal action to prevent future censorship at events?!

      I guess you only support giving money to wealthy adults from wealthy parents who whine on twitter about people on twitter being mean to them on twitter so they can pay their rent?

      • Heinleinslostson

        I’m so sorry, Anita, but Memories Pizza did NOT discriminate against its customers. The pizzeria happily served all clientele. On a hypothetical question regarding being asked to serve a Gay wedding pizza they replied it was against their religious beliefs to do so. This is what opened them to the the floodgates of vandalism, hate, death threats, and a nearby Loud and Proud lesbian high school coach “who wants to join me in burning them down”. I would tender the proposition that if you were to meet most of those who supported Memories Pizza gfm even you might agree they were not bigots.

    • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

      Wow, you’ve come to the party late. This is standard for a lawfare campaign and something that’s been around since at least the 1970s. Both left and right do this and it’s very much a generic, non-ideological trend at this point.

    • Jordan Bassior

      Looks to me as if the Calgary Expo is going to be sending the Honey Badgers money before this is all over. And taking a big hit to their reputation, as the Expo is publicly demonstrating its contractual unreliability — buying a booth does not mean that one will be provided its use for the convention, nor the safety of one’s goods displayed there — one may apparently be ejected at the random whim of the convention.

      • Chocho en lata

        I think Calgary Expo has already forgotten about this, as everybody else. Also, many other Expos are taking the same route not allowing hate groups propaganda.

  • Daniel Baines

    I have no money. But I have written to the Expo’s sponsors. So I’m actively involved still! :)

  • Darth Jader

    I’ll be donating $50 sometime tomorrow, at the same time as I order a couple shirts (the one with the gg logo).

  • Aslan Pen

    So when you can’t find a lawyer that’ll take your case…what will you do with the money? LOL…Harper…lol

    • Andrejovich Dietrich

      This has got to be one of the stupidest spout offs I have ever heard.

      Since when have you heard of an attorney who wont take a case?

      • Aslan Pen

        When they know that there isn’t a case.

        • Andrejovich Dietrich

          And another stupid statement.

          Lawyers will take any case. You really haven’t lived in the real world much have you?

          • Aslan Pen

            Not any good ones. They won’t waste their time.

          • Andrejovich Dietrich

            No shortage of stupid statements from you is there?

            Their time is what is known as billable hours. That is how they make money. How do you figure it is a waste of their time?

          • driversuz

            He doesn’t “figure.” He trolls.

          • Andrejovich Dietrich

            I know. It is amusing to hear those who suffer from delusions of adequacy try to make a point.

        • driversuz

          You being an expert of course…

          • Darth Jader

            Aslan was trolling the fb comment threads for #Calex too, rather pathetically as he is here.

          • Aslan Pen

            *bows*

    • Darth Jader

      Ah aslan, still trolling like a pro I see….the only confusion I have, is what exactly do you get out of posting stupid comments without really baiting?

      • driversuz

        He thinks he’s baiting, but he’s not smart enough to know how.

    • Darth Jader

      Funny, I had a similar case 3 years ago, with even less evidence, in the end (after a 2.5 yr legal battle), the party I took legal action against settled out of court for 8x what they cost me, I wound up being compensated 5x what my estimated losses were…Iand had a weaker case than HBB.

  • Yobyaxes

    Yes! I’m glad to hear this news because I want the Calgary Expo to pay for what they did. As Raging Golden Eagle once said “NOW EAT LAWYERS BITCHES!”

  • badgers

    Sweet, so all the the crowding funding backers will get a refund?

    • Victor_Gallagher

      Oh Joy ! Yet another troll. I am anxious for what morsels of bullshit you plan on serving us with.

    • Jere Krischel

      That’s actually an interesting point – if indeed there is a massive settlement from CalEx for their egregious behavior, perhaps it should include payment, including penalties for pain and suffering, to the original crowd funding backers. :)

    • http://chicagoboyz.net/ TMLutas

      If the crowdfunding backers deserve a refund, then the backers also qualify as plaintiffs as they have clearly suffered damages. You didn’t really think that troll through, did you?

  • Chris

    How is it possible you can sign a contract with someone, when both parties to said contract are fully and openly knowing they are already in violation of terms of said contract before, during and after signing the contract? There has to be some onus upon the person who draws up the contract to agree the counter party is in compliance before accepting their money. If they want to eject the HBB after the fact then they should also agree they never should have accepted the $10,000 in the first place and return it. Otherwise provide a clear and convincing example of a violation of terms over and above anything expected of the counter party.

    I have a problem with the foundations of Patriarchy theory and Gender Studies. I was taught at a very young age that stereotyping people was both racism and faulty logic. My own observations when given a new stereotype presented so many exceptions to the rule that I always had to abandon the rule in short order. Yet Patriarchy theory and Gender Studies requires placing the entire human population into categories and subcategories that rigidly follow stereotypes, with strict rules of victimhood and privilege levels for each. This places Feminism and the whole social justice movement in lockstep with stereotyping, racism, sexism, favoritism, elitism, to say nothing of claiming authority over everybody else via mob rule.

  • MrSonicAdvance

    Happy to chip in for this much-deserving cause. Go badgers! :-)

  • Harland Ronning

    I was glad to see The Rebel do an interview with Alison. And they will keep on top of this.Also good to let Charles Adler know about this I will contribute to the Honey Badgers and certainly hope the Calgary Expo will respond decently but if not — then legal action is a must. I’ve already posted some on my FB page and will continue do so.

  • Kriffix

    The totalitarian nature of the Calgary expo, not to mention the intolerance towards dissent shared by their kind, has got to come to an end. It’s popular and very easy to just cave in to their kind as it usually has no long term negative effects, well enough is enough. Legal action is definitely the right way to go, their kind thinks they can get away with abusing human rights so long as it is the right ‘kind’ of human. Time to make an example of them and deter others from thinking it is OK to treat people this way.

  • http://noretus.tumblr.com/ Noretus Hapatus

    Best of luck to you!

  • Josh Bray

    Best of luck you all. Between this and what DenverCon said about #gamergate shirt wearers… I am very concerned about the increased politicization of fandoms and convention circuits. I wish I wasn’t broke to help with the legal fund, but I will help in anyways I can!

    Including continued coverage of this event as it develops. If situations like this amp up, I fear for our fandoms

  • gearbox123

    I hope the Calgary Expo gets a ton of bad publicity from this. Those wannabe Stalinists deserve a public roasting.

  • Jess

    Just out of curiosity, why do I need to write my address to pledge money to the HBB legal crowdfunding page?