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[–]Drudictai7-3770k, 32GB, R9 280X, ASUS Sabertooth Z77 3572 ポイント3573 ポイント  (580子コメント)

I'm seeing a lot of mods for sale on there not uploaded by the actual creator of the mod.... it's being abused already.

Edit: Hory shet. I did NOT expect 50+ PM's when I got home from work. I'm not answering all of them so instead, I'm specifically talking about the Midas magic "Gold edition", and I had though Wet and Cold was not from the author, but turns out he just had his name changed or I derped.

Edit2: Apparently they are called Comments, I got a fucking orange inbox thingy kay? Sleepy, sick, mentally exhausted guy can't the words.

[–]Rantehi5 4590 | GTX 970 | 8GB ram 2323 ポイント2324 ポイント  (397子コメント)

That is really really really not good

[–]dinklebobdinklebob 2046 ポイント2047 ポイント  (386子コメント)

Your emails are needed'

Seriously it takes NO EFFORT AT ALL. JUST FUCKING DO IT.

EDIT: Here's mine as an example. Don't copy-paste, you morons.

Due to Valve's decision to allow paying for mods, I will never buy another game on your service again until the policy is rescinded.

I have hundreds of games and thousands of hours logged.

This situation is unacceptable and I cannot even begin to express my disappointment in your company.

See? Doesn't need to be long and drawn out. You don't even need to make it so absolute. Just express yourself.

EDIT: To those asking which email to send it to, /u/Cola_Man18 has a couple of ideas. In my opinion, you literally can't go wrong. The more people at the company exposed to this, the better. Get it on all their minds. Get them talking about it at the water cooler.

This is the cancer killing games. Don't let it kill mods too.

EDIT2: We have a petition, I see. To me, petitions don't mean anything unless there's resolve and a voice behind it. Don't just be a statistic. If you respond to the petition, make sure you've already sent an email.

EDIT3: This might be the best email I've read yet (and I have been reading all your mails.) Keep up the good work guys! Remember that @steam_games is their Twitter handle. Make noise there!

[–]Jashin23Jashin 894 ポイント895 ポイント  (65子コメント)

Here is my email to Christen Coomer, who markets new Steam features.

"Dear Ms. Christen Coomer,

I've journeyed with your company and your games since Half-Life 1, I've been using Steam for 7 years now and I can't say how grateful I am for your tremendous contribution to PC gaming. I know how devoted you are to improve it and raise higher still its standards : it is because of this very dedication that I write to you about the new policy introduced today on Steam regarding modded content.

I'm not a market analyst, and I don't claim to know much about the underlying economic motivations that led Valve to allow mods to be sold on the workshop. Let me just state my perspective as a long-time gamer, avid user of mods, and consumer on the Steam platform : I think this is sending a wrong message.

We PC gamers stand apart from the rest of the gaming world thanks to our ability to tailor our experience to our needs and desires. This exists thanks to the dedication of hundreds of people who took upon themselves to develop new content for the games we love. Most modders did this as an act of goodwill as well as a way for them to improve their abilities, some pursuing their dreams of eventually making a fully-fledged game : donation has always been the counterpart of this goodwill.

Yet your company has decided to introduce a dangerous precedent in the world of modding, and I sincerely fear and think this is a Pandora's box for PC gaming. Among the many reasons, the most obvious that comes to mind is that mods differ from official content in that a mod does not always work properly. This means that your company intends to make profit over software that is not guaranteed to work. For a majority of people, paid content is associated with official content and implies reliability. Blurring this boundary will result in a confusion between official DLC and modded content.

You are also single-handedly trying to change the goodwill atmosphere that has always defined the modding community. In these conditions, who would want to continue developping free content when paid content is encouraged by such a major platform as Steam ? Quality will be harder to assess (as a matter of fact Steam already disabled comments on these mods), there will be scams, incomplete and barebones mods, and your decision will be changing the face of modding as a whole. Your policy is doing a major disservice to honest modders, since they will be lost in the sea of cash-grabbers and scammers : not to mention that taking a 75% cut on software you do not make can hardly be referred to as "helping the creators of content".

For all these reasons, I cannot continue to be a customer on Steam. This new policy hurts your company in my eyes, and I do not wish to fund it. I will not buy any game, DLC, mod on Steam as long as that policy is active. I thank you for the 7 years, but if this is where you want to take Steam and PC gaming, we must part ways now."

EDIT : thanks a lot for the gold anonymous brother. I hope this visibility will inspire many emails to the people in charge at Valve so we can change their stance for the better.

[–]dinklebobdinklebob 188 ポイント189 ポイント  (26子コメント)

Holy shit....

That is a great email. For real.

[–]Jashin23Jashin 105 ポイント106 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Thanks brother. I tried to avoid mistakes since I'm not a native speaker. It was hard for me to write it, because Valve means much to me as a gamer, as it does for many people here I think. I hope they reconsider. But I fear they won't.

[–]fattymcribwichi7-4970K, GTX 970, 2TBHDD, 124GB SSD, 8GB RAM 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (2子コメント)

You did a great job dude, both with your English and the message.

[–]superjames_16 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hmm this is a good email, you should charge for us to copy and send it.

seriously tho thanks for the inspiration; I'm going to write one now.

[–]Cola_Man18i7 2600 | ATI Radeon HD 5770 | 8GB RAM | 1.5 TB HDD | 223 GB SSD 175 ポイント176 ポイント  (23子コメント)

If you're going to send an e-mail, I recommend looking at the VALVe Employee Roster and find someone other than Gabe to send it to, specifically one of the people who work on Steam. (not steam support)

I personally recommend Christen Coomer or Dan Berger

[–]flawless_flawSteam ID Here 183 ポイント184 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Dear beloved, we have gathered here today to press F to pay respects to Christen Coomer's and Dan Berger's inbox folders.

[–]Macatlashttp://steamcommunity.com/id/macatlas 431 ポイント432 ポイント  (54子コメント)

Emailed this directly to Mr. Newell:

Gabe,

I have been extremely satisfied with Valve's Steam service, and it is the backbone of modern-day PC gaming. It is a versatile, functional service that gives us control over our games and allows us to avoid the cash-driven features of consoles such as the Xbox One and PS4.

Unfortunately, this is no longer true with the inclusion of Purchasable Mods in the Steam Workshop. Now, not only are large AAA Companies going to charge money for miniscule additions to their games, but USERS are now going to limit access to user-created content which will drive out the joy of user-oriented customization.

Games have several different builds and some mods are not even compatible without making huge changes to the core game. Part of the reason that AAA Companies can get away with charging for their DLCs/Add-ons is due to support. If a DLC doesn't work correctly, it is the company's job to fix it. If a mod doesn't work, an end-user is not obligated to do anything but say 'sorry' and we'll be out of the money spent.

I am extremely disappointed with this business decision and will be purchasing games through Origin if Valve continues to implement features like this in their products. Many of us purchased games on Steam specifically because of the versatility regarding modding and ease-of installation for user-created content. This is now eliminated and there is no reason to choose Steam as opposed to other platforms.

Thank you for taking me along Steam's journey thus far - I hope this is remedied so we may continue this journey in good faith.

[–]LiquidAurumi5 3570K, 7850 2GB 89 ポイント90 ポイント  (10子コメント)

send it straight to gaben

[–]_Piggy_Specs/Imgur Here[S] 531 ポイント532 ポイント  (59子コメント)

Is there even a way to combat this seeing that you cant really claim infringement on a mod

[–]Drudictai7-3770k, 32GB, R9 280X, ASUS Sabertooth Z77 360 ポイント361 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Other than link the original, no. I'll be notifying a few modders when I get home though.

[–]AlonzoCarlo 329 ポイント330 ポイント  (4子コメント)

wow all this sounds so unprofessional and seems like it has been made in a rush

[–]AllShallFearsteamcommunity.com/id/GhettoSmaug/ 214 ポイント215 ポイント  (29子コメント)

The original Author can use a DMCA takedown notice, but I'm sure that's gonna be a long and dragged out process.

[–]Jonbo298Jonbo298 245 ポイント246 ポイント  (24子コメント)

When someone is profiting off your work, a DMCA takedown is the easiest thing to do in this situation. Valve will respond.

[–]somerandomguy02 73 ポイント74 ポイント  (9子コメント)

I don't see why you can't claim infringement on a mod...? It's your code.

[–]tugate 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (2子コメント)

And for a lot of them, it's also your art. It is definitely infringement, whether the original was available for free or not.

Also, some of these mods may themselves be infringing... for example the Sange/Yasha swords. As free mods they wouldn't be much different from fan art or something, as marketed products that is not the case at all.

[–]TheSnailpower( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 401 ポイント402 ポイント  (59子コメント)

Who's up for a goddamn petition for this horseshit

[–]SirAplehttp://steamcommunity.com/id/AelasLeather 136 ポイント137 ポイント  (53子コメント)

I't im in, cause this is bullshit, good thing i use nexus.

[–]HumanFogMachin3 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (32子コメント)

good thing i use nexus.

Unfortunately i see this as valve's way of taking traffic away from nexus.

[–]vgrezende 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (1子コメント)

If Steam want to make this work, that should be their priority right now.

[–]FatbaticusSLi GTX 780 | i5 4670k | 8gb DDR3 2069 ポイント2070 ポイント  (105子コメント)

This is not good news at all, main reason I love PC gaming is the modding community along with heaps of free content.

[–]Ohbliveeun_Mooveei5 3570K + GTX660ti 1066 ポイント1067 ポイント  (79子コメント)

Valve/Steam is pretty infamous for being far too powerful. Modders won't dream of uploading their work anywhere else but the workshop to secure those sweet, sweet shekels. So now Valve is trying to monopolize the PC community too.

Any money you send towards this scheme is undoubtedly harmful to the freedom that separates us from Consoles. Games industry, hurry up and crash already!

[–]questionable-sourcei5 4960s dual Asus 780Ti 16gb 497 ポイント498 ポイント  (44子コメント)

Yup. Like most people I'm not going to get mods from steam anymore. I'm sticking to nexus

[–]SummitTechEnterprisei7 4790k, 8gb ddr3, r7 260x, 512 gb ssd 128 ポイント129 ポイント  (6子コメント)

I agree 100%

This is not good news. How likely is it for Valve to rescind this program?

[–]MasenkoeYou expected specs, but it was me, DIO! 101 ポイント102 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Probably not likely, but we have the opportunity to be very vocal about this. Speak up and you have a say in things!

[–]pcgameggod 991 ポイント992 ポイント  (46子コメント)

Buy mods

Game gets random update

Mods don't work

gj guys

[–]Uncleted626 386 ポイント387 ポイント  (27子コメント)

Paid updates next. Bugfixes aren't free!

[–]pcgameggod 106 ポイント107 ポイント  (12子コメント)

You joke, but there is a durability bug in dark souls 2 that is only getting fixed in a newer paid version of the game.

Its not even getting fixes on the dx9/360/ps3 versions.

[–]Skie_Killeri5 4460/GTX 970 Palit Jetstream 2820 ポイント2821 ポイント  (219子コメント)

4chan does make a good point.

This is OBSCENELY RETARDED.

WHAT IF THE MOD UPDATES AND BECOMES INCOMPATIBLE WITH MY SHIT WHAT IF THE GAME UPDATES AND BECOMES INCOMPATIBLE WHAT IF THE MOD TURNS OUT TO BE NOT WHAT I EXPECTED

BUYING MODS WOULD BE ALMOST AKIN TO GAMBLING. YOU'D BE TAKING AN IMMENSE LEAP OF FAITH JUST TO GET FUTA COCKS IN YOUR GAME

THE MODDER IS UNDER ---NO--- OBLIGATION TO FIX HIS SHIT OR MAKING COMPATIBLE WITH YOUR OTHER MODS.

RE TAR DED

[–]ThePointedSteam ID Here 802 ポイント803 ポイント  (39子コメント)

Next up, Greenlight for Mods. "I've got this great idea for new particle effects, I just need your support!"

[–]Apkoha 586 ポイント587 ポイント  (33子コメント)

oh man I can't wait!! Early access mods!!

[–]Rotten_ChesterIntel Q6700 - 8GB DDR2 - EVGA 750 Ti FTW 600 ポイント601 ポイント  (28子コメント)

I hate to break it to you, but check out the "Art of the Catch" mod description.

I'll even save you the time of going there yourself:

Art of the Catch is early in development, however the fishing mechanic is fully functional. Because of this, it is currently being offered at an Early Bird Introductory Price. The suggested and minimum price will increase as additional features are added, including:

More fish! More animations! Fishing Journal! Mountable fish trophies! Fishing quests!

Sound familiar?

[–]dinklebobdinklebob 462 ポイント463 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Kill me, please.

[–]DovakhbearFuck you Gabe 148 ポイント149 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This game does not have a suicide button. Would like to buy a community mod that adds it for 99.99$?

[–]Super_Manic 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Buy that mod and i'll kill you myself.

[–]Pandemis 1108 ポイント1109 ポイント  (78子コメント)

4chan can be very very very good at hitting the nail right on the head.

[–]somepersononthewebI'm out Volvo 613 ポイント614 ポイント  (67子コメント)

4chan is the anonymous web... when people don't give a shit about appearances or who said what, a lot of shit gets sorted through.

The crazies that take advantage of it's free speech give it a bad name, but everyone else is usually great at explaining situations.

[–]NDWolfwood5268 344 ポイント345 ポイント  (57子コメント)

That's why I love 4chan. It's humans speaking their minds free of fear. You see what kind of people they are when no one is actually looking. I find they're actually pretty nice, if blunt and crude, and often speak truer than many analysts or journalists.

[–]coffedrank 148 ポイント149 ポイント  (21子コメント)

Yep. Places like 4chan is where people are who they truly are, without karmawhoring and shitty usernames people attribute a reputation to.

[–]CompulsiveMinmaxing 230 ポイント231 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Think of the children futa cocks!

[–]HereticalnerdManwithoutplan 117 ポイント118 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I can't stop thinking about the Futa cocks!

[–]CRBASF23 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (16子コメント)

TRUTH, also wouldn't this cause legal issues with Bethesda? Who are the owners of the base game and the tool that modders have used to create these mods? Has Valve thought about any of this before doing this?

[–]pyrodonkeyProject Refresh Master Race 190 ポイント191 ポイント  (12子コメント)

I could just imagine this in other games. Imagine if the original Dark Souls charged for mods and everyone had to pay to use DSFix. Or even if we all had to pay to use SkyUI, a mod that makes the UI in the game much more PC friendly. It would suck pretty bad.

I honestly think it would be much better if Valve had a support option where people could donate to the mod creator. People who want to pay will, and people who don't want to pay could enjoy their mod.

[–]ValannorSteam ID Here 1191 ポイント1192 ポイント  (24子コメント)

They are not mods this way, they are fan made DLCs and micro transactions. Also a terrible idea, we need to be able to donate instead.

[–]1080Pizza 392 ポイント393 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Modders on Nexus can choose to allow donations for their work.

Nexus is the only site where you should be downloading Skyrim mods anyway because the Workshop is terrible with its automatic updates.

It really sucks if we're going to get Workshop exclusive mods because I don't want to deal with automatic unexpected mod updates breaking my game. A complex Skyrim mod installation is a fragile thing.

I get that it's very useful from a feedback/bug report standpoint to be sure that all users of your mod are using the same version, but an option to turn this off would be very useful. I've been modding Bethesda games for over 10 years, I know what I'm doing.

[–]sectionizerWAKE ME UP INSIDE 102 ポイント103 ポイント  (3子コメント)

If it doesn't crash and give you a hard time for 3 hours when you first launch it, you ain't modded it enough yet.

[–]_Piggy_Specs/Imgur Here[S] 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Yeah I was thinking that as soon as I read it. This pay wall will just cause mods ,which otherwise would have been popular, to be unplayed

[–]instructi0ns_uncleari5 2500k + HD7970 1864 ポイント1865 ポイント  (81子コメント)

now I have to pirate fucking mods. RIP

[–]OldManWafflez 300 ポイント301 ポイント  (31子コメント)

Valve taking 75% rofl, where is the guy with the gabe newell bedsheets? I want his thoughts on this.

[–]Stalin_GraduateHMS Vengeance 135 ポイント136 ポイント  (24子コメント)

Wtf 75%? Are you sure? That's friggin highway robbery. 75% tax for hosting a mod? What moron would agree to that?

[–]OldManWafflez 166 ポイント167 ポイント  (20子コメント)

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/workshoppaymentinfofaq/

There also don't get any money until they have made 100 bucks, which means the mod has to make 400 before they see a dime.

[–]Stalin_GraduateHMS Vengeance 122 ポイント123 ポイント  (12子コメント)

LOL that's ridiculous, wow.

I think the gaming industry is due for a change.

[–]theroachsaysSpecs/Imgur Here 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (4子コメント)

It needs to crash and burn like it did before with the Atari ET game. Perhaps that is the final form of Gozer.

[–]gunnolfi5-4690K/GeForce GTX 980 580 ポイント581 ポイント  (25子コメント)

I've figured it out! We are seeing less and less content in games because they want US to make their games for them!

They will take a cut of course...

[–]ValannorSteam ID Here 129 ポイント130 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I think you are right, considering the mod bundle is more expensive than the game itself!

[–]Operoni 707 ポイント708 ポイント  (127子コメント)

Wtf, what even is this?

[–]BlackbeardsSonhampstamp 1383 ポイント1384 ポイント  (84子コメント)

This kills the master race

[–]SLiiDE101i7 4790k@4.6Ghz | GTX9704GB 3825 ポイント3826 ポイント  (433子コメント)

Why not just have a fucking donate button, This is a terrible idea.

Edit - What's even more disgusting is that Valve are taking 75%.

SEVENTY FIVE FUCKING PERCENT.

[–]pcpietjeisl750Ti | Amd Fx-4130 | 8 Gigs ram | 821 ポイント822 ポイント  (162子コメント)

Srsly, now everyone will make their shitty mods paid.

[–]EgoPhoenixPC Übermensch 525 ポイント526 ポイント  (117子コメント)

Indeed, all you'll see in the free mods category will be crap and the decent mods will be paying :/

This is a horrible idea :(

Edit: For the people that don't get it, look at your steam library. This affects EVERY game that has a Steam Workshop. Tabletop Simulator would have no value at all, since it mostly needs mods to be fun. What about Gary's Mod? Left4Dead? Games that cost around 30$ could cost up to 50-60$ with mods.

Edit edit: This whole discussion is DLC and Season Passes all over again... We all know how well that worked out, don't we?

Edit³: Why should a dev finish a game now? Just put it on Steam, let modders do the work for free and get paid anyway. Did anyone even think of that?

[–]Burrito_Supremes 845 ポイント846 ポイント  (84子コメント)

Now we have to pirate mods, why buy the game at all?

[–]zz_Steam ID Here Kappa 607 ポイント608 ポイント  (52子コメント)

Now we have to pirate mods

If this isn't the definition of "going full circle" I don't know what is

[–]Miniappolishttp://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198049555505/ 301 ポイント302 ポイント  (45子コメント)

You can't steal what is meant to be free.

[–]tom0902000irateblackman 229 ポイント230 ポイント  (21子コメント)

I hope the modders will boycott Gaben this time as it is a bad move for pc gaming.

[–]Rantehi5 4590 | GTX 970 | 8GB ram 1197 ポイント1198 ポイント  (54子コメント)

I agree

[–]motherfalckerIntel i5 4690K, MSI 280x 431 ポイント432 ポイント  (39子コメント)

Cause with "Donate", Valve and Bethesda don't receive their cut.

[–]TaintedSquirrelhttp://pcpartpicker.com/user/TaintedSquirrel/saved/xtKdnQ 249 ポイント250 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Why not? They could just take x% of all donations. Easy. It's the same way they're getting a cut from current sales.

[–]motherfalckerIntel i5 4690K, MSI 280x 151 ポイント152 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yeah, but Steam isn't the only middleman for Mods. I could go to, say, Nexus, or a modders personal site and donate and completely bypass Steam.

[–]DystopianFreakevlrd 124 ポイント125 ポイント  (4子コメント)

For many games, I could also buy the game directly from their site either DRM-free or on a different platform.

[–]Lussteri5-4570 3.2GHz, GTX-770 4gb, 8gb RAM 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Donate can still be cut between the maker and Valve/Bethesda. On twitch for example when you subscribe it splits the $5 to the streamer and to the twitch.

[–]ConanTheVagslayer 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I guess Valve wants a cut of those mod sales.

[–]IceciroNo PAYING for mods 145 ポイント146 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Valve gets a 75% 'cut'. It's more like they take all of the modder's work, sell it, and give them 1/4 as compensation.

Selling your dignity for a 25% cut is pretty low.

EDIT: Fair enough - Bethesda is probably also getting some of that 75% cut. But still. the idea that your goal is to 'help support creators' when you give them only a pittance, is ridiculous.

[–]RollinWithSageti5 4650k @4.6ghz/ 970 gtx @ 1500Mhz/ 16 GB Ram / 1TB 840 Evo SSD 18 ポイント19 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The percentage of Adjusted Gross Revenue that you are entitled to receive will be determined by the developer/publisher of the Application associated with the Workshop to which you have submitted your Contribution (“Publisher”), and will be described on the applicable Workshop page. http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/workshoplegalagreement/?appid=72850

Pretty sure Bethesda is taking a large part of that 75%

[–]much_goodPresident Nixon 161 ポイント162 ポイント  (19子コメント)

I'm not risking my money on little mods, I'd rather try it out then be like "this shit good" and donate. People would pay more if there was an optional donation button rather than a fixed price.

Also promotes functional mods over pretty mods if there isn't a price but a donation

[–]metaldragon199/id/MetalDragon>>imgur.com/a/2vnA4 366 ポイント367 ポイント  (52子コメント)

mods have a 24 hour refund policy

steam games no refund policy

ffs valve

COME ON GET YOUR SHIT TOGETHER

[–]xebbJonPon 205 ポイント206 ポイント  (33子コメント)

Buy a mod, save it on your PC, ask for refund. Profit.

[–]attackzac21Steam ID Here 176 ポイント177 ポイント  (19子コメント)

lol when mod makers begin making "demo versions" of mods

[–]Mick412 173 ポイント174 ポイント  (16子コメント)

Early access mods, oh god no.

[–]ObviousLobster| i5 4690k | GTX 980 | 83 ポイント84 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Early access mod demos! With DRM!

Jesus this industry is going to shit.

[–]Spysnakez 34 ポイント35 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Early access mod demos! With DRM!

11/10 - Kotaku

[–]almightybob1 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Already happened.

Art of the Catch is early in development, however the fishing mechanic is fully functional. Because of this, it is currently being offered at an Early Bird Introductory Price. The suggested and minimum price will increase as additional features are added, including:

More fish!
More animations!
Fishing Journal!
Mountable fish trophies!
Fishing quests!

And more, as development continues. Please give us your feedback; we'd love to know what you'd like to see! Who knows, your suggestion might just make it into the mod.

[–]KreskyNot actually a Mac Heathen, I just want some fabulous pink 89 ポイント90 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Inb4 mod use DRM now.

Inb4 a new "piracy vs modder DRM" war breaks out. Sweet jesus Valve, the fuck have you just done.

[–]P3X-639 87 ポイント88 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Yes but notice this great item in their QA: Q. What happens if a mod I bought breaks? A. Sometimes one mod may modify the same files as another mod, or a particular combination of mods may cause unexpected outcomes. If you find that mod has broken or is behaving unexpectedly, it is best to post politely on the Workshop item's page and let the mod author know the details of what you are seeing.

Notice how it says nothing about what happens if an author decides to tell you to take a leap? I'm assuming then it's time to use their regular no-refunds refund policy.

[–]M_Rams 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Yeah i'm sure people will try to fix those 100+ mods Skyrims (like mine) when they break.

[–]Mtax/id/Mtaxio 657 ポイント658 ポイント  (33子コメント)

Some facts:

-Mods that were free are now require paying for it. Genius.

-If you have skyrim via steam share, you CANNOT even download pay-what-you-want mods. Not even can pay fucking 1 cent - button is grayed out.

-Due to up thing I'll have my friends fucked up due to requests of paying 0,01€ for mods and uploading it to me

-Due to up again - This starts mod piracy (lol)

-Steam community has started to battle in comments with comments like "Fuck dlc", etc.

-Comments for paid mods were turned off 10 minutes ago. xDDDD

-Want an new fishing animations? Pay 4€

[–]sectionizerWAKE ME UP INSIDE 552 ポイント553 ポイント  (16子コメント)

-Comments for paid mods were turned off 10 minutes ago.

D A M A G E C O N T R O L

[–]KyphrosFX8350 | Corsair 16GB 1600MHz | R9 280 OC Sapphire 195 ポイント196 ポイント  (11子コメント)

Well they're not very good at it, because the rest of the internet is still pretty much exploding.

[–]BrainiEpicOn my old-ass laptop with K70 being the newest thing I have. 289 ポイント290 ポイント  (8子コメント)

[–]KyphrosFX8350 | Corsair 16GB 1600MHz | R9 280 OC Sapphire 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Haha, yeah. Exactly.

[–]RaepmanCX 600W, GTX 660 ti AMP! 2gb/8gb, Corsair 8gb Black Veng. 782 ポイント783 ポイント  (50子コメント)

GABEN BETRAYED US TO THE HERESY

ONLY GOG IS LEFT!

[–]Lasota poor GT640 owner ;_ ; 156 ポイント157 ポイント  (12子コメント)

AT LEAST GOG HAS HEROES III COMPLETE EDITION!

[–]NDWolfwood5268 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (8子コメント)

2016 Headline...

GOG has officially been sold to Ubisoft!

[–]pcpietjeisl750Ti | Amd Fx-4130 | 8 Gigs ram | 91 ポイント92 ポイント  (14子コメント)

BUT MY 200 GAMES THEN ?!?!?!???

[–]RaepmanCX 600W, GTX 660 ti AMP! 2gb/8gb, Corsair 8gb Black Veng. 190 ポイント191 ポイント  (10子コメント)

ITS ALL HERESY NOW BROTHER

GABEN SOLD HIS AND VALVE'S SOUL TO THE DARK GODS OF ZENIMAX

ONLY GOG AND CLASSIC GAMING IS LEFT

[–]KattzalosPhenom II 955BE@3.2GHz | Radeon R9 270x 169 ポイント170 ポイント  (8子コメント)

WE SET SAIL

TOWARDS THE PIRATE BAY

multiplayer is overrated anyway

[–]instructi0ns_uncleari5 2500k + HD7970 303 ポイント304 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Horse Armor - workshop edition

[–]SwedishWhale4670K, Strix R9 280 1121 ポイント1122 ポイント  (107子コメント)

I gotta get this off my chest - Valve aren't as great as this sub makes them out to be. Don't get me wrong, they've given us stuff like Half-life, Portal and Steam, which is great. But Valve's latest business moves have done nothing but harm the consumers and, in the case of CS:GO, their own games. They do everything they can to squeeze more money out of us (understandable, they DO need funding) but the way they do it is absolutely ridiculous. Not to mention that they could stop working as a whole and live off the money they've made from Dota and CS.

I know we practically worship Gabe Newell and Valve, but we can't leave them screw us over. We are a PC gaming community first and foremost, these people have to listen to us, we vote with our wallets. I'm not saying "boycott Steam, boys!", but we have to make our voice heard, we all know how bad Valve is at communicating.

[–]KyphrosFX8350 | Corsair 16GB 1600MHz | R9 280 OC Sapphire 640 ポイント641 ポイント  (36子コメント)

Yeah, I know. "You die a hero or live long enough to be the villain".

Seems like Valve lived for too long.

[–]EmpRebEmpReb 210 ポイント211 ポイント  (26子コメント)

Yup^ this pretty much makes them EA at this point if not worse because of the practical monopoly they have on the market.

[–]incognitopumai7-4790/GTX 980 162 ポイント163 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Yup^ this pretty much makes them EA

Older EA. At least newer EA has customer support that, so far (I've had to talk to them several times,) does not suck shit.

[–]maxout2142Boo 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I've had issues with people saying " I wish all my games were on steam" which translates to "I don't mind a monopoly because they aren't taking advantage of me yet.

[–]h0bb1tm1ndtr1xSpecs/Imgur Here 41 ポイント42 ポイント  (7子コメント)

Came here to say this. First it was micro transactions and superior shitty customer support. Then game skins, knives, and other goodies to Counter Strike:Cashing In. Now they want players to pay for mods?

Honestly, why do you people hail Gabe like he's some savior? He's just another business man.

You know who else has some awesome old school games from a decade ago? EA and Activision. Nothing is different here.

[–]KreskyNot actually a Mac Heathen, I just want some fabulous pink 153 ポイント154 ポイント  (10子コメント)

I know we practically worship Gabe Newell and Valve

I pray that "we" is decreasing as fast as possible. They've been going downhill for quite a while, but it seems like they finally kicked the wrong bucket for a large portion of people.

[–]BlackJesusKi5 3570k; 8 GB RAM; GTX 560ti 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Game is 4.99$ on sale.

A sword mod is 4.99$.

GG.

[–]fenrirdarkwolfchezmarine 267 ポイント268 ポイント  (15子コメント)

Is today the First of April and I didn't realize it?

[–]Periculous22i7 4790k | GTX 770 | 16GB | 840 Pro SSD 1TB WD blu 3TB WD black 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Yeah, If it was April 1st I would have called it the biggest April Fools of all time.

[–]xDialtone 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I can't do this, I currently run 500+ mods on Skyrim ALONE.

If each Mod cost 1 USD, I would be paying more than HALF A GRAND to run my game. Some mods cost 70+ USD for FULL CONTENT of said mod! THIS IS ABSURD.

Also, HOW ARE MOD AUTHORS selling mods with resources from other mods like SkyUI or some lioke FNIS (Chesko Mods). Did Chesko ask for permission from Nore in order to sell his Frostfall mod? According to threads he hasn't.

SKSE and SkyUI are under MIT copyright, so any mod that uses them can be resold.

Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction, including without limitation the rights to use, copy, modify, merge, publish, distribute, sublicense, and/or sell copies of the Software, and to permit persons to whom the Software is furnished to do so, subject to the following conditions:

The above copyright notice and this permission notice shall be included in all copies or substantial portions of the Software.

I already Pirate games I'm borderline on so I can test them, if this goes through I will personally stop using Steam and Pirate every game from now on or other sites. Will I have to forsake mods? Maybe, or the majority of us will now Pirate mods. Hear that Chesko (or other mod authors who read this)? I WILL pirate your mod or any other mod author who demands payment for their work. I'm not paying HUNDREDS in mods. I have donated plenty of money to mod authors over the years, but I will never be forced to pay.

Pirated games already almost always run better than games on Steam or use DRM, just like how Pirated movies cut out all the shit of advertisements or force you to watch until you hit the main menu.

God, this is complete shit. I can understand Author's wanting money, and plenty of people are willing to donate, but if every author was like this and charged money for all their mods, no one but the wealthiest will be able to buy them. THEY ALREADY GET ALMOST NO MONEY FROM SELLING MODS ON STEAM. They ONLY get 20% of the money and you don't get any of it unless you sell over 100$ worth. That means if you Sold a mod for 1$, only 20cents go to you, but you need to sell 500 (FIVE HUNDRED) of the mod in order to get the first payment.

Like I said at the top, it would cost me 500 USD MINIMUM if I bought every mod I used.

Many other authors have hundreds of resources available for free that will be abused and already talking about pulling there stuff down and removing permission for all their mods. I understand authors wanting to make money, but THIS IS NOT the way to do it.

This IS GOING to divide a community that was never divided by anything and fuck up PC gaming (not kill it, but fucking it up real bad). People are going to fight over who has rights to what resources in mods and add so much complexity to everything.

[–]ratchet3789GTX 680 | i5 2500k | 16 GB DDR3 | 4TB HDD | 253 ポイント254 ポイント  (15子コメント)

We really need to start saying no to this kind of junk. I feel that it is ridiculous, Early Access was a bad enough idea. Why not have a Donate button... why do we have to pay?

[–]CursedJonasi5 2500k 3.3 Ghz Quadcore, nVidia GTX 970 3.5 GB, 8 GB RAM 135 ポイント136 ポイント  (4子コメント)

There are even Early Access mods!

From the "Art of the Catch" page

Art of the Catch is early in development

[–]h0bb1tm1ndtr1xSpecs/Imgur Here 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The worst of both worlds...

[–]SnapLackOfTractioni5 3570k, HD7870 XT, 8GB 487 ポイント488 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Sorry, but are we going to continue the whole Lord Gaben bullshit?! Valve are great, yeah fuck that. This man, with his greed is going to destroy one of the things that makes us so much better than the consoles. I am not again paying for quality content, I am 100% for donations to modders that make great content, like the Black Mesa guys, or the people doing the Skyrim overhaul with new story, but asking money for them in order to legally acquire them is just not the right way.

And no TF2 hats and CS:GO skins are in no way the same, CS skins can be seen by others and meke you feel unique in a MP game, but Skyrim is SP. I understand that people want to make money on their creations and if companies like Bethesda wants to make more money on them, good, but this is not the way. This can turn into Early Access system of exploitation, a staff that can be done with zero effort 99 cents. But 99 cents on a skin makes somewhat of a sense, 99 cents staff is no better than horse armor.

[–]Vox_RThe Throne of the Gods is empty 235 ポイント236 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Sorry, but are we going to continue the whole Lord Gaben bullshit?!

It hurts, but it is true. We have been forsaken.

To quote Corypheus from Dragon Age: Inquisition:

... For I have seen the throne of the gods, and it was empty.

[–]hoy89i5-3570k, GTX 760 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (2子コメント)

99 cents on something that may be incompatible with your other mods, 99 cents wasted either way.

[–]GetSameSpecs/Imgur Here 63 ポイント64 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Valve isn't great, they've been a shitty company for years.

[–]FlappyPMROne Day. One day! 181 ポイント182 ポイント  (8子コメント)

I ain't paying shit for mods

I never have and never will.

[–]ObviousLobster| i5 4690k | GTX 980 | 39 ポイント40 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I thought my piracy days were behind me. I feel mod piracy will definitely be a real thing very very soon. Sigh.

[–]Magister_IngeniaAsus G751 - i7-4710HQ - 16GB DDR3 - GTX 980m 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's already begun over at /r/modpiracy

[–]TWPmercuryi7 4770k @4.9 |SLI 980 @1521 496 ポイント497 ポイント  (37子コメント)

Looking at some of the prices, it seems very much like a micro-transaction type setup. $0.99 for a staff? That's insane tbh. If every weapon I had in my game from mods was $1, it would cost more than the game at full price.

I think the only mods that should cost money are mods like Falskaar. And even that should only cost $1 in my opinion. How many people have Falskaar installed. Pretty much everyone I would imagine. That would be an amazing income for the creator, while not being unreasonable for someone to purchase.

EDIT: When I wrote this post I didn't realize steam was taking 75% of the money. That's absolutely absurd. Like TB said in his video, they didn't contribute anything to the product, so why are they taking such a massive share of the income? I think it should be split 25%/25% for steam and the game dev, and 50% for the modder.

I share the sentiment with many others of not wanting to pay for content that has traditionally been free, but I also understand some of the work those goes into some of the more complicated mods and I think it's unfair for the creators to get nothing for their hard work.

I'm still not sure where I stand on the subject though because i honestly can't see my self paying for mods in any situation.

[–]Magister_IngeniaAsus G751 - i7-4710HQ - 16GB DDR3 - GTX 980m 213 ポイント214 ポイント  (23子コメント)

I think the only mods that should cost money are mods like Falskaar.

And that would bring the issue of who gets paid, considering the amount of people who worked on Falskaar. I can see this ending with mods of that size no longer being made, because of money disputes.

[–]TheOmnisicient 210 ポイント211 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Mods are supposed to be done by volunteered fans who wants to add someting to the base game. if it turns into a frikkin business it will be a huge pile of shit. oh god i can see it already.

[–]Cepheus-Starhowl 145 ポイント146 ポイント  (20子コメント)

This... is not good.

Wet & Cold for $4.99? I downloaded it for free not two days ago.

What is this nonsense, and how do we stop it?

[–]hoy89i5-3570k, GTX 760 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (6子コメント)

We don't buy and we complain. Unfortunately there are people stupid enough to actually buy said mods who don't have the restraint to wait for a solution. Hence Valve doing this; they do it because people won't have the backbone to refuse and force it on people because they can.

[–]robbobthecorncob1 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (9子コメント)

This is a step backwards for PC gaming.

[–]teza789 112 ポイント113 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Don't some mods need SKSE? Doesn't that mean there will be mods sold that uses someone elses work? Bloody GG

[–]wywernwywern209 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Easy. Sell skse as a 20 dollar dlc. /s

[–]Chuck_Morris_SESpecs/Imgur Here 166 ポイント167 ポイント  (14子コメント)

Authors of mods get 25%, so 75% is shared between Steam, Bethesda and the Devil.

http://steamcommunity.com/workshop/about/?appid=72850#Earning

Yeah. Fuck you Steam.

[–]The_Real_Gilgongo 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Steam likely takes their standard 25-30% and the other 45-50% would go to the game publisher. The only reason a game publisher would agree to a system like this in the first place would be if they were getting the lion's share of the profits from it.

Edit: I see you edited your misleading comment. Disregard.

[–]Jalato_BoiSteam ID Here 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The ultimate betrayal. What fucking retard approved this?

[–]arceus927FX 6300 4.5 GHz | GTX 970 | 8GB 1600MHz | 840 EVO 120GB 129 ポイント130 ポイント  (6子コメント)

/u/GabeNewellBellevue What the fuck have you done?

[–]BlackbeardsSonhampstamp 1087 ポイント1088 ポイント  (79子コメント)

This is the worst fucking thing they could have ever done.

Valve just single handedly killed the PC Master Race.

"nooo, the mods will still be free at nexus!!!" No. Modders wont even upload their mods to Nexus anymore. Everyone will want some of that mod-money.

And the worst part? This is only the beginning.

What comes next? DRM on mods? Devs not even making full games because "modders will fix it/add content"?

And you just know that there will be retards who actually buy this shit too, putting the wheels of this shit machine in motion.

This is so fucking horrible.

I am furious.

[–]BlackbeardsSonhampstamp 340 ポイント341 ポイント  (11子コメント)

The next TES game (and after that other AAA titles will follow) will just be the construction kit and some assets.

Calling it now.

[–]pcpietjeisl750Ti | Amd Fx-4130 | 8 Gigs ram | 254 ポイント255 ポイント  (5子コメント)

not even assets, just a .txt file with nothing, "modders will fix it"

[–]XDSHENANNIGANZi5 4590 @3.3Ghz, G1 GTX970, cardboard box, 8gb of downloaded ram 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (1子コメント)

$59.99 for EA Battlefront 2 .txt document

$15.99 for access to a skybox!

[–]SimoHaloPC Master Race 93 ポイント94 ポイント  (22子コメント)

Only if people are dumb enough to give them money in the first place, if you don't give them money they will stop this.

[–]dinklebobdinklebob 152 ポイント153 ポイント  (6子コメント)

As much as I want people to be smart, one need look no farther than the state of launch day DLC to see just how fucked we really are.

[–]Pjb3005I5, 8 GB RAM, GTX 660 TI 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (4子コメント)

already way more than 200 $ has been spent on those mods already

this REALLY is just the beginning

[–]TiPSY112FX 6300, GTX 760 TwinFrozr Gaming OC, 8GB RAM, 2TBHDD 153 ポイント154 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Valve have been so fucking awful the past few years with steam right now i bet people will be abusing it by uploading mods they don't own. Here's the thing if you wish to give back to a mod creator simply donate to them and it's all good. This is getting out of hand. First problem is the terrible customer service secondly they don't curate the steam store and now they come up with this magnificent idea.....Good job Valve!

[–]gestubegestube 229 ポイント230 ポイント  (12子コメント)

Spam Valve. Tell them this is unacceptable.

Man fuck gaben. Fuck valve.

[–]BlueManGroup10http://steamcommunity.com/id/Aeasala/ 69 ポイント70 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Inb4 the GMod workshop is trashed with $20 FNaF saves

[–]ADAMPOKE111Can't handle CS:GO on lowest settings1024x768. #2poor4u 96 ポイント97 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I expected better from you Valve, why not just let us donate to the creators, rather than make the creator set a fucking price?

[–]JediDM99I Quit Steam! 123 ポイント124 ポイント  (9子コメント)

EMAIL VALVE.

Just do it. If you don't like this (which is pretty much a given), TELL THEM. We won't put up with this shit.

EMAIL VALVE.

[–]Thomas_HeatonGTX 660, Intel i5 4440k, Asus B85-Pro, 8GB Corsair RAM 236 ポイント237 ポイント  (24子コメント)

ValvEA anyone?

[–]fakhar362Core i9 9960x @ 23.976 GHz/ 512 GB DDR4 / Quad Sli 1080 Titans 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (1子コメント)

StEAm

[–]Saltyfish45Specs/Imgur Here 31 ポイント32 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is the worst move Valve has ever made.

[–]OnXanaxOrSomethingi7 4GHz -- GTX980 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Does every fucking thing in gaming need to squeeze every penny out of the consumer? Too much more of this and there will be another video game crash.

[–]TaintedSquirrelhttp://pcpartpicker.com/user/TaintedSquirrel/saved/xtKdnQ 440 ポイント441 ポイント  (26子コメント)

I know I'm jumping to conclusions and all, but this is the single worst thing to ever happen to PC gaming.

[–]pcgameggod 605 ポイント606 ポイント  (79子コメント)

Can i remind EVERYONE here that modders are going to come out and say "but i cant possibly create content without donations" which is bullshit

THey have been doing it for years, do not believe their lies, youtubers say the same thing and there was tons of content before monetisation.

edit: like someone said they could have just added a "donate" button, but nope paywalled.

[–]gunnolfi5-4690K/GeForce GTX 980 243 ポイント244 ポイント  (13子コメント)

Spot on, they're monetizing something that was a labor of love. Modders make their mods because well, they want to play these mods themselves. I'd be all for a "support this mod" donation option but when others are taking a cut and it is purely a profit based decision I think it's a little ridiculous.

[–]P3X-639 83 ポイント84 ポイント  (4子コメント)

That's the thing. I've donated to the Ultimate Apocalypse mod, but I did it because I wanted to support THEM! Because the mod was so good. Not for Steam to take a slice out. And if it's anything like the DotA2 items, they eat the lions share of the purchase. No. Just fucking no. Even if in principle I wanted to help out the modders, I'm not doing it though this shit.

*Edit. I didn't mean in if in principle i wanted to help out the modders as a general statement. Read it as, I really like what these guys and gals have done and I'd want to help them.

[–]zb0t1Specs/Imgur Here 190 ポイント191 ポイント  (11子コメント)

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[–]Syniti7-4790K 4.8Ghz | GTX 780Ti 3GB | HyperX Fury 16Gb 78 ポイント79 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Apparently this gets you a 1 week community ban. Just FYI. Just received mine :P

[–]grtwatkinsSpecs/Imgur Here 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Let em ban everyone, fewer people would want to use them as a service

[–]emphodallay91 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I'm not going to pay for a single game on steam as long as this service is up and running. Talk about taking retardedness to a new level.

[–]stry8993stry8993 26 ポイント27 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I hope this ends up like the Portal 2 Store. You know, lost, buried, and long forgotten, and they made all of $20.

[–]bitwolfyhttp://steamcommunity.com/id/bitWolfy/ 28 ポイント29 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Whoever set the prices must be barking mad. $0.99 for a single weapon? How about no.

Also, iNeed for $4.00? Fuck that. What's more infuriating, though, is that it looks like it won't be updated on the Nexus anymore.

Furthermore, Chesko (author of Frostfall) will now release his mods as timed exclusives on Nexus (with 90 days of delay for new mods and 30 days of delay for updates).

This is bullshit.

[–]polysyllabistpolysyllabist 79 ポイント80 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is awful and I'm going to take a moment to concisely say why.

Right now, there is no shortage of quality mods. People make mods, for fun, because they want to, without monetary compensation. Money was never the reward.

But money incentivizes all kinds of shady practices. You'll see shit mods galore with click-baity titles and promises, where more effort is put into the thumbnail than the mod, with rating scams to shoot their products to the top drowning out the real moods made for real reasons; love of the game.

This will not create a utopia of content creation. This will create a cluster fuck of an app store. Fuck steam for every thinking this was a good idea.

[–]killurconsole7990 C 156 ポイント157 ポイント  (24子コメント)

they r selling a debut pack for $28.68 http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=429374670&searchtext=

the more they do that the more i will stay away from steam

edit:i just want to clarify, modders have the option to monetize their work ,u make a mod because u love a certain game not because u looking to earn some coins (at least that's how it has been) i seriously don't know where will this end .

as for now, i won't pay a penny for a mod but i am OK with donation , and i expect the majority of gamers not to do so .

edit2 :clarification

[–]pepolplai7-4770k 3.5 GHz | GTX 780 | 16GB 1600MHz 56 ポイント57 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Respect for Isoku = Lost

[–]KyphrosFX8350 | Corsair 16GB 1600MHz | R9 280 OC Sapphire 76 ポイント77 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Downvoted that stupid pack.

[–]Party_MagicianParty Magician 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Reminds me of this, now sad, joke from Cities Skylines

[–]kul_doodi5 4690K | 2X GTX 670 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (2子コメント)

This is what happens when people worship a DRM-pushing company and it's CEO unreservedly.

No matter how lenient in their policies they may be, Steam is ultimately a platform of corporate control over personal property.

Any corporation that adheres to a principle of control and oversight over its customers will eventually be overwhelmed by its own greed. It's only a matter of time.

[–]TheSpookiestSkeleton 47 ポイント48 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Marketing nerd here:

The average person is going to see the mods for sale list and they're NOT going to think

"Oh wow, I'm glad modders are getting guaranteed reward for their work."

They are going to think

"Wow, look at these thousands of dollars of DLC of random varying quality, no wonder they can sell the game so cheap, this is a rip off."

and it's going to hurt the steam service and brand as a whole.

[–]iCeCoCaCoLa64Specs/Imgur Here 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Because Valve doesn't make enough fucking money already.

[–]KX321i5 4670 @ 3.4 | GTX 970 | 8GB 106 ポイント107 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is a real shame. One of the main selling points of PC gaming, at least for me, was the extra hours and hours of content that can be enjoyed through mods for FREE.

Now it's essentially DLC just not from the game's original developer.

[–]Jay0253 24 ポイント25 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Gaben has betrayed us. :'(

http://i.imgur.com/v7bJJhm.jpg

[–]czulki 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Never thought pirating mods would become a thing.

[–]nukeclearsToothless Master Race 46 ポイント47 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Valve takes a 75% cut

valve takes a 75% cut

VALVE TAKES A FUCKING 75% CUT

I HAD TO TRIPLE TAKE THAT IN MY MIND BEFORE I COULD FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW STUPID THAT IS, you know. Besides the concept of selling mods altogether.

Add a donate button with 90% going to the mod author and 10% to Valve for processing fees.

[–]Magister_IngeniaAsus G751 - i7-4710HQ - 16GB DDR3 - GTX 980m 115 ポイント116 ポイント  (19子コメント)

Someone at the nexus made a good point about this: what happens to mods with lots of contributors? Mods that use other mods? Who gets paid, how much? Will it be too much work to figure out, so they just won't get made?

[–]Ohbliveeun_Mooveei5 3570K + GTX660ti 146 ポイント147 ポイント  (10子コメント)

This is a pretty crazy topic: From the thread on 8chan

[–]KyphrosFX8350 | Corsair 16GB 1600MHz | R9 280 OC Sapphire 86 ポイント87 ポイント  (4子コメント)

I'd like to see Wet and Cold 2.0 get a DMCA in the face. Fuck this modder.

[–]inspektor71 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This is a sad day for PC gaming. Today, we are the peasants.

[–]pcgameggod 112 ポイント113 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fuck this shit.

[–]JelskiproJelskipr0 57 ポイント58 ポイント  (1子コメント)

this will ruin mod communities

[–]uScaredONLY NOW: PAY 2,99$ TO UNLOCK FULL FLAIR 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (4子コメント)

This is the worst thing that happened to the PC community in.. I don't even know when something was THIS fucked up.

Wow, Valve. From heroism to villainy in 1 day. Fucking beautiful.

[–]Mr_Quackershttp://imgur.com/a/y07mm 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I guess you can get this sweet-ass free mod: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=430756460&searchtext=

EDIT: It looks like Valve pulled it and is banning users for it now. It was an MSPaint middle finger that said "eff the paid mods" or something to that effect.

[–]KyphrosFX8350 | Corsair 16GB 1600MHz | R9 280 OC Sapphire 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Midas Magic 5€49? Wet and Cold 4€59? What the fuck are these insane prices? If I paid for one of these mods, it'd be 30 cents for both maximum, not 5€!

[–]Annies_Boobsi5 4670k | AMD Sapphire 280X | 8GB DDR3 1866 126 ポイント127 ポイント  (9子コメント)

My jimmies are pretty rustled by this but the only positive I can come up with is that it might get developers to be more open to modding since they can get a cut.

Otherwise

RIP STEAM 2003 - 2015

EDIT: Maybe they can use some of that new cashflow and throw it at a support team that doesn't suck, maybe even a phone number that us customers can call! I know, that's a lot to ask for in 2015.

[–]rainbowcthulhum5a78l-m lx plus. fx-6300 @ 3.8 Ghz. gtx760. 8gb ram. 1 hdd. 38 ポイント39 ポイント  (1子コメント)

The true mobile experience

[–]EleglasJMAN 36 ポイント37 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Serious time now "brothers", I'm one of the biggest advocates for modding you'll ever find, and as such I will say this: fuck GabeN. Once again Valve lets there hand slip and shows us that it's the same as everyone else, looking to make a quick cash grab anywhere it can.

There is no GabeN anymore for me, only a CEO of a company setting out on a road to ruin modding forever.

[–]AhhBistoKieranTC 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Can't believe this, any modder who does this is selling their soul. And Bethesda have worked with Valve to allow this too.

[–]Minotaur_in_house 50 ポイント51 ポイント  (4子コメント)

And the console peasants look up as clouds consume the heavens. The brightest sun turns into a blinded pupil under the blanket of greed.

They look at their shackled hands and at the master race who stood above them. A smile breaks on their dry contentless lips, and whisper "So Gods do bleed"

[–]EricIsEric 52 ポイント53 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow, with Greenlight shit games, no customer support, and now this Steam is really going to shit, Orgin and GoG are preferable to Steam at this point, get your shit together Valve.

[–]ChileanGalSteam ID Here 74 ポイント75 ポイント  (6子コメント)

Remember when mods were free its almost like if it was yesterday.

Nexus creators are going to leave and go infest worksho with skins and models.

We can take mods out of the things that PC was better than consoles

[–]machine_addict 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (6子コメント)

The beginning of the end? What's next? $19.99 a month for Steam Platinum? You can't access your games unless you can pay your bill?

EDIT (I made a sales pitch for them!): Starting next year: Steam Platinum! $19.99 a month for unlimited access to all your games. Don't have $19.99? That's OK! $10.99 gets you up to 40 hours of play time on any two of the titles you've purchased!!! Want more? Steam Ultra is only $29.99 a month and get's you access to a huge library of game mods!

[–]Wyattboy 168 ポイント169 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Meh, dont really like this idea. Gaben sort your shit out.

[–]gestubegestube 134 ポイント135 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This sub is too mild. You're blind with your love for gaben you're not realizing hes fucking you right now.

[–]icebishopxnot a SteamBot/Hardware fanboy 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Guess its time to pirate some mods now... :/

Seriously though, it will come to that.

[–]gutigenSpecs/Imgur Here 67 ポイント68 ポイント  (7子コメント)

I think it will become same bullshit as with items for games where no one treats it as a hobby or passion, but more like a job and where money are involved creativity always hurts.

RIP Modding Scene