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Kanye West, the Antihero | The Pitch (pitchfork.com)
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[–]Chadwick19h 86 ポイント87 ポイント88 ポイント 1 日 前 (35子コメント)
I really enjoyed this read. The article separates itself from other "Ye Circle Jerks" by not indirectly apologizing for Kanye's actions using his stunted come-up or America's current race relations to explain his shenanigans. The writer just comes out and says it; Kanye has a RIGHT to feel some type of way regarding his own life. END OF STORY. When we sit around and try to explain "why it's ok for Kanye to act whatever way he acts because this particular aspect of his life" we take ourselves 10 steps back in race-relations. We do not need to explain and apologize for what a grown ass man says or how a grown ass man acts. How arrogant can someone possibly be to say something like "I like his music, I just don't like him as a person"? As if we need to hear how you feel smugly superior to Kanye's assumed superiority. lol idiots
The proof is in the pudding. If America rejects him, his records should stop going platinum.
Y'all have a wonderful Wednesday.
[+]weezy_fenomenal_baby スコアが基準値未満のコメント-25 ポイント-24 ポイント-23 ポイント 1 日 前 (33子コメント)
they did stop going platinum though
[–]gross614 30 ポイント31 ポイント32 ポイント 1 日 前 (31子コメント)
All of his albums have gone platinum.
[+]weezy_fenomenal_baby スコアが基準値未満のコメント-23 ポイント-22 ポイント-21 ポイント 1 日 前 (30子コメント)
Yeezus only shipped 1mill units..it didnt sell 1mill
[–]gross614 42 ポイント43 ポイント44 ポイント 1 日 前 (13子コメント)
Sure. That's not how platinum is certified, though. All of his albums have gone platinum.
[+]TheRoyalGodfrey スコアが基準値未満のコメント-14 ポイント-13 ポイント-12 ポイント 1 日 前 (12子コメント)
Yeah, but "America" has stopped buying his records relative to how much they used to. MBDTF has sold over a mil, Yeezus has sold like 700K
[–]gross614 29 ポイント30 ポイント31 ポイント 1 日 前 (1子コメント)
That's also with Yeezus having an extremely weird sound, no leading single, and almost no marketing.
[–]MGLLN 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
TheRoyalGodfrey: "But let me find an excuse to dispute your reply and continue behaving like a difficult moose"
[–]Ad__Hominem 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 日 前 (1子コメント)
MBDTF dropped off fast after hitting plat.
Yeezus is still selling copies to this day
[+]TheRoyalGodfrey スコアが基準値未満のコメント-8 ポイント-7 ポイント-6 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
Source?
[–]daktherapper 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 20 時間 前 (3子コメント)
"America" stopped buying records in general relative to how they used to. Kanye's declining sales are representative of less people buying music in general, not his declining popularity.
[–]TheRoyalGodfrey -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 20 時間 前 (2子コメント)
So you're saying that Yeezus would've done MBDTF numbers if it were released in 2010?
[–]daktherapper 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 20 時間 前 (1子コメント)
No - I'm saying MBDTF might've done Graduation numbers of it was released in 07. The music industry took a hit sales wise in the late 00's when piracy got bigger and easier.
I'm not saying Yeezus would've done the numbers his earlier albums did - it's a hell of lot less accessible. I just think it's unfair to compare albums ten years apart on raw sales numbers, the times need to be considered. College Dropout wouldn't have gone triple platinum if it dropped in 2010.
[–]TheRoyalGodfrey -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 19 時間 前 (0子コメント)
It probably would've done better numbers bc of what you're saying, but Grad is the poppiest Ye album by far
[–]Sukhvirlam 2 ポイント3 ポイント4 ポイント 1 日 前 (3子コメント)
No, the google play sale pushed it past 1 mill.
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[–]Sukhvirlam 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 19 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Where is your source for the 700k? http://www.hiphopdx.com/m/index.php?s=news&id=26776
[–]TheRoyalGodfrey -5 ポイント-4 ポイント-3 ポイント 18 時間 前 (0子コメント)
The last indicated margin for it was 680k. You can find that on HHDX.
I just assumed it would be at least at 700k by now.
And am I missing something or does that article not say what I was asking for a source on?
[–]hansel4150 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1 日 前 (1子コメント)
It was certified platinum a little over a year ago.
[–]weezy_fenomenal_baby -4 ポイント-3 ポイント-2 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
riaa
[–]Chadwick19h 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 1 日 前 (13子コメント)
Oh the album that got basically zero doll hairs put towards its release, sounds drastically different sonically than the rest of the genre we are currently discussing and is widely regarded as decades ahead of its time?
Yeah you right, only a million units shipped.
[–]Thatonegingerkid 8 ポイント9 ポイント10 ポイント 1 日 前 (10子コメント)
I'm a huge Ye fan, and Aldo a big fan of Yeezus, but I have no idea how it is decades ahead of its time. For such a mainstream artist it is definitely different, but industrial rap has been around for quite a while, and it's hard to not notice the Death Grips influence, and they've been around for years
[–]barracudashmurda 3 ポイント4 ポイント5 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
Nah, I keep hearing about the Death Grips influence, but to me it sounds a lot more like Travis Scott's stuff than Death Grips. I don't really think the influence is there. Anyways, Yeezus is pretty cool, does some differently, but haha no way is it decades ahead of its time.
[–]KlausFenrir 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 15 時間 前 (1子コメント)
Death Grips influence
I hate this argument. The influence is almost irrelevant because to the casual listener (most important demographic), Yeezus is palatable and the Death Grips sound isn't. Now I wouldn't say it's ahead of its time, but the album definitely opened a new frontier to mainstream audiences, something that was obviously unattainable by Death Grips.
If DG could've done it, DG would've done it. Kanye's flair is to be able to take something and make it accessible to the public.
[–]Thatonegingerkid 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 14 時間 前 (0子コメント)
While I agree that Kanye's ability to make this sound mainstream is what makes him so unique, I really doubt Death Grips are aiming for mainstream success. All their antics and ditching tours and dick album covers are a good way to attract attention sure, but not mainstream, radio play attention. Also, the fact that their music has, for the most part, gotten more inaccessible as they have gone on is, to me, an indicator of their disinterest in commercial viability
Again, not attacking kanye, I'm a huge stan. Just disagree with the idea of the Yeezus sound being ahead of its time
[–]Chadwick19h 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1 日 前 (2子コメント)
When's the last time Death Grips shipped a million units?
That's how it's decades ahead of its time. The fact that the industrial sound was made accessible to the mainstream.
[–]Thatonegingerkid 5 ポイント6 ポイント7 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
But how does taking someone else's sound and using it on his own record make it "ahead of its time"?
IMO ahead of its time would be something the Richard D. James Album by Aphex Twin. Something that really didnt sound like anything else at the time. Just bringing another sound in to the mainstream,and watering it down considerably, isn't that revolutionary
Also, death grips may not get the mass sales but they definitely are not some under ground, no name band. Most anyone who is into music past the radio has at least heard of them
[–]sakattack 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 23 時間 前 (0子コメント)
why is that decades ahead of it's time? I don't get it. Sure, it made a non-commercial sound more mainstream, but what does that have to do with being ahead of the curve? I don't see how that type of industrial hip-hop has really made a splash, save for Yeezus and DG.
[–]Aligator_Pacino 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1 日 前 (2子コメント)
Link me one Death Grips song and one Yeeus song that sound alike.
[–]Thatonegingerkid 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 日 前 (1子コメント)
I'm not saying Kanye blatantly ripped off any DG songs, just that Yeezus sounds similar to how a commercial DG would sound. I highly doubt Kanye had heard DG and decided to make an album like theirs, but I was using them as a counter example to the idea that Yeezus was "decades ahead of its time"
Also Im on mobile so I can't link, but just the beats (obviously Kanye sounds nothing like Stefan) from Come Up and Get Me and I've Seen Footage could easily fit in to Yeezus's tracklist if they were toned down a bit IMO
[–]HW_Plainview 1 ポイント2 ポイント3 ポイント 4 時間 前 (0子コメント)
No it doesn't sound like death grips at all.
[–]gopats12 -2 ポイント-1 ポイント0 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
Yeezus doesn't sound anything like death grips. Also yeezus has sold more than death grips could ever dream of.
[–]padraigd 4 ポイント5 ポイント6 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
This sub man
[–]weezy_fenomenal_baby -3 ポイント-2 ポイント-1 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
shipment is upto the label/distributor..they projected 1mill in sales
didnt happen
[–]culturebarren 0 ポイント1 ポイント2 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
The industry changed since 2004, now records stream instead of sell
[+]rbace スコアが基準値未満のコメント-19 ポイント-18 ポイント-17 ポイント 1 日 前 (0子コメント)
i don't like the music either, because it's a reflection of him as a person that i find annoying.
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