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Yes I am having same comments but using Vista and IE9, latest for Vista.
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Flickr has been gradually deteriorating, but today it has gone belly-up! This means that some Flickr genius has been deliberately and methodically pulling the plugs!
I paid for a Flickr Pro Account.
Now I have to pay for a new computer.
Thanks a lot!
Edit: Up until today, I was able to use the ugly purple Yahoo! toolbar as a back door to access my Yahoo email. Now it connects me to the "old" version of email and tells me to upgrade my browser.
Is Flickr deliberately harassing Neanderthals like me?
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I am a paying member too, and I'd be pissed if Flickr failed to update and improve their service with the newest technologies just so they can still work on outdated systems/browsers.
There comes a time when any technology becomes obsolete.
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Darren LoPrinzi:
technology becomes obsolete.
There is a difference between "unsupported" browsers and "obsolete" browsers.
What we see here is that Flickr is boycotting Opera, which is a *fully updated* modern browser, keeping track with new developments etc.
ED. The funny thing is that "Epic", which is an unsupported browser, does not call up the Green Grass screen.
ED 2 And note that Opera IS secure.
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Darren LoPrinzi:
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I don't understand this resentment about Flickr moving forward. It seems to be another example where people want Flickr to improve, as long as it doesn't impact them. Flickr didn't move forward for many years and it almost died. I for one would prefer it to not remain stagnant.
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kmacgray:
O.K. You seem to have fistfuls of money. Buy me a new computer.
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lairdascott:
You don't need a new computer, just a new (more secure) browser. And they are free.
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lairdascott:
My computer isn't new.
Do you think that Flickr should always remain backward-compatible with older web browsers going forward?
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Patrick Costello:
I cannot download any of the upgraded browsers.
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lairdascott:
I cannot download any of the upgraded browsers
Try Epic. It is upgraded and it is secure.
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kmacgray:
I'm puzzled over your comment. Flickr worked before. Other websites still work. Are you suggesting that I'm some sort of Luddite?
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lairdascott:
No, I'm suggesting that I'm puzzled why some people are reluctant/scared to try/update other browsers for troubleshooting issues on the site. Maybe it's me, but I don't understand it.
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kmacgray:
One example:
www.flickr.com/photos/lairdascott/17233218471/
The same holds true for Safari, Firefox, and Chrome
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Darren LoPrinzi:
Yep - but as the way to upgrade involves being stuck with a hopless Windows 8 at the moment, it's not much of an advance is it? Flickr worked this morning and not this afternoon. It's perfectly possible to serve the older verion to older browsers but Yahoo have chosen not to do this, prefering to abuse (again) Flickr users.
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MabelAmber® ***Pluto5339*** Queen of Streetshots:
I tried and failed:
www.flickr.com/photos/lairdascott/17233218471/
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lairdascott:
I tried and failed:
I noticed.
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This is absolutely annoying. First Google does it with their searches a few months back, now Flickr, I even went to the Atlantic site this morning and it's a horrific mobile layout. Why can't they just leave well enough alone.
I take it the message coming up EVERY FRICKING TIME YOU GO TO A NEW PIC is supposed to annoy you into upgrading your browser? How about I just don't and NOT use Flickr?
I'm on OS X Snow Leopard and until Apple actually makes a OS X that favors functionality over stupid bells and whistles I'm not upgrading. They already ruined IOS by making unusable on Ipad 2's. Forced obsolescence on perfectly working machines and hardware is a money grab plain and simple.
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What version of MacOS X are you running?
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kmacgray:
^^ It's in my post- Snow Leopard 10.6.8
Oh wait you meant someone else -sorry.
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kmacgray:
10.5.8
I cannot upgrade. I have been orphaned by Apple.
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And on what hardware?
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Sorry, I'm trying to get real specific here. Which model iMac?
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I'm getting it on my iphone as well, on iOS 7.1.1
I haven't upgraded to 8 because I'd have to do a memory dump first, and last time I had to completely wipe my phone and lost a lot of vital information I can't get back. Eventually I'll be upgrading to a newer phone, but until then, this is pretty annoying. :(
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Model Name: iMac
Model Identifier: iMac5,1
Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo
Processor Speed: 2 GHz
Number Of Processors: 1
Total Number Of Cores: 2
L2 Cache: 4 MB
Memory: 4 GB
Bus Speed: 667 MHz
Boot ROM Version: IM51.0090.B09
SMC Version (system): 1.8f2
Edit: (I did not include Serial Number (system) or Hardware UUID)
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Andre Bogaert....ishootpeople.uk:
I am getting the same message for Safari (browser unsupported please update to latest version). I am using the latest version of Safari (5.1.10) for my computer's operating system (10.6.8). Perhaps newer versions of Apple's operating system support a newer version of Safari, I don't know, but if I update my current Apple operating system to the most recent version, I will lose many programs I utilize that will no longer be supported by the latest Mac operating system, including ones I use to process photos that I post on Flickr.
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Unfortunately, that computer is nine years old, an eternity in technology time.
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kmacgray:
If I had purchased it a little later in the same year, it would be compatible.
Apple orphaned me.
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Flickr is showing the greener grass screen when I am logged out.
They have now made this site difficult for most of my friends and relatives to view.
Staff comment please.
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I wouldnt be surprised if Flickr would run just fine on "outdated" browsers, but some staff member somewhere made the decision not to allow it.
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l use Opera on the Windows 8.1 OS (which is not on their list) and i'm getting the same shit message
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lairdascott:
It's currently 7:18am in SF and Flickr's offices are closed, but perhaps an early staffer will stop by.
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I can get the fully working website, using my generic android browser, which hasn't been updated in 2 years.
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my computer is new and I am using the latest ersion of Firefox , updating makes no difference , still cannot access my photos
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knightbefore_99:
my computer is new and I am using the latest ersion of Firefox , updating makes no difference , still cannot access my photos
If that is version 37.02 then consider creating a new thread and add [BUG] to the topic title.
There are more reports from others with the same problem, using the latest FF and getting the Green Grass screen.
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Another anomaly:
Images on Firefox are elongated horizontally. Images on Safari are not.
Good News: suddenly my access to the "new" Yahoo! email has been restored. Maybe it's a sign that the Green Grass screen will soon disappear.
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Hey all, I'm one of those early staffers... just catching up on this thread, Safari only?
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Photography is a passion that crosses all lines in society and many who enjoy it are disabled, elderly and not affluent enough to constantly pay for new cameras, software and computers every few years. The internet in theory should be a means where ALL should be able to enjoy the benefits of photo sharing.
Flickr no longer supporting older browsers clearly is discriminating against that segment of society that can least afford to upgrade, but nonetheless have a love of photography.
Throwing those that cannot afford to constantly upgrade under the bus, so to speak, puts Flickr in a position of no longer being an inclusive egalitarian forum for the enjoyment of photography.
Hopefully, corporate Flickr and Yahoo will realize that the lack of backward compatibility is clearly discriminatory.
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Safari only?
From reports of some users it appears for them Firefox latest (37.02) calls up the Grass is greener message.
The fully updated and secure Opera throws the green grass back at me / us.
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No, FF too!
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BioArt:
Flickr no longer supporting older browsers
Flickr has always dropped support for older browsers. The browser requirements is this FAQ topic specifically state:
"Flickr is designed to run in the latest versions of the following browsers.
Mozilla Firefox
Google Chrome
Internet Explorer
Safari"
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Hopefully, corporate Flickr and Yahoo will realize that the lack of backward compatibility is clearly discriminatory.
For Flickr to innovate, they need to work with the tools of the Internet, which change as the technology changes. Expecting them to be backwards compatible forever is not realistic.
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kmacgray:
Other up-to-date websites can handle this problem. By comparison, it is Flickr which is primitive.
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kmacgray:
True but I AM using the latest version of FF & I still can't use flickr because of the "Unsupported Browser" message every time I try to view a photo. I can click through the message only for it to return when I try to view the next photo!
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True but I AM using the latest version of FF I still can't use flickr because of the "Unsupported Browser" message every
Seems a bug to me, at least if it shows up for fully supported and updated browsers.
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I'm not seeing the message on Firefox 37.0.1 and I just upgraded to 37.0.2 and still do not see it. Which platform?
With regard to Opera, it is not technically a supported browser, though I suspect there won't be many (if any) issues using Flickr. This is not a statement saying we support it! ;)
There may be an issue with Safari 7 triggering the message. That seems a bit aggressive.
Poor IE. Once at the top, now at the bottom. We don't support IE10 or less though, in reality, IE10 is generally okay. There's an interesting (nerdy) blog post here about browser usage on Flickr code.flickr.net/2015/03/04/browsers-in-2014/
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Eric Willis:
With regard to Opera, it is not technically a supported browser, though I suspect there won't be many (if any) issues using Flickr.
Using Opera triggers the "Grass is greener" message when clicking through to the photo pages and group pages. .
That started earlier today.
Edit: and not only for me... www.flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/72157651704456868/
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I am using an older version of FF out of choice because my award counter was still working and so was everything else.
I do not need that stupid Green grass message every time I want to open a photo. It makes my group work very difficult and tiresome.
PLEASE TAKE AWAY THE GREEN GRASS MESSAGE !!!!!
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Eric Willis:
I'm seeing it on FF V37.0.2 using Windows 8
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the latest browsers only work on the newest computers...
and WHO has the money to buy a new computer all 2 years ???
THIS IS DISCRIMINATING all not so very rich people !!!!!
thank you YAHOO !!!
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Eric Willis:
You've got 92 million users. Every 1% of them that you throw on the scrap heap is still nearly one million people.
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MabelAmber® ***Pluto5339*** Queen of Streetshots:
Thanks Mabel & I really hope it is a bug otherwise my flickr days are over!
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Jay Bees Pics:
Thanks Mabel & I really hope it is a bug otherwise my flickr days are over!
It is not everyone whose FF is affected, just very few people.
I am not encountering problems with FF 37.02 on Windows 8.1
Send in a bug report, using this link:
www.flickr.com/help/with/other/
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I have just started getting this issue. I was fed up with chrome getting slower and slower and basically becoming a real PITA to use so looked for an alternative. Opera is awesome secure and lightning quick. so why i would choose one of the others is beyond me. IE is a dinosaur always was always will be which is why it will no longer be bundled with windows as from win 10. chrome as i said has now just become unusable. fair enough firefox could be good, but i moved to chrome from firefox because it too became unusable. PLEASE FLICKR support Opera as more and more people are turning to it especially now syncing with a mobile is the norm and opera does this with consummate ease.
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lairdascott:
We are going to have to agree to disagree, I guess. You feel persecuted but I see it differently. Good luck.
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I get the message with Safari. Latest version at home (that runs on OS X Lion) and latest version on iPad (with iOS 7).
I can't upgrade OS on home computer (and with neices in university can't afford new computer just for Flickr). And while I technically could upgrade the iPad the Apple Genius recommended against it (reduced battery life and major slowdown is the hit I'd take).
What awesome features are being planned that we need to buy new computers and iPads to use? And if we don't want to use them, can't we at least only have to click the "I'm not crossing the fence" button once per session?
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MabelAmber® ***Pluto5339*** Queen of Streetshots:
Thanks Mabel, will do since I'm using the same version of FF as you together with Windows 8.1.
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kmacgray:
I don't feel persecuted. I just feel that the greedy management of this website has simply gotten too far out of bounds.
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lairdascott:
What does a possible bug on the site have to do with corporate greed? There are a lot of blind assumptions being made here regarding this unsupported browser message, and we still don't know what the exact issue is. Not even staff know yet.
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i've had so many flickr friends leave the site. i'll have to be next if the 'grass' popup isn't resolved very soon.
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Staff referred to an article which presented percentages of users on various browsers and operating systems. I inferred that low percentage users were not worth the investment. But even a lowly 1% equals nearly one million people.
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hi Eric, just remove the message and let people choose their own browser. saying opera is not technically supported and there wont be many if any issues is a bit lame. opera as a browser should be supported as it has been around for a long time and in its new guise even uses the chrome engine. how hard can it be for flickr to sort this issue. either support opera or remove the greengrass message.
regards by the way for sticking your head above the parapet on this one.
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lairdascott:
But even a lowly 1% equals nearly one million people.
But you need to compare that to the development and support costs of a company to continue to serve such a small percentage of users and stay stuck in the past, rather than innovate and look to the future. At a certain point, it's not worth it to stay there.
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Moving my bitch to this pitch....or moan to this zone?
I'm getting this message when clicking on a justified photostream image on a newish Galaxy tablet (Android ) ...so I can't change the browser, right?
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Eric Willis:
Thank you so much!
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Good News....Thanks for the heads up
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Latest firefox , Green grass message
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Andre Bogaert....ishootpeople.uk:
FLICKR stopped support Mac OSX10.6.8 machines running Safari 5.1 but canNOT upgrade =abuse of users forced to buy new computer this is a Twitter I started to post around. There are mare many machines (expensive big Macs that can NOT up[grad beyond OSX 10.6.8 and so can NOT upgrade to a newer version of Safari. There are tens of millions of such machines around the world. Which (intended or not) CRIMINAL changed the code...? Downward compatibility should be something enforced by law onto monopolists like Google & Yahoo.. Lots of complaints are need to convince these managers at Flickr they made the wrong move
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I am a Mac user and y big desktop machine with big screen can not be upgraded beyond 10.6.8 heavy machine lots of memory BUT this software change means I have to BUY an expensive new machine and many oif my clkients are forced to do the same or will NOT understand why they get an error... I can NOT see what functionality extra there is in full view mode that can NOT run on Safari 5.1 its just a bit of Javascript... and so on... NO need on software level to force people to buy new and expensive new hardware.... You may consider my argument... it is wasteful, it is monopolistic business hungry for profit... this moving forward... A smart programmer can work both ways... Full view on Flickr is NOT a big deal.... Vimeo also does this and also there it is NOT needed... the code and routines to just show a picture at different sizes does not imply buying NEW hardware... be a bit more savvy on the technological level... please.
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I am a Mac user and y big desktop machine with big screen can not be upgraded beyond 10.6.8 heavy machine lots of memory BUT this software change means I have to BUY an expensive new machine and many oif my clkients are forced to do the same or will NOT understand why they get an error... I can NOT see what functionality extra there is in full view mode that can NOT run on Safari 5.1 its just a bit of Javascript... and so on... NO need on software level to force people to buy new and expensive new hardware.... You may consider my argument... it is wasteful, it is monopolistic business hungry for profit... this moving forward... A smart programmer can work both ways... Full view on Flickr is NOT a big deal.... Vimeo also does this and also there it is NOT needed... the code and routines to just show a picture at different sizes does not imply buying NEW hardware... be a bit more savvy on the technological level... please.
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That's great! THANKS!!
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You are correct.... It is a push to force us to buy new hardware (intended or not) some are as blinded that they see that as unstoppable progress... but it is nothing more than enforced consumerism... wasteful technically it is just a bit of Javascript and so on that throws images in a fancy way on the screen... has NOTHING to do with hardware abilities, but all with IGNORANT PROGRAMMING... a SHAME... good I propose multiplication of protests against FLickr... (by the way VIMEO tries the same trick)...
The same happens on the video front with refusal for a standard (is it mp4 or .ogg and which browser supports what and why they change the thing around all the time? We should claim rights as users on downward compatability... My high end Mac OSX 10.6.8 works fine... It is the the like of Yahoo & other fiorms that provoke us and push our good machines to the wateheap... No thought about environmentasl impact also...
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Eric Willis: The annoying Green Grass screen has in a small corps "No thanks, take me to the site anyway" which many non savvy people would be scared of clicking.. the lay out that follows is wrongly centred and so on... half functional... I have thousands of people linking to my Flickr side which I use for visualised political comment (news-Tableaus) (my daily traffic is between 4 and 7 thousand... many are already now frustrated... puzzled, irritated... WHY IS IT THAT A BIG FIRM IS UNABLE TO IMPLEMENT CHANGES smoothly & wisely?
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I get the same reported message. Not sure if Yahoo is worth keeping or exploring anymore.
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Fot the simple functionality Flickr has... showing pictures in different groupings and sizes, backward compatibility is NO problem... a bit of Javascript and the like will read out which machine with what browser is connecting and divert the user to a proper functioning bit of display software... Backward compatibility for the functionality Flickr offers also what they want to offer in the future should pose NO PROBLEM with a well informed staff and good programmers. IT smells like top-down manager style decision making by incompetent people with too much power at a too high position, being well paid for doing a bad job.
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PUT BACK my ability to use my old Opera browser, damn it! It was the only way I could browse this now bandwidth-hogging travesty that is now flickr!!!!
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Imaginary Museum Projects: News Tableaus:
i'm not even getting the no thanks message. and i'm thisclose to being over flickr.
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Andre Bogaert....ishootpeople.uk:
FLICKR STOPPED SUPPORTING SAFARI version 5.1 in spite of the fact that there are many million Macs around the world which have hardware that can NOT upgrade to a higher version of the Operating system, these perfectly fine machines, like my one) has hardware that can not go higher than the operating system 10.6.8. ERGO the move of Flickr implies that millions of people have to throw out perfect good machines, because of NO necessity at all, as on the software level it is just a bit of Javascript that they failed to implement.... 10.6.8. machines are absolutely capable of performing all display functions needed for Flickr now, Flickr new style and Flickr in the near Future!
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Flickr, starting from today, doesn't support Opera?
Which, by the way, is not only based on Chrome but one of the best browser around?
Please....
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Could not agree more lairdscott! Accommodation to all browsers not forced consumerism should be the order of the day.
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At 1024x768 display resolution, the "No thanks, take me to the site anyway" link is *hidden* off the edge of the screen, and there is *no* way to scroll down to see it.
I've barely used Flickr since May 20, 2013 as it is. Now they don't even want me to SEE the site? Great going, Yahoo; great going.
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Thank you all for your patience. Safari 7 users should not be seeing the message anymore, let us know if that's still the case.
Thanks!
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how can Opera be unsupported when l can see my photos, my albums, my mail, my profile and add tags and amend my preferences to all my photos all of which l done in the last hour and yet when l click on an individual photo or use the search facility l get the 'unsupported' crap. It sounds more like a really bad bit of programming from a 'apprentice' who has not a clue what the hell he is doing.
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Robert Pool's Glasgow Collection:
in a kind of hacker do!
stats, i see too!
"and yet when l click on an individual photo or use the search facility l get the 'unsupported' crap."
i am not happy, dear
flickr staff.
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on work i can change nothing, no browser no operating system.
the clicks overall!
will fall down!
not flickr members with older or other brothers can not see
flickr!
IE8 does not work!
Opera does not work!
why!
effi
admin of a lot of groups - all will be unsupported now!
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Please, give us an opt out button!
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I'm running the latest version of IE with Vista and I'm being told I've got to upgrade my browser?
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bondog61 (back):
lol
you were falling in a trap??
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I am no longer seeing the Green Grass message on Opera (updated version) - I can click through to the individual photo pages and anywhere else without the green obstruction.
Thank you for the fix.
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Me too, nice and clean, no more grass, greener or not.
Thank you for the fix. :O)
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Opera problem fixed .... great news
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The Spirit of the World (On&Off):
I hope that is the right # for Firefox
The most recent version of Firefox is 37.2
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How come I'm getting "The grass could be greener on the other side" all of a sudden?
I'm using Firefox Mozilla, the latest version but got it set to the pre-March 2014 Flickr page so I can add stuff to the maps, still getting "we're still hard at work" if I use it on the latest page! :(
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I have 37.0.2 and I still get the green message- not happy. Have spent the afternoon configuring a diff browser .
Not happy
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I'm using Mozilla too! How come I've got "The grass is greener" page suddenly?
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