Social Justice Bullies - The Authoritarianism of Millennial Social Justice: Millennials have formed a unique brand of identity politics. With a strong narrative that focuses on which group one belongs to, there has been an increasing balkanization of identities.

vuxanov · 7 時間前

As a proud person of Balkan using the word balkanization is appropriating my culture.

modorra · 13 時間前

People really misconstrue this whole "don't question the victim". Different institutions and processes require different behavior. Its intended to describe the social response, not the legal one. Its not "never ever question the victim, even in a court of law" its "don't be an asshole. Seriously.".

Judicial proceedings and investigative reporting require fact checking, including asking the victim painful questions. Extending sympathy does not. Its better to be compassionate to 10 undeserving people than to not be compassionate to a single person who needs it.

monstred · 3 時間前

I only see articles and reddit posts crying out against so-called social justice warriors (SJW).

Besides on Tumblr, where are these people online? Besides the Rolling Stone article, where are the articles which promote this particular brand of identity politics? Is there any affect in the real world, outside of speakers being rejected from a invited talks at Unis (which was a not an uncommon occurrence before Tumblr, so it's not clear if the SJW Tumblr community is related)?

There seems to be more froth coming from the movement against the social justice movement than from the movement itself. It's just hard to see the point of it if you aren't exposed to the offensive so-called SJWs.

internationalslapdap · 7 時間前

Just wanna clarify a distinction: This was a moment of journalism, not an actual trial. I think the article was there just like everything else they write, to sell copies, to be opportunistic. In that sense, yes, The Rolling Stone article is a good representation of a cultural current run wild. But we ought to be careful not to conflate mistakes of a magazine with the mistakes of a courtroom. Just sayin'.

-RyN- · 14 時間前

It's amusing how the biggest "social justice" zealots are also the ones most likely to be white and upper-class.

kru5h · 11 時間前

I find a striking similarity between the new "social justice" and Broken Window Theory, the idea that vigilantly overpunishing small crimes and "microaggressions" somehow leaves us safer from larger scale crimes.

That is, it is believed that excessive punishment for a broken window is acceptable because in the long run it prevents more broken windows, which prevents more vandalism, which prevents local society from becoming welcoming to small crimes and makes more upright citizens feel that they are safe, discouraging a criminal environment.

This is similar to claims of "rape culture", that is, not accepting women's views by default, being sexually aggressive, or not being attentive to women's messages leads to something else which leads to something else which leads to a culture that encourages and promotes rape.

The problem with both of these is that the statistics don't really bear it out and are murky at best. We've already been through similar crises in the past with the supposed violence culture of violent cartoons and video games. Sure, cartoons used to be too violent, but there was a radical movement to end all video and game violence because it leads to an overall more violent society. I'm not sure that we want to complete another cycle of slippery slopes and vigilante vigilance without first seeing where the data comes out.

NoSpicyFood · 13 時間前

Even as the author lays out a clear and polite article, taking care to address arguments and positions rather than people and character, he still takes the time to qualify what he stands for: at multiple instances, he says he supports equality and he believes the fight against social ills is needed. The unfortunate reality is that he must do this. A good portion of his article is pointing out the flawed counter-arguments SJW's are going to employ; the author continues that trend by making it clear that should an SJW say he hates equality, he can point to where he already said exactly the opposite. It's frustrating. Half of any response given to an SJW needs to be filled with denials of sexism, racism, and whatever other type of discriminatory position one may be assigned.

Edit: On a related note, the atheist community has been suffering from deep rifts the past few years. A number of SJW's have tried to make a name for themselves (mostly by calling the previous heavy hitters in the movement sexists and racists). One guy* even made an unsubstantiated rape accusation against someone. Well, it's all coming to a head now. Major atheist groups are disassociating from these people.

http://www.michaelnugent.com/2015/04/07/atheist-ireland-dissociates-from-pz-myers/

*That guy (mentioned in the above link) was once accused of raping a college student. He "zoom" went straight to administrators and shut down all chance of an inquiry into his actions before the girl could formally make her accusation.

VelvetElvis · 3 時間前

As a person involved with offline leftist activism on a regular basis I have never once encountered anything like is discussed in this article.

I maintain that it's it's either an internet myth or that these people do not actually engage in real life politics.

sdfser · 15 時間前

The author discusses the trend of polarized identity balkanization that seems to be going on in the younger generations. This doesn't bode well for things such as freedom of speech, academic freedom, or for working on future political compromises need to keep society functioning.

Wasnt_Me · 9 時間前

strong title/topic but for me the long-winded writing style made this tough to read

lightninhopkins · 12 時間前

I dunno, it just seems like two large groups of people yelling at each other over shit that doesn't matter.

itwentok · 2 時間前

This shocks the conscience, as it should, and is used to fuel the hysteria of rape culture on campuses nationwide.

Wow, this is a really unfortunate choice of words in this context. I wish the author had made a trip to the dictionary here.

hys·te·ri·a

həˈstirēə,həˈsterēə/

noun

a psychological disorder (not now regarded as a single definite condition) whose symptoms include conversion of psychological stress into physical symptoms (somatization), selective amnesia, shallow volatile emotions, and overdramatic or attention-seeking behavior. The term has a controversial history as it was formerly regarded as a disease specific to women.

Priceofmycoffee · 1 時間前

"Consider the UVA/Rape Scandal..."

"Let's return to the UVA/Rape Scandal..."

This article is trash, this subreddit eats this shit everyday.

locallyunscene · 20 分前

For example: this is not an article, but an article written by a straight, white, middle-class (etc.) male (and for this reason will be discounted by many on account of how my privilege blinds me — more on this later).

That is a complete fantasy. I will discount what you're saying because it's a psuedo-intellectual mess of "the-other-side-does-it-too" followed by claiming that because one rape accusation was potentially false, rape culture doesn't exist. This segues "seamlessly" into a 1984 non-sequitur and tops it off with power dynamics don't real. Oh and let's throw the wage gap in there for good measure to ensure I hit all my talking points. This garbage does not belong here.

Diffie-Hellman · 8 分前

I think this article gives a minority of groups on the Internet way too much credit, such as the Tumblr social activists. I don't think these concepts are anything new, rather they have a more distributed medium.

randomb0y · 3 時間前

I fully subscribe to the sentiment. I hate inequality and always vote left, but I think that SJWs do more harm than good. There's really only one privilege that matters: wealth. Something like a basic income would do more good for the underprivileged than all the political correctness in the world.

hoffmanz8038 · 4 時間前

This isn't "just how millenials are," this is their reaction to a broken system.

alnarra · 1 時間前

There is some truth to be had in Balkainzation. Much like Tea Party Politics have turned the conservative movement into warring factions of Not conservative enough, in many respects the idea of "Social Justice" has starkly divided the progressive movement, hence the invention of such words as "BroGressive" (the idea that one holds progressive ideas but not all that strongly or only when they suit the needs of their established privileges).

The Idea of a Patriarchy, Social Privileges, and the like are nothing that's actually new to the playing field. It's just usually we didn't have 14 year olds who haven't taken even the most basic classes in Women's Studies or African American History espousing those ideas.

Social Ideas are a very sensitive matter and are important, but we've let anger become so overwhelmingly prevalent that we've even managed to demonize the word feminism. We have in many ways sparked a counter culture movement that honestly should have no reason for being (The Men's Right's movement). Who's claims easily would have fit under what was supposed to be the egalitarian views of Feminist study. The problem of course is those outside the field hijacked the ideology to spread a very... Us v. Them bubble. They turned what was a quiet progressive movement into a very vocal one.

That's not always a bad thing, sometimes there is a boiling point, and as my generation by and large has failed to make any substantial impact on economic issues, perhaps the issues that are doing the most damage to us (the obvious failures of the Occupy Wall Street movement come to mind), it has instead turned it's objectives to furthering egalitarian ideology at the cost of some angry white boys.

It's not my place to say weather or not that has done them any good, but righteous anger about social movements isn't unheard of and while they aren't wholly correct (in my short sighted opinion), there is certainly something to be said about needing to adjust the social outlook to remind people that the "Minority of the Day" is not what the progressive movement focuses on. That is to say just because in a political sense trying to establish a society in which LGBT rights are recognized does not mean that the progressive movement has forgotten Women's Issues and Issues of Race.

So the "SJW" archetype is born to remind people, that yes, there is still a problem with slurs, violence, and general inequitable things being levied against those of a different Sex or Race. Again this isn't a bad thing, but the way it has been done has scratched a few chalkboards, because by and large the movement (like /r/shitredditsays ) was born out of anger and being fed up with the situation rather then just another progressive branch.

For the most part, the idea of the "SJW" is used like a scary ghost story, intended to be an online Boogyman where you can lump blame for a perceived sight. We have managed again to demonize the word feminism and all this does is serve non progressive ideaology. One only need look through the replies here to realize that even the implication that you identify with this "Far Left" ideology clearly indicates a lack of thought or understanding of the situation as a perception rather then a truth.

bafflesaurus · 7 時間前

I fucking hate my generation.

ScreamingCrab · 2 時間前

I'm not convinced by this. That's not to say the article doesn't make some good points, but more that it jumps to conclusions based on a sample of limited proportions.

I see nothing wrong with showing awareness and sensitivity in relation to your own background and others. The 'privilege checking' is simply a way of trying to get some critical perspective on your own circumstances. However, I feel, online at least, that it fails. People who are told to 'check their privilege' don't, while those who do the telling rarely explain their own privileges. It's weird that one has to be privileged to come across privilege theory, showing how in that sense, often theory and its practitioners have failed.

However, I am 99% certain that this exists only online, as I have never come across this tendency in real life, and I'm involved in a lot of political stuff. I think this article is overreacting and using this as some kind of judgement of Social Justice in the same way that 4Chan is used as a judgement of the internet.

Also horeshoe theory is bullshit. No matter how annoying, I have never heard of gangs of radical feminists lynch a man to death for being a man, unlike a white supremacists lynching black people.

svobod · 10 時間前

Yawn. Another 4channer with a vocabulary pompous enough to get onto Medium. What a small portion of the 14 - 25 year old female demographic does on the internet is a complete non-issue.

alvzh · 10 時間前

I'm an advocate for social justice.

I hold some privileged identities, and some marginalized identities in the canon of social justice.

I feel the pain of a marginalized identity - who you are feels suppressed by the immense weight of a social world. Everything around you and the messages you receive from everywhere doesn't match up with how you feel.

With privilege, you realize that life isn't any better with it - what the marginalized crave from your existence isn't what they think. This power of the privileged is glory if you can wield it correctly, and pain if you fail. And the expectation is that you should. As a man you own the world, or you are completely lost to the world. Masculinity and the social concept of rape reflects this - you are a winner if you get sex, but if done improperly by rape, you are a rapist, at the level of an exiled inhuman existence.

Ultimately, you realize that life has a way of seeming shitty to everyone. But the worst we can do is to deny people their feelings by exerting social power over others. We are human beings we ought to take care of each other. It's a true disservice to humanity when you deny someone's humanity by exerting your privilege on someone's experience. And those with marginalized identities aren't doing any better when they act as "social justice bullies" as well. We ought to educate and make compassion happen. Compassion for each other won't be achieved by the same way we have felt victimized by the world.

But ultimately the oppression narrative that social justice has carved has its truth - the execution may feel harmful, but humanity has a way of not being perfect. But lets not get petty, and move towards true compassionate embrace. Listen and feel other people's experience - love humanity, love yourself, love others.

monsieurpommefrites · 9 時間前

And we all know how the Balkans turned out.

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