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To Anyone Who Thinks The Wage Gap Is A Myth

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If you've been following me for at least the past 5 weeks, you may have noticed that I'm a newb to the fight for gender equality. I still have a great deal to learn and I look forward to doing so in order to help support the cause in the best way that I can. I am by no means an expert in the topic, but I do believe that with a strong sense of ethics, morality and empathy, one should have most of the traits necessary to understand and want gender equality. And ALL equality, for that matter.
In defining my passion for gender equity, it feels so powerful to expose my own blind spots about gender inequality and to feel so strongly about a cause. When I think and read about these issues and see your comments of support, it fires me up so hard I just want to kick myself in the nuts. But that would help no one.
And sometimes, I read comments that make me want to kick OTHER people in THEIR genitals. Oftentimes, because they're missing big points and focusing on irrelevant details in hopes that it'll support their opposing viewpoints. And frankly, it could be a futile effort to try and address these concerns because they probably mostly come from those people that are stuck in their own ways regardless.
I don't know that this will be helpful for those who would post "Howw yew a femist if yew gota dick idiot!!?" But I feel compelled. Maybe it's for the person that's a bit ambivalent, or that doesn't really understand the issues. Or maybe even as an "I got your back" to those who are already on board. Regardless, I feel compelled.
If you've been following me for at least the past 5 weeks, you may have noticed that I'm a newb to the fight for gender equality. I still have a great deal to learn and I look forward to doing so in order to help support the cause in the best way that I can. I am by no means an expert in the topic, but I do believe that with a strong sense of ethics, morality and empathy, one should have most of the traits necessary to understand and want gender equality. And ALL equality, for that matter. In defining my passion for gender equity, it feels so powerful to expose my own blind spots about gender inequality and to feel so strongly about a cause. When I think and read about these issues and see your comments of support, it fires me up so hard I just want to kick myself in the nuts. But that would help no one. And sometimes, I read comments that make me want to kick OTHER people in THEIR genitals. Oftentimes, because they're missing big points and focusing on irrelevant details in hopes that it'll support their opposing viewpoints. And frankly, it could be a futile effort to try and address these concerns because they probably mostly come from those people that are stuck in their own ways regardless. I don't know that this will be helpful for those who would post "Howw yew a femist if yew gota dick idiot!!?" But I feel compelled. Maybe it's for the person that's a bit ambivalent, or that doesn't really understand the issues. Or maybe even as an "I got your back" to those who are already on board. Regardless, I feel compelled. Instead of the genital jump kicks, I'll try to offer some thoughts instead. Yesterday was National Equal Pay Day and in looking through my post and other people's about it, I've seen some folks arguing that "women making 78 cents to a man's dollar is an outdated fact/false statistic/other irrelevant comment." CONTINUED IN NEXT POST...
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Instead of the genital jump kicks, I'll try to offer some thoughts instead. Tuesday was National Equal Pay Day and in looking through my post and other people's about it, I've seen some folks arguing that "women making 78 cents to a man's dollar is an outdated fact/false statistic/other irrelevant comment."
Let's be honest. We all KNOW that women make less than men (and minority women make even less than white women). In an imaginary world, even if the 78 cent statistic wasn't completely accurate, we still KNOW that there's a disparity. And disputing the *numbers* is akin to me telling you, "my neighbor takes down his pants and shits in my front yard every day." And you telling me, "actually, he doesn't sh*t in your yard on the weekends or National Holidays." The dude is still sh*tting in my mother-f**king yard. And if I went and sh*t on your garden gnome, I bet you'd get it.
And then there's any number of other arguments including that men are doing more work, getting higher levels of education in higher paying fields, don't take off for maternity leave, are generally more aggressive in their careers, or any number of other things that people might say to justify the wage gap. The problem with that is that in an enormous amount of cases, women are less likely to be given an equal shot at their careers as men are.
And it doesn't take statistics to prove this; young girls who show "executive leadership skills" are more likely to be chastised for this and called "bossy" than boys are. This starts very young and certainly doesn't help their chances of wanting to pursue leadership positions or be a strong force in the classroom (and later, in the workforce). The U.S.'s paid maternity leave policies are potentially the least helpful of any other developed nation, which does not help mothers #leanin to their careers. And with such small numbers of states and companies supporting paternity leave, it sure makes it hard for fathers to stay at home with their child and allow the mother to focus on her career if thats the path they choose.
Now I'm not saying that women shouldn't take time off from working to be with their newborns or that they shouldn't even be full time stay-at-home moms if they want to. What I'm saying is that we need to give women an equal *chance*, from the start of their lives, to pursue their careers aggressively and without hesitation.
By limiting girls and women with our own ignorant misconceptions, we are preventing them from having the greatest possible chance to succeed in their careers (and in life generally). This makes it less of a choice for women to pursue their careers and more of a societal, coercing "HINT HINT"ing that they shouldn't.
I don't believe that the wage gap in the U.S. is a result of a bunch of evil managers trying to screw women out of their full earnings, but I believe that it's a product of a society that doesn't give them a full shot and that often discourages them from even attempting a bold career path. We need to create a society where girls and women are getting the same encouragement and support to build their careers as the boys and men are. From the start.
That's just my #78cents.
#heforshe #nationalequalpayday #leanin #leanintogether
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  • Frank Paul · Top Commenter
    We all "know" their is a wage gap, so we can use the 78 cent statistic even though it's a completely meaningless metric that doesn't take in account any of the relevant variables. That is lazy thinking of the first degree.
       
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    • Heinrich Wennington · Los Angeles, California
      This is bad writing. At no point do you provide proof for the existence of a wage gap based on gender.

      In the writer's earnest efforts to craft conclusive proof for his claim, he fails to provide statistical data that proves his assertion that a wage gap exists. I am not denying the existence of the wage gap. I am simply pointing out that all statements in this article are anecdotal at best and do not in any way sway a discerning reader towards the point you're making.

      In the future, if the writer wishes to be taken seriously on this issue, he should do more research and provide an analytical basis for his argument rather than speak angrily and demand the reader accept his point of view. You cannot simply state 'it exists' and demand the reader follow along with your writing nodding compliantly.
         
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      • Matthew William Millett · Top Commenter
        Notice how he never once refuted the actual reasons for why the wage gap exists in some fields.
        • Heather Martin · Top Commenter · Cedar Park High School
          What actual reasons are those again? That women don't negotiate as agressively? He address that. That women have babies? He addressed that too. That women don't go into the high powered fields? He addressed that one as well.

          Which actual reasons?
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        • Byron Shell · Top Commenter · Roan Mountain, Tennessee
          If there are actual reason for the wage gap then how is it sexist of have anything to do with gender ?
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        • Austin Serafini · Top Commenter · The Ohio State University
          I don't know, Heather Martin, I'd suspect the biggest reason is that he dodges the fact that woman aren't paid 22cents less for EQUAL work. Probably the biggest lie that is still being perpetuated when it comes to gender equality. His points on everything else account for 2-7 cents (the actual wage gap), which indeed matter and would be nonexistent in a perfect society, but it will take generations for those ideals to take full root.
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      • Nick Mazula · Top Commenter
        Notice there was no actual facts to refute the claim in this article, just a diatribe. But of course, what more would I expect from the left?
        • Ken Francis · Top Commenter · Ottawa, Ontario
          Feminism is EXPERT at that strategy: stomp their feet, and whine, and beat the drums, but say nothing compelling.
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        • Diskgirl HPuser · Top Commenter · Saint Petersburg, Florida
          Nick Mazula Bottom line, why aren't paid the same as men for doing the same work? If the R's are still pushing the everyone has a chance to succeed lie, then there should be equality for all.
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      • Fred Smith · Top Commenter
        Start with Hillary's senate office and the White House ......we'll wait...
         
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      • Paul Ozmer
        Matt, you pointed out that you still have a great deal to learn so here are some resources you might check out. A study commissioned and endorsed by the Department of Labor concluded in 2009, “The differences in raw wages may be almost entirely the result of the individual choices being made by both male and female workers.” They also concluded that “the raw wage gap should not be used as the basis to justify corrective action.” See it here - http://www.consad.com/content/reports/Gender%20Wage%20Gap%20Final%20Report.pdf
        Were this an actual issue (and not comparing apples and oranges) I would think more people on the left would be storming the gates when they read that the Obama White House and Senator Clinton paid the women in their offices considerably less than men - http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/23/hillary-clinton-as-senator-paid-women-72-cents-on-/. And http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/apr/14/obama-hillary-clinton-pay-equality-records-fall-sh/. You're welcome!
           
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        • Nicholas Bhandari · Top Commenter
          I feel like this article in a way is the biggest problem with the wage gap issue summed up into one horrifically bad example of writing. The fact that he compared the wage gap to someone shitting on your lawn is astoundingly lazy. Most honest research on the issue agrees that there is some unexplained wage gap, but the actual size of that gap is LITERALLY THE ENTIRE ISSUE. If the gap is closer to 5-10 cents on the dollar it can be watched for convergence over time, or helped along with some minor legislation on state/federal levels. If the gap on the other hand is closer to 20-25 cents, it requires a massive movement to help along convergence. Stop trying to play journalist and stick to your day job.
             
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          • Lisa Green Kentala · Top Commenter · Chicago, Illinois
            Do women do the dirty, dangerous - and sometimes higher paying - jobs that men do - tree cutters, linemen, working on fishing boats, etc? The only way to test the wage gap theory is to compare salaries for the same job. Do female and male janitors, teachers, plumbers etc make the same money for doing the exact same job?? That's what I would like addressed. Not a blanket statement that women make less money period - completely ignoring the many high paying jobs that women don't choose to do.
               
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            • Joseph Zito · Top Commenter · Oxford College of London
              Why do actors make so much more than actresses in Hollywood? Why do white actors make more than black actors in Hollywood? Why are there so few Oriental, Indian and Hispanic actors in Hollywood?
              • Benoit Perreault · Top Commenter
                Because they bring in more money, more people go see their movies and generate more revenue.

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            • Ken Francis · Top Commenter · Ottawa, Ontario
              Hey Matt, since you’re committed to gender equality and want to address workplace equality issues, what do you think about the occupational gender death gap?
                 
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