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[–]waffletoast 203 ポイント204 ポイント  (10子コメント)

Damn she laid his whole life out. But it's really fucked up that he was like, "no one likes black women so surely she'll like me even if I treat her like shit!" Who taught him this? Who told him this would be okay?

[–]tsukinon 109 ポイント110 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Society to some extent. You see black men dating white women way more than you see white men dating black women because society has some really screwed up and racist values that can devalue black women. Basically, he thought his whiteness was such a prize to bring to the relationship that he felt that the OP should be grateful enough to ignore his negative traits.

I mean, the guy is disgusting, but his attitude didn't happen in a vacuum. It was reinforced by parts of our society.

[–]trasofsunnyvale 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (8子コメント)

has some really screwed up and racist values that can devalue black women

I think that's just true for black people in general. I don't think there's any group valued less from an institutional standpoint in the US than black men.

Edit: here is some data to support this:

[–]StarfireGirl 35 ポイント36 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Black women honestly. I mean, culturally we have issues with women and black people. So black women get both of those issues. I suspect lesbian and trans black women have it worse again.

[–]sickduck22 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, black women have it AWFUL.

If you have a white single mom working at McDonalds, times are tough, hard luck, she slipped through the cracks, this is why welfare and food stamps exist, etc.

If there's a black single mom working at McDonald's, people will see that VERY differently. Welfare queen, irresponsible, too lazy to get an education, etc. There's no escape.

[–]Logseman 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Misogynoir is the name of the game.

[–]newheart_restart 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Black and Latina women are both worse off.

[–]trasofsunnyvale -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I mean, I see what you're saying logically, but the data does not support that (in the United States, that is):

Again, I understand your logic--black women are minorities twice over. But this shows just how devalued and institutionally marginalized black men are in the United States. Frankly, the metrics for "success" are far more in favor of black women than black men.

[–]seastar11 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (1子コメント)

An interesting point, but we must remember that black women not only face racism, but sexism as well. Additionally, the racism they face is often sexualized, while the sexism they face is often racialized.

I would argue the least valued demographic would not be black men, but trans women of color.

[–]trasofsunnyvale -4 ポイント-3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair logical point, but the data I posted in response to someone else below shows that, in those major, but limited metrics, the dual racism and sexism for black women simply doesn't produce as much harm for that demographic as black men suffer in the US.