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[–]redmustang04 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It just proves the old South Park episode with Ike is true where everyone would say nice when caught when they saw how hot she is and would get little jail time.

[–]Agent_Kid 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (2子コメント)

I think the legal term in this case would be "Golden Taco" and she has one.

[–]12- [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I believe the judge's exact words were "Niiiiiiiiiccccceeeeeee" as he hit the gavel.

[–]rocky8u [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

They mentined her father is a judge. I doubt he presided over this case but I'm sure he influenced it.

[–]iateyourcake 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (12子コメント)

More importantly, if this was a man, he would have got 20 years

[–]FormerDittoHead 55 ポイント56 ポイント  (6子コメント)

...and had a parade of Redditors wishing him to be regularly raped while in prison.

[–]tigersharkwushen_ 25 ポイント26 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Instead there's a parade of Redditor asking why aren't they the student.

[–]WallaceReborn [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If it makes you feel any better if the guy was hot in this hypothetical I'd think the same thing.

[–]Flowah [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

And those comments are from dudes.

So anyone asking why this woman is getting preferential treatment should be blaming dudes. As long as guys continue to see this as not a problem, our justice system will reflect that.

[–]rockidol [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

We should blame men for the justice system giving preferential treatment to women.

Because women play 0 role in the justice system.

[–]LawJusticeOrder [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

  • a 16 year old boy being taken advantage of by a 32 year old man is a criminal incident.
  • a 16 year old girl being taken advantage of by a 32 year old man is a criminal incident.
  • a 16 year old boy being taken advantage of by a 32 year old woman is not criminal.

Is that a hypocrisy? No it is based on physical strength. If a 16 year old girl/boy refuses a man, they can be overpowered. If a 16 year old boy refuses a woman (which is rare in the first place, that's just biological), they can't usually be overpowered.

Would any of you agree with that ? Or do you think that this isn't fair?

[–]hillarysemailserver [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

...and had a parade of Redditors wishing him to be regularly raped while in prison.

To be fair I see that about every other thread, regardless of the content.

[–]CantCatchMeUnawares [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

No doubt. The bigger problem is our laws. There should be different laws for true pedos (those that molest per-pubescent children) and those engaging with teenagers. We can debate all day long whether teenagers are mentally mature enough to have sex, but it is not debatable that they are definitely biologically mature enough for sex. Personally, I believe that we should stop treating teenagers like they were children and start teaching them that they are becoming adults and are responsible for their own actions. We try 15 and 16 year olds as adults in murder cases all the time, yet we still think they aren't dreaming about sex with that hot ass teacher?

And before anyone says it, I am not condoning true rape of any kind. No means no. How is it though that we allow 16 year olds to drive which is the single most dangerous thing they can possibly do, yet we think they somehow can't decide if they want to have sex with someone older than them.

[–]ghotier [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

My school district had three separate cases of male teachers sleeping with female students. The longest sentence was 4 years.

[–]Townes_Van_Zandt 82 ポイント83 ポイント  (9子コメント)

She's a woman. Case closed.

[–]The_seph_i_am 70 ポイント71 ポイント  (3子コメント)

And the daughter of a judge

[–]CBusin 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

From Louisiana of all places. Everyone knows there's no corruption there.

[–]DougDante[S] [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

For example:

Bowers and other forensic specialists say West's "technique" is at minimum malpractice, and that it's likely criminal evidence tampering. Yet those methods were accepted as evidence in criminal courts for more than a decade, and have still yet to be discredited by a court in Mississippi or Louisiana.

Video Shows Controversial Forensic Specialist Michael West Fabricating Bite Marks

[–]Townes_Van_Zandt 27 ポイント28 ポイント  (0子コメント)

One hell of a combination. Now THAT is privilege.

[–]mililani [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

More importantly, a WHITE woman.

[–]Townes_Van_Zandt [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Yup, she has the trifecta.

[–]SixGunGorilla [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Don't forget, that pussy is ivory white just like her tower.

[–]_OneManArmy_ 49 ポイント50 ポイント  (35子コメント)

I've never seen a rapist described as a "Hunky pedophile" so how come this woman gets all glowing language in her headline?

Pathetic. She should be referred to as the child rapist and predator she is.

[–]Karma_Redeemed 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (34子コメント)

The "kid" in question was 17 years old and bragging about hooking up with her. There's a lot of power dynamics that make a teacher/student relationship problematic, but lets not pretend she was diddling an 8 year old here.

[–]_OneManArmy_ 32 ポイント33 ポイント  (15子コメント)

but lets not pretend she was diddling an 8 year old here.

According to our laws she should be treated as such.

If men have to deal with it women should too.

[–]Karma_Redeemed [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

That means we need to change our laws, not sentence people to equally absurd penalties.

[–]FukRPolitics [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Until you change the law, it damned well does mean that we have to sentence people to equally absurd penalties.

And I will say this once: there is not one state in the union where a teacher can fuck a student, and it not be rape. So even if you change the law, this woman should still have the book thrown at them.

[–]WhoFilledFather [スコア非表示]  (8子コメント)

Well get to work on that then. But for now, she needs to be sentenced the same as any man or any child abuser because those are the laws we have now.

[–]Karma_Redeemed [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Technically speaking, the laws that we have now allow broad discretion in sentencing for both the judge and jury (depending on the kind of case). Unfairly harsh sentencing in the past doesn't mean we should continue it now out of a misguided sense of "fairness".

[–]MissedGarbageDay [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Unfairly harsh sentencing in the past doesn't mean we should continue it now

A judge is bound by existing jurisprudence, even if he feels that jurisprudence is wrong.

[–]baconmcnasty [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

The whole point is that law is based on precedent. If the precedent is unjust, the law should be changed. But no matter what everyone should be treated equally. Gender shouldn't make the difference between years in jail and 90 days under house arrest

[–]WhoFilledFather [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Doesn't change what I said. Get to work.

[–]FukRPolitics [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Oh look, now your defending sexism...

What a fucking asshole you are. Go to hell, and burn there for all of eternity.

[–]ex_ample [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Why? I think most teenage boys would love to bang a hot teacher. I know I would. I don't really see why it's so important to arrest hot teachers for banging 17 year old boys.

[–]my-names-not-rick- [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

So hot male teachers banging high school girls is cool too, right? No big deal, right?

[–]ex_ample [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nope. OMG DOUBLE STANDARDS THE WORLD WILL END!!!!!!

Who cares. Why are you so hung up on this, angry about the fact you can't bang some hot tweens?

[–]strattonbrazil [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

According to our laws she should be treated as such.

State laws have gotten more flexible for dealing with these situations like having an 18 year old and having sex with a 17 year old being a small deal compared to a 30 year old having sex with a 17 year old. I consider these distinctions a step forward.

[–]FukRPolitics [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

She's a teacher. That is never acceptable.

[–]Hungry_Lion [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

According to our laws she should be treated as such.

Our laws? Age of Consent is 17 in my state, 16 in most. Their laws would be more accurate.

[–]ex_ample [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Most men would be high-fiving that kid.

[–]Malaysia_flight_370 [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Then why is it so much worse when an adult male hooks up with a 17 year old girl? This woman abused her position irrelevant of how old the student is

[–]Karma_Redeemed [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

The point is that is isn't. Regardless of gender, 17 year having sex with sex that is consensual in every way except for the profession of their partner should simply not be considered on equal moral footing with a pedophile who rapes 10 year olds. There is a world of difference that our legal system needs to acknowledge.

[–]HappyLittleNukes [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah, no. You don't know it was consensual. Were you there? Were you in there courtroom?

There's no way to establish "consent" in this case because this woman is a TEACHER and has very obvious power over the kid that can't be overstated. Even if he bragged about it he's still a victim because she's in control of his fate to a large extent.

Think about what you're proposing. "We need to make it more legal for people to violate consent laws, that'll stop the problem!" That's absurd. We need to enforce the laws equally so that NOBODY thinks this is okay.

[–]Karma_Redeemed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Assuming that there wasn't consent unless consent can be proved is an absurd standard to adhere to. It is entirely possible to understand exactly how much power a teacher has over a student, and it is also possible to at least attempt to understand to what extent (if any) it was utilized to coerce sexual consent. The line is blurry enough to make professional prohibition against teacher student relationships reasonable, but severe criminal penalties for what would otherwise be consenting behavior is asinine at best.

[–]FukRPolitics [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It is never acceptable -- or legal -- for a teacher to have sex with a student.

Get that through your sick, pedophiliac head.

[–]nonconformist3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

He was 16 at the time of incident. Still, when I was sixteen I was hitting on twenty year olds and even hit on a 29 year old. I later had sex with her when I turned 18. The age thing is a twisted subject. I feel that if parents raised their kids right then at sixteen you would be able to figure out if you wanted to have sex or not and wouldn't need legal problems surrounding the issue.

[–]Wayneking [スコア非表示]  (10子コメント)

I bragged about a lot of things when I was a kid that now I wouldn't even mention. He's a kid who is still growing and learning. Who knows how this is going to fuck with him when he's older.

edit: Example: I was always the life of the party in high school and was always drinking and being funny (really just making an ass of myself). I was saying things like, "Blacked out last night, must've been a good night." Now that I'm older, I struggle with alcohol abuse and feel alone a lot because I am no longer the "life of the party." Don't think that just because this guy was bragging about it now that he won't regret it later or that it won't have a serious psychological impact on him.

[–]Karma_Redeemed [スコア非表示]  (7子コメント)

Or if it will at all. The point being, is that it's impossible to know what, if any, ill effects this kid will suffer years down the line. The facts of the case are, that the victim does not identify as such and is of an age that would otherwise be considered able to consent if not for the fact that she was in a position of power. This woman obviously used exceedingly poor judgement in her choice of sexual partners, but it is entirely irrational to say that we should treat her the same way as someone who abducts a child from a playground for sexual purposes. It's just not comparable.

[–]Wayneking [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

So what you're saying is if this were about two male teachers having sex with a 17 year old female student, and that female student said it was consensual, you would think it was fine?

Edit: You're right though, the scenario you gave is not comparable. So don't compare them. Look at them differently and use your head.

[–]Karma_Redeemed [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

I would say that, assuming there is no evidence that the teacher had used their position to coerce the student (Eg: sleep with me or I will fail you), and the ONLY thing about the scenario that was problematic was the profession of the teacher, then I would say firing the teacher and revoking their teaching license would probably be sufficient in this case yes.

[–]Wayneking [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

There doesn't need to be "evidence" that she used it to coerce the student, the fact that someone is in power in any case is the evidence enough that it was used in the coercion. Do you think bosses who come onto their employees often say, "sleep with me or you're fired?" No, but in a lot of cases in which employees were seduced by their bosses they've said they feared what might happen if they said no. It is beyond the point though, the fact of the matter is is that this kid is still developing. Do you think the same now as you did when you were 17? I'm only 24 but I can honestly say hell no. You're right, we don't know for sure if this will have any effect on the kids mental state in a couple years but why would we downplay what happened just because we're not sure what the future holds? If it weren't such an issue as you are saying it's not, the law would have changed by now.

[–]Karma_Redeemed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

That is an absurdly lazy standard to hold to. Saying "if it wasn't a problem than why hasn't the law been changed?" might equally have been applied to interracial marriage in many states of the union not that long ago. And my point is, as far as anyone can tell the student HAS NOT said he felt any pressure to sleep with this women. the story that has been relayed is that he found her attractive, she propositioned him, and they had sex. boom. end of story. until such time as there is evidence to the contrary of that, assuming her professional title should be the be all end all of this discussion is silly. If you moved this forward to a college timeframe, this would be a matter for the schools disciplinary committee, not the police. Similarly, the question of how a 17 year old thinks vs a 24 year old thinks is irrelavent. According to the law, at 17 year old is able to consent with sex.

[–]TwerkingRiceFarmer [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Wow do you hear yourself? Just by the virtue of being a teacher, she is in a position of power. It's important for the society to be able to trust the people who are teaching their children and NOT FUCK THEM LITERALLY.

Unlike you, most parents are not okay with letting their minor children be sexually intimate with someone of position of power. Just because you can't conceive the idea of abuse of power doesn't mean it's socially acceptable for someone trusted with children to have sex with them. And I say children because 17 year old is still a child. That is why we don't let them drink and smoke at that age. Their brains are not still not developed enough to make that decision.

[–]Karma_Redeemed [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

According to the New York State age of consent, 17 IS NOT A CHILD FOR PURPOSES OF CONSENT. I never said it was socially acceptable, merely that treating it on par with how we treat the sexual abuse of say, elementary schoolers, is absurd. There are certainly inherent problems with Teacher/Student relationships. And I would certainly believe that the teacher should be relieved of her position and her teaching license. But sending a teacher to prison for 20 years for otherwise consensual sex? that's irrational in the extreme.

[–]CrateDane [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Where I'm from, the age of consent is 15, but teachers and others in a position of authority cannot have sex with anyone under the age of 18 in their care. The maximum sentence for the latter is half that of the former. I think that's a reasonable system.

[–]ceslek [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Haha - you think this is going to have a serious psychological impact on him.

This only even came out because he was bragging.

And you're comparing getting black out drunk to a teen having sex with a hot women a bit older than him. How are those two things even in the same realm?

[–]Wayneking [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I was comparing bragging about things one day that you might be embarrassed about later in life, read carefully. And I actually already responded about the possibility of the psychological impact it COULD have on him.

[–]mad-n-fla 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (5子コメント)

I am sure the judge was very happy with her oral deposition.

[–]brahmyn 30 ポイント31 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Well her dad is a judge, which means he is a lawyer with a lot of experience working with defendants and the DA. It is plausible there was not a lot of favoritism, she just got excellent representation from someone who knew what to do.

It highlights the problem of people receiving justice in America. The justice system is such that you need a really good lawyer who knows the area and who to talk to in order to get treated fairly.

[–]RoyPurple 20 ポイント21 ポイント  (4子コメント)

So money and power buy fair treatment in our courts, and if you've got neither you're fucked? Then our courts and justice system are corrupt and unjust.

[–]alexman2323 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Well, you just don't stand a chance against someone who knows all the vague laws and loopholes. We all know our Constitution and Amendments, but our laws go into a deeper fine print than that. If you know the local law, state law, federal law, you have more leverage than the guy that doesn't.

[–]DeathDevilize 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

By default, with lawyers having the ability to choose how much they cost, you already have a corrupt system. Also its not money and power, the whole problem is that money IS power but no one seems to realise that giving (theoretically) every single person the ability to obtain nearly unlimited power with money is not a good system.

[–]echo10xs 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

You need to watch Eden of the East.

[–]McWaddle [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You are correct, yes.

[–]DefendedCobra29 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Much of our economic, political, and justice systems are based on personal relationships, not facts, talent, skill, or merit.

[–]JeffTXD [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I can't shake the suspicion that she was molested by her judge father.

[–]9001_Dalmatians 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Treated "fairly." That's a good one.

[–]literallyblack 8 ポイント9 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Hot women get passes in life, what else is new?

[–]SatanTheBodhisattva 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

X-post to /r/pussypass

[–]antiherojc [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

If it was a man in this case everyone would be up in arms, since it is a woman it's treated very differently

[–]Village_ponce [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

LOL if this was Canada, it'd be legal.

Age if consent is 16 here bitchezz

[–]Balrogic3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Whereas the United States has laws that go out of their way to make sure it's still considered rape even if the consenting 'victim' is years older than the age of consent if the 'rapist' has certain types of relationships that aren't 'supposed' to result in unethical sexual contact. Such as being their teacher.

[–]Count_monte_fisto [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

She'd still lose her job though.

[–]Apoplecticmiscreant [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bombshell? Or how about fairly-above-average in looks, young woman?

[–]rnaco 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (3子コメント)

That poor 17 yr old boy. Scarred for life I'm sure

[–]Not_Joshy 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He suffered life-long damage to his wrist from all the high fives he got.

[–]maview 9 ポイント10 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Reverse the genders bro. It's actually ironic because girls become sexually mature before boys.

[–]Karma_Redeemed 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Even with the genders reversed, 17 is the age of consent in New York State. Obviously this doesn't include people in positions of power (like teachers), but given the fact that the teen in question seems to have given no indication of being in the slightest bit unhappy with the situation (they were caught because he was bragging about it in the locker room). The woman certainly deserves to lose her job for this, and perhaps even face some criminal penalties, but this is hardly "25 to life for child rape" case.

[–]Slimerbacca 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Great attorney, money well spent

[–]CisAryanSection 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Both of the men with whom she is alleged to have had sexual contact were sexually mature, 16 and 17, which is legally and biologically old enough to consent to sex, and there are no allegations of force. The only illegal aspect of her alleged behavior is the student-teacher relationship. This is a statutory crime without any violent element.

[–]MajinAsh [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

A quick Google search told me age of consent in Louisiana is 17 not 16. So one of those guys was not old enough to consent. Unless I pulled up some outdated info which is entirely possible.

[–]CisAryanSection [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You may be correct. I originally wrote this comment as a response to someone who called her a pedophile. Sixteen is pubescent, regardless of local law.

[–]A_Single_AID 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I'm happy about this. It sets a precedent we all need to realize: teens are interested in sex and will do it willingly, understanding what happens, and it's unfair to treat sex between an adult and post-pubescent teen as "child rape". Hopefully the next time a male teacher gets caught he gets a similar sentence. (And it doesn't get revised later)

[–]hmmatherne [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I teach in this school district. Not exactly how I wanted to see us on Reddit...

[–]HeL10s [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You know the voice needed here. "Nice..."

[–]CantCatchMeUnawares [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Anyone who somehow thinks that harm was done to this 16 year old boy is out of his/her god damn mind.

[–]saints_fan85 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

*High fives arise over hot ass blond teacher having a 9 HOUR threesome with another hot teacher and the luckiest 16 year old dude on Earth

[–]alitanveer 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

[–]natiebumpo -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

man here: am I the only one who just thinks the kid deserves a goddamn medal? He banged two, two of his hot teachers!

[–]Balrogic3 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Also man here: I think the kid needs a lesson on how to not think with his dick, because that's going to cause him some serious problems later in life. Inability to think with your brain over your dick makes you easy to manipulate and control. In essence, it ensures you remain some woman's bitch whenever she has the slightest whim to command you.

Interestingly, and ironically, such self-control makes it much easier to actually get laid as you stand out from the average male idiot. Tends to get a woman's attention.

[–]albitzian -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Am I the only one that opened the article just to see a picture of her? I'd give her a 7.5, do-able but not a "bombshell".

[–]Tambrusco [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

For a high school teacher, maybe. When I was 17 any teacher with a symmetrical face that looked younger than 30 was a 'bombshell'.

[–]genericname12345 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

And those pointy elbows! 0/10 would not bang.

[–]Gil_V 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

This "news" link is nothing but innuendo.

[–]IVE_GOT_STREET_CRED 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Everything else aside, that kid must now be a legend at that school.

[–]_TomEE_ [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

It's being reported that he died......from high-fiving

[–]Shaquarington_Bithus [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

I mean the thing is that if the kid was bragging about the sex he had the next day i think he wanted it...

[–]nonconformist3 [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

God I wish I had been this kid. Why god, why!? What a moron. Why would you brag about this.

[–]Reelnigga [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Why would you brag about this

because he's the one that not only nailed the hot teacher all the other boys were jacking to, he nailed BOTH of hot the teachers that all the boys were jacking it to... at the same time.... shit I'd give him a high five too.

[–]nonconformist3 [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

Yeah but bragging to another teacher is what gets me.

[–]Reelnigga [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

17 year old men aren't renowned for their discretion.

[–]scotty-doesnt-know [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Bc I do not to be sexist and want to remain equal for all genders. I hope there is an investigation, I hope she is sent to prison for many years and I hope she is raped over and over again. There see I can treat men and women rapist the same.

[–]deadpanSarcasm [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

This isn't even a fucking crime. This is the one time where trying to equalize the sexes makes absolutely no sense. There are no victims in this .

[–]JeffTXD [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

I get that you are a novelty account but this shit isn't even funny anymore.

[–]deadpanSarcasm [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

You should take a look at some of the research in the subject that proves that the only trauma from these cases is from culture calling it a crime . Believe it or not the vast majority of history things like this have been going on with no harm to anyone until people are told it's wrong in our current culture. It's actually all bullshit.

[–]2SP00KY4ME [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Nobody likes your novelty account. Just saying.

[–]Levski123 [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Why cant i get sexually anything by a hot chick. Those lucky fucks.. If she was ugly well... That is clearly indescent

[–]McWaddle [スコア非表示]  (5子コメント)

The only problem here is the student-teacher dynamic. I cannot imagine the 17 year-old male who would not want to fuck her brains out.

[–]DougDante[S] [スコア非表示]  (4子コメント)

Well there are gay 17 year old males.

And celibate ones.

And ones who do not like older or more experienced women.

[–]McWaddle [スコア非表示]  (3子コメント)

Well there are gay 17 year old males.

To quote Ray Gillette: "No one's that gay."

[–]2SP00KY4ME [スコア非表示]  (2子コメント)

Way to deligitimize people's sexuality. I wish it was possible to downvote you more than once.

[–]McWaddle [スコア非表示]  (1子コメント)

There is! Check with Unidan.

[–]2SP00KY4ME [スコア非表示]  (0子コメント)

Thanks! Now please stop acting like being gay is a choice.