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[–]superninjaa 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hope that all goes well and you get the job! Thanks for sharing your experience with us.

Keep us updated!

[–]ehochx[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks!

[–]WeeblieSoftware Engineer 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Fast forward to February: It was around 1 AM and I said fuck it, submitted my resume for a software engineering position, went to bed and got up early for class.

That's the right attitude! You miss all shots you don't take. :)

Thanks for sharing your story and good luck!

[–]ehochx[S] 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Exactly, that's what I thought. I can only know if I'm not good enough if I try. :)

[–]LLJKCiceroSoftware Engineer 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

my recruiter made sure to help me as much as possible and was really friendly, HR was uncomplicated to deal with and the people there were really nice. I've read the "horror stories" about interviewers that feel like they're wasting their time and make sure to demonstrate it, slow recruiters etc. and I don't know if it's because of the different continents but I would apply again in a heartbeat at any time.

When people complain about recruiters being scummy, they're usually talking about external/third-party recruiters. Internal recruiters (ones who are employees of the company you're interviewing with) are much less likely to generate horror stories, because they have a stronger incentive to behave well.

[–]LLJKCiceroSoftware Engineer 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The interviewer brought me to the reception, I checked out and went to the airport where I could enjoy the sun (20 °C!) before departure

If you think this temperature is nice, you should try one of the Google offices in California! :)

[–]dis_my_name 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

How would you say your resume got noticed out of (what I imagine to be) thousands of others? I'm interested to hear how you conveyed your skill level in your application with your self-described mediocre GPA and school.

Also, congrats and best of luck!

[–]ehochx[S] 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I have some work experience, did a lot of non-trivial projects and had a broad exposure to languages, tools and operating systems. This is my resume: http://i.imgur.com/MDuyL9Q.png

Also, congrats and best of luck!

Thanks!

[–]anonymous_1983 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Were all your interviews conducted in English or only the second one was?

[–]ehochx[S] 5 ポイント6 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Every interview was in English, it's the office language.

[–]CydeWeys 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It's the company language. Same policy worldwide.

[–]cheap-whore 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thank you for this and hope you get the job!

This was the moment when I realized the difference between professional education and teaching yourself something in your spare time.

Just curious, did you teach yourself from a university textbook or from online sources?

[–]ehochx[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks!

I used both, online sources for actual code and university slides and scripts for the theory.

[–]LLJKCiceroSoftware Engineer 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (9子コメント)

Nice write-up, glad you had a good experience (I'm at Google at the HQ). It's not surprising to me that they just used English for everything, the Zurich office has people from all over Europe (and undoubtedly some Americans too).

my highest internship salary was 750€

Is that...per week? Per month?

Oh yeah, and in case you didn't know, Google also has dev teams in Munich and Lübeck:

[–]ehochx[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (8子コメント)

Sorry, should have clarified that. Per month!

Oh yeah, and in case you didn't know, Google also has dev teams in Munich and Lübeck:

Yep, it was just the interview, if I get hired, I'll get to choose a location in Europe but I'm leaning towards Zurich because of its size and the projects.

[–]LLJKCiceroSoftware Engineer 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Wow that's low, assuming it's a full-time internship. Yeah, getting a job at Google Zurich would be quite the change, according to Glassdoor salaries there are very high.

If you're interested in other American big tech companies in German-speaking areas, I understand Amazon has a sizable dev office in Berlin.

[–]ehochx[S] 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Zurich isn't cheap, though. But according to my lunch interviewer, Google pays well enough for a comfortable life in Zurich.

If you're interested in other American big tech companies in German-speaking areas, I understand Amazon has a sizable dev office in Berlin.

I would like to get some international experience so I wouldn't mind finding work in another country. :) my plan B is to go for a Master's in IT-Security, applying at Google was initially just for fun and I didn't expect to make it this far, haha

[–]QuickSkopeSophomore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Holy shit that's low! Is that average for places in Europe? I'm in Canada and my rent is more than half that salary (Currency adjusted). I don't even know if I could live on that :S.

[–]ehochx[S] 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Can't speak for other countries but at least in Germany that's common from what I've heard. I don't mind if I was being low balled there, this was straight out of high school and my experience was limited to some self-taught iOS programming.

Rent and general COL are cheap-ish here in Germany, you can live pretty decently with little money as student, the average student spends ~800€ per month for everything. And I'd say companies can pay less here because many bachelor's programs have a mandatory internship in order to graduate.

[–]lojicFreshman 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Isn't Zürich also one of the most expensive cities in one of the most expensive countries in Europe?

[–]QuickSkopeSophomore 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I dunno dude, that's about my monthly expenses if I keep it low key. I'm also on a mandatory co-op program, but I was getting 20$/hr+ for my QA internship freshman year from a local company.

Hopefully you get this job, but if you don't apply out west. COL seems similar, but the income definitely isn't.

[–]immoralatheist 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Where I live 750 euros would cover rent with a couple of roommates and that's all.

[–]VaginalVirus 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Rent is ~70-100%+ depends if you live in Munich or Zurich of that salary (750€) .. if you are lucky to find a room :)

Highest I saw was 1000€. Most pay nothing or ~300€. Per month.

But it's nothing compared to the valley.

[–]NVRLandStudent 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks for sharing your story. It's refreshing to see something non-American.

Personally, I was referred by a friend to Google Sweden. I'm in the top 25% of my class (3rd year) at the best school in my country and didn't even get to the phone interview. Demotivating as fuck.

[–]LLJKCiceroSoftware Engineer 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Google Stockholm isn't very big, may want to apply for other offices if you're really interested in Google.

[–]ehochx[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's what I thought when my recruiter told me about the different offices. And other offices have more diverse projects going on, the Stockholm office sounds like it could become boring, at least on paper.

[–]viraj071 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Thanks for sharing. Best of luck for the result !

[–]ehochx[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks!

[–]jfayd 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Make sure you follow up, just send your recruiter a nice email thanking her/him and your interviewers (call em out by name, you do remember them right?), and that you look forward to hearing back soon

[–]ehochx[S] 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yep, that's what I'm going to do. :)

[–]mordrin 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Thanks for that insight, really detailed and sounds like it was pretty rewarding for you. Best of luck on the result!

[–]True-Creek 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Thanks for sharing your experiences. Can you provide more details on the problems they gave to you?

[–]ehochx[S] 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I'm afraid I'm not allowed to disclose them online (and wouldn't want to, someone sat down and put real effort into them, there's no need to throw their work away by disclosing them and thus making them unusable). But I can say you should always clarify before writing code and talk to your interviewer! I was even encouraged to ask for a hint if I got stuck. And Google will provide you with an interview guide and you should cover the recommended topics.

[–]erratic3 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If the company is serious about hiring you, making you sign NDA is reasonable because they don't want to reveal insider product info and stuff i.e if you happen to discuss in a interview. However, I personally never understood the desire of companies to protect recruiting techniques especially technical questions. It's not a school exam where there's a always a correct answer. If the interviewers are smart, you're judged on your thought process and how you arrive at a solution. Just my personal opinion. Thanks for sharing and good luck!

[–]jjake101Student 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Good luck OP!

As someone who is considering applying for the software engineering internship at Google Zurich from the UK im glad to hear that you had a positive experience :) (I've heard that Googles HR

[–]feyrath 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

thanks for sharing this. I was in Zurich when they opened, and always had the desire to apply. Hope you get it. Try the spazli.

[–]ehochx[S] 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Hope you get it

Thanks!

spazli

Do you mean Spätzli? They're called Spätzle where I live and I couldn't live without them. :)

[–]feyrath 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yes, Spätzli. I was too lazy to find the proper spelling / word. Ich habe zu viel Deutsch vergessen.