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[–]Torlen 96 ポイント97 ポイント  (35子コメント)

I'm all for hating on them but I really feel like this post might be toeing the line. I'll probably get warned for it but close ups of dead people (fat or skinny) is kind of fucked up.

[–]skinnyhippo1 66 ポイント67 ポイント  (1子コメント)

I kind of have to agree with this. When I was working with cadavers, we were under strict rules to ensure that no one takes pictures of them and shares them. It's actually illegal. It's to give the deceased person some privacy when they donate their body for science. This person didn't even donate their body though. Regardless of size, I don't feel like this is completely appropriate. May have been more acceptable if we only saw the fat parts (like images 2, 4, and maybe 3 with face blurred).

[–]GatorDontPlayThatSht 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Might not be illegal im her country...

[–]NekoQTTheoretically Hitler 16 ポイント17 ポイント  (6子コメント)

This is just an autopsy

[–]Torlen 33 ポイント34 ポイント  (5子コメント)

Yep. And those photos aren't allowed to be shared publicly without expressed permission from the family. I doubt OP got that unless he took them from some educational website.

There is going to come a time when this sub is under more intense scrutiny than it already is. Whether or not it's going to to be allowed to continue depends on the content of the sub. Disagreeing with people because of their life choices isn't going to put an end to us. Posting pictures of dead people so we can make fun of them and wishing death on them (posts that usually get downvoted anyways, go us) just might be what does us all in.

[–]NekoQTTheoretically Hitler 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (3子コメント)

Posting pictures of dead people so we can make fun of them and wishing death on them (posts that usually get downvoted anyways, go us) just might be what does us all in.

We can't control people and the comments they make

[–]Torlen 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (2子コメント)

The comments are usually taken care of by people within the sub. At least they aren't upvoted by fph users after being downvoted by the sea lurkers.

I don't really want to argue about it, I just feel like posting close up pictures of a dead persons face is in poor taste, even if they did make terrible life choices.

[–]NekoQTTheoretically Hitler 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't really want to argue about it, I just feel like posting close up pictures of a dead persons face is in poor taste, even if they did make terrible life choices.

I agree, but it's not rulebreaking so i cant remove it

[–]shitlordcaligulaLet us cavort like the Greeks of old! 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I don't get the downvoting in this case. I disagree with u/Torlen, but he's definitely not being a dick or being unreasonable about his stance.

[–]Knotez 6 ポイント7 ポイント  (0子コメント)

But I used to see shit like this on WTF all the time.

[–]floppyseconds[S] 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (25子コメント)

Why is it toeing the line?

Because you someone took a photo of a dead person? Or because they made it available online?

Don't you think eating yourself to death is far more problematic than documenting someones eating disorder/suicide?

[–]CJ090 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (1子コメント)

[–]Torlen 29 ポイント30 ポイント  (17子コメント)

Well it's illegal for one. Also half the pictures serve no scientific purpose at all. They're there just for the shock value. At least have enough respect for the dead to blur the face.

[–]Snarglebargle 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They're there just for the shock value.

Good. We need more fucking shock value when it comes to battling obesity. We need the healthy lung vs. smoker lung kind of image, and having all the fat arrayed around the body is a perfect visual.

[–]GatorDontPlayThatSht 15 ポイント16 ポイント  (7子コメント)

How is it illegal?

[–]Torlen -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

The legality is questionable at best. It depends on the intent behind the release of the photos. Were they released with permission of the family for educational purposes? Legal. Were they released by someone working in the morgue because she was fat? Illegal.

[–]Cyracs 4 ポイント5 ポイント  (4子コメント)

Go preach to r/wtf and r/morbidreality while you're at it.

[–]clockworkgirl21Shit Duchesses Against Sustenance Abuse -2 ポイント-1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Doing something illegal might get the subreddit shut down. Do you want that?

[–]soselfieswowVerified Shitlady -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Not sure what country this was taken in. But photographing an autopsy for anything other than medical or scientific reason is prohibited in the US, im unsure if its under HIPPA, or some other governing body, so i can't provide a source; but speaking from personal experience, as medical professional, they don't even allow photographic devices (except for anything used to record findings from the autopsy) in the room.

[–]floppyseconds[S] 14 ポイント15 ポイント  (6子コメント)

You don't know where those pictures were taken, which means you don't know if taking them was illegal.

I didn't take those pictures, i just rehosted them and submitted the link.

How can you give a dead person respect, if you don't give it to a living person? You are in /r/fatpeoplehate !

[–]Torlen 37 ポイント38 ポイント  (5子コメント)

We all draw the line somewhere. I guess my line is when they breathe their last breath. We're all equal in death.

I hate the decisions they make, I hate the untruths they spout, but at the end of the day I can't wish death on them. I'd prefer they all figure out they've made terrible mistakes and become shit lords.

[–]Snarglebargle 19 ポイント20 ポイント  (2子コメント)

We're all equal in death.

No. Some people die ignominiously and because of their own fault. I pity them, and I feel for their family, but I accord them no respect. They didn't earn it in life, they didn't magically earn it by finally succeeding in killing themselves.

I hate the decisions they make, I hate the untruths they spout, but at the end of the day I can't wish death on them.

At the end of the day, it doesn't matter what you wish on them, only what they bring upon themselves. I'd be more sympathetic if the untruths they spouted didn't infect other vulnerable souls into following the same path of self-destruction.

[–]Torlen 23 ポイント24 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Sorry man. I really have to disagree with your first point. Once your dead, fat or thin, your past transgressions don't matter anymore (unless you're Hitler or something). When you're dealing with cadavers, respect has a different meaning. It doesn't mean you respect decisions they made in life, it means you respect the tradition around death by leaving people to their mourning without causing undue sorrow.

Respect for the dead is something society has in common with our ancestors thousands of years ago. It's the reason we dress them up and put on a macabre show instead of grinding them up and dumping them in the garden as fertilizer (something that has been suggested for future Mars colonists, btw).

You don't need to start magically liking them because they're dead. Just leave them be.

[–]OedipalOscillator 12 ポイント13 ポイント  (0子コメント)

second this. It's not about giving respect to the mound of dead flesh, they're not there anymore to get offended, it's about giving respect (and some hope of peace) to the people that survive them. Their families, children, friends, even the people who took care of them. Dead fatty doesn't care that her filleted shanks are on display on some internet forum. Her hypothetical underage daugther (son, grandkid) on the other hand, just might. I fucking love love love medical gore (I learned about this place through an eye-ripping hospital story that got frontpaged in FPS) but we gotta think of inflicting undeserved pain and suffering on the innocent living. Just anonymize the pictures enough for them to look like meat and not someone's loved ones (tragic, I know).

[–]CantDoxMyAltFamously Hitler 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

The point is that they cause their own death. We aren't equal in death if your death was caused by willful ignorance.

[–]faloofayVerified Shitposter 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

So we should respect Hitler's corpse because he's dead?

We are not equal in death and the fact still stands that she is in this position because of her own personal choices.

[–]faloofayVerified Shitposter 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If we wouldn't have respected them in life, why respect them after death? If this person was living we wouldn't be having this conversation. What's the difference now that they're dead?

[–]NorthernSpectre 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

They could at least blur the fucking face