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[–]1point618http://www.goodreads.com/adrianmryan[M] 11 ポイント12 ポイント  (10子コメント)

PEOPLE:

If you're going to discuss this, do it in a civil manner. I don't want to hear about "skeletons", see name calling of other redditors, authors, or the voters, or get a bunch of snarky bullshit in the modqueue.

Be polite to each other or you get the banhammer, whichever side of the argument you're on. It should be a discussion, not an argument, or you should be doing it somewhere else.

Edit: Also, the Hugos don't matter this year, so check out the other better awards instead.

[–]DokuHimora 22 ポイント23 ポイント  (9子コメント)

The Hugo's always matter. By saying they don't you're ignoring a huge problem.

[–]PAY_CLOSE_ATTENTION 21 ポイント22 ポイント  (1子コメント)

This isn't just a problem of a group of idiots taking over the Hugos, it's a problem of the Hugos being so easily taken over. If they can be co-opted by an interest group, the Hugos shouldn't matter and we need to start ignoring them. At least until they change their process so that an unrelated mob like gamergate can't influence the outcome.

[–]ComradeShitlord 13 ポイント14 ポイント  (0子コメント)

If they can be co-opted by an interest group, the Hugos shouldn't matter and we need to start ignoring them.

This was literally the entire original point of Sad Puppies. Sooo... mission accomplished, I guess?

[–]ycnz 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, I had no idea it was a straight popularity contest with an entry fee. That said, these results aren't any less terrible than recent years.

[–]1point618http://www.goodreads.com/adrianmryan 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (5子コメント)

It's tongue in cheek. And I'm not trying to ignore it, but highlight other awards so that the controversy doesn't take away from their attention.

And anyway, the winners sure don't matter this year, since they won by dirty tactics. I think that's the only healthy attitude to take towards anyone who agrees to be on a voting block. Do it, but your win counts for nothing.

[–]DokuHimora 10 ポイント11 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Fair enough, sorry for jumping at you so quickly, it's just that I've been working in a general book store for almost 8 years now and for most people who aren't in touch with sf/f seeing the Hugo or Nebula stamp on the cover is how they decide to jump in. If this sort of thing continues, tons of people will be irreversibly turned off by our genres.

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    [–]lightninhopkins 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    Sigh, given your username I assume you have come over from KiA or some such sub. Keep your culture war over there. It's not needed or welcome here.

    [–]Bergmaniac -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

    You realize that the only thing Correia and Torgeson did was say to their fans, "Hey, you guys should register to vote for the Hugos, and here's our recommendations on what to vote for."

    Uh, no. They did a lot more than that. The whole idea of the campaign right from the start was mostly the annoy the literati liberals who according to Correia's paranoid fantasy were secretly controlling the award.