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[–]SoForAllYourDarkGods 48 ポイント49 ポイント  (24子コメント)

I don't believe this.

If he was intubated he'd be paralysed or on a high enough dose of propofol to abolish any cough response. And if he wasn't as soon as he started doing this he would be.

Edit: As we're disagreeing here are the points that don't make sense to me.

  1. 9 shots and the killer had to wake the gf.
  2. Why was this person even intubated and taken to ITU? Organ harvest?
  3. No sedation or paralysis on ITU. Highly suspect.
  4. No sedation or paralysis with this type of injury. HIGHLY suspect. Incompetent even.
  5. How are you able to tell the difference between other brain matter and glial cells?

It doesn't add up for me.

[–]vlmodcon[🍰] 17 ポイント18 ポイント  (12子コメント)

This was quite a bit before the age of Propofol. Think 1984. There were no (as in zero) drugs at the time in that class, the class of short-acting hypnotics. Generally available paralytics at the time would have been pavulon, actual Curare, maybe succinylcholine and not much more. I have no idea how succs would work with such massive damage. Believe if you wish. Don't believe if you wish. I could not care less. It's true, and I was there. You weren't.

[–]GetSkied15 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

It was only a .25 and they're not particularly loud. If she was in a deep sleep she it wouldn't have woken her.

[–]neuromorph 3 ポイント4 ポイント  (1子コメント)

Also 9 shots didn't wake the GF.....

[–]handatwork 2 ポイント3 ポイント  (0子コメント)

He said they were drunk... drunk enough to pass out even knowing that the wife would eventually be home.

[–]guesswhostalkin -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (1子コメント)

You'd be surprised at how often people make up fucked up shit on the Internet. Some of them have a sexual fetish, some of them are just into creative writing, but either way a lot of stories like the one above are faked.

[–]SoForAllYourDarkGods -5 ポイント-4 ポイント  (0子コメント)

Yeah, that's more or less what I said to the OP. Nothing personal, it just doesn't add up. To me.

Note people - your opinion may vary.

[–]PancakeMSTR 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

9 shots and the killer had to wake the gf.

This was what stuck out to me the most as implausible (although I'm not doctor, so nothing else was intrinsically procedurally strange to me).

I definitely could and could not believe OP's story. I'm not gonna choose a side, because the imagery (of OP's tale, tall or otherwise), was very good. It's interesting to think about, and that's what matters to me, more so than the truth, in this circumstance.

[–]UnfortunatelyLawless -3 ポイント-2 ポイント  (3子コメント)

I was reading that the entire time and was wondering where the sedation was....I would never let a patient buck the vent like that, especially with "that kind of brain injury." Total bullshit.

[–]vlmodcon[🍰] 7 ポイント8 ポイント  (2子コメント)

Not total BS, total truth. This happened. The way you would have dealt with the patient has nothing to do with how the patient was actually cared for. I can't justify (or condemn) any medical decisions that were made, but I can certainly report the observed events. That's all I'm doing. If it doesn't fit into your world...great. But it happened.

[–]jennyfromthesault 1 ポイント2 ポイント  (0子コメント)

I believe you. Honestly even in today's world of medicine, things can happen that are astonishing and challenge our beliefs. So far in my short career as a nurse I have seen things I never thought I would. Does that make them not true? No, just means that we live in a world where a lot is possible. Every patient situation is different and going in you never know what to expect. You can't just look at a medication or your knowledge of a time period or western medicine and say this never happened. There have been weirder stories in medicine.

[–]UnfortunatelyLawless -1 ポイント0 ポイント  (0子コメント)

What was the plan of care even then? If he's fighting the tube that much he's not even being properly ventilated anyway-decreasing the chances for possible organ donation. Obviously his survival chances were less than zero, so why not make him comfortable instead of letting him go wild on the vent? I'm just saying, if I was the nurse, I would have called the other intensivist/hospitalist/team/anyone to get some sedation on board.

We make people comfortable for a lot less acute situations than this, hence my reservations....

[–]UnfortunatelyLawless 0 ポイント1 ポイント  (0子コメント)

(Commenting on your edits)

Uhhhhhhm, incompetent? I'd say negligent.